Re: [Desktop-packages] [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
22/09/2015 17:21 "madbiologist" <160...@bugs.launchpad.net> : > > JohnWashington - This bug is about the default resize grab handle at > window borders being too small (1 pixel, or 4 pixels by some accounts) > to be easily usable. This has been fixed with the implementation of a > larger default resize grab handle (10 pixels I think). Why I cannot note this? It seems to me, that it's still needed to try to catch 4 pixels, not 10 or wider?.. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to light-themes in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult Status in Ayatana Design: Fix Released Status in emerald: New Status in One Hundred Papercuts: Fix Released Status in metacity: In Progress Status in ubuntu-mate: Opinion Status in Release Notes for Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in Unity: Fix Released Status in unity-2d: Invalid Status in light-themes package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in unity package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Bug description: This bug is fixed in unity-3d since ubuntu 11.04. It still exists in unity-2d and will never be fixed as unity-2d is no longer supported since ubuntu 12.10 (see comment #343). * This should mostly be fixed for Natty and might get backported to earlier releases as well. For Precise (12.04) this is again broken for unity-2d (as of 17.7.2012 unity-2d 5.12.0-0ubuntu1.1). Note that if the window has a scrollbar, you can grab that to resize the window. If not, you are stuck with the 1px border. Workaround: NONE KNOWN (see comment 320)? * *Blueprint for Natty, Ubuntu 11.04: https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/packageselection- dx-n-resizing-windows Work items1 * Make sure the new resize grip fits in current applications; doesn't interfere with anything. We should make some noise about this during the Natty cycle so people keep their eyes open and file bugs. 2 * Invisible window resize area - around 3px invisible area to allow resize on all sides. * Working grip backported to gtk2 already available in ppa : https://launchpad.net/~bratsche/+archive/gtk * Workaround for Compiz/Unity: Alt+Middlemousebutton resizes a window most comfortably. Workaround: Edit /usr/share/themes/Ambiance/metacity-1/metacity- theme-1.xml. Set the following values in frame_geometry_normal as desired: Binary package hint: metacity - The issue has been an issue for users (especially of large) screens for several releases- Trackpad users seem to be particularly impacted by this- The issue appears to have been significantly aggravated in Lucid by changing the border width from 3 pixels to 1 pixel The window borders in metacity are far too thin to be used for comfortable window resizing, and resize handles are not available in all applications (or even most). In fact, of all the windows I have open right now, not a single one of them has a resize handle. The result is that I get a lot of "misses" when I try to drag a window border, which usually results in my clicking on the wrong window altogether. The best fix for this usability bug is to create an "invisible" region around each non-maximized window about 4px thick that can be used for resizing (in addition to the visible border). Or perhaps there should be a border thickness option on the System > Preferences > Windows dialog (although the default thickness should still be increased considerably). Ideally all windows would also have a resize handle but I realize that these have to be application controlled (at least that seems to be the position of the metacity team). To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Desktop-packages] [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
and onwards means 12.04, 12.10, 13.04 and 13.10. My fault. You're right. Aleve - Which Ubuntu release and variety (Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu/Lubuntu/GNOMEbuntu) are you using? I'm wondering if your implementation is not using gtk-window-decorator. Plain mainstream official Ubuntu 13.04. It works differently in a Macbook Pro A1150 (32 bits), a Lenovo T400, a Dell Studio 1537, a BTO workstation... -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to light-themes in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult Status in Ayatana Design: Fix Released Status in Decorator for compiz-fusion: New Status in One Hundred Paper Cuts: Fix Released Status in The Metacity Window Manager: In Progress Status in Release Notes for Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in Unity: Fix Released Status in Unity 2D: Invalid Status in “light-themes” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Bug description: This bug is fixed in unity-3d since ubuntu 11.04. It still exists in unity-2d and will never be fixed as unity-2d is no longer supported since ubuntu 12.10 (see comment #343). * This should mostly be fixed for Natty and might get backported to earlier releases as well. For Precise (12.04) this is again broken for unity-2d (as of 17.7.2012 unity-2d 5.12.0-0ubuntu1.1). Note that if the window has a scrollbar, you can grab that to resize the window. If not, you are stuck with the 1px border. Workaround: NONE KNOWN (see comment 320)? * *Blueprint for Natty, Ubuntu 11.04: https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/packageselection- dx-n-resizing-windows Work items1 * Make sure the new resize grip fits in current applications; doesn't interfere with anything. We should make some noise about this during the Natty cycle so people keep their eyes open and file bugs. 2 * Invisible window resize area - around 3px invisible area to allow resize on all sides. * Working grip backported to gtk2 already available in ppa : https://launchpad.net/~bratsche/+archive/gtk * Workaround for Compiz/Unity: Alt+Middlemousebutton resizes a window most comfortably. Workaround: Edit /usr/share/themes/Ambiance/metacity-1/metacity- theme-1.xml. Set the following values in frame_geometry_normal as desired: distance name=left_width value=3/ distance name=right_width value=3/ distance name=bottom_height value=3/ Binary package hint: metacity - The issue has been an issue for users (especially of large) screens for several releases- Trackpad users seem to be particularly impacted by this- The issue appears to have been significantly aggravated in Lucid by changing the border width from 3 pixels to 1 pixel The window borders in metacity are