[Desktop-packages] [Bug 840777] Re: Muting sound indicator in Unity Greeter does not mute sound on login

[Daniel van Vugt]

Closed due to no response.

** Changed in: pulseaudio (Ubuntu)
   Status: Incomplete => Invalid

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Title:
  Muting sound indicator in Unity Greeter does not mute sound on login

Status in Ayatana Design:
  Fix Committed
Status in The Sound Menu:
  Invalid
Status in Unity Greeter:
  Invalid
Status in gsettings-ubuntu-touch-schemas package in Ubuntu:
  Fix Released
Status in indicator-sound package in Ubuntu:
  Fix Released
Status in pulseaudio package in Ubuntu:
  Invalid

Bug description:
  I am using beta edition of Ubuntu 11.10,with lightdm 0.9.3-0ubuntu8,and unity 
4.12.0-0ubuntu2,
  There is a new feature in Display Manager(well,I didn't notice it in gdm,but 
it might have been there as well),That you can mute the sound so that login 
sound wont play(This option exists in the top of the lightdm login page,when 
you turn on ubuntu and load it)However,Login sound will still play and sound 
settings will change regardless of what you choose.
  I should add that,this happens only after a reboot or shutdown,boot again,and 
not when you logout and login again

  : "Sound volume should also be
  independent of which user — or whether any user — is logged in. This
  way, if you mute or turn down sound at the login screen, you will not
  be surprised or frustrated by sound playing loudly after you log in."

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[Desktop-packages] [Bug 840777] Re: Muting sound indicator in Unity Greeter does not mute sound on login

[Daniel van Vugt]

Is this bug still relevant to pulseaudio?

** Changed in: pulseaudio (Ubuntu)
   Status: Triaged => Incomplete

** Changed in: ayatana-design
 Assignee: John Lea (johnlea) => (unassigned)

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Title:
  Muting sound indicator in Unity Greeter does not mute sound on login

Status in Ayatana Design:
  Fix Committed
Status in The Sound Menu:
  Invalid
Status in Unity Greeter:
  Invalid
Status in gsettings-ubuntu-touch-schemas package in Ubuntu:
  Fix Released
Status in indicator-sound package in Ubuntu:
  Fix Released
Status in pulseaudio package in Ubuntu:
  Incomplete

Bug description:
  I am using beta edition of Ubuntu 11.10,with lightdm 0.9.3-0ubuntu8,and unity 
4.12.0-0ubuntu2,
  There is a new feature in Display Manager(well,I didn't notice it in gdm,but 
it might have been there as well),That you can mute the sound so that login 
sound wont play(This option exists in the top of the lightdm login page,when 
you turn on ubuntu and load it)However,Login sound will still play and sound 
settings will change regardless of what you choose.
  I should add that,this happens only after a reboot or shutdown,boot again,and 
not when you logout and login again

  : "Sound volume should also be
  independent of which user — or whether any user — is logged in. This
  way, if you mute or turn down sound at the login screen, you will not
  be surprised or frustrated by sound playing loudly after you log in."

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[Desktop-packages] [Bug 840777] Re: Muting sound indicator in Unity Greeter does not mute sound on login

[Daniel van Vugt]

Thank you for reporting this bug to Ubuntu.
Ubuntu 11.10 (oneiric) reached end-of-life on May 9, 2013.

See this document for currently supported Ubuntu releases:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases 

We appreciate that this bug may be old and you might not be interested
in discussing it any more. But if you are then please upgrade to the
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Title:
  Muting sound indicator in Unity Greeter does not mute sound on login

Status in Ayatana Design:
  Fix Committed
Status in The Sound Menu:
  Invalid
Status in Unity Greeter:
  Invalid
Status in gsettings-ubuntu-touch-schemas package in Ubuntu:
  Fix Released
Status in indicator-sound package in Ubuntu:
  Fix Released
Status in pulseaudio package in Ubuntu:
  Incomplete

Bug description:
  I am using beta edition of Ubuntu 11.10,with lightdm 0.9.3-0ubuntu8,and unity 
4.12.0-0ubuntu2,
  There is a new feature in Display Manager(well,I didn't notice it in gdm,but 
it might have been there as well),That you can mute the sound so that login 
sound wont play(This option exists in the top of the lightdm login page,when 
you turn on ubuntu and load it)However,Login sound will still play and sound 
settings will change regardless of what you choose.
  I should add that,this happens only after a reboot or shutdown,boot again,and 
not when you logout and login again

  : "Sound volume should also be
  independent of which user — or whether any user — is logged in. This
  way, if you mute or turn down sound at the login screen, you will not
  be surprised or frustrated by sound playing loudly after you log in."

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[Desktop-packages] [Bug 840777] Re: Muting sound indicator in Unity Greeter does not mute sound on login

[Matthew Paul Thomas]

** Description changed:

  I am using beta edition of Ubuntu 11.10,with lightdm 0.9.3-0ubuntu8,and unity 
4.12.0-0ubuntu2,
  There is a new feature in Display Manager(well,I didn't notice it in gdm,but 
it might have been there as well),That you can mute the sound so that login 
sound wont play(This option exists in the top of the lightdm login page,when 
you turn on ubuntu and load it)However,Login sound will still play and sound 
settings will change regardless of what you choose.
  I should add that,this happens only after a reboot or shutdown,boot again,and 
not when you logout and login again
  
- Desired solution:
- - Any changes made to the volume control in the Unity Greeter should carry 
through to the logged in session and vice versa.  
- - For example, if a user changes or mutes the volume in the Unity Greeter, 
when they are logged in to their session this value should be carried over
- - The other way around is also true, if a user changes or mutes the volume in 
their session, when they log out this value should be displayed in the greeter.
- - Sound settings are stored individually on a per user account basis.  The 
sound settings displayed in the greeter should change in line with the 
currently focused user account.  So for example User A is currently focused and 
has has volume at 100%. If the focus in the greeter is changed to User B (who 
has volume muted), the sound indicator should change to display the muted state.
+ : "Sound volume should also be
+ independent of which user — or whether any user — is logged in. This
+ way, if you mute or turn down sound at the login screen, you will not be
+ surprised or frustrated by sound playing loudly after you log in."

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Title:
  Muting sound indicator in Unity Greeter does not mute sound on login

Status in Ayatana Design:
  Fix Committed
Status in The Sound Menu:
  Invalid
Status in Unity Greeter:
  Invalid
Status in gsettings-ubuntu-touch-schemas package in Ubuntu:
  Fix Released
Status in indicator-sound package in Ubuntu:
  Fix Released
Status in pulseaudio package in Ubuntu:
  Triaged

Bug description:
  I am using beta edition of Ubuntu 11.10,with lightdm 0.9.3-0ubuntu8,and unity 
4.12.0-0ubuntu2,
  There is a new feature in Display Manager(well,I didn't notice it in gdm,but 
it might have been there as well),That you can mute the sound so that login 
sound wont play(This option exists in the top of the lightdm login page,when 
you turn on ubuntu and load it)However,Login sound will still play and sound 
settings will change regardless of what you choose.
  I should add that,this happens only after a reboot or shutdown,boot again,and 
not when you logout and login again

  : "Sound volume should also be
  independent of which user — or whether any user — is logged in. This
  way, if you mute or turn down sound at the login screen, you will not
  be surprised or frustrated by sound playing loudly after you log in."

