[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1696250] Re: Please hide Start Center and Math

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This bug was fixed in the package libreoffice - 1:7.1.2~rc2-0ubuntu2

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libreoffice (1:7.1.2~rc2-0ubuntu2) hirsute; urgency=medium

  [ Heather Ellsworth ]
  * Re-enable startcenter and math application icons. (LP: #1696250)

 -- Rico Tzschichholz   Fri, 09 Apr 2021 16:05:03
+0200

** Changed in: libreoffice (Ubuntu)
   Status: Fix Committed => Fix Released

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Title:
  Please hide Start Center and Math

Status in libreoffice package in Ubuntu:
  Fix Released
Status in libreoffice package in Debian:
  Won't Fix

Bug description:
  From GNOME Shell, open the Applications Overview and click the Show
  Applications button to see the list of apps. Currently, LibreOffice
  takes up a whole row on my computer (6 icons) which seems excessive
  with GNOME Shell's current design.

  I suggest that we do like Fedora and hide the LibreOffice Start Center
  and LibreOffice Math.

  Instead of opening a Start Center, it makes more sense for a user to
  just open the app they want directly.

  I don't think users want to create a mathematical formula just to
  create one, but to insert into a document so it makes more sense to
  start Math from within the other app.

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[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1696250] Re: Please hide Start Center and Math

[Heather Ellsworth]

After reading through everything, sounds like there are more folks that
want these icons back than not. And I completely see the use case of
having these icons so I've added this fix:

https://git.launchpad.net/~hellsworth/+git/libreoffice/commit/?h=bring-
back-startcenter-math-icons-
LP1696250=bc615536a4c460c885e5e0056bf6a667091a0b97

It will be cherry-picked and available in a future release.

** Changed in: libreoffice (Ubuntu)
 Assignee: Olivier Tilloy (osomon) => Heather Ellsworth (hellsworth)

** Changed in: libreoffice (Ubuntu)
   Status: Triaged => Fix Committed

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Title:
  Please hide Start Center and Math

Status in libreoffice package in Ubuntu:
  Fix Committed
Status in libreoffice package in Debian:
  Won't Fix

Bug description:
  From GNOME Shell, open the Applications Overview and click the Show
  Applications button to see the list of apps. Currently, LibreOffice
  takes up a whole row on my computer (6 icons) which seems excessive
  with GNOME Shell's current design.

  I suggest that we do like Fedora and hide the LibreOffice Start Center
  and LibreOffice Math.

  Instead of opening a Start Center, it makes more sense for a user to
  just open the app they want directly.

  I don't think users want to create a mathematical formula just to
  create one, but to insert into a document so it makes more sense to
  start Math from within the other app.

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[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1696250] Re: Please hide Start Center and Math

[Gunnar Hjalmarsson]

The decision to hide the LO startcenter launcher was recently questioned
in a thread at the ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list:

https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-
discuss/2021-March/018966.html

I too would like that launcher become visible again. It's not only about
the visual impression in the "Start Applications" view, but the
technique for hiding the LO startcenter launcher prevents you from
having it among the "Favorites" in the Dock. Myself was in the habit of
replacing the Writer/Impress/Calc icons in the Dock with the startcenter
one.

Also, as pointed out in comment #12 above, there are use cases where the
LO startcenter plays a role on its own merits.

Debian didn't hide it, btw. While they hid Math, they chose to keep
startcenter visible.

Please consider to drop hide-startcenter-desktop-file.patch.

** Changed in: libreoffice (Ubuntu)
   Status: Fix Released => Triaged

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Title:
  Please hide Start Center and Math

Status in libreoffice package in Ubuntu:
  Triaged
Status in libreoffice package in Debian:
  Won't Fix

Bug description:
  From GNOME Shell, open the Applications Overview and click the Show
  Applications button to see the list of apps. Currently, LibreOffice
  takes up a whole row on my computer (6 icons) which seems excessive
  with GNOME Shell's current design.

  I suggest that we do like Fedora and hide the LibreOffice Start Center
  and LibreOffice Math.

  Instead of opening a Start Center, it makes more sense for a user to
  just open the app they want directly.

  I don't think users want to create a mathematical formula just to
  create one, but to insert into a document so it makes more sense to
  start Math from within the other app.