far too thin to be used for comfortable window resizing, and resize handles are not available in all applications (or even most). In fact, of all the windows I have open right now, not a single one of them has a resize handle. The result is that I get a lot of misses when I try to drag a window border, which usually results in my clicking on the wrong window altogether. The best fix for this usability bug is to create an invisible region around each non-maximized window about 4px thick that can be used for resizing (in addition to the visible border). Or perhaps there should be a border thickness option on the System Preferences Windows dialog (although the default thickness should still be increased considerably). Ideally all windows would also have a resize handle but I realize that these have to be application controlled (at least that seems to be the position of the metacity team). To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Desktop-packages] [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
Just one more question: why should I have to install mutter on plain Unity Ubuntu which doesn't use it at all? Sam Spilsbury (smspillaz) wrote: 11.10 and onwards: Install mutter (sudo apt-get install mutter) and edit org.gnome.mutter 'draggable-border-width' in dconf-editor -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to light-themes in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult Status in Ayatana Design: Fix Released Status in Decorator for compiz-fusion: New Status in One Hundred Paper Cuts: Fix Released Status in The Metacity Window Manager: In Progress Status in Release Notes for Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in Unity: Fix Released Status in Unity 2D: Invalid Status in “light-themes” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Bug description: This bug is fixed in unity-3d since ubuntu 11.04. It still exists in unity-2d and will never be fixed as unity-2d is no longer supported since ubuntu 12.10 (see comment #343). * This should mostly be fixed for Natty and might get backported to earlier releases as well. For Precise (12.04) this is again broken for unity-2d (as of 17.7.2012 unity-2d 5.12.0-0ubuntu1.1). Note that if the window has a scrollbar, you can grab that to resize the window. If not, you are stuck with the 1px border. Workaround: NONE KNOWN (see comment 320)? * *Blueprint for Natty, Ubuntu 11.04: https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/packageselection- dx-n-resizing-windows Work items1 * Make sure the new resize grip fits in current applications; doesn't interfere with anything. We should make some noise about this during the Natty cycle so people keep their eyes open and file bugs. 2 * Invisible window resize area - around 3px invisible area to allow resize on all sides. * Working grip backported to gtk2 already available in ppa : https://launchpad.net/~bratsche/+archive/gtk * Workaround for Compiz/Unity: Alt+Middlemousebutton resizes a window most comfortably. Workaround: Edit /usr/share/themes/Ambiance/metacity-1/metacity- theme-1.xml. Set the following values in frame_geometry_normal as desired: distance name=left_width value=3/ distance name=right_width value=3/ distance name=bottom_height value=3/ Binary package hint: metacity - The issue has been an issue for users (especially of large) screens for several releases- Trackpad users seem to be particularly impacted by this- The issue appears to have been significantly aggravated in Lucid by changing the border width from 3 pixels to 1 pixel The window borders in metacity are far too thin to be used for comfortable window resizing, and resize handles are not available in all applications (or even most). In fact, of all the windows I have open right now, not a single one of them has a resize handle. The result is that I get a lot of misses when I try to drag a window border, which usually results in my clicking on the wrong window altogether. The best fix for this usability bug is to create an invisible region around each non-maximized window about 4px thick that can be used for resizing (in addition to the visible border). Or perhaps there should be a border thickness option on the System Preferences Windows dialog (although the default thickness should still be increased considerably). Ideally all windows would also have a resize handle but I realize that these have to be application controlled (at least that seems to be the position of the metacity team). To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Desktop-packages] [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
And who are those Masters of the Universe who can revert the fix released status? 2013/7/29 Ben Shadwick benshadw...@gmail.com This bug is going to be ignored unless you can get someone to revert the fix released status. I've contacted some of the people who set that status on this bug, and I suggest that others do the same. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to light-themes in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult Status in Ayatana Design: Fix Released Status in Decorator for compiz-fusion: New Status in One Hundred Paper Cuts: Fix Released Status in The Metacity Window Manager: In Progress Status in Release Notes for Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in Unity: Fix Released Status in Unity 2D: Invalid Status in “light-themes” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Bug description: This bug is fixed in unity-3d since ubuntu 11.04. It still exists in unity-2d and will never be fixed as unity-2d is no longer supported since ubuntu 12.10 (see comment #343). * This should mostly be fixed for Natty and might get backported to earlier releases as well. For Precise (12.04) this is again broken for unity-2d (as of 17.7.2012 unity-2d 5.12.0-0ubuntu1.1). Note that if the window has a scrollbar, you can grab that to resize the window. If not, you are stuck with the 1px border. Workaround: NONE KNOWN (see comment 320)? * *Blueprint for Natty, Ubuntu 11.04: https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/packageselection- dx-n-resizing-windows Work items1 * Make sure the new resize grip fits in current applications; doesn't interfere with anything. We should make some noise about this during the Natty cycle so people keep their eyes open and file bugs. 2 * Invisible window resize area - around 3px invisible area to allow resize on all sides. * Working grip backported to gtk2 already available in ppa : https://launchpad.net/~bratsche/+archive/gtk * Workaround for Compiz/Unity: Alt+Middlemousebutton resizes a window most comfortably. Workaround: Edit /usr/share/themes/Ambiance/metacity-1/metacity- theme-1.xml. Set the following values in frame_geometry_normal as desired: distance name=left_width value=3/ distance name=right_width value=3/ distance name=bottom_height value=3/ Binary package hint: metacity - The issue has been an issue for users (especially of large) screens for several releases- Trackpad users seem to be particularly impacted by this- The issue appears to have been significantly aggravated in Lucid by changing the border width from 3 pixels to 1 pixel The window borders in metacity are far too thin to be used for comfortable window resizing, and resize handles are not available in all applications (or even most). In fact, of all the windows I have open right now, not a single one of them has a resize handle. The result is that I get a lot of misses when I try to drag a window border, which usually results in my clicking on the wrong window altogether. The best fix for this usability bug is to create an invisible region around each non-maximized window about 4px thick that can be used for resizing (in addition to the visible border). Or perhaps there should be a border thickness option on the System Preferences Windows dialog (although the default thickness should still be increased considerably). Ideally all windows would also have a resize handle but I realize that these have to be application controlled (at least that seems to be the position of the metacity team). To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Desktop-packages] [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
2013/7/29 Sam Spilsbury smspil...@gmail.com Please stop asking to revert the status of this bug. It is fine as is: 1. This bug was fixed in compiz and Unity in 11.04 (two years ago now). The left, right and bottom window borders now have a ten-pixel each-way grab area. This is plain false. Wanna come over my place to see it for yourself? 2. A similar grab area was added to the top border in 13.04 Again, this can be proved false on many computers. I can show you a few. 3. If no such grab area exists In other words: such grab area might not exist, so how on Earth can you say this is fixed? and you are running Unity 3D, you can configure the borders so that they do exist: 11.04: Open /usr/share/themes/Ambiance/metacity-1/metacity-theme-1.xml and edit the padding tags under frame_tyle with the name normal_focused and normal_unfocused and add left=left_padding right=right_padding bottom=bottom_padding 11.10 and onwards: Install mutter (sudo apt-get install mutter) and edit org.gnome.mutter 'draggable-border-width' in dconf-editor What about 12.04, 12.10 and 13.04 users? Can't you see there are complaints from users of these versions as well? 5. This bug is only fixed in Unity 3D. Any similar issues with other desktop environments (gnome-classic, xfce, kde) should be reported to the relevant upstream. This bug IS NOT FIXED. Just saying so won't magically change facts. And the facts show very clearly LOTS of people have a really hard time grabbing windows borders. Some people experience it at the top of the windows, some at the sides, some at the bottom... (and we're not even talking about the elusive target of Nautilus' sidebar resizing handle...). I'm no developer so I can't imagine how you guys go about this thing, but it behaving differently for different users on different computers should tell you something. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to light-themes in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult Status in Ayatana Design: Fix Released Status in Decorator for compiz-fusion: New Status in One Hundred Paper Cuts: Fix Released Status in The Metacity Window Manager: In Progress Status in Release Notes for Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in Unity: Fix Released Status in Unity 2D: Invalid Status in “light-themes” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Bug description: This bug is fixed in unity-3d since ubuntu 11.04. It still exists in unity-2d and will never be fixed as unity-2d is no longer supported since ubuntu 12.10 (see comment #343). * This should mostly be fixed for Natty and might get backported to earlier releases as well. For Precise (12.04) this is again broken for unity-2d (as of 17.7.2012 unity-2d 5.12.0-0ubuntu1.1). Note that if the window has a scrollbar, you can grab that to resize the window. If not, you are stuck with the 1px border. Workaround: NONE KNOWN (see comment 320)? * *Blueprint for Natty, Ubuntu 11.04: https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/packageselection- dx-n-resizing-windows Work items1 * Make sure the new resize grip fits in current applications; doesn't interfere with anything. We should make some noise about this during the Natty cycle so people keep their eyes open and file bugs. 2 * Invisible window resize area - around 3px invisible area to allow resize on all sides. * Working grip backported to gtk2 already available in ppa : https://launchpad.net/~bratsche/+archive/gtk * Workaround for Compiz/Unity: Alt+Middlemousebutton resizes a window most comfortably. Workaround: Edit /usr/share/themes/Ambiance/metacity-1/metacity- theme-1.xml. Set the following values in frame_geometry_normal as desired: distance name=left_width value=3/ distance name=right_width value=3/ distance name=bottom_height value=3/ Binary package hint: metacity - The issue has been an issue for users (especially of large) screens for several releases- Trackpad users seem to be particularly impacted by this- The issue appears to have been significantly aggravated in Lucid by changing the border width from 3 pixels to 1 pixel The window borders in metacity are far too thin to be used for comfortable window resizing, and resize handles are not available in all applications (or even most). In fact, of all the windows I have open right now, not a single one of them has a resize handle. The result is that I get a lot of misses when I try to drag a window border, which usually results in my clicking on the wrong window altogether. The best fix for this usability bug is to create an invisible region around each non-maximized window about 4px thick that can be used for resizing (in addition to the
Re: [Desktop-packages] [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
