[Bug 731481] Re: second window does not open CTRL-T
[Expired for nautilus (Ubuntu) because there has been no activity for 60 days.] ** Changed in: nautilus (Ubuntu) Status: Incomplete = Expired -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to nautilus in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/731481 Title: second window does not open CTRL-T To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/731481/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 731481] Re: second window does not open CTRL-T
first tab opening is always perfect! I'm speculating and searching for any idea of what could be causing this. I have seen it but can't repeat it now. Everything I try works fine for the last 2 days. Same behavior for me with Maverick 10.10 and Natty 11.04 Joe -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to nautilus in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/731481 Title: second window does not open CTRL-T -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 731481] Re: second window does not open CTRL-T
OK. Like I said, I'm a new member of the bug squad and I've kind of adopted your problem as my cause. So if you want to give up before I do, just say so. I'm convinced there is a problem, perhaps it's just the lack of an error message but hanging with a permanent busy cursor is not the best response. Just to be clear it works 100% on the first tab and almost 0% on the second but we've seen it work at least once. Right? Let's try to eliminate the network as the issue. What happens if you open a local folder like Documents instead of the sftp remote? Can you open multiple tabs to the same folder? If that doesn't work it points to Nautilus or the state it's in. If it does work, it is more evidence that it's something with the network I just had another thought. It's possible your ISP is limiting the number of sftp connection allowed at one time. We can test this from a Terminal window by using command line sftp then open another tab and doing it again, and perhaps a 3rd and 4th time. I don't know how many connections Nautilus uses per tab it could be more than one for efficiency. Joe -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to nautilus in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/731481 Title: second window does not open CTRL-T -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 731481] Re: second window does not open CTRL-T
My house has standard CAB5 ethernet cables and we connect to a hub to a router and then via dsl to the internet. these connections are hardcoded, i do not use dhcp. the connections to the internet are to two ISP where I (resp. my customers) have my/their webspace. these are the most prominent isp in germany 11 and strato. Bandwidth is between 30 kbit/s and 476 kbit/s depending whether my kids are playing or downloading. bernhard -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to nautilus in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/731481 Title: second window does not open CTRL-T -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 731481] Re: second window does not open CTRL-T
Thanks Bernhard, I will now concentrate on sftp conections over the Internet. Please note that occasional dropped packets over the Internet is a fact of life, not a comment on the quality of connection (unless it gets bad). The fact that it sometimes works and sometimes doesn't is what leads me to believe it's a random event that causes it and the network is the usual suspect. I'm not sure yet but it just seems most likely. We can estimate the dropped packet rate with ping. Ping the server and let it run for oh 20 min then hit cntrl C. You'll get a report like: 204 packets transmitted, 204 received, 0% packet loss, time 203321ms rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 23.048/25.333/40.702/2.276 ms Some routers do not pass the ping (ICMP) packets but if it works for you it will give us an idea of how well it works. One more thing we can try is the command line sftp. Do you have any problems connecting and doing an ls command. That is how Nautilus gets its list of files to display, pretty much. I'm not sure if there's any difference in error handling. Joe -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to nautilus in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/731481 Title: second window does not open CTRL-T -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 731481] Re: second window does not open CTRL-T
--- ftp.rzone.de ping statistics --- 2929 packets transmitted, 2924 received, 0% packet loss, time 2934800ms rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 51.274/122.542/304.807/83.919 ms ;) Bernhard -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to nautilus in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/731481 Title: second window does not open CTRL-T -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 731481] Re: second window does not open CTRL-T
hmmm I got a perfect set for similar time from California --- ftp.rzone.de ping statistics --- 2575 packets transmitted, 2575 received, 0% packet loss, time 2575395ms rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 169.253/172.042/459.499/7.316 ms So when the network is this good do you still see the same behavior. Maybe open one tab but hang on the next. It sounds like your failure rate is close to 100% with rare ability to open a second tab to the same place. How about that first tab is it similar or does it always open OK? I'm speculating and searching for any idea of what could be causing this. I have seen it but can't repeat it now. Everything I try works fine for the last 2 days. Same behavior for me with Maverick 10.10 and Natty 11.04 Joe -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to nautilus in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/731481 Title: second window does not open CTRL-T -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 731481] Re: second window does not open CTRL-T
Thanks Bernhard, No sftp is a different protocol than Samba. Samba connects to Windows shared folder. But both rely on the network. I've been struggling to reproduce the problem, now I will try with sftp. I'm starting to think we're seeing network issues. A dropped or corrupted packet could be causing the hang up. I think a much better action would be for the system to report the error or better yet retry it a few times. So the problem is how do we prove it or find a way to repeat it. Tell me about your network. Are you on a wireless or wired connection between the system that hangs and the one with the files? How reliable is it? What kind of through put are you getting? Are you connecting to a system on your local network or over the Internet? Perhaps we could get it to happen and then to a ping for a few minutes and see if any packets are lost. I'll see if I can find a network testing tool that simulates an unreliable network. Joe -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to nautilus in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/731481 Title: second window does not open CTRL-T -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 731481] Re: second window does not open CTRL-T