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[Desktop-packages] [Bug 840777] Re: Muting sound indicator in Unity Greeter does not mute sound on login

[Adolfo Jayme]

** No longer affects: pulseaudio (Ubuntu Raring)

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Title:
  Muting sound indicator in Unity Greeter does not mute sound on login

Status in Ayatana Design:
  Fix Committed
Status in Sound Menu:
  Invalid
Status in Unity Greeter:
  Invalid
Status in “gsettings-ubuntu-touch-schemas” package in Ubuntu:
  Fix Released
Status in “indicator-sound” package in Ubuntu:
  Fix Released
Status in “pulseaudio” package in Ubuntu:
  Triaged

Bug description:
  I am using beta edition of Ubuntu 11.10,with lightdm 0.9.3-0ubuntu8,and unity 
4.12.0-0ubuntu2,
  There is a new feature in Display Manager(well,I didn't notice it in gdm,but 
it might have been there as well),That you can mute the sound so that login 
sound wont play(This option exists in the top of the lightdm login page,when 
you turn on ubuntu and load it)However,Login sound will still play and sound 
settings will change regardless of what you choose.
  I should add that,this happens only after a reboot or shutdown,boot again,and 
not when you logout and login again

  Desired solution:
  - Any changes made to the volume control in the Unity Greeter should carry 
through to the logged in session and vice versa.  
  - For example, if a user changes or mutes the volume in the Unity Greeter, 
when they are logged in to their session this value should be carried over
  - The other way around is also true, if a user changes or mutes the volume in 
their session, when they log out this value should be displayed in the greeter.
  - Sound settings are stored individually on a per user account basis.  The 
sound settings displayed in the greeter should change in line with the 
currently focused user account.  So for example User A is currently focused and 
has has volume at 100%. If the focus in the greeter is changed to User B (who 
has volume muted), the sound indicator should change to display the muted state.

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[Desktop-packages] [Bug 840777] Re: Muting sound indicator in Unity Greeter does not mute sound on login

[Launchpad Bug Tracker]

This bug was fixed in the package gsettings-ubuntu-touch-schemas -
0.0.1+14.04.20140401-0ubuntu1

---
gsettings-ubuntu-touch-schemas (0.0.1+14.04.20140401-0ubuntu1) trusty; 
urgency=low

  [ Michael Terry ]
  * Add Muted and Volume properties for sharing with the greeter. (LP:
#840777)

  [ Ubuntu daily release ]
  * New rebuild forced
 -- Ubuntu daily release ps-jenk...@lists.canonical.com   Tue, 01 Apr 2014 
23:16:43 +

** Changed in: gsettings-ubuntu-touch-schemas (Ubuntu)
   Status: New = Fix Released

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Title:
  Muting sound indicator in Unity Greeter does not mute sound on login

Status in Ayatana Design:
  Fix Committed
Status in Sound Menu:
  Invalid
Status in Unity Greeter:
  Invalid
Status in “gsettings-ubuntu-touch-schemas” package in Ubuntu:
  Fix Released
Status in “indicator-sound” package in Ubuntu:
  Fix Released
Status in “pulseaudio” package in Ubuntu:
  Triaged
Status in “pulseaudio” source package in Raring:
  New

Bug description:
  I am using beta edition of Ubuntu 11.10,with lightdm 0.9.3-0ubuntu8,and unity 
4.12.0-0ubuntu2,
  There is a new feature in Display Manager(well,I didn't notice it in gdm,but 
it might have been there as well),That you can mute the sound so that login 
sound wont play(This option exists in the top of the lightdm login page,when 
you turn on ubuntu and load it)However,Login sound will still play and sound 
settings will change regardless of what you choose.
  I should add that,this happens only after a reboot or shutdown,boot again,and 
not when you logout and login again

  Desired solution:
  - Any changes made to the volume control in the Unity Greeter should carry 
through to the logged in session and vice versa.  
  - For example, if a user changes or mutes the volume in the Unity Greeter, 
when they are logged in to their session this value should be carried over
  - The other way around is also true, if a user changes or mutes the volume in 
their session, when they log out this value should be displayed in the greeter.
  - Sound settings are stored individually on a per user account basis.  The 
sound settings displayed in the greeter should change in line with the 
currently focused user account.  So for example User A is currently focused and 
has has volume at 100%. If the focus in the greeter is changed to User B (who 
has volume muted), the sound indicator should change to display the muted state.

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[Desktop-packages] [Bug 840777] Re: Muting sound indicator in Unity Greeter does not mute sound on login

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** Branch linked: lp:ubuntu/trusty-proposed/indicator-sound

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Title:
  Muting sound indicator in Unity Greeter does not mute sound on login

Status in Ayatana Design:
  Fix Committed
Status in Sound Menu:
  Invalid
Status in Unity Greeter:
  Invalid
Status in “gsettings-ubuntu-touch-schemas” package in Ubuntu:
  New
Status in “indicator-sound” package in Ubuntu:
  Fix Released
Status in “pulseaudio” package in Ubuntu:
  Triaged
Status in “pulseaudio” source package in Raring:
  New

Bug description:
  I am using beta edition of Ubuntu 11.10,with lightdm 0.9.3-0ubuntu8,and unity 
4.12.0-0ubuntu2,
  There is a new feature in Display Manager(well,I didn't notice it in gdm,but 
it might have been there as well),That you can mute the sound so that login 
sound wont play(This option exists in the top of the lightdm login page,when 
you turn on ubuntu and load it)However,Login sound will still play and sound 
settings will change regardless of what you choose.
  I should add that,this happens only after a reboot or shutdown,boot again,and 
not when you logout and login again

  Desired solution:
  - Any changes made to the volume control in the Unity Greeter should carry 
through to the logged in session and vice versa.  
  - For example, if a user changes or mutes the volume in the Unity Greeter, 
when they are logged in to their session this value should be carried over
  - The other way around is also true, if a user changes or mutes the volume in 
their session, when they log out this value should be displayed in the greeter.
  - Sound settings are stored individually on a per user account basis.  The 
sound settings displayed in the greeter should change in line with the 
currently focused user account.  So for example User A is currently focused and 
has has volume at 100%. If the focus in the greeter is changed to User B (who 
has volume muted), the sound indicator should change to display the muted state.