2013/1/31 Sam Spilsbury smspil...@gmail.com On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 6:08 AM, OpenLaptop i...@openlaptop.nl wrote: Funny to see this bug is still not fixed sinds 2007 (6 YEARS AGO!!!) Hi. 1. It is fixed in Unity-3D, which has been the default since 12.10 No it's not. I'm using Unity-3D, which is also the default in 12.04, and borders aren't equal when it comes to resizing. It's almost imposible for me to grab top and left borders, while bottom and right are pretty easy to grab. I'd say there's at least a 3-4 pixels difference between the two cases. And no, it's not funny seeing how a basic usability like this is not being properly addressed after six years. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to light-themes in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult Status in Ayatana Design: Fix Released Status in One Hundred Paper Cuts: Fix Released Status in The Metacity Window Manager: In Progress Status in Release Notes for Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in Unity 2D: Confirmed Status in “light-themes” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “metacity” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Status in “metacity” source package in Maverick: Triaged Bug description: This bug is fixed in unity-3d since ubuntu 11.04. It still exists in unity-2d and will never be fixed as unity-2d is no longer supported since ubuntu 12.10 (see comment #343). * This should mostly be fixed for Natty and might get backported to earlier releases as well. For Precise (12.04) this is again broken for unity-2d (as of 17.7.2012 unity-2d 5.12.0-0ubuntu1.1). Note that if the window has a scrollbar, you can grab that to resize the window. If not, you are stuck with the 1px border. Workaround: NONE KNOWN (see comment 320)? * *Blueprint for Natty, Ubuntu 11.04: https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/packageselection- dx-n-resizing-windows Work items1 * Make sure the new resize grip fits in current applications; doesn't interfere with anything. We should make some noise about this during the Natty cycle so people keep their eyes open and file bugs. 2 * Invisible window resize area - around 3px invisible area to allow resize on all sides. * Working grip backported to gtk2 already available in ppa : https://launchpad.net/~bratsche/+archive/gtk * Workaround for Compiz/Unity: Alt+Middlemousebutton resizes a window most comfortably. Workaround: Edit /usr/share/themes/Ambiance/metacity-1/metacity- theme-1.xml. Set the following values in frame_geometry_normal as desired: distance name=left_width value=3/ distance name=right_width value=3/ distance name=bottom_height value=3/ Binary package hint: metacity - The issue has been an issue for users (especially of large) screens for several releases- Trackpad users seem to be particularly impacted by this- The issue appears to have been significantly aggravated in Lucid by changing the border width from 3 pixels to 1 pixel The window borders in metacity are far too thin to be used for comfortable window resizing, and resize handles are not available in all applications (or even most). In fact, of all the windows I have open right now, not a single one of them has a resize handle. The result is that I get a lot of misses when I try to drag a window border, which usually results in my clicking on the wrong window altogether. The best fix for this usability bug is to create an invisible region around each non-maximized window about 4px thick that can be used for resizing (in addition to the visible border). Or perhaps there should be a border thickness option on the System Preferences Windows dialog (although the default thickness should still be increased considerably). Ideally all windows would also have a resize handle but I realize that these have to be application controlled (at least that seems to be the position of the metacity team). To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Desktop-packages] [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
On 31/01/2013 8:51 AM, Aleve Sicofante asicofa...@gmail.com wrote: 2013/1/31 Sam Spilsbury smspil...@gmail.com On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 6:08 AM, OpenLaptop i...@openlaptop.nl wrote: Funny to see this bug is still not fixed sinds 2007 (6 YEARS AGO!!!) Hi. 1. It is fixed in Unity-3D, which has been the default since 12.10 No it's not. I'm using Unity-3D, which is also the default in 12.04, and borders aren't equal when it comes to resizing. It's almost imposible for me to grab top and left borders, while bottom and right are pretty easy to grab. I'd say there's at least a 3-4 pixels difference between the two cases. Code-wise its exactly the same for the right, left and bottom borders. The top border doesn't have the padding as it already has a grab area on the titlebar. And no, it's not funny seeing how a basic usability like this is not being properly addressed after six years. -- You received this bug notification because you are a bug assignee. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult Status in Ayatana Design: Fix Released Status in One Hundred Paper Cuts: Fix Released Status in The Metacity Window Manager: In Progress Status in Release Notes for Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in Unity 2D: Confirmed Status in “light-themes” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “metacity” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Status in “metacity” source package in Maverick: Triaged Bug description: This bug is fixed in unity-3d since ubuntu 11.04. It still exists in unity-2d and will never be fixed as unity-2d is no longer supported since ubuntu 12.10 (see comment #343). * This should mostly be fixed for Natty and might get backported to earlier releases as well. For Precise (12.04) this is again broken for unity-2d (as of 17.7.2012 unity-2d 5.12.0-0ubuntu1.1). Note that if the window has a scrollbar, you can grab that to resize the window. If not, you are stuck with the 1px border. Workaround: NONE KNOWN (see comment 320)? * *Blueprint for Natty, Ubuntu 11.04: https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/packageselection- dx-n-resizing-windows Work items1 * Make sure the new resize grip fits in current applications; doesn't interfere with anything. We should make some noise about this during the Natty cycle so people keep their eyes open and file bugs. 2 * Invisible window resize area - around 3px invisible area to allow resize on all sides. * Working grip