Hi, sorry I was to fast: It worked only once: I had opened nautilus with the (standard) home directory and could open a second tab using ctrl-T. But then again, when I tried to change from home to a network directory, this took forever and the network directory thus was never loaded, which worked, however, when taking the corresponding entry from a fresh single tab working nautilus. After that, even a second home directory tab could not be launched. the same error as reported. Please find enclosed the outcome from the suggested command. Greetings Bernhard ** Attachment added: nautilusBuggy.txt https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/731481/+attachment/1958630/+files/nautilusBuggy.txt -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to nautilus in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/731481 Title: second window does not open CTRL-T -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 731481] Re: second window does not open CTRL-T
I've been trying different scenarios and found one similar when I try to open a samba share on a Vista machine that only shares a printer no files. I think we're looking at a Samba issue. I'll search for similar bugs. What kind of network directory are you trying to connect to? (Windows share, nfs, ftp) One way to answer this is to use the Connect to Server command from the file menu. Another is to look at the location bar in nautilus. smb://path is samba sftp:// uses secure ftp ... Once I know the type of network directory I'd like to try the command line access method to see if we can get an error message instead of hanging. If we can come up with a repeatable scenario that demonstrates the problem we have a better chance of getting it fixed. Right now I think the missing piece (or at least the next missing piece) is the type of network share we're dealing with. Note: I am NOT asking for your username/password but I have a general question. Is the username on the share the same as the username you use to log into Ubuntu? Do you see the dialog asking for password? Joe -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to nautilus in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/731481 Title: second window does not open CTRL-T -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 731481] Re: second window does not open CTRL-T
Am Donnerstag, den 31.03.2011, 15:11 + schrieb Joe Areeda: I've been trying different scenarios and found one similar when I try to open a samba share on a Vista machine that only shares a printer no files. I think we're looking at a Samba issue. I'll search for similar bugs. What kind of network directory are you trying to connect to? (Windows share, nfs, ftp) One way to answer this is to use the Connect to Server command from the file menu. Another is to look at the location bar in nautilus. smb://path is samba sftp:// uses secure ftp ... Once I know the type of network directory I'd like to try the command line access method to see if we can get an error message instead of hanging. If we can come up with a repeatable scenario that demonstrates the problem we have a better chance of getting it fixed. Right now I think the missing piece (or at least the next missing piece) is the type of network share we're dealing with. Note: I am NOT asking for your username/password but I have a general question. Is the username on the share the same as the username you use to log into Ubuntu? Do you see the dialog asking for password? Joe I have sftp connections saved in the sidebar of nautilus. they actuallly use the same username. and when I open this connection using nautilus, there is a password dialogue. I wonder whether this is an samba issues, since the server where i am going to be connected to, is most probably a linux server (i have seen the typical directories of linux using a commandline ssh), therefore, a samba connection is most unlikely. This would mean that, whenever a sftp connection has been established once, nautilus ctrl-T would no longer work, even for local directories. Would be strange enough, that it had not been seen before by others. If you would like to enquire along this line, you might find the error. It would be no problem to re-install the nautilus-packages again, and run nautilus using gdb to get a trace while producing the errorneous behavior. greetings bernhard -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to nautilus in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/731481 Title: second window does not open CTRL-T -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 731481] Re: second window does not open CTRL-T
Yesterday, I tested this again and the bug is still there. Do you have any idea how to proceed? any help appreciated bernhard -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to nautilus in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/731481 Title: second window does not open CTRL-T -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 731481] Re: second window does not open CTRL-T
Am Mittwoch, den 30.03.2011, 05:29 + schrieb Joe Areeda: I've tried to duplicate this. In Maverick 10.10 and Natty 11.04 control-T works as expected and opens a new tab. I've had hard disk partitions, folders, nfs mounts and CDs. I reinstalled every package with nautilus in its name and, wonder oh wonder, it works. Thus can be closed. Bernhard -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to nautilus in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/731481 Title: second window does not open CTRL-T -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 731481] Re: second window does not open CTRL-T
Great news. I'm new to the bug squad and have been using this one to learn the ropes. Trying to duplicate it. Trying to see what's different from my testing system and the one that had the problem Would you do one thing for my education? enter the command: ubuntu-bug --save works.txt nautilus That will save the current information on packages and options related to nautilus (same as those attached to the bug report). I would like to take a look at what's different. Joe -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to nautilus in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/731481 Title: second window does not open CTRL-T -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 731481] Re: second window does not open CTRL-T
I've tried to duplicate this. In Maverick 10.10 and Natty 11.04 control-T works as expected and opens a new tab. I've had hard disk partitions, folders, nfs mounts and CDs. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to nautilus in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/731481 Title: second window does not open CTRL-T -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 731481] Re: second window does not open CTRL-T
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