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[Desktop-packages] [Bug 840777] Re: Muting sound indicator in Unity Greeter does not mute sound on login

[Launchpad Bug Tracker]

This bug was fixed in the package indicator-sound -
12.10.2+14.04.20140324-0ubuntu1

---
indicator-sound (12.10.2+14.04.20140324-0ubuntu1) trusty; urgency=low

  [ Michael Terry ]
  * Sync volume and mute settings with AccountsService. (LP: #840777)

  [ Ted Gould ]
  * Add an apport hook for debugging
  * Synchronize process management across indicators
  * Export currently running player to Accounts Service
  * Create players on the phone greeter based on the accounts service
data
  * Allow the phone greeter player to control the running player in the
session.
 -- Ubuntu daily release ps-jenk...@lists.canonical.com   Mon, 24 Mar 2014 
15:03:16 +

** Changed in: indicator-sound (Ubuntu)
   Status: New = Fix Released

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Title:
  Muting sound indicator in Unity Greeter does not mute sound on login

Status in Ayatana Design:
  Fix Committed
Status in Sound Menu:
  Invalid
Status in Unity Greeter:
  Invalid
Status in “gsettings-ubuntu-touch-schemas” package in Ubuntu:
  New
Status in “indicator-sound” package in Ubuntu:
  Fix Released
Status in “pulseaudio” package in Ubuntu:
  Triaged
Status in “pulseaudio” source package in Raring:
  New

Bug description:
  I am using beta edition of Ubuntu 11.10,with lightdm 0.9.3-0ubuntu8,and unity 
4.12.0-0ubuntu2,
  There is a new feature in Display Manager(well,I didn't notice it in gdm,but 
it might have been there as well),That you can mute the sound so that login 
sound wont play(This option exists in the top of the lightdm login page,when 
you turn on ubuntu and load it)However,Login sound will still play and sound 
settings will change regardless of what you choose.
  I should add that,this happens only after a reboot or shutdown,boot again,and 
not when you logout and login again

  Desired solution:
  - Any changes made to the volume control in the Unity Greeter should carry 
through to the logged in session and vice versa.  
  - For example, if a user changes or mutes the volume in the Unity Greeter, 
when they are logged in to their session this value should be carried over
  - The other way around is also true, if a user changes or mutes the volume in 
their session, when they log out this value should be displayed in the greeter.
  - Sound settings are stored individually on a per user account basis.  The 
sound settings displayed in the greeter should change in line with the 
currently focused user account.  So for example User A is currently focused and 
has has volume at 100%. If the focus in the greeter is changed to User B (who 
has volume muted), the sound indicator should change to display the muted state.

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[Desktop-packages] [Bug 840777] Re: Muting sound indicator in Unity Greeter does not mute sound on login

[Matthew Paul Thomas]

 But honestly with both methods, we have a11y issues with shared
machines

Sure, but it's much less with system-wide volume: all a blind user needs
to remember is roughly how long the machine takes to start up. Then if
they haven't heard the drumbeat, they can adjust the volume, and that
volume will actually work for the screen reader.

 does this mean that the primary sound *input* should be handled
differently than the primary sound *output* ?

No, it's just that primary sound input isn't yet specified in the way
primary sound output is.

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Title:
  Muting sound indicator in Unity Greeter does not mute sound on login

Status in Ayatana Design:
  Fix Committed
Status in Sound Menu:
  Invalid
Status in Unity Greeter:
  Invalid
Status in “pulseaudio” package in Ubuntu:
  Triaged
Status in “pulseaudio” source package in Raring:
  New

Bug description:
  I am using beta edition of Ubuntu 11.10,with lightdm 0.9.3-0ubuntu8,and unity 
4.12.0-0ubuntu2,
  There is a new feature in Display Manager(well,I didn't notice it in gdm,but 
it might have been there as well),That you can mute the sound so that login 
sound wont play(This option exists in the top of the lightdm login page,when 
you turn on ubuntu and load it)However,Login sound will still play and sound 
settings will change regardless of what you choose.
  I should add that,this happens only after a reboot or shutdown,boot again,and 
not when you logout and login again

  Desired solution:
  - Any changes made to the volume control in the Unity Greeter should carry 
through to the logged in session and vice versa.  
  - For example, if a user changes or mutes the volume in the Unity Greeter, 
when they are logged in to their session this value should be carried over
  - The other way around is also true, if a user changes or mutes the volume in 
their session, when they log out this value should be displayed in the greeter.
  - Sound settings are stored individually on a per user account basis.  The 
sound settings displayed in the greeter should change in line with the 
currently focused user account.  So for example User A is currently focused and 
has has volume at 100%. If the focus in the greeter is changed to User B (who 
has volume muted), the sound indicator should change to display the muted state.

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[Desktop-packages] [Bug 840777] Re: Muting sound indicator in Unity Greeter does not mute sound on login

[Matthew Paul Thomas]

 - B sits down, switches to their account, greeter switches sound to
muted status

Ah, that's the part I missed. Does that mean if you're using a
screenreader and scrolling through the list of accounts, every user
account name will be read out at a different volume, regardless of the
volume you set at the greeter? Or does it mean that the volume you see
in the sound indicator at the greeter will not, in fact, be the volume
currently in effect at the greeter? The former would be an accessibility
problem, and the latter would be misleading.

 Matthew, you describe wanting volume/mute to be system wide. I'm
guessing you would like to make SilentMode that way too? (harder
technically, but seems semantically related to mute)

Absolutely. On some devices, Silent Mode may be toggled by a hardware
switch (as it is on iPhones and iPads, for example), so that you can set
it even when the device is locked and/or in your pocket or bag. But I
highly doubt any device would include the ability for software to move
that hardware switch itself!

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Title:
  Muting sound indicator in Unity Greeter does not mute sound on login

Status in Ayatana Design:
  Fix Committed
Status in Sound Menu:
  Invalid
Status in Unity Greeter:
  Invalid
Status in “pulseaudio” package in Ubuntu:
  Triaged
Status in “pulseaudio” source package in Raring:
  New

Bug description:
  I am using beta edition of Ubuntu 11.10,with lightdm 0.9.3-0ubuntu8,and unity 
4.12.0-0ubuntu2,
  There is a new feature in Display Manager(well,I didn't notice it in gdm,but 
it might have been there as well),That you can mute the sound so that login 
sound wont play(This option exists in the top of the lightdm login page,when 
you turn on ubuntu and load it)However,Login sound will still play and sound 
settings will change regardless of what you choose.
  I should add that,this happens only after a reboot or shutdown,boot again,and 
not when you logout and login again

  Desired solution:
  - Any changes made to the volume control in the Unity Greeter should carry 
through to the logged in session and vice versa.  
  - For example, if a user changes or mutes the volume in the Unity Greeter, 
when they are logged in to their session this value should be carried over
  - The other way around is also true, if a user changes or mutes the volume in 
their session, when they log out this value should be displayed in the greeter.
  - Sound settings are stored individually on a per user account basis.  The 
sound settings displayed in the greeter should change in line with the 
currently focused user account.  So for example User A is currently focused and 
has has volume at 100%. If the focus in the greeter is changed to User B (who 
has volume muted), the sound indicator should change to display the muted state.

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[Desktop-packages] [Bug 840777] Re: Muting sound indicator in Unity Greeter does not mute sound on login

[Michael Terry]

 Does that mean if you're using a screenreader and scrolling through
the list of accounts, every user account name will be read out at a
different volume, regardless of the volume you set at the greeter?

Yes, and it is an a11y issue.  I mentioned this problem in the email
thread, but that thread didn't go anywhere.

But honestly with both methods, we have a11y issues with shared machines
(user B will always be able to mute sound and turn off machine, meaning
that blind user A will not hear it boot up).  So we'd need something
else to cater to that case.