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[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1696250] Re: Please hide Start Center and Math

[Lei Zhao]

Genius! This is not a bug.  I am very flabbergasted to find out there is
a line of "NotShowIn=GNOME;" in the desktop file since I try to debug
why the start center simply don't show up in the gnome app search
results. When you edit multiple kinds of office files, the start center
is extremely useful. It shows up a aggregated list of recently opened
office files. To access the file through the methods you proposed, I
have to click multiple times and don't have a top picture of recently
edited files.

If start center is not useful, why have it in the first place? Why not
remove it completely from the codebase?

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Title:
  Please hide Start Center and Math

Status in libreoffice package in Ubuntu:
  Fix Released
Status in libreoffice package in Debian:
  Won't Fix

Bug description:
  From GNOME Shell, open the Applications Overview and click the Show
  Applications button to see the list of apps. Currently, LibreOffice
  takes up a whole row on my computer (6 icons) which seems excessive
  with GNOME Shell's current design.

  I suggest that we do like Fedora and hide the LibreOffice Start Center
  and LibreOffice Math.

  Instead of opening a Start Center, it makes more sense for a user to
  just open the app they want directly.

  I don't think users want to create a mathematical formula just to
  create one, but to insert into a document so it makes more sense to
  start Math from within the other app.

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[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1696250] Re: Please hide Start Center and Math

[Adolfo Jayme]

The Yaru team didn’t create icons for Math because this bug caused them
to miss it. Congratulations on being unhelpful.

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Title:
  Please hide Start Center and Math

Status in libreoffice package in Ubuntu:
  Fix Released
Status in libreoffice package in Debian:
  Won't Fix

Bug description:
  From GNOME Shell, open the Applications Overview and click the Show
  Applications button to see the list of apps. Currently, LibreOffice
  takes up a whole row on my computer (6 icons) which seems excessive
  with GNOME Shell's current design.

  I suggest that we do like Fedora and hide the LibreOffice Start Center
  and LibreOffice Math.

  Instead of opening a Start Center, it makes more sense for a user to
  just open the app they want directly.

  I don't think users want to create a mathematical formula just to
  create one, but to insert into a document so it makes more sense to
  start Math from within the other app.

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[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1696250] Re: Please hide Start Center and Math

[Olivier Tilloy]

This is not just my personal preference, this was requested by actual users.
Not everything can be put to some kind of vote first, or we'd have brexits all 
over the place. More seriously this is open to reconsideration if you can make 
a strong case for it (other than just « I prefer it the other way »). Maybe 
start a discussion on https://community.ubuntu.com/c/desktop and see if it gets 
traction?

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Title:
  Please hide Start Center and Math

Status in libreoffice package in Ubuntu:
  Fix Released
Status in libreoffice package in Debian:
  Won't Fix

Bug description:
  From GNOME Shell, open the Applications Overview and click the Show
  Applications button to see the list of apps. Currently, LibreOffice
  takes up a whole row on my computer (6 icons) which seems excessive
  with GNOME Shell's current design.

  I suggest that we do like Fedora and hide the LibreOffice Start Center
  and LibreOffice Math.

  Instead of opening a Start Center, it makes more sense for a user to
  just open the app they want directly.

  I don't think users want to create a mathematical formula just to
  create one, but to insert into a document so it makes more sense to
  start Math from within the other app.

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[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1696250] Re: Please hide Start Center and Math

[John W. Brown, Jr.]

This was not a "bug", but more so a preference. It makes more sense to
have 1 icon that represents the entire suite than separate ones for each
application IMO. Not a fan of the M$ way. This should have been put to
some kind of vote first. Hoping we can reverse this. It's pretty
annoying to have to undo just because Oliver didn't like it. A user can
add as little or as much to their favorites as they like. Dealer's
choice.

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Title:
  Please hide Start Center and Math

Status in libreoffice package in Ubuntu:
  Fix Released
Status in libreoffice package in Debian:
  Won't Fix

Bug description:
  From GNOME Shell, open the Applications Overview and click the Show
  Applications button to see the list of apps. Currently, LibreOffice
  takes up a whole row on my computer (6 icons) which seems excessive
  with GNOME Shell's current design.

  I suggest that we do like Fedora and hide the LibreOffice Start Center
  and LibreOffice Math.

  Instead of opening a Start Center, it makes more sense for a user to
  just open the app they want directly.

  I don't think users want to create a mathematical formula just to
  create one, but to insert into a document so it makes more sense to
  start Math from within the other app.

