Re: Proposal: Replace all references to master/slave in GNOME modules

2019-05-01 Thread Richard Hughes via desktop-devel-list
On Wed, 1 May 2019 at 12:38, Michael Gratton  wrote:
> They have also been successful in getting other projects to use more
> inclusive language. For example, MongoDB initially refused to stop
> using the term "master", but then relented after Python did so.

That's misrepresenting it *AGAIN*. Both stopped using master along
with slave. The main developer branch is still called master in both
projects.

Richard.
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Re: Proposal: Replace all references to master/slave in GNOME modules

2019-05-01 Thread Richard Hughes via desktop-devel-list
On Wed, 1 May 2019 at 06:23, Tristan Van Berkom via desktop-devel-list
 wrote:
> Proposing that we replace references to master/slave relationships with
> other terminology and proposing that we eliminate the usage of both
> words entirely are two entirely different proposals, this is a proposal
> of the latter which appears to be masquerading as the former.

This nails my thinking completely. I've already removed all references
to master/slave in my other projects (fwupd and LVFS), but renaming
the master branch which has no connection with any kind of slave is
just a completely different proposal.

Richard.
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Re: Proposal: Replace all references to master/slave in GNOME modules

2019-04-25 Thread Richard Hughes via desktop-devel-list
On Thu, 25 Apr 2019 at 06:21,  wrote:
> This should go without saying, but master branches are not a reference
> to slavery, rather to canonicity. The master branch is the canonical
> branch, the primary copy.

This is very much my thinking too. I'd agree with this proposal if
every branch forked from master was called slave/hughsie/whatever but
in this case the master is clearly referring to the canonical version
that the others are derived from. The word "master" isn't a bad word,
and doesn't always mean the opposite of slave.

I was hesitant to reply to this conversation as a middle-aged, middle
income white man but felt like I had to say something. I'll go get my
flame proof suit...

Richard.
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Re: App menu retirement: progress update

2018-11-01 Thread Richard Hughes via desktop-devel-list
On Wed, 31 Oct 2018 at 17:09, Allan Day  wrote:
> gnome-multi-writer

Removed in master.

Richard.
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GNOME Mastodon Instance?

2018-10-09 Thread Richard Hughes via desktop-devel-list
Hi all,

Now that Google+ is declared officially dead, I wondered if GNOME
would consider hosting a Mastodon instance. There's a bug already
open, https://gitlab.gnome.org/Infrastructure/Infrastructure/issues/23
-- but I guess this needs someone to drive this and actually do the
work. I know I would trust a GNOME instance more than a random server,
both from a privacy point of view and security/moderation point of
view. It seems a shame to loose all the useful geeky connections with
people in the Open Source community, as people scatter to Twitter,
Facebook and all the other non-free places. Maybe now is the perfect
time to promote Mastodon and GNOME?

Richard.
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Re: No app menu changes for GNOME 3.30, please!

2018-07-27 Thread Richard Hughes via desktop-devel-list
On Tue, 24 Jul 2018 at 17:32,  wrote:
>  From the lack of objections to Allan's original proposal, it's clear
> that we have consensus on removing the app menus, so I suggest we
> should feel free to delete our app menus in master after branching for
> 3.30.

I'm currently on PTO for another week (stuck up a mountain with no
internet access) -- but I can certainly do this when I get back. There
are commits on top of the app-menu removal already so it's not just a
case of just reverting a patch.

Richard.
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