[Bug 682788] Re: Improve Unity Global Menu
** Changed in: unity Status: Confirmed = Fix Committed ** Changed in: unity Assignee: (unassigned) = Marco Trevisan (Treviño) (3v1n0) ** Changed in: unity Milestone: None = 7.2.0 ** Changed in: compiz Status: Triaged = Invalid ** Branch linked: lp:~3v1n0/unity/lim-hidpi -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/682788 Title: Improve Unity Global Menu To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/682788/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 682788] Re: Improve Unity Global Menu
** No longer affects: metacity (Ubuntu) ** No longer affects: compiz (Ubuntu) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/682788 Title: Improve Unity Global Menu To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/682788/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 682788] Re: Improve Unity Global Menu
** Changed in: unity-control-center (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided = High ** Changed in: unity-control-center (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed = Triaged -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/682788 Title: Improve Unity Global Menu To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/682788/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 682788] Re: Improve Unity Global Menu
Status changed to 'Confirmed' because the bug affects multiple users. ** Changed in: unity-control-center (Ubuntu) Status: New = Confirmed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/682788 Title: Improve Unity Global Menu To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/682788/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 682788] Re: Improve Unity Global Menu
@Ryan Koesters: I've build today Unity and unity-control-center with your patches on Ubuntu 14.04 both worked without problems. I had to manually specify the files to patch unity-control-center because I probably used wrong -p option: patch -p1 To install the packages I had to remove gnome-control-center-unity because it was in conflict with this new unity-control-center. This is screenshot of u-c-c with always show the global menu bar option. http://ubuntuone.com/1JH80LwIm4Su2OM6gkYK5i I had troubles with building the current Unity for 14.04 but not because of your patches so I used the daily build from Unity daily stack preparation PPA. https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-unity/+archive/daily-build Your patch applied successfully but there were some offsets. Packages for Unity build without problems. When I installed new unity and libunity-core packages I had the menubar-always-visible option in dconf Editor. http://ubuntuone.com/52zSHb6qp1Sd4zMj4XCefh -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/682788 Title: Improve Unity Global Menu To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/682788/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 682788] Re: Improve Unity Global Menu
Some here seem to have a conceptual misunderstanding about human interface design. Technology and design improvements should increasingly conform the computer to the human, not the other way around. Confoundingly, not all humans work the same way. Regardless of which side of the debate you take, the hubris in the lack of configuration (formerly a highlight of Open Source) is inescapable. And, frankly, unreasonable. So here we are, two years of argument later and no significant progress. All to save what? 24 pixels of vertical space? Ludicrous. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/682788 Title: Improve Unity Global Menu To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/682788/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 682788] Re: Improve Unity Global Menu
2013/12/8 David Wolfe davidw+launch...@wolfeden.org All to save what? 24 pixels of vertical space? Ludicrous. Actually the global menu per se is not the issue here. Almost every commenter likes it; just not the way it behaves _exclusively_ (not by default, since there are barely any options). So I would rephrase to say All to save what? A few hours of a developer introducing the already designed options and just a maybe bigger but better code to maintain? THAT's the benevolent dictator's responsibility and only his (just read his despising words along the whole thread). His disdain for proper reasoning and logic is simply appalling and frankly depressing. Here's hope that some of the brilliant minds at Canonical (definitely not his), will take on the responsibility of making Unity 8 a better Unity by including AT LEAST the chance of add-ons that allow third parties to tweak it. Creating non-extensible software in 2014 sounds unbelievably prehistoric, so -again- I expect that we have AT THE VERY LEAST, an extensible-by-design Unity. At that point, we can stop worrying about Shuttleworth's reasoning skills and simply build persistent add-ons instead of patches that will be overwritten every other week. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/682788 Title: Improve Unity Global Menu To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/682788/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 682788] Re: Improve Unity Global Menu
14.04 users can now, if desired, disable global menus on a per app basis in dconf. Should work for most common apps excluding nautilus, firefox/thunderbird any qt4 apps like vlc, smplayer, ect. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/682788 Title: Improve Unity Global Menu To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/682788/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 682788] Re: Improve Unity Global Menu
The patch provided by Ryan Koesters works when applied to Unity in 13.10. I've build Unity and then I had a new GSettings option. When I checked that menubar-always-visible the global menu became visible all the time for all programs. This should be available in 14.04 LTS for the people that don't like the default hiding of global menu. Of course it would be even better if this could be toggled from Appearance settings instead of dconf-editor. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/682788 Title: Improve Unity Global Menu To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/682788/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 682788] Re: Improve Unity Global Menu