backported to gtk2 already available in ppa : https://launchpad.net/~bratsche/+archive/gtk * Workaround for Compiz/Unity: Alt+Middlemousebutton resizes a window most comfortably. Workaround: Edit /usr/share/themes/Ambiance/metacity-1/metacity- theme-1.xml. Set the following values in frame_geometry_normal as desired: distance name=left_width value=3/ distance name=right_width value=3/ distance name=bottom_height value=3/ Binary package hint: metacity - The issue has been an issue for users (especially of large) screens for several releases- Trackpad users seem to be particularly impacted by this- The issue appears to have been significantly aggravated in Lucid by changing the border width from 3 pixels to 1 pixel The window borders in metacity are far too thin to be used for comfortable window resizing, and resize handles are not available in all applications (or even most). In fact, of all the windows I have open right now, not a single one of them has a resize handle. The result is that I get a lot of misses when I try to drag a window border, which usually results in my clicking on the wrong window altogether. The best fix for this usability bug is to create an invisible region around each non-maximized window about 4px thick that can be used for resizing (in addition to the visible border). Or perhaps there should be a border thickness option on the System Preferences Windows dialog (although the default thickness should still be increased considerably). Ideally all windows would also have a resize handle but I realize that these have to be application controlled (at least that seems to be the position of the metacity team). To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to light-themes in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult Status in Ayatana Design: Fix Released Status in One Hundred Paper Cuts: Fix Released Status in The Metacity Window Manager: In Progress Status in Release Notes for Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in
Re: [Desktop-packages] [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
2013/1/31 Sam Spilsbury smspil...@gmail.com On 31/01/2013 8:51 AM, Aleve Sicofante asicofa...@gmail.com wrote: 2013/1/31 Sam Spilsbury smspil...@gmail.com On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 6:08 AM, OpenLaptop i...@openlaptop.nl wrote: Funny to see this bug is still not fixed sinds 2007 (6 YEARS AGO!!!) Hi. 1. It is fixed in Unity-3D, which has been the default since 12.10 No it's not. I'm using Unity-3D, which is also the default in 12.04, and borders aren't equal when it comes to resizing. It's almost imposible for me to grab top and left borders, while bottom and right are pretty easy to grab. I'd say there's at least a 3-4 pixels difference between the two cases. Code-wise its exactly the same for the right, left and bottom borders. The top border doesn't have the padding as it already has a grab area on the titlebar. That's why we call it a bug: probably you see the code being correct, but since the behavior isn't, there's something going on and it must be fixed. The grab area in the titlebar has nothing to do with the resizing area (or shouldn't). -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to light-themes in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult Status in Ayatana Design: Fix Released Status in One Hundred Paper Cuts: Fix Released Status in The Metacity Window Manager: In Progress Status in Release Notes for Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in Unity 2D: Confirmed Status in “light-themes” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “metacity” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Status in “metacity” source package in Maverick: Triaged Bug description: This bug is fixed in unity-3d since ubuntu 11.04. It still exists in unity-2d and will never be fixed as unity-2d is no longer supported since ubuntu 12.10 (see comment #343). * This should mostly be fixed for Natty and might get backported to earlier releases as well. For Precise (12.04) this is again broken for unity-2d (as of 17.7.2012 unity-2d 5.12.0-0ubuntu1.1). Note that if the window has a scrollbar, you can grab that to resize the window. If not, you are stuck with the 1px border. Workaround: NONE KNOWN (see comment 320)? * *Blueprint for Natty, Ubuntu 11.04: https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/packageselection- dx-n-resizing-windows Work items1 * Make sure the new resize grip fits in current applications; doesn't interfere with anything. We should make some noise about this during the Natty cycle so people keep their eyes open and file bugs. 2 * Invisible window resize area - around 3px invisible area to allow resize on all sides. * Working grip backported to gtk2 already available in ppa : https://launchpad.net/~bratsche/+archive/gtk * Workaround for Compiz/Unity: Alt+Middlemousebutton resizes a window most comfortably. Workaround: Edit /usr/share/themes/Ambiance/metacity-1/metacity- theme-1.xml. Set the following values in frame_geometry_normal as desired: distance name=left_width value=3/ distance name=right_width value=3/ distance name=bottom_height value=3/ Binary package hint: metacity - The issue has been an issue for users (especially of large) screens for several releases- Trackpad users seem to be particularly impacted by this- The issue appears to have been significantly aggravated in Lucid by changing the border width from 3 pixels to 1 pixel The window borders in metacity are far too thin to be used for comfortable window resizing, and resize handles are not available in all applications (or even most). In fact, of all the windows I have open right now, not a single one of them has a resize handle. The result is that I get a lot of misses when I try to drag a window border, which usually results in my clicking on the wrong window altogether. The best fix for this usability bug is to create an invisible region around each non-maximized window about 4px thick that can be used for resizing (in addition to the visible border). Or perhaps there should be a border thickness option on the System Preferences Windows dialog (although the default thickness should still be increased considerably). Ideally all windows would also have a resize handle but I realize that these have to be application controlled (at least that seems to be the position of the metacity team). To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Desktop-packages] [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 10:34 AM, Aleve Sicofante asicofa...