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Title:
  Muting sound indicator in Unity Greeter does not mute sound on login

Status in Ayatana Design:
  Fix Committed
Status in Sound Menu:
  Invalid
Status in Unity Greeter:
  Invalid
Status in “pulseaudio” package in Ubuntu:
  Triaged
Status in “pulseaudio” source package in Raring:
  New

Bug description:
  I am using beta edition of Ubuntu 11.10,with lightdm 0.9.3-0ubuntu8,and unity 
4.12.0-0ubuntu2,
  There is a new feature in Display Manager(well,I didn't notice it in gdm,but 
it might have been there as well),That you can mute the sound so that login 
sound wont play(This option exists in the top of the lightdm login page,when 
you turn on ubuntu and load it)However,Login sound will still play and sound 
settings will change regardless of what you choose.
  I should add that,this happens only after a reboot or shutdown,boot again,and 
not when you logout and login again

  Desired solution:
  - Any changes made to the volume control in the Unity Greeter should carry 
through to the logged in session and vice versa.  
  - For example, if a user changes or mutes the volume in the Unity Greeter, 
when they are logged in to their session this value should be carried over
  - The other way around is also true, if a user changes or mutes the volume in 
their session, when they log out this value should be displayed in the greeter.
  - Sound settings are stored individually on a per user account basis.  The 
sound settings displayed in the greeter should change in line with the 
currently focused user account.  So for example User A is currently focused and 
has has volume at 100%. If the focus in the greeter is changed to User B (who 
has volume muted), the sound indicator should change to display the muted state.

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[Desktop-packages] [Bug 840777] Re: Muting sound indicator in Unity Greeter does not mute sound on login

[David Henningsson]

 Sound volume, and the primary sound output, should be global settings.
Other settings should be specific to individual user accounts.

Assuming other settings mean all other sound related settings, does
this mean that the primary sound *input* should be handled differently
than the primary sound *output* ?

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Title:
  Muting sound indicator in Unity Greeter does not mute sound on login

Status in Ayatana Design:
  Fix Committed
Status in Sound Menu:
  Invalid
Status in Unity Greeter:
  Invalid
Status in “pulseaudio” package in Ubuntu:
  Triaged
Status in “pulseaudio” source package in Raring:
  New

Bug description:
  I am using beta edition of Ubuntu 11.10,with lightdm 0.9.3-0ubuntu8,and unity 
4.12.0-0ubuntu2,
  There is a new feature in Display Manager(well,I didn't notice it in gdm,but 
it might have been there as well),That you can mute the sound so that login 
sound wont play(This option exists in the top of the lightdm login page,when 
you turn on ubuntu and load it)However,Login sound will still play and sound 
settings will change regardless of what you choose.
  I should add that,this happens only after a reboot or shutdown,boot again,and 
not when you logout and login again

  Desired solution:
  - Any changes made to the volume control in the Unity Greeter should carry 
through to the logged in session and vice versa.  
  - For example, if a user changes or mutes the volume in the Unity Greeter, 
when they are logged in to their session this value should be carried over
  - The other way around is also true, if a user changes or mutes the volume in 
their session, when they log out this value should be displayed in the greeter.
  - Sound settings are stored individually on a per user account basis.  The 
sound settings displayed in the greeter should change in line with the 
currently focused user account.  So for example User A is currently focused and 
has has volume at 100%. If the focus in the greeter is changed to User B (who 
has volume muted), the sound indicator should change to display the muted state.

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[Desktop-packages] [Bug 840777] Re: Muting sound indicator in Unity Greeter does not mute sound on login

[Matthew Paul Thomas]

Unfortunately the Desired solution here seems to contradict itself.

I agree with Lars and John that volume should be system-wide: changes
made to the volume control in the Unity Greeter should carry through to
the logged in session and vice versa. That's unfortunate if one of your
family is hard of hearing and the rest are not: you'll often be changing
the volume when switching users, same as you have to with a shared TV or
radio. But the alternative would be more common and worse: you'd mute
sound in the session, only for startup or login screen sounds to wake
everyone or scare the cat. And while on a PC it might be just annoying,
on a phone it would seem especially silly to have one volume setting for
the lock screen and one volume setting for everything else.

But apply that to the example given. User B logs in, mutes the sound,
and locks or logs out; the login screen now has muted sound too. User A
logs in, sets the volume to 100%, and locks or logs out; the login
screen now has volume 100% too. User B returns and selects themselves in
the login screen. What, then, would be the point of the sound indicator
[changing] to display the muted state? After all, when B finishes
logging in, they'll have volume of 100%!

I've updated the spec to define volume and sound output as global
settings. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Sound?action=diffrev2=104rev1=103

** Changed in: pulseaudio (Ubuntu)
   Status: New = Triaged

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Title:
  Muting sound indicator in Unity Greeter does not mute sound on login

Status in Ayatana Design:
  Fix Committed
Status in Sound Menu:
  Invalid
Status in Unity Greeter:
  Invalid
Status in “pulseaudio” package in Ubuntu:
  Triaged
Status in “pulseaudio” source package in Raring:
  New

Bug description:
  I am using beta edition of Ubuntu 11.10,with lightdm 0.9.3-0ubuntu8,and unity 
4.12.0-0ubuntu2,
  There is a new feature in Display Manager(well,I didn't notice it in gdm,but 
it might have been there as well),That you can mute the sound so that login 
sound wont play(This option exists in the top of the lightdm login page,when 
you turn on ubuntu and load it)However,Login sound will still play and sound 
settings will change regardless of what you choose.
  I should add that,this happens only after a reboot or shutdown,boot again,and 
not when you logout and login again

  Desired solution:
  - Any changes made to the volume control in the Unity Greeter should carry 
through to the logged in session and vice versa.  
  - For example, if a user changes or mutes the volume in the Unity Greeter, 
when they are logged in to their session this value should be carried over
  - The other way around is also true, if a user changes or mutes the volume in 
their session, when they log out this value should be displayed in the greeter.
  - Sound settings are stored individually on a per user account basis.  The 
sound settings displayed in the greeter should change in line with the 
currently focused user account.  So for example User A is currently focused and 
has has volume at 100%. If the focus in the greeter is changed to User B (who 
has volume muted), the sound indicator should change to display the muted state.

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[Desktop-packages] [Bug 840777] Re: Muting sound indicator in Unity Greeter does not mute sound on login

[Michael Terry]

mpt, I think there's some confusion.  Lars and you want a system-wide
volume.  John wants a per-user volume (i.e. like we have today, just
with the greeter reflecting the user's volume).

With per-user volume, in your example when B logs in, B will have a
muted sound.  That's the point of changing the greeter volume when B is
selected.

I have implemented this in the attached branch inside indicator-sound
(it uses AccountsService to synchronize user volume like we do for other
settings -- keyboard layout, preferred desktop session, etc).

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Title:
  Muting sound indicator in Unity Greeter does not mute sound on login

Status in Ayatana Design:
  Fix Committed
Status in Sound Menu:
  Invalid
Status in Unity Greeter:
  Invalid
Status in “pulseaudio” package in Ubuntu:
  Triaged
Status in “pulseaudio” source package in Raring:
  New

Bug description:
  I am using beta edition of Ubuntu 11.10,with lightdm 0.9.3-0ubuntu8,and unity 
4.12.0-0ubuntu2,
  There is a new feature in Display Manager(well,I didn't notice it in gdm,but 
it might have been there as well),That you can mute the sound so that login 
sound wont play(This option exists in the top of the lightdm login page,when 
you turn on ubuntu and load it)However,Login sound will still play and sound 
settings will change regardless of what you choose.
  I should add that,this happens only after a reboot or shutdown,boot again,and 
not when you logout and login again

  Desired solution:
  - Any changes made to the volume control in the Unity Greeter should carry 
through to the logged in session and vice versa.  
  - For example, if a user changes or mutes the volume in the Unity Greeter, 
when they are logged in to their session this value should be carried over
  - The other way around is also true, if a user changes or mutes the volume in 
their session, when they log out this value should be displayed in the greeter.
  - Sound settings are stored individually on a per user account basis.  The 
sound settings displayed in the greeter should change in line with the 
currently focused user account.  So for example User A is currently focused and 
has has volume at 100%. If the focus in the greeter is changed to User B (who 
has volume muted), the sound indicator should change to display the muted state.