@Mateusz Stachowski: I am currently working on a patch to do that for unity-control-center. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/682788 Title: Improve Unity Global Menu To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/682788/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 682788] Re: Improve Unity Global Menu
Will this patch resist updates? 2013/12/4 Ryan Koesters rmkoest...@gmail.com @Mateusz Stachowski: I am currently working on a patch to do that for unity-control-center. -- You received this bug notification because you are subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/682788 Title: Improve Unity Global Menu Status in Ayatana Design: Fix Committed Status in Compiz: Triaged Status in Unity: Confirmed Status in “compiz” package in Ubuntu: Triaged Status in “metacity” package in Ubuntu: Triaged Status in “unity” package in Ubuntu: Triaged Status in Baltix GNU/Linux: Confirmed Bug description: ===+++ _ ! ALL USERS ! _ +++=== ===+++ READ THIS BEFORE MAKING A COMMENT OR MODIFICATION +++=== IMPORTANT 1: Please don't post any me too message; use the Does this bug affect you? feature you can find a bit above this bug description on Launchpad. IMPORTANT 2: Do not post anything if you haven't read all comments to verify that your point hasn't been made. If you feel tempted to stop reading because there are too many messages, that is a strong indicator that you shouldn't add even more comments. Developers have a tough time to find anything if you post redundant stuff. So please abstain from doing that. = Global menu in general (not only in Unity) is very unergonomic on large screens (see the attached screenshot) because if you have a small window somewhere near the low right corner you have to move the cursor all the way up to to panel to reach the menu. I understand why the global menu was used for the netbook edition (it saves space and most windows are maximized), but since Unity is intended to be for the desktop edition there should be an option to switch to the traditional position of the app menu. It would be welcomed by many desktop users. Please try to find a solution for it that works. A commonly suggested solution is: [ ] Global Menu on [ ] Global Menu off [ ] Global Menu only for maximized windows The default is usually suggested as either the first (on) or last (on only for maximized windows). - Desired change: Implement the 'Enhanced Menu' project for 12.10. This project will address the issue described in this bug and also issues described in the duplicates of this bus. Note this is the 'official' bug that tracks the implementation of this project. The following options will be added to 'System Settings/Appearance': --- Menus Location:Global/Local Visibility: Hidden/Always displayed --- To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/682788/+subscriptions -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/682788 Title: Improve Unity Global Menu To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/682788/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 682788] Re: Improve Unity Global Menu
@Aleve Sicofante: Can you explain what you mean by resist updates? I attached the patch for the newly forked unity-control-center that adds the option to enable or disable com.canonical.Unity.Panel.menubar- always-visible. ** Patch added: Add option in appearance panel to enable or disable always showing global menu bar https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/682788/+attachment/3923354/+files/always-show-menubar.patch -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/682788 Title: Improve Unity Global Menu To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/682788/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 682788] Re: Improve Unity Global Menu
Thanks Ryan, if you could also implement a toggle to use global menu with maximized applications only, that would be great! BTW: does the patch in its current form ever display window's title for maximalized windows? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/682788 Title: Improve Unity Global Menu To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/682788/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 682788] Re: Improve Unity Global Menu
2013/12/4 Ryan Koesters rmkoest...@gmail.com @Aleve Sicofante: Can you explain what you mean by resist updates? I mean, will we have to apply the patch after each update? Sometimes updates overwrite patched versions of Unity. I'm asking if this patch suffers from the same or is it independent from ordinary system updates? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/682788 Title: Improve Unity Global Menu To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/682788/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 682788] Re: Improve Unity Global Menu
** Also affects: unity-control-center (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/682788 Title: Improve Unity Global Menu To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/682788/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 682788] Re: Improve Unity Global Menu
@Aleve Sicofante: As far as I can tell, you will have to apply the patch every time. @TomasHnyk: The patch doesn't show the title for maximized windows. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/682788 Title: Improve Unity Global Menu To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/682788/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 682788] Re: Improve Unity Global Menu
The attachment This patch adds a GSettings option to enable having the global menubar always visible (com.canonical.Unity.Panel.menubar-always- visible). seems to be a patch. If it isn't, please remove the patch flag from the attachment, remove the patch tag, and if you are a member of the ~ubuntu-reviewers, unsubscribe the team. [This is an automated message performed by a Launchpad user owned by ~brian-murray, for any issues please contact him.] ** Tags added: patch -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/682788 Title: Improve Unity Global Menu To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/682788/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 682788] Re: Improve Unity Global Menu