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[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1696250] Re: Please hide Start Center and Math

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** Changed in: libreoffice (Debian)
   Status: Fix Committed => Won't Fix

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  Please hide Start Center and Math

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  Fix Released
Status in libreoffice package in Debian:
  Won't Fix

Bug description:
  From GNOME Shell, open the Applications Overview and click the Show
  Applications button to see the list of apps. Currently, LibreOffice
  takes up a whole row on my computer (6 icons) which seems excessive
  with GNOME Shell's current design.

  I suggest that we do like Fedora and hide the LibreOffice Start Center
  and LibreOffice Math.

  Instead of opening a Start Center, it makes more sense for a user to
  just open the app they want directly.

  I don't think users want to create a mathematical formula just to
  create one, but to insert into a document so it makes more sense to
  start Math from within the other app.

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[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1696250] Re: Please hide Start Center and Math

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** Changed in: libreoffice (Debian)
   Status: New => Fix Committed

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Title:
  Please hide Start Center and Math

Status in libreoffice package in Ubuntu:
  Fix Released
Status in libreoffice package in Debian:
  Fix Committed

Bug description:
  From GNOME Shell, open the Applications Overview and click the Show
  Applications button to see the list of apps. Currently, LibreOffice
  takes up a whole row on my computer (6 icons) which seems excessive
  with GNOME Shell's current design.

  I suggest that we do like Fedora and hide the LibreOffice Start Center
  and LibreOffice Math.

  Instead of opening a Start Center, it makes more sense for a user to
  just open the app they want directly.

  I don't think users want to create a mathematical formula just to
  create one, but to insert into a document so it makes more sense to
  start Math from within the other app.

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[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1696250] Re: Please hide Start Center and Math

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This bug was fixed in the package libreoffice - 1:6.0.1-0ubuntu3

---
libreoffice (1:6.0.1-0ubuntu3) bionic; urgency=medium

  [ Olivier Tilloy ]
  * debian/patches/uitest-skip-test_text_direction.patch: removed

  [ Rene Engelhard ]
  * debian/patches/orcus-0.13.3.diff: backport patches to fix build/tests
against orcus 0.13.3

  [ Rico Tzschichholz ]
  * debian/patches/solenv-Update-gb_PackageInfo_emit_l10n_for_one_lang.patch:
Update gb_PackageInfo_emit_l10n_for_one_lang to add cjk_*, ctl_* and
ctlseqcheck_$LANG.xcd files to install list (LP: #1750335)
  * Fix libvisio and libqxp shlibs dependency (Thanks Rene)

 -- Olivier Tilloy   Fri, 23 Feb 2018
13:33:59 +0100

** Changed in: libreoffice (Ubuntu)
   Status: Fix Committed => Fix Released

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Title:
  Please hide Start Center and Math

Status in libreoffice package in Ubuntu:
  Fix Released
Status in libreoffice package in Debian:
  New

Bug description:
  From GNOME Shell, open the Applications Overview and click the Show
  Applications button to see the list of apps. Currently, LibreOffice
  takes up a whole row on my computer (6 icons) which seems excessive
  with GNOME Shell's current design.

  I suggest that we do like Fedora and hide the LibreOffice Start Center
  and LibreOffice Math.

  Instead of opening a Start Center, it makes more sense for a user to
  just open the app they want directly.

  I don't think users want to create a mathematical formula just to
  create one, but to insert into a document so it makes more sense to
  start Math from within the other app.

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[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1696250] Re: Please hide Start Center and Math

[Olivier Tilloy]

Patch:
https://git.launchpad.net/~libreoffice/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/commit/?id=2da4c70c258aff88f174e44138cd0f43d613af4d

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Title:
  Please hide Start Center and Math

Status in libreoffice package in Ubuntu:
  Fix Committed
Status in libreoffice package in Debian:
  New

Bug description:
  From GNOME Shell, open the Applications Overview and click the Show
  Applications button to see the list of apps. Currently, LibreOffice
  takes up a whole row on my computer (6 icons) which seems excessive
  with GNOME Shell's current design.

  I suggest that we do like Fedora and hide the LibreOffice Start Center
  and LibreOffice Math.

  Instead of opening a Start Center, it makes more sense for a user to
  just open the app they want directly.

  I don't think users want to create a mathematical formula just to
  create one, but to insert into a document so it makes more sense to
  start Math from within the other app.

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[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1696250] Re: Please hide Start Center and Math

[Olivier Tilloy]

Given the discussion on the debian bug, I chose to implement this using
"NotShowIn=GNOME;" for the startcenter and math desktop files.