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[Desktop-packages] [Bug 840777] Re: Muting sound indicator in Unity Greeter does not mute sound on login

[Matthew Paul Thomas]

I just discussed this with John. He explained that the motivation for
making it per-user was to avoid the problem where some settings are per-
user and some are system-wide, and users can't predict which is which.

Now, consider the case where you don't log in at all. You turn on your
PC, and at the login screen, the drumbeat sounds much too loud. You
wince and turn down the volume. Your parents, hearing you fiddling with
the computer, call you away to do something else, so you shut down
without logging in. When you start up your PC the next day, what should
the volume of the drumbeat sound be? The volume you set previously, of
course.

This illustrates that Ubuntu needs a system-level volume setting,
regardless of whether there is *also* a per-user volume setting. Even if
that wasn't true for volume (for example, if we had no drumbeat at the
login screen), it would be true for brightness, keyboard layout, and a
host of accessibility options that apply to the login screen.

Now, in many cases a device has only one user account. That's often the
case with a laptop, usually the case with a tablet, and almost always
the case with a phone. When there is, it would be annoying to have to
set each of those settings twice, once for the login screen and once for
everywhere else. That's the reasoning behind settings propagating from
the login screen to the user session and vice versa.

The point I tried to make is that I don't see any functional difference
between that and just having a system-wide volume setting. When B logs
in, does the sound volume get propagated from the login screen to B's
session, or doesn't it? If it does propagate, then there's no point in
momentarily showing B as having a volume that they won't actually have.
And if it doesn't propagate, then how do you avoid the annoyance of
having to set the volume twice when B's account is the only one?

You could make settings propagate if there is one user account, and not
if there's more than one. But that would mean different behavior on
different Ubuntu installations. It would introduce unpredictability,
exactly the problem that user-specific settings were intended to solve
in the first place.

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Title:
  Muting sound indicator in Unity Greeter does not mute sound on login

Status in Ayatana Design:
  Fix Committed
Status in Sound Menu:
  Invalid
Status in Unity Greeter:
  Invalid
Status in “pulseaudio” package in Ubuntu:
  Triaged
Status in “pulseaudio” source package in Raring:
  New

Bug description:
  I am using beta edition of Ubuntu 11.10,with lightdm 0.9.3-0ubuntu8,and unity 
4.12.0-0ubuntu2,
  There is a new feature in Display Manager(well,I didn't notice it in gdm,but 
it might have been there as well),That you can mute the sound so that login 
sound wont play(This option exists in the top of the lightdm login page,when 
you turn on ubuntu and load it)However,Login sound will still play and sound 
settings will change regardless of what you choose.
  I should add that,this happens only after a reboot or shutdown,boot again,and 
not when you logout and login again

  Desired solution:
  - Any changes made to the volume control in the Unity Greeter should carry 
through to the logged in session and vice versa.  
  - For example, if a user changes or mutes the volume in the Unity Greeter, 
when they are logged in to their session this value should be carried over
  - The other way around is also true, if a user changes or mutes the volume in 
their session, when they log out this value should be displayed in the greeter.
  - Sound settings are stored individually on a per user account basis.  The 
sound settings displayed in the greeter should change in line with the 
currently focused user account.  So for example User A is currently focused and 
has has volume at 100%. If the focus in the greeter is changed to User B (who 
has volume muted), the sound indicator should change to display the muted state.

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[Desktop-packages] [Bug 840777] Re: Muting sound indicator in Unity Greeter does not mute sound on login

[Michael Terry]

** Branch linked: lp:~mterry/gsettings-ubuntu-touch-schemas/volume

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Title:
  Muting sound indicator in Unity Greeter does not mute sound on login

Status in Ayatana Design:
  Fix Committed
Status in Sound Menu:
  Invalid
Status in Unity Greeter:
  Invalid
Status in “pulseaudio” package in Ubuntu:
  Triaged
Status in “pulseaudio” source package in Raring:
  New

Bug description:
  I am using beta edition of Ubuntu 11.10,with lightdm 0.9.3-0ubuntu8,and unity 
4.12.0-0ubuntu2,
  There is a new feature in Display Manager(well,I didn't notice it in gdm,but 
it might have been there as well),That you can mute the sound so that login 
sound wont play(This option exists in the top of the lightdm login page,when 
you turn on ubuntu and load it)However,Login sound will still play and sound 
settings will change regardless of what you choose.
  I should add that,this happens only after a reboot or shutdown,boot again,and 
not when you logout and login again

  Desired solution:
  - Any changes made to the volume control in the Unity Greeter should carry 
through to the logged in session and vice versa.  
  - For example, if a user changes or mutes the volume in the Unity Greeter, 
when they are logged in to their session this value should be carried over
  - The other way around is also true, if a user changes or mutes the volume in 
their session, when they log out this value should be displayed in the greeter.
  - Sound settings are stored individually on a per user account basis.  The 
sound settings displayed in the greeter should change in line with the 
currently focused user account.  So for example User A is currently focused and 
has has volume at 100%. If the focus in the greeter is changed to User B (who 
has volume muted), the sound indicator should change to display the muted state.

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[Desktop-packages] [Bug 840777] Re: Muting sound indicator in Unity Greeter does not mute sound on login

[Michael Terry]

I hear you, mpt.  Startup sounds (drums / orca) are interesting
problems, particularly if a11y is involved.  You almost want an a11y
setting that says on startup, always use X volume.

I still don't understand your A/B scenario problem.  Using the behavior from 
the bug description (and my branches), the following will happen:
- A logs out with volume at 100%, greeter shows volume at 100%
- B sits down, switches to their account, greeter switches sound to muted status
- B logs in, gets muted session

You say you talked to John about this, but don't mention if there was a
consensus reached.  The design plan of record is what I described above
and this bug description outline.  I don't have a dog in this race, I
just want to fix this problem one way or the other.

Another point to mention here is SilentMode.  Matthew, you describe
wanting volume/mute to be system wide.  I'm guessing you would like to
make SilentMode that way too?  (harder technically, but seems
semantically related to mute)

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Title:
  Muting sound indicator in Unity Greeter does not mute sound on login

Status in Ayatana Design:
  Fix Committed
Status in Sound Menu:
  Invalid
Status in Unity Greeter:
  Invalid
Status in “pulseaudio” package in Ubuntu:
  Triaged
Status in “pulseaudio” source package in Raring:
  New

Bug description:
  I am using beta edition of Ubuntu 11.10,with lightdm 0.9.3-0ubuntu8,and unity 
4.12.0-0ubuntu2,
  There is a new feature in Display Manager(well,I didn't notice it in gdm,but 
it might have been there as well),That you can mute the sound so that login 
sound wont play(This option exists in the top of the lightdm login page,when 
you turn on ubuntu and load it)However,Login sound will still play and sound 
settings will change regardless of what you choose.
  I should add that,this happens only after a reboot or shutdown,boot again,and 
not when you logout and login again

  Desired solution:
  - Any changes made to the volume control in the Unity Greeter should carry 
through to the logged in session and vice versa.  
  - For example, if a user changes or mutes the volume in the Unity Greeter, 
when they are logged in to their session this value should be carried over
  - The other way around is also true, if a user changes or mutes the volume in 
their session, when they log out this value should be displayed in the greeter.
  - Sound settings are stored individually on a per user account basis.  The 
sound settings displayed in the greeter should change in line with the 
currently focused user account.  So for example User A is currently focused and 
has has volume at 100%. If the focus in the greeter is changed to User B (who 
has volume muted), the sound indicator should change to display the muted state.