I don't know the current status of this bug, but I made a patch to fix part of the issue. The patch adds a GSettings option (com.canonical.Unity.Panel.menubar- always-visible) that allows making the global menubar always visible. This patch was done with the unity in 13.10 repos right now, but it will probably work with trunk as well. ** Patch added: This patch adds a GSettings option to enable having the global menubar always visible (com.canonical.Unity.Panel.menubar-always-visible). https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/682788/+attachment/3914787/+files/always-show-menubar.patch -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/682788 Title: Improve Unity Global Menu To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/682788/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 682788] Re: Improve Unity Global Menu
Unity 8 will not land before 14.10, at the earliest. Since they are not going to add new features to Unity in 14.04, do not expect to see this for years around. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/682788 Title: Improve Unity Global Menu To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/682788/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 682788] Re: Improve Unity Global Menu
Some news on this feature? It is my last major feature I want to see in Unity. Any plan to have it in 14.04 with Unity 8, it should be great ? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/682788 Title: Improve Unity Global Menu To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/682788/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 682788] Re: Improve Unity Global Menu
** Changed in: compiz Milestone: 0.9.10.2 = 0.9.11.0 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/682788 Title: Improve Unity Global Menu To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/682788/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 682788] Re: Improve Unity Global Menu
I'm confused. This bug can only be solved in future versions of Unity. Since current is Unity 7 and the design hasn't been changed, our first hopes go to Unity 8, where Compiz won't be used at all. So unless Unity 7 introduces the desired behavior in 13.10, which seems unlikely (since nobody has even mentioned it so far) what exactly does all this Compiz fix at a later release means at all??? 2013/7/22 papukaija 682...@bugs.launchpad.net It means that the work/fix has been postponed to a later release of Compiz. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/682788 Title: Improve Unity Global Menu To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/682788/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 682788] Re: Improve Unity Global Menu
** Changed in: compiz Milestone: 0.9.10.0 = 0.9.10.2 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/682788 Title: Improve Unity Global Menu To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/682788/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 682788] Re: Improve Unity Global Menu
Sorry for my ignorance. What exact changes have happened to Compiz regarding this bug that you're informing us about here? 2013/7/22 Sam Spilsbury smspil...@gmail.com ** Changed in: compiz Milestone: 0.9.10.0 = 0.9.10.2 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/682788 Title: Improve Unity Global Menu To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/682788/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 682788] Re: Improve Unity Global Menu
It means that the work/fix has been postponed to a later release of Compiz. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/682788 Title: Improve Unity Global Menu To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/682788/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 682788] Re: Improve Unity Global Menu
** Changed in: compiz Milestone: None = 0.9.10.0 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/682788 Title: Improve Unity Global Menu To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/682788/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 682788] Re: Improve Unity Global Menu
This bug isn't fixed in 13.04 yet. Maybe the developers John Lea and Marco Trevisan (Treviño) could chime in and let everybody know if we can expect it to be fixed in 13.10? Thanks. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/682788 Title: Improve Unity Global Menu To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/682788/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 682788] Re: Improve Unity Global Menu
Leonardo Donelli HUD is not amazing. It's extremely inconvenient and nigh-useless. I can't imagine anyone actually making use of that poorly designed garbage. I really have nothing nice to say about this feauture except that I appreciate having a place to disable it in ccsm. As for the global menu, I'm pretty happy with it. I'd be more happy if it could pick up menus from SUID programs, so I could have a consistent interface. I would like to see it more clearly distinguish the begining of the menu from the close/restore/minimize buttons, and I've always had a dream that someday developers will learn how to export menus from applications running through WINE. I also dream of development toward a more portable / intercompatible global menu to use with other desktops, or more flexibilty with menu designs, which requires cooperation from the various desktop development teams. Some of that dream: Since it exports menus over D-BUS, it can send them anywhere. They don't have to be a menu across the top. The elementary developers have their own ideas for menu placement: a single menu button in one corner of the program. Some users might like that a lot, others want menus in programs like they used to be, and others like me enjoy a global menu. Why not develop a configurable menu-exporter? Something that picked up the menu over DBUS and then sent it to a user-configured location. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/682788 Title: Improve Unity Global Menu To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/682788/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 682788] Re: Improve Unity Global Menu