** Changed in: libreoffice (Ubuntu)
   Status: Confirmed => Fix Committed

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Title:
  Please hide Start Center and Math

Status in libreoffice package in Ubuntu:
  Fix Committed
Status in libreoffice package in Debian:
  New

Bug description:
  From GNOME Shell, open the Applications Overview and click the Show
  Applications button to see the list of apps. Currently, LibreOffice
  takes up a whole row on my computer (6 icons) which seems excessive
  with GNOME Shell's current design.

  I suggest that we do like Fedora and hide the LibreOffice Start Center
  and LibreOffice Math.

  Instead of opening a Start Center, it makes more sense for a user to
  just open the app they want directly.

  I don't think users want to create a mathematical formula just to
  create one, but to insert into a document so it makes more sense to
  start Math from within the other app.

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[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1696250] Re: Please hide Start Center and Math

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** Changed in: libreoffice (Debian)
   Status: Unknown => New

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Title:
  Please hide Start Center and Math

Status in libreoffice package in Ubuntu:
  Confirmed
Status in libreoffice package in Debian:
  New

Bug description:
  From GNOME Shell, open the Applications Overview and click the Show
  Applications button to see the list of apps. Currently, LibreOffice
  takes up a whole row on my computer (6 icons) which seems excessive
  with GNOME Shell's current design.

  I suggest that we do like Fedora and hide the LibreOffice Start Center
  and LibreOffice Math.

  Instead of opening a Start Center, it makes more sense for a user to
  just open the app they want directly.

  I don't think users want to create a mathematical formula just to
  create one, but to insert into a document so it makes more sense to
  start Math from within the other app.

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[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1696250] Re: Please hide Start Center and Math

[Jeremy Bicha]

** Bug watch added: Debian Bug tracker #883734
   https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=883734

** Also affects: libreoffice (Debian) via
   https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=883734
   Importance: Unknown
   Status: Unknown

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  Please hide Start Center and Math

Status in libreoffice package in Ubuntu:
  Confirmed
Status in libreoffice package in Debian:
  Unknown

Bug description:
  From GNOME Shell, open the Applications Overview and click the Show
  Applications button to see the list of apps. Currently, LibreOffice
  takes up a whole row on my computer (6 icons) which seems excessive
  with GNOME Shell's current design.

  I suggest that we do like Fedora and hide the LibreOffice Start Center
  and LibreOffice Math.

  Instead of opening a Start Center, it makes more sense for a user to
  just open the app they want directly.

  I don't think users want to create a mathematical formula just to
  create one, but to insert into a document so it makes more sense to
  start Math from within the other app.

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[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1696250] Re: Please hide Start Center and Math

[Olivier Tilloy]

For completeness: grouping all the libreoffice icons into an app folder¹
was considered, but dismissed as going against the upstream GNOME trend.


¹ https://wiki.gnome.org/HowDoI/AppFolders

** Changed in: libreoffice (Ubuntu)
 Assignee: (unassigned) => Olivier Tilloy (osomon)

** Changed in: libreoffice (Ubuntu)
   Status: New => Confirmed

** Changed in: libreoffice (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided => Medium

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Title:
  Please hide Start Center and Math

Status in libreoffice package in Ubuntu:
  Confirmed

Bug description:
  From GNOME Shell, open the Applications Overview and click the Show
  Applications button to see the list of apps. Currently, LibreOffice
  takes up a whole row on my computer (6 icons) which seems excessive
  with GNOME Shell's current design.

  I suggest that we do like Fedora and hide the LibreOffice Start Center
  and LibreOffice Math.

  Instead of opening a Start Center, it makes more sense for a user to
  just open the app they want directly.

  I don't think users want to create a mathematical formula just to
  create one, but to insert into a document so it makes more sense to
  start Math from within the other app.

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[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1696250] Re: Please hide Start Center and Math

[Olivier Tilloy]

> Why would you want to run Math separately?

I personally wouldn't, but it might be a valid use case for some users.
It feels a bit harsh to be hiding the application from them.


> You could move the .desktop and appstream metadata for LibreOffice Math
> into a separate binary package installable from the GNOME Software app.

If I understand correctly, the intent is that users who really want Math will 
go and install that package from the GNOME Software app, thinking that they are 
installing the actual application when in fact they are merely adding a desktop 
file for the already installed app?
That sounds like a clumsy hack, not a real solution (and additional 
maintenance).


> But once again, I'm not sure people care that much to want to run
> LO Math separately instead of from inside LO Writer or whatever app
> they want the formula in.