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[Desktop-packages] [Bug 840777] Re: Muting sound indicator in Unity Greeter does not mute sound on login

[Michael Terry]

** Branch linked: lp:~mterry/indicator-sound/greeter-volume

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Title:
  Muting sound indicator in Unity Greeter does not mute sound on login

Status in Ayatana Design:
  Fix Committed
Status in Sound Menu:
  Invalid
Status in Unity Greeter:
  Invalid
Status in “pulseaudio” package in Ubuntu:
  New
Status in “pulseaudio” source package in Raring:
  New

Bug description:
  I am using beta edition of Ubuntu 11.10,with lightdm 0.9.3-0ubuntu8,and unity 
4.12.0-0ubuntu2,
  There is a new feature in Display Manager(well,I didn't notice it in gdm,but 
it might have been there as well),That you can mute the sound so that login 
sound wont play(This option exists in the top of the lightdm login page,when 
you turn on ubuntu and load it)However,Login sound will still play and sound 
settings will change regardless of what you choose.
  I should add that,this happens only after a reboot or shutdown,boot again,and 
not when you logout and login again

  Desired solution:
  - Any changes made to the volume control in the Unity Greeter should carry 
through to the logged in session and vice versa.  
  - For example, if a user changes or mutes the volume in the Unity Greeter, 
when they are logged in to their session this value should be carried over
  - The other way around is also true, if a user changes or mutes the volume in 
their session, when they log out this value should be displayed in the greeter.
  - Sound settings are stored individually on a per user account basis.  The 
sound settings displayed in the greeter should change in line with the 
currently focused user account.  So for example User A is currently focused and 
has has volume at 100%. If the focus in the greeter is changed to User B (who 
has volume muted), the sound indicator should change to display the muted state.

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[Desktop-packages] [Bug 840777] Re: Muting sound indicator in Unity Greeter does not mute sound on login

[John Lea]

** Changed in: ayatana-design
   Status: Incomplete = Fix Committed

** Changed in: ayatana-design
 Assignee: (unassigned) = John Lea (johnlea)

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Title:
  Muting sound indicator in Unity Greeter does not mute sound on login

Status in Ayatana Design:
  Fix Committed
Status in Sound Menu:
  Invalid
Status in Unity Greeter:
  Invalid
Status in “pulseaudio” package in Ubuntu:
  New
Status in “pulseaudio” source package in Raring:
  New

Bug description:
  I am using beta edition of Ubuntu 11.10,with lightdm 0.9.3-0ubuntu8,and unity 
4.12.0-0ubuntu2,
  There is a new feature in Display Manager(well,I didn't notice it in gdm,but 
it might have been there as well),That you can mute the sound so that login 
sound wont play(This option exists in the top of the lightdm login page,when 
you turn on ubuntu and load it)However,Login sound will still play and sound 
settings will change regardless of what you choose.
  I should add that,this happens only after a reboot or shutdown,boot again,and 
not when you logout and login again

  Desired solution:
  - Any changes made to the volume control in the Unity Greeter should carry 
through to the logged in session and vice versa.  
  - For example, if a user changes or mutes the volume in the Unity Greeter, 
when they are logged in to their session this value should be carried over
  - The other way around is also true, if a user changes or mutes the volume in 
their session, when they log out this value should be displayed in the greeter.
  - Sound settings are stored individually on a per user account basis.  The 
sound settings displayed in the greeter should change in line with the 
currently focused user account.  So for example User A is currently focused and 
has has volume at 100%. If the focus in the greeter is changed to User B (who 
has volume muted), the sound indicator should change to display the muted state.

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[Desktop-packages] [Bug 840777] Re: Muting sound indicator in Unity Greeter does not mute sound on login

[Michael Terry]

** Changed in: ayatana-design
 Assignee: Mika Meskanen (mika) = (unassigned)

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Title:
  Muting sound indicator in Unity Greeter does not mute sound on login

Status in Ayatana Design:
  Fix Committed
Status in Sound Menu:
  Invalid
Status in Unity Greeter:
  Invalid
Status in “pulseaudio” package in Ubuntu:
  New
Status in “pulseaudio” source package in Raring:
  New

Bug description:
  I am using beta edition of Ubuntu 11.10,with lightdm 0.9.3-0ubuntu8,and unity 
4.12.0-0ubuntu2,
  There is a new feature in Display Manager(well,I didn't notice it in gdm,but 
it might have been there as well),That you can mute the sound so that login 
sound wont play(This option exists in the top of the lightdm login page,when 
you turn on ubuntu and load it)However,Login sound will still play and sound 
settings will change regardless of what you choose.
  I should add that,this happens only after a reboot or shutdown,boot again,and 
not when you logout and login again

  Desired solution:
  - Any changes made to the volume control in the Unity Greeter should carry 
through to the logged in session and vice versa.  
  - For example, if a user changes or mutes the volume in the Unity Greeter, 
when they are logged in to their session this value should be carried over
  - The other way around is also true, if a user changes or mutes the volume in 
their session, when they log out this value should be displayed in the greeter.
  - Sound settings are stored individually on a per user account basis.  The 
sound settings displayed in the greeter should change in line with the 
currently focused user account.  So for example User A is currently focused and 
has has volume at 100%. If the focus in the greeter is changed to User B (who 
has volume muted), the sound indicator should change to display the muted state.

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[Desktop-packages] [Bug 840777] Re: Muting sound indicator in Unity Greeter does not mute sound on login

[Lars Uebernickel]

Volume is a system-wide setting. I think pulse should store the volume
somewhere outside of the user's session.

** Also affects: pulseaudio (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

** Changed in: unity-greeter
   Status: Triaged = Invalid

** Changed in: indicator-sound
   Status: Triaged = Invalid

** No longer affects: indicator-sound (Ubuntu)

** No longer affects: unity-greeter (Ubuntu)

** No longer affects: unity-greeter (Ubuntu Raring)

** No longer affects: indicator-sound (Ubuntu Raring)

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Title:
  Muting sound indicator in Unity Greeter does not mute sound on login

Status in Ayatana Design:
  Incomplete
Status in Sound Menu:
  Invalid
Status in Unity Greeter:
  Invalid
Status in “pulseaudio” package in Ubuntu:
  New
Status in “pulseaudio” source package in Raring:
  New

Bug description:
  I am using beta edition of Ubuntu 11.10,with lightdm 0.9.3-0ubuntu8,and unity 
4.12.0-0ubuntu2,
  There is a new feature in Display Manager(well,I didn't notice it in gdm,but 
it might have been there as well),That you can mute the sound so that login 
sound wont play(This option exists in the top of the lightdm login page,when 
you turn on ubuntu and load it)However,Login sound will still play and sound 
settings will change regardless of what you choose.
  I should add that,this happens only after a reboot or shutdown,boot again,and 
not when you logout and login again

  Desired solution:
  - Any changes made to the volume control in the Unity Greeter should carry 
through to the logged in session and vice versa.  
  - For example, if a user changes or mutes the volume in the Unity Greeter, 
when they are logged in to their session this value should be carried over
  - The other way around is also true, if a user changes or mutes the volume in 
their session, when they log out this value should be displayed in the greeter.
  - Sound settings are stored individually on a per user account basis.  The 
sound settings displayed in the greeter should change in line with the 
currently focused user account.  So for example User A is currently focused and 
has has volume at 100%. If the focus in the greeter is changed to User B (who 
has volume muted), the sound indicator should change to display the muted state.