Selection bias. This is a bug report in which the global menu functionality on unmaximized windows is reported as a bug. Of course the vast majority of people on this page are against this feature. So I'll speak in favor of it. Personally i love global menu (both on maximized and unmaximized windows) and it's *the* feature that keeps Ubuntu my OS of choice. Since when I got used to it no global menu - not an options as personal OS (and my screen is 1600x900, for those saying that if the screen is 1280x1024, than global menu is bad) For those talking about auto-hiding and 'easy discovery of menu options': there's HUD for that now. It's amazing. The concept behind it has been proved successful in the past, on desktops: dash/launchers vs desktop icons, web search engines vs web directories. Example: I wonder if GIMP has a function for lens flare. With HUD i press alt and type 'flare'. With the menu, i explore lists and sublists of menus categories until I find it (assuming I don't miss it)- The only case when the normal menus are better is when I want to just 'explore' the options, without looking for anything in particular (Let's see if there is something cool), How many times does that happens? 1 per application per lifetime? Well, for that time you can do the enormous effort of moving the mouse a little higher. A lot of people here lamenting Unity sounds a lot like those windows users that try some distro and say Where is the start button? What, there isn't one?! This OS is stupid!. That being said, unless it's difficult to implement (I doubt it) I don't see why not give the users the option to disable it. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/682788 Title: Improve Unity Global Menu To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/682788/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 682788] Re: Improve Unity Global Menu
@Leonardo Donelli: Have you actually read this bug report at all? People here is not against the global menu per se. Gosh, even the title says it very clear!!! All we want is IMPROVEMENT, which in this case means some pretty well argued options (compared to the total lack of rationale for the current status...). The HUD doesn't solve the problems illustrated here. It's just a different way of accessing the menus (keyboard vs mouse), not a reason to hide them. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/682788 Title: Improve Unity Global Menu To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/682788/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 682788] Re: Improve Unity Global Menu
LIM has been announced for Saucy. I understand it's not a proper announcement, but just an idea in the ongoing UDS. Whoever is attending the UDS, please remind the team of this hugely followed bug. If they're planning an overhaul of the menu system, they should pay attention to everything that has been said here. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/682788 Title: Improve Unity Global Menu To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/682788/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 682788] Re: Improve Unity Global Menu
I think this issue is a symptom of a much deeper problem; Canonical need a good designer that understand users behavior and can create a consistent UI. Many ideas are good in Unity, but the overall execution and UI-design is flawed and lacks consistency. Mark is clearly not the man to make this kind of decisions - he need someone that understands UI and design (read Jonathan Ive, mk II). It's no coincidence that Apple have been successful on consumer products - understanding user behavior, careful UI design and aesthetic perfectionism. Don't get me wrong, i love the Ubuntu, i just wish it will become what it could be. Mark; please realize your limitation surround yourself with right people for the job. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/682788 Title: Improve Unity Global Menu To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/682788/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 682788] Re: Improve Unity Global Menu
It's used for the window's buttons and title when in maximized mode, and the application name when non-maximized. The solution is to show the title whenever the mouse reaches either the top left corner (application title area when not maximized, buttons area when maximized) or the area between the menu and the indicators. In other words: show the title of the window whenever the mouse is on the top bar but outside the menu area And we don't see the problem with this whole thing by how many words it took to type that? The whole behavior of the panel is convoluted and, it does not need to be! Question one Why do I need to see the application name on a full screened application if I set it to full screen I am pretty sure I will remember what that application was and, why is this more important than necessary application controls? There are a Whole Family of applications and most of them are the Type //people use to get work Done// that heavily use the Applications menu. Re think the Panel behavior, Move things around, Let users set a black list of applications to not use the global menu just do something to keep NECESSARY CONTROLS from vanishing or Shifting around on the screen. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/682788 Title: Improve Unity Global Menu To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/682788/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 682788] Re: Improve Unity Global Menu
2013/1/28 Chad Germann cgerm...@gmail.com in other words: show the title of the window whenever the mouse is on the top bar but outside the menu area And we don't see the problem with this whole thing by how many words it took to type that? Actually, my other words are pretty few. You bet I would have employed a lot less words if I described this in Spanish, which is the language I master. Question one Why do I need to see the application name on a full screened application if I set it to full screen I am pretty sure I will remember what that application was I agree, but some people might argue the name of the document is useful to know, even on a maximized window. Obviously, on a non-maximized window, the vanishing menu is pure nonsense, let alone the softly truncated application name when the menu appears. This behaviour has never been rationally explained (probably because it can't be) and responds only to some personal aesthetic preferences (guess who's...). There are a Whole Family of applications and most of them are the Type //people use to get work Done// that heavily use the Applications menu. That's the whole reason this bug exists and is shared by so many people here... I think the proposed solutions would alleviate the main problem which you have defined very well. It's still hard to understand why Canonical/Shuttleworth believes this is a minor or non-issue and keeps postponing the implementation of a solution (or leaving it up to the petulants) that seems to be clearly resolved from a design point of view. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/682788 Title: Improve Unity Global Menu To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/682788/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 682788] Re: Improve Unity Global Menu