@gmail.com wrote: That's why we call it a bug: probably you see the code being correct, but since the behavior isn't, there's something going on and it must be fixed. The grab area in the titlebar has nothing to do with the resizing area (or shouldn't). Please, feel free to report an another bug about that. There is a detailed guide on how you can do that here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs It does not make any sense to continue a discussion on an old bug report that is about a totally different issue. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to light-themes in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult Status in Ayatana Design: Fix Released Status in One Hundred Paper Cuts: Fix Released Status in The Metacity Window Manager: In Progress Status in Release Notes for Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in Unity 2D: Invalid Status in “light-themes” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Bug description: This bug is fixed in unity-3d since ubuntu 11.04. It still exists in unity-2d and will never be fixed as unity-2d is no longer supported since ubuntu 12.10 (see comment #343). * This should mostly be fixed for Natty and might get backported to earlier releases as well. For Precise (12.04) this is again broken for unity-2d (as of 17.7.2012 unity-2d 5.12.0-0ubuntu1.1). Note that if the window has a scrollbar, you can grab that to resize the window. If not, you are stuck with the 1px border. Workaround: NONE KNOWN (see comment 320)? * *Blueprint for Natty, Ubuntu 11.04: https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/packageselection- dx-n-resizing-windows Work items1 * Make sure the new resize grip fits in current applications; doesn't interfere with anything. We should make some noise about this during the Natty cycle so people keep their eyes open and file bugs. 2 * Invisible window resize area - around 3px invisible area to allow resize on all sides. * Working grip backported to gtk2 already available in ppa : https://launchpad.net/~bratsche/+archive/gtk * Workaround for Compiz/Unity: Alt+Middlemousebutton resizes a window most comfortably. Workaround: Edit /usr/share/themes/Ambiance/metacity-1/metacity- theme-1.xml. Set the following values in frame_geometry_normal as desired: distance name=left_width value=3/ distance name=right_width value=3/ distance name=bottom_height value=3/ Binary package hint: metacity - The issue has been an issue for users (especially of large) screens for several releases- Trackpad users seem to be particularly impacted by this- The issue appears to have been significantly aggravated in Lucid by changing the border width from 3 pixels to 1 pixel The window borders in metacity are far too thin to be used for comfortable window resizing, and resize handles are not available in all applications (or even most). In fact, of all the windows I have open right now, not a single one of them has a resize handle. The result is that I get a lot of misses when I try to drag a window border, which usually results in my clicking on the wrong window altogether. The best fix for this usability bug is to create an invisible region around each non-maximized window about 4px thick that can be used for resizing (in addition to the visible border). Or perhaps there should be a border thickness option on the System Preferences Windows dialog (although the default thickness should still be increased considerably). Ideally all windows would also have a resize handle but I realize that these have to be application controlled (at least that seems to be the position of the metacity team). To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Desktop-packages] [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
2013/1/31 Andrea Corbellini corbellini.and...@gmail.com On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 10:34 AM, Aleve Sicofante asicofa...@gmail.com wrote: It does not make any sense to continue a discussion on an old bug report that is about a totally different issue. Excuse me? The title and description of this bug is EXACTLY the issue. The fact that it's not about Metacity anymore, but about Unity-3D doesn't make the slightest difference. Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is INDEED difficult after all these years, and a fix is needed for the current window manager. Whoever has the power to do that, please add Unity-3D as a project affected by this bug. Then let's try to fix it. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to light-themes in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult Status in Ayatana Design: Fix Released Status in One Hundred Paper Cuts: Fix Released Status in The Metacity Window Manager: In Progress Status in Release Notes for Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in Unity 2D: Invalid Status in “light-themes” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Bug description: This bug is fixed in unity-3d since ubuntu 11.04. It still exists in unity-2d and will never be fixed as unity-2d is no longer supported since ubuntu 12.10 (see comment #343). * This should mostly be fixed for Natty and might get backported to earlier releases as well. For Precise (12.04) this is again broken for unity-2d (as of 17.7.2012 unity-2d 5.12.0-0ubuntu1.1). Note that if the window has a scrollbar, you can grab that to resize the window. If not, you are stuck with the 1px border. Workaround: NONE KNOWN (see comment 320)? * *Blueprint for Natty, Ubuntu 11.04: https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/packageselection- dx-n-resizing-windows Work items1 * Make sure the new resize grip fits in current applications; doesn't interfere with anything. We should make some noise about this during the Natty cycle so people keep their eyes open and file bugs. 2 * Invisible window resize area - around 3px invisible area to allow resize on all sides. * Working grip backported to gtk2 already available in ppa : https://launchpad.net/~bratsche/+archive/gtk * Workaround for Compiz/Unity: Alt+Middlemousebutton resizes a window most comfortably. Workaround: Edit /usr/share/themes/Ambiance/metacity-1/metacity- theme-1.xml. Set the following values in frame_geometry_normal as desired: distance name=left_width value=3/ distance name=right_width value=3/ distance name=bottom_height value=3/ Binary package hint: metacity - The issue has been an issue for users (especially of