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[Desktop-packages] [Bug 840777] Re: Muting sound indicator in Unity Greeter does not mute sound on login

[Michael Terry]

Marking Won't Fix for raring, as I likely won't be able to get to this
and don't have all the details from Design yet (getting this off my
status radar).  Otherwise, hopefully we can get to it in S.

** Also affects: indicator-sound (Ubuntu Raring)
   Importance: Medium
 Assignee: Indicator Applet Developers (indicator-applet-developers)
   Status: Incomplete

** Also affects: unity-greeter (Ubuntu Raring)
   Importance: Medium
   Status: Incomplete

** Changed in: unity-greeter (Ubuntu Raring)
   Status: Incomplete = Won't Fix

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Title:
  Muting sound indicator in Unity Greeter does not mute sound on login

Status in Ayatana Design:
  Incomplete
Status in Sound Menu:
  Triaged
Status in Unity Greeter:
  Triaged
Status in “indicator-sound” package in Ubuntu:
  Incomplete
Status in “unity-greeter” package in Ubuntu:
  Incomplete
Status in “indicator-sound” source package in Raring:
  Incomplete
Status in “unity-greeter” source package in Raring:
  Won't Fix

Bug description:
  I am using beta edition of Ubuntu 11.10,with lightdm 0.9.3-0ubuntu8,and unity 
4.12.0-0ubuntu2,
  There is a new feature in Display Manager(well,I didn't notice it in gdm,but 
it might have been there as well),That you can mute the sound so that login 
sound wont play(This option exists in the top of the lightdm login page,when 
you turn on ubuntu and load it)However,Login sound will still play and sound 
settings will change regardless of what you choose.
  I should add that,this happens only after a reboot or shutdown,boot again,and 
not when you logout and login again

  Desired solution:
  - Any changes made to the volume control in the Unity Greeter should carry 
through to the logged in session and vice versa.  
  - For example, if a user changes or mutes the volume in the Unity Greeter, 
when they are logged in to their session this value should be carried over
  - The other way around is also true, if a user changes or mutes the volume in 
their session, when they log out this value should be displayed in the greeter.
  - Sound settings are stored individually on a per user account basis.  The 
sound settings displayed in the greeter should change in line with the 
currently focused user account.  So for example User A is currently focused and 
has has volume at 100%. If the focus in the greeter is changed to User B (who 
has volume muted), the sound indicator should change to display the muted state.

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[Desktop-packages] [Bug 840777] Re: Muting sound indicator in Unity Greeter does not mute sound on login

[Michael Terry]

Assigning ~indicator-applet-developers in place of Conor.  This would
probably make sense to go in accountsservice as an extra field.

** Changed in: indicator-sound (Ubuntu)
 Assignee: (unassigned) = Indicator Applet Developers 
(indicator-applet-developers)

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Title:
  Muting sound indicator in Unity Greeter does not mute sound on login

Status in Ayatana Design:
  Fix Committed
Status in Sound Menu:
  Triaged
Status in Unity Greeter:
  Triaged
Status in “indicator-sound” package in Ubuntu:
  Triaged
Status in “unity-greeter” package in Ubuntu:
  Triaged

Bug description:
  I am using beta edition of Ubuntu 11.10,with lightdm 0.9.3-0ubuntu8,and unity 
4.12.0-0ubuntu2,
  There is a new feature in Display Manager(well,I didn't notice it in gdm,but 
it might have been there as well),That you can mute the sound so that login 
sound wont play(This option exists in the top of the lightdm login page,when 
you turn on ubuntu and load it)However,Login sound will still play and sound 
settings will change regardless of what you choose.
  I should add that,this happens only after a reboot or shutdown,boot again,and 
not when you logout and login again

  Desired solution:
  - Any changes made to the volume control in the Unity Greeter should carry 
through to the logged in session and vice versa.  
  - For example, if a user changes or mutes the volume in the Unity Greeter, 
when they are logged in to their session this value should be carried over
  - The other way around is also true, if a user changes or mutes the volume in 
their session, when they log out this value should be displayed in the greeter.
  - Sound settings are stored individually on a per user account basis.  The 
sound settings displayed in the greeter should change in line with the 
currently focused user account.  So for example User A is currently focused and 
has has volume at 100%. If the focus in the greeter is changed to User B (who 
has volume muted), the sound indicator should change to display the muted state.

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[Desktop-packages] [Bug 840777] Re: Muting sound indicator in Unity Greeter does not mute sound on login

[Michael Terry]

I'm a little uncomfortable with this whole idea though.  What are the
sounds played by the greeter?

* greeter is ready sound
* orca speech

Anything else?

It strikes me as odd that those sounds would be muted if the last user
that happened to log in had their sound muted at logout time.  Why would
you want that level of sound-carry-over?  What's the use-case?

John Lea, you marked the Ayatana task as Fix Committed without comment.
I don't mean to override you, but can I get a bit more specifics from
the Design team before implementing this?

** Changed in: ayatana-design
   Status: Fix Committed = Incomplete

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Title:
  Muting sound indicator in Unity Greeter does not mute sound on login

Status in Ayatana Design:
  Incomplete
Status in Sound Menu:
  Triaged
Status in Unity Greeter:
  Triaged
Status in “indicator-sound” package in Ubuntu:
  Triaged
Status in “unity-greeter” package in Ubuntu:
  Triaged

Bug description:
  I am using beta edition of Ubuntu 11.10,with lightdm 0.9.3-0ubuntu8,and unity 
4.12.0-0ubuntu2,
  There is a new feature in Display Manager(well,I didn't notice it in gdm,but 
it might have been there as well),That you can mute the sound so that login 
sound wont play(This option exists in the top of the lightdm login page,when 
you turn on ubuntu and load it)However,Login sound will still play and sound 
settings will change regardless of what you choose.
  I should add that,this happens only after a reboot or shutdown,boot again,and 
not when you logout and login again

  Desired solution:
  - Any changes made to the volume control in the Unity Greeter should carry 
through to the logged in session and vice versa.  
  - For example, if a user changes or mutes the volume in the Unity Greeter, 
when they are logged in to their session this value should be carried over
  - The other way around is also true, if a user changes or mutes the volume in 
their session, when they log out this value should be displayed in the greeter.
  - Sound settings are stored individually on a per user account basis.  The 
sound settings displayed in the greeter should change in line with the 
currently focused user account.  So for example User A is currently focused and 
has has volume at 100%. If the focus in the greeter is changed to User B (who 
has volume muted), the sound indicator should change to display the muted state.

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[Desktop-packages] [Bug 840777] Re: Muting sound indicator in Unity Greeter does not mute sound on login

[Michael Terry]

(I realize that the sounds would be unmuted once you switched the
selected user, but both those sounds are most useful on startup -- login
lets you know the greeter is ready, orca tells you where you are.)