2013/1/24 Chad Germann cgerm...@gmail.com And just remove the vanishing functionality completely. its not like that panel area is being used for anything else. It's used for the window's buttons and title when in maximized mode, and the application name when non-maximized. The solution is to show the title whenever the mouse reaches either the top left corner (application title area when not maximized, buttons area when maximized) or the area between the menu and the indicators. In other words: show the title of the window whenever the mouse is on the top bar but outside the menu area. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/682788 Title: Improve Unity Global Menu To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/682788/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 682788] Re: Improve Unity Global Menu
[ x ] Global Menu on [ ] Global Menu off [ ] Titlebar only for maximized windows Is bit a proper fix its just trading an annoying behavior of the global menu for an annoyingly inconsistent one. interface fetures should not jump around like a Jack Rustle terrier. the fix should be [X] Global menu on [X] Global Menu off And just remove the vanishing functionality completely. its not like that panel area is being used for anything else. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/682788 Title: Improve Unity Global Menu To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/682788/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 682788] Re: Improve Unity Global Menu
I first came to this bug report because I'm so frustrated with the way the Global Menu has been implemented. First of all, WHY are we auto-hiding menu options? The fact that a menu is hidden without hovering over it with the cursor is insane! All that does is cause confusion, and hides options that others might be looking for or wishing they had that they didn't know existed (because they're hidden)! Menu options should be visible at all times, where they can be discovered and easily/quickly clicked on. Right now, with everything being auto-hidden, I have to remember the menu is up at the top left of the screen (when my window is small rather than maxed), and then I have to hover the panel to see my options (very annoying/time consuming), and then I have to find the right option (if it was always visible I would have already found it), and then continue selecting what I originally wanted to accomplish. Comment #24 is 100% correct. By having the menu on the window itself, when not maximized, people have to move their eyes less, and move their arms and cursor less. It saves time and it and makes sense because the menus are connected to the app you are currently working on. By placing them in the global menu for a non-maxed window, you are confusing people as to what those menu options actually belong to, especially when you have to change focus from app to menu or to other app. Even the desktop has it's own menu.. [x] Global Menu only for maximized windows makes the most sense. Most people on small screens run their apps maximized to get the most space possible, so naturally, placing the menu in the global menu when windows are maximized keeps the menu in the same areas as when the window is non-maxed (attached to the top left of the app), and it saves space by removing an extra bar. When people have very large screens they tend to use smaller windows and would appreciate having menus attached to each app, so it's easier to know which menu belongs to what app, as well as keeping the user from having to move their eyes, arms, and cursor very far to get to what menu they want (it's faster and easier.) They won't have to worry about what app has focus to know which menu they're working with.. So the solution is simple! When windows are maxed use the global menu, and NEVER auto-hide them; at it saves space, but is also technically the same thing as having the menu on the app window itself because it appears in the correct area of the window itself (and it's not confusing because it will never be auto-hidden.) When windows are not maxed, keep the menu attached to the window itself, so people have less to think about, and less hand/eye movement (It's also faster and easier.) On a side note.. Showing the title before the menu is kind of annoying as well.. If anything, the title should be placed after the menu so the menu and close/max/min buttons are always in the same place. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/682788 Title: Improve Unity Global Menu To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/682788/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 682788] Re: Improve Unity Global Menu
2013/1/23 Brad Jensen bradwjen...@gmail.com WHY are we auto-hiding menu options? Because the owner of the playground believes it's more aesthetically pleasing and that the menus are disturbing, ugly and awkward. He also believes this pack of peculiar opinions form a rationale. Basic logic is not his forte. He's much better at insulting people (remember: the 600+ people subscribing this bug and opposing his rationale are a bunch of petulants). There's nothing that can be done. It's his money, it's his product, if you don't like it, look elsewhere or hope for the day he doesn't make or approve design decisions any more. You can also trust the few brave souls, capable of coding, capable of pushing the many rational objections there are to this ridiculous decision and expect them to fix it. I do, and I hope we'll see this fixed someday, making Ubuntu a much better OS, UI-wise, inspite of the childish attitude of the man in charge. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/682788 Title: Improve Unity Global Menu To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/682788/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 682788] Re: Improve Unity Global Menu