large) screens for several releases- Trackpad users seem to be particularly impacted by this- The issue appears to have been significantly aggravated in Lucid by changing the border width from 3 pixels to 1 pixel The window borders in metacity are far too thin to be used for comfortable window resizing, and resize handles are not available in all applications (or even most). In fact, of all the windows I have open right now, not a single one of them has a resize handle. The result is that I get a lot of misses when I try to drag a window border, which usually results in my clicking on the wrong window altogether. The best fix for this usability bug is to create an invisible region around each non-maximized window about 4px thick that can be used for resizing (in addition to the visible border). Or perhaps there should be a border thickness option on the System Preferences Windows dialog (although the default thickness should still be increased considerably). Ideally all windows would also have a resize handle but I realize that these have to be application controlled (at least that seems to be the position of the metacity team). To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Desktop-packages] [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
2013/1/31 Andrea Corbellini corbellini.and...@gmail.com: Dear Aleve, Please, do not modify this old bug. You are wasting contributors' time. As John Lea has already pointed out, the issue you are describing has already been reported as bug #717444. The reason why this bug should remain closed is that a fix has already been written for it. If you are still affected by the bug, then the root cause may be totally different. 'Symptoms' and 'causes' are totally different concepts, and for the propuse of this bug tracker we only look at causes (because we fix the causes, not the symptoms). I'm sorry that you are having difficulties, but this is not the right place to discuss. ** Changed in: unity Status: New = Fix Released Dear Andrea: This bug is NOT fixed in Unity, so Fix Released is a plain lie. I kindly suggest you change the status ASAP. The title and description of this bug define perfectly well what happens not just in my system, but in many others. As a matter of fact, I have read people complaining about the reverse of my own situation: they can grab the resizing handlers easily at the top and the left, but not at the right and bottom. Resizing handlers are definitely broken in Unity. Do you prefer to open a new bug with exactly the same title and description as this one but referred only to Unity? Be my guest. But that's exactly the case. The title and description perfectly match what's going on TODAY on Ubuntu 12.04 and 12.10. The bug suggested by John Lea is the one which should be closed, deleted or marked as a duplicate, since it's just a particular case of this bug (it refers ONLY to the top handler). In no way it defines COMPLETELY what I and others are experiencing regarding windows resizing in Unity. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to light-themes in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult Status in Ayatana Design: Fix Released Status in One Hundred Paper Cuts: Fix Released Status in The Metacity Window Manager: In Progress Status in Release Notes for Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in Unity: Fix Released Status in Unity 2D: Invalid Status in “light-themes” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Bug description: This bug is fixed in unity-3d since ubuntu 11.04. It still exists in unity-2d and will never be fixed as unity-2d is no longer supported since ubuntu 12.10 (see comment #343). * This should mostly be fixed for Natty and might get backported to earlier releases as well. For Precise (12.04) this is again broken for unity-2d (as of 17.7.2012 unity-2d 5.12.0-0ubuntu1.1). Note that if the window has a scrollbar, you can grab that to resize the window. If not, you are stuck with the 1px border. Workaround: NONE KNOWN (see comment 320)? * *Blueprint for Natty, Ubuntu 11.04: https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/packageselection- dx-n-resizing-windows Work items1 * Make sure the new resize grip fits in current applications; doesn't interfere with anything. We should make some noise about this during the Natty cycle so people keep their eyes open and file bugs. 2 * Invisible window resize area - around 3px invisible area to allow resize on all sides. * Working grip backported to gtk2 already available in ppa : https://launchpad.net/~bratsche/+archive/gtk * Workaround for Compiz/Unity: Alt+Middlemousebutton resizes a window most comfortably. Workaround: Edit /usr/share/themes/Ambiance/metacity-1/metacity- theme-1.xml. Set the following values in frame_geometry_normal as desired: distance name=left_width value=3/ distance name=right_width value=3/ distance name=bottom_height value=3/ Binary package hint: metacity - The issue has been an issue for users (especially of large) screens for several releases- Trackpad users seem to be particularly impacted by this- The issue appears to have been significantly aggravated in Lucid by changing the border width from 3 pixels to 1 pixel The window borders in metacity are far too thin to be used for comfortable window resizing, and resize handles are not available in all applications (or even most). In fact, of all the windows I have open right now, not a single one of them has a resize handle. The result is that I get a lot of misses when I try to drag a window border, which usually results in my clicking on the wrong window altogether. The best fix for this usability bug is to create an invisible region around each non-maximized window about 4px thick that can be used for resizing (in addition to the visible border). Or perhaps there should be a border thickness option on the System Preferences Windows dialog (although the default thickness should still