Ideally we would gather some stats on that kind of usage before making a
decision. Given the potentially low impact though, I don't mind going
the NoDisplay=true route and see how that goes for users.


> If you want custom search results, you could write a GNOME Shell
> search provider. I think it's overkill here though.

Definitely overkill here.

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Title:
  Please hide Start Center and Math

Status in libreoffice package in Ubuntu:
  New

Bug description:
  From GNOME Shell, open the Applications Overview and click the Show
  Applications button to see the list of apps. Currently, LibreOffice
  takes up a whole row on my computer (6 icons) which seems excessive
  with GNOME Shell's current design.

  I suggest that we do like Fedora and hide the LibreOffice Start Center
  and LibreOffice Math.

  Instead of opening a Start Center, it makes more sense for a user to
  just open the app they want directly.

  I don't think users want to create a mathematical formula just to
  create one, but to insert into a document so it makes more sense to
  start Math from within the other app.

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[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1696250] Re: Please hide Start Center and Math

[Jeremy Bicha]

If you want custom search results, you could write a GNOME Shell search
provider. I think it's overkill here though.

https://developer.gnome.org/SearchProvider/

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Title:
  Please hide Start Center and Math

Status in libreoffice package in Ubuntu:
  New

Bug description:
  From GNOME Shell, open the Applications Overview and click the Show
  Applications button to see the list of apps. Currently, LibreOffice
  takes up a whole row on my computer (6 icons) which seems excessive
  with GNOME Shell's current design.

  I suggest that we do like Fedora and hide the LibreOffice Start Center
  and LibreOffice Math.

  Instead of opening a Start Center, it makes more sense for a user to
  just open the app they want directly.

  I don't think users want to create a mathematical formula just to
  create one, but to insert into a document so it makes more sense to
  start Math from within the other app.

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[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1696250] Re: Please hide Start Center and Math

[Jeremy Bicha]

Why would you want to run Math separately?

> @Jeremy: are you aware of another mechanism to hide some apps from the
applications list by default, without making them completely invisible
to the user?

No.

Well, I mean there is a bit of a hack. You could move the .desktop and
appstream metadata for LibreOffice Math into a separate binary package
installable from the GNOME Software app. LO Math would still technically
be installed because it's needed by the core LO apps Ubuntu ships but
without a .desktop it is not very visible. This is similar to how Fedora
ships Epiphany by default (discussed in LP: #1689317 ). Ping me on chat
if you want more explanation of how that works.

But once again, I'm not sure people care that much to want to run LO
Math separately instead of from inside LO Writer or whatever app they
want the formula in.

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Title:
  Please hide Start Center and Math

Status in libreoffice package in Ubuntu:
  New

Bug description:
  From GNOME Shell, open the Applications Overview and click the Show
  Applications button to see the list of apps. Currently, LibreOffice
  takes up a whole row on my computer (6 icons) which seems excessive
  with GNOME Shell's current design.

  I suggest that we do like Fedora and hide the LibreOffice Start Center
  and LibreOffice Math.

  Instead of opening a Start Center, it makes more sense for a user to
  just open the app they want directly.

  I don't think users want to create a mathematical formula just to
  create one, but to insert into a document so it makes more sense to
  start Math from within the other app.

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[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1696250] Re: Please hide Start Center and Math

[Olivier Tilloy]

That can be achieved by changing the NoDisplay key to true in the
corresponding desktop files
(/usr/share/applications/libreoffice-*.desktop).

However, doing that will completely and always hide those applications
from the applications view, so they will effectively become very hard to
find for a user.

Consider this: I might want math and startcenter to be hidden by default
when I search "libreo" in the applications view, because they are less
likely to be useful to the majority of users, but if I search "math" I
would expect the app to be found. With NoDisplay=true it won't.

@Jeremy: are you aware of another mechanism to hide some apps from the
applications list by default, without making them completely invisible
to the user?

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Title:
  Please hide Start Center and Math

Status in libreoffice package in Ubuntu:
  New

Bug description:
  From GNOME Shell, open the Applications Overview and click the Show
  Applications button to see the list of apps. Currently, LibreOffice
  takes up a whole row on my computer (6 icons) which seems excessive
  with GNOME Shell's current design.

  I suggest that we do like Fedora and hide the LibreOffice Start Center
  and LibreOffice Math.

  Instead of opening a Start Center, it makes more sense for a user to
  just open the app they want directly.

  I don't think users want to create a mathematical formula just to
  create one, but to insert into a document so it makes more sense to
  start Math from within the other app.

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