** Changed in: unity Status: In Progress = Confirmed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/682788 Title: Improve Unity Global Menu To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/682788/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 682788] Re: Improve Unity Global Menu
Mark, YOU broke this, so it is YOUR responsibility to fix it. Not mine. Not the guy commenting above me. Not any other contributor to Ubuntu. You alone drove through these changes in the face of massive resistance, and by doing that you have taken on all responsibility for ensuring they work properly. If you don't want to make it your top priority that's fine. As long as we all know where we stand: that fulfilling your responsibilities toward the community is not a top priority for you. We can all make mistakes; when we do, we take responsibility for them. [except when it isn't a top priority.] -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/682788 Title: Improve Unity Global Menu To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/682788/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 682788] Re: Improve Unity Global Menu
put the Global Menu also in unmaximized windows -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/682788 Title: Improve Unity Global Menu To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/682788/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 682788] Re: Improve Unity Global Menu
I think we can establish a vote about that. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/682788 Title: Improve Unity Global Menu To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/682788/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 682788] Re: Improve Unity Global Menu
Guys: stop discussing the implementation. The design team and the Ayatana team have all the briefing and are working on this. There's only one question remaining: WHEN? This bug was to be solved for 12.04, then 12.10... Mark Shuttleworth promised well before 12.04 that the default menu behaviour would be tweakable in the direction this bug shows. I think it's not unfair to ask for a solid commitment from the devs about the chance of this bug being solved for 13.04. So please Mr. John Lea et al: let us know how's this going and what our reasonable expectactions can be. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/682788 Title: Improve Unity Global Menu To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/682788/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 682788] Re: Improve Unity Global Menu
It will get done when it's the top priority for someone. You, me, any other contributor, doesn't matter. Putting your hands on your hips and demanding that someone else do work for you is just petulant. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/682788 Title: Improve Unity Global Menu To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/682788/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 682788] Re: Improve Unity Global Menu
There you go guys: we're just a bunch of petulants. That's PR at it's best Mr. Shuttlerworth. Good job, as usual. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/682788 Title: Improve Unity Global Menu To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/682788/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 682788] Re: Improve Unity Global Menu
[ ] Global Menu on [ ] Global Menu off [x] Global Menu only for maximized windows -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/682788 Title: Improve Unity Global Menu To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/682788/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 682788] Re: Improve Unity Global Menu
manny, you wanted title bar click to toggle the menu bar. If people didn't want it, you said you would accept title bar hover to toggle the menu bar. I'm going to go with you! :-) I want title bar hover to toggle the menu bar. Soon, I want: - when the app is launched, the menu bar must appear for three seconds, then disappear for discoverability - instead of toggle, unless it's needed ( install mozilla labs' lesschrome hd, hover tab bar, hover page content * ) - instead of hover, slightly delayed hover ( turn off global menu bar integration, restart fx, turn off menu bar, click app button, slightly delayed hover a menu item ** ) Later, if all this works, I want: - not only the menu bar, all bars under the title bar - not only all bars under the title bar, window controls * https://addons.mozilla.org/pt-BR/firefox/addon/prospector-lessChrome-HD/ ** https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=589146 reply ** Bug watch added: Mozilla Bugzilla #589146 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=589146 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/682788 Title: Improve Unity Global Menu To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/682788/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 682788] Re: Improve Unity Global Menu
@papukaija; thanks for resetting the statuses, I have updated the ayatana-design to the correct status and assignment. @All; status and assignment in ayatana-design should only be changed by the Ubuntu design team or the Canonical QA team, please do not change the status here if you are not part of either of these teams. ** Changed in: ayatana-design Assignee: (unassigned) = John Lea (johnlea) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/682788 Title: Improve Unity Global Menu To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/682788/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 682788] Re: Improve Unity Global Menu