Another Design question:  What would the volume be for non-user greeter
entries like Other or Remote Login?

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Title:
  Muting sound indicator in Unity Greeter does not mute sound on login

Status in Ayatana Design:
  Incomplete
Status in Sound Menu:
  Triaged
Status in Unity Greeter:
  Triaged
Status in “indicator-sound” package in Ubuntu:
  Triaged
Status in “unity-greeter” package in Ubuntu:
  Triaged

Bug description:
  I am using beta edition of Ubuntu 11.10,with lightdm 0.9.3-0ubuntu8,and unity 
4.12.0-0ubuntu2,
  There is a new feature in Display Manager(well,I didn't notice it in gdm,but 
it might have been there as well),That you can mute the sound so that login 
sound wont play(This option exists in the top of the lightdm login page,when 
you turn on ubuntu and load it)However,Login sound will still play and sound 
settings will change regardless of what you choose.
  I should add that,this happens only after a reboot or shutdown,boot again,and 
not when you logout and login again

  Desired solution:
  - Any changes made to the volume control in the Unity Greeter should carry 
through to the logged in session and vice versa.  
  - For example, if a user changes or mutes the volume in the Unity Greeter, 
when they are logged in to their session this value should be carried over
  - The other way around is also true, if a user changes or mutes the volume in 
their session, when they log out this value should be displayed in the greeter.
  - Sound settings are stored individually on a per user account basis.  The 
sound settings displayed in the greeter should change in line with the 
currently focused user account.  So for example User A is currently focused and 
has has volume at 100%. If the focus in the greeter is changed to User B (who 
has volume muted), the sound indicator should change to display the muted state.

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[Desktop-packages] [Bug 840777] Re: Muting sound indicator in Unity Greeter does not mute sound on login

[Michael Terry]

** Changed in: unity-greeter (Ubuntu)
   Status: Triaged = Incomplete

** Changed in: indicator-sound (Ubuntu)
   Status: Triaged = Incomplete

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Title:
  Muting sound indicator in Unity Greeter does not mute sound on login

Status in Ayatana Design:
  Incomplete
Status in Sound Menu:
  Triaged
Status in Unity Greeter:
  Triaged
Status in “indicator-sound” package in Ubuntu:
  Incomplete
Status in “unity-greeter” package in Ubuntu:
  Incomplete

Bug description:
  I am using beta edition of Ubuntu 11.10,with lightdm 0.9.3-0ubuntu8,and unity 
4.12.0-0ubuntu2,
  There is a new feature in Display Manager(well,I didn't notice it in gdm,but 
it might have been there as well),That you can mute the sound so that login 
sound wont play(This option exists in the top of the lightdm login page,when 
you turn on ubuntu and load it)However,Login sound will still play and sound 
settings will change regardless of what you choose.
  I should add that,this happens only after a reboot or shutdown,boot again,and 
not when you logout and login again

  Desired solution:
  - Any changes made to the volume control in the Unity Greeter should carry 
through to the logged in session and vice versa.  
  - For example, if a user changes or mutes the volume in the Unity Greeter, 
when they are logged in to their session this value should be carried over
  - The other way around is also true, if a user changes or mutes the volume in 
their session, when they log out this value should be displayed in the greeter.
  - Sound settings are stored individually on a per user account basis.  The 
sound settings displayed in the greeter should change in line with the 
currently focused user account.  So for example User A is currently focused and 
has has volume at 100%. If the focus in the greeter is changed to User B (who 
has volume muted), the sound indicator should change to display the muted state.

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[Desktop-packages] [Bug 840777] Re: Muting sound indicator in Unity Greeter does not mute sound on login

[Sebastien Bacher]

** Changed in: indicator-sound
 Assignee: Conor Curran (cjcurran) = (unassigned)

** Changed in: unity-greeter
 Assignee: Conor Curran (cjcurran) = (unassigned)

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Title:
  Muting sound indicator in Unity Greeter does not mute sound on login

Status in Ayatana Design:
  Fix Committed
Status in Sound Menu:
  Triaged
Status in Unity Greeter:
  Triaged
Status in “indicator-sound” package in Ubuntu:
  Triaged
Status in “unity-greeter” package in Ubuntu:
  Triaged

Bug description:
  I am using beta edition of Ubuntu 11.10,with lightdm 0.9.3-0ubuntu8,and unity 
4.12.0-0ubuntu2,
  There is a new feature in Display Manager(well,I didn't notice it in gdm,but 
it might have been there as well),That you can mute the sound so that login 
sound wont play(This option exists in the top of the lightdm login page,when 
you turn on ubuntu and load it)However,Login sound will still play and sound 
settings will change regardless of what you choose.
  I should add that,this happens only after a reboot or shutdown,boot again,and 
not when you logout and login again

  Desired solution:
  - Any changes made to the volume control in the Unity Greeter should carry 
through to the logged in session and vice versa.  
  - For example, if a user changes or mutes the volume in the Unity Greeter, 
when they are logged in to their session this value should be carried over
  - The other way around is also true, if a user changes or mutes the volume in 
their session, when they log out this value should be displayed in the greeter.
  - Sound settings are stored individually on a per user account basis.  The 
sound settings displayed in the greeter should change in line with the 
currently focused user account.  So for example User A is currently focused and 
has has volume at 100%. If the focus in the greeter is changed to User B (who 
has volume muted), the sound indicator should change to display the muted state.

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[Desktop-packages] [Bug 840777] Re: Muting sound indicator in Unity Greeter does not mute sound on login

[John Lea]

** Changed in: indicator-sound
   Importance: Low = Medium

** Changed in: indicator-sound (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Low = Medium

** Changed in: unity-greeter (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Low = Medium

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Title:
  Muting sound indicator in Unity Greeter does not mute sound on login

Status in Ayatana Design:
  Fix Committed
Status in Sound Menu:
  Triaged
Status in Unity Greeter:
  Triaged
Status in “indicator-sound” package in Ubuntu:
  Triaged
Status in “unity-greeter” package in Ubuntu:
  Triaged

Bug description:
  I am using beta edition of Ubuntu 11.10,with lightdm 0.9.3-0ubuntu8,and unity 
4.12.0-0ubuntu2,
  There is a new feature in Display Manager(well,I didn't notice it in gdm,but 
it might have been there as well),That you can mute the sound so that login 
sound wont play(This option exists in the top of the lightdm login page,when 
you turn on ubuntu and load it)However,Login sound will still play and sound 
settings will change regardless of what you choose.
  I should add that,this happens only after a reboot or shutdown,boot again,and 
not when you logout and login again

  Desired solution:
  - Any changes made to the volume control in the Unity Greeter should carry 
through to the logged in session and vice versa.  
  - For example, if a user changes or mutes the volume in the Unity Greeter, 
when they are logged in to their session this value should be carried over
  - The other way around is also true, if a user changes or mutes the volume in 
their session, when they log out this value should be displayed in the greeter.
  - Sound settings are stored individually on a per user account basis.  The 
sound settings displayed in the greeter should change in line with the 
currently focused user account.  So for example User A is currently focused and 
has has volume at 100%. If the focus in the greeter is changed to User B (who 
has volume muted), the sound indicator should change to display the muted state.

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