Re: [Desktop-packages] [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 6:32 PM, MC Return 160...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote: Sam, I'm running Emerald on Raring, so maybe that is why - but here grabbing window borders to initiate a resize is still very fuzzy... We maybe should retest and revisit this issue for 13.04 ? The invisible border logic is only implemented in gtk-window-decorator. It would have to be implemented on a per-decorator basis. -- You received this bug notification because you are a bug assignee. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult Status in Ayatana Design: Fix Released Status in One Hundred Paper Cuts: Fix Released Status in The Metacity Window Manager: In Progress Status in Release Notes for Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in Unity 2D: Invalid Status in “light-themes” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Bug description: This bug is fixed in unity-3d since ubuntu 11.04. It still exists in unity-2d and will never be fixed as unity-2d is no longer supported since ubuntu 12.10 (see comment #343). * This should mostly be fixed for Natty and might get backported to earlier releases as well. For Precise (12.04) this is again broken for unity-2d (as of 17.7.2012 unity-2d 5.12.0-0ubuntu1.1). Note that if the window has a scrollbar, you can grab that to resize the window. If not, you are stuck with the 1px border. Workaround: NONE KNOWN (see comment 320)? * *Blueprint for Natty, Ubuntu 11.04: https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/packageselection- dx-n-resizing-windows Work items1 * Make sure the new resize grip fits in current applications; doesn't interfere with anything. We should make some noise about this during the Natty cycle so people keep their eyes open and file bugs. 2 * Invisible window resize area - around 3px invisible area to allow resize on all sides. * Working grip backported to gtk2 already available in ppa : https://launchpad.net/~bratsche/+archive/gtk * Workaround for Compiz/Unity: Alt+Middlemousebutton resizes a window most comfortably. Workaround: Edit /usr/share/themes/Ambiance/metacity-1/metacity- theme-1.xml. Set the following values in frame_geometry_normal as desired: distance name=left_width value=3/ distance name=right_width value=3/ distance name=bottom_height value=3/ Binary package hint: metacity - The issue has been an issue for users (especially of large) screens for several releases- Trackpad users seem to be particularly impacted by this- The issue appears to have been significantly aggravated in Lucid by changing the border width from 3 pixels to 1 pixel The window borders in metacity are far too thin to be used for comfortable window resizing, and resize handles are not available in all applications (or even most). In fact, of all the windows I have open right now, not a single one of them has a resize handle. The result is that I get a lot of misses when I try to drag a window border, which usually results in my clicking on the wrong window altogether. The best fix for this usability bug is to create an invisible region around each non-maximized window about 4px thick that can be used for resizing (in addition to the visible border). Or perhaps there should be a border thickness option on the System Preferences Windows dialog (although the default thickness should still be increased considerably). Ideally all windows would also have a resize handle but I realize that these have to be application controlled (at least that seems to be the position of the metacity team). To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- Sam Spilsbury -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to light-themes in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult Status in Ayatana Design: Fix Released Status in One Hundred Paper Cuts: Fix Released Status in The Metacity Window Manager: In Progress Status in Release Notes for Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in Unity: Fix Released Status in Unity 2D: Invalid Status in “light-themes” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Bug description: This bug is fixed in unity-3d since ubuntu 11.04. It still exists in unity-2d and will never be fixed as unity-2d is no longer supported since ubuntu 12.10 (see comment #343). * This should mostly be fixed for Natty and might get backported to earlier releases as well. For Precise (12.04) this is again broken for unity-2d (as of 17.7.2012 unity-2d 5.12.0-0ubuntu1.1). Note that if the window has a scrollbar, you can grab that to resize
Re: [Desktop-packages] [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 9:07 PM, Dan Halbert halb...@halwitz.org wrote: To Andrea, Sam, and other developers: The title of this bug is broad and describes a problem encountered in multiple window managers. That is what draws people to this bug. I would suggest that you edit the title and narrow it to describe the manager(s) in which it has been fixed, and to add text to the beginning of the description to point to the specific bugs filed for other window managers. I agree. -- You received this bug notification because you are a bug assignee. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult Status in Ayatana Design: Fix Released Status in One Hundred Paper Cuts: Fix Released Status in The Metacity Window Manager: In Progress Status in Release Notes for Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in Unity: Fix Released Status in Unity 2D: Invalid Status in “light-themes” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Bug description: This bug is fixed in unity-3d since ubuntu 11.04. It still exists in unity-2d and will never be fixed as unity-2d is no longer supported since ubuntu 12.10 (see comment #343). * This should mostly be fixed for Natty and might get backported to earlier releases as well. For Precise (12.04) this is again broken for unity-2d (as of 17.7.2012 unity-2d 5.12.0-0ubuntu1.1). Note that if the window has a scrollbar, you can grab that to resize the window. If not, you are stuck with the 1px border. Workaround: NONE KNOWN (see comment 320)? * *Blueprint for Natty, Ubuntu 11.04: https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/packageselection- dx-n-resizing-windows Work items1 * Make sure the new resize grip fits in current applications; doesn't interfere with anything. We should make some noise about this during the Natty cycle so people keep their eyes open and file bugs. 2 * Invisible window resize area - around 3px invisible area to allow resize on all sides. * Working grip backported to gtk2 already available in ppa : https://launchpad.net/~bratsche/+archive/gtk * Workaround for Compiz/Unity: Alt+Middlemousebutton resizes a window most comfortably. Workaround: Edit /usr/share/themes/Ambiance/metacity-1/metacity- theme-1.xml. Set the following values in frame_geometry_normal as desired: distance name=left_width value=3/ distance name=right_width value=3/ distance name=bottom_height value=3/ Binary package hint: metacity - The issue has