** Changed in: ayatana-design Status: Fix Released = Fix Committed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/682788 Title: Improve Unity Global Menu To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/682788/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 682788] Re: Improve Unity Global Menu
@all: This bug is NOT fixed. If this bug was really fixed, it would have been announced by Ubuntu news websites and here by a developer. @Kamran: since this bug is NOT fixed, please do not change the statuses or assignees of this bug. Thanks in advance. @bug-control: Could you please revert these changes:? Thanks in advance. Changed in unity: status: Triaged → In Progress Changed in ayatana-design: status: Fix Committed → Fix Released Changed in: ayatana-design Assignee: John Lea (johnlea) → (unassigned) ** Bug watch removed: Mozilla Bugzilla #589146 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=589146 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/682788 Title: Improve Unity Global Menu To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/682788/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 682788] Re: Improve Unity Global Menu
@papukaija: the Ubuntu bugcontrol team cannot revert such changes because they were made to projects, not to Ubuntu packages. However I have already contacted who can revert the changes; let's wait till Monday, if I do not get a response, I'll use the mailing list. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/682788 Title: Improve Unity Global Menu To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/682788/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 682788] Re: Improve Unity Global Menu
Error, the fix has not been released. A fix is still being committed. The fix should be released by the time 12.04.2. I am running Ubuntu 12.10. Maybe wait until 12.04.2 or 13.04 to be released. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/682788 Title: Improve Unity Global Menu To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/682788/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 682788] Re: Improve Unity Global Menu
*By the time 12.04.2 is released. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/682788 Title: Improve Unity Global Menu To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/682788/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 682788] Re: Improve Unity Global Menu
gonna recreate this bug and reset it to triaged. ** Changed in: ayatana-design Assignee: John Lea (johnlea) = (unassigned) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/682788 Title: Improve Unity Global Menu To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/682788/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 682788] Re: Improve Unity Global Menu
I have Xubuntu 12.04. I went update-manager -d. I'm typing during Installing the updates. THERE'S NO GLOBAL MENU! -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/682788 Title: Improve Unity Global Menu To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/682788/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 682788] Re: Improve Unity Global Menu
False alarm. I was on Gnome Shell. :-( -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/682788 Title: Improve Unity Global Menu To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/682788/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 682788] Re: Improve Unity Global Menu
Fixed the issue, You can check for updates using the Software Updater to update your software. ** Description changed: ===+++ _ ! ALL USERS ! _ +++=== ===+++ READ THIS BEFORE MAKING A COMMENT OR MODIFICATION +++=== IMPORTANT 1: Please don't post any me too message; use the Does this bug affect you? feature you can find a bit above this bug description on Launchpad. IMPORTANT 2: Do not post anything if you haven't read all comments to verify that your point hasn't been made. If you feel tempted to stop reading because there are too many messages, that is a strong indicator that you shouldn't add even more comments. Developers have a tough time to find anything if you post redundant stuff. So please abstain from doing that. = - Global menu in general (not only in Unity) is very unergonomic on large screens (see the attached screenshot) because if you have a small window somewhere near the low right corner you have to move the cursor all the way up to to panel to reach the menu. I understand why the global menu was used for the netbook edition (it saves space and most windows are maximized), but since Unity is intended to be for the desktop edition there should be an option to switch to the traditional position of the app menu. It would be welcomed by many desktop users. + Global menu in general (not only in Unity) is very unergonomic on large screens (see the attached screenshot) because if you have a small window somewhere near the low right corner you have to move the cursor all the way up to to panel to reach the menu. I understand why the global menu was used for the netbook edition (it saves space and most windows are maximized), but since Unity is intended to be for the desktop edition there should be an option to switch to the traditional position of the app menu. It would be welcomed by many desktop users. Please try to find a solution for it that works. A commonly suggested solution is: [ ] Global Menu on [ ] Global Menu off [ ] Global Menu only for maximized windows The default is usually suggested as either the first (on) or last (on only for maximized windows). - Desired change: Implement the 'Enhanced Menu' project for 12.10. This project will address the issue described in this bug and also issues described in the duplicates of this bus. Note this is the 'official' bug that tracks the implementation of this project. The following options will be added to 'System Settings/Appearance': --- Menus Location:Global/Local Visibility: Hidden/Always displayed --- ** Changed in: unity Status: Triaged = In Progress ** Changed in: ayatana-design Status: Fix Committed = Fix Released -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/682788 Title: Improve Unity Global Menu To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/682788/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 682788] Re: Improve Unity Global Menu
CONGRATULATIONS, MR. MACKEY! I'm a programmer and I tried to solve the problem, but I had to finish learning C and C++, and learn GTK+, Nux, Compiz and OpenGL, but when I thought I had to learn Nux and Compiz from their source codes, because I couldn't find their documentations, I got scared and gave up solving the problem, so I congratulate you for knowing C, C++, GTK+, Nux, Compiz and OpenGL, and solving the problem. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/682788 Title: Improve Unity Global Menu To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/682788/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 682788] Re: Improve Unity Global Menu
2012/10/20 Kamran Mackey kamranm1...@gmail.com Fixed the issue, You can check for updates using the Software Updater to update your software.To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/682788/+subscriptions Thanks for your effort but I just updated my system and can't find the fix. Where do we find the interface to the fix after updating? I was expecting changes in the Settings-Appearance section as per this draft: http://www.muktware.com/3578/ubuntus-new-enhanced-menu-project, but there's nothing like that in my just-updated system. I'm on 12.04.1 Can you please explain how this works and for which Ubuntu versions? If it's only for 12.10 right now, can you please let us know if we can expect it to be fixed for 12.04.2 too? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/682788 Title: Improve Unity Global Menu To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/682788/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 682788] Re: Improve Unity Global Menu
Whatever clever magic gestures you invent please give option to disable them. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/682788 Title: Improve Unity Global Menu To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/682788/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 682788] Re: Improve Unity Global Menu
The worry: When a title is on the middle of the screen, your pointer is above the title, you want to click a thing slightly below the title and you move the pointer from above the title to slightly below the title, the menu bar appears on top of the thing and you click a menu item instead of the thing. The relief: Firefox has an app button. To use it, disable the Global Menu Bar Integration add-on, restart Firefox, right-click the Home icon, deselect Menu Bar. In the Firefox app button, menu items display sub-menu on a slightly delayed hover. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=589146 You mouse over the title bar, after a slight delay, the menu bar appears. You mouse out of the title and menu bars, after a slight delay, the menu bar disappears. What do you say? ** Bug watch added: Mozilla Bugzilla #589146 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=589146 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/682788 Title: Improve Unity Global Menu To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/682788/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 682788] Re: Improve Unity Global Menu
When the app opens, show the menu bar for a few seconds, then hide it. Warning: the menu bar floats above the app content, because they're layers. for consistency: window controls are always visible and appear by the left of the title in non-maximized windows, so they should be always visible and appear there too in maximized windows for discoverability: google mobile is going to use three horizontal lines to represent a list and shows the Google service and product list when clicked, so instead of showing the menu bar for a few seconds, then hiding it, we could use an yellow icon with three vertical lines inside a circle by the right of the window title that represents a list and shows the menu bar when hovered or touched (These two wishes are very good for tablets, because we don't keep track of the user's finger position in the air, so the user won't hover anything, so the user will see the icon and intentionally touch it.) Agreed? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/682788 Title: Improve Unity Global Menu To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/682788/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 682788] Re: Improve Unity Global Menu
@Pedro: no offense but I'd say new designs are not the issue here. It was pretty much established months ago. We're just waiting for implementation and some voice from the devs camp to explain what's going on. What's stopping them from implementing and publishing the fix. I think your proposals might be worth a discussion at the Ayatana mailing list, though. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/682788 Title: Improve Unity Global Menu To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/682788/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 682788] Re: Improve Unity Global Menu
The wanted option (always show the app menu) is still not present in 12.10. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/682788 Title: Improve Unity Global Menu To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/682788/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 682788] Re: Improve Unity Global Menu
What I find appaling here is that we're a few days away from 12.10's release and not a single developer has had the courtesy of explaning to the 614 people affected by this bug what's being done (or not done) about it. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/682788 Title: Improve Unity Global Menu To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/682788/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 682788] Re: Improve Unity Global Menu
You mouse over the title bar, the url bar appears. You mouse out of the title and url bar, the url bar disappears. by Mozilla Labs at https://addons.mozilla.org/pt-BR/firefox/addon/prospector-lessChrome-HD/?src=search You mouse over the title bar, the menu bar appears. You mouse out of the title and menu bar, the menu bar disappears. like Mozilla Labs What do you say? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/682788 Title: Improve Unity Global Menu To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/682788/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 682788] Re: Improve Unity Global Menu
** Summary changed: - Improve Unity menus + Improve Unity Global Menu -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/682788 Title: Improve Unity Global Menu To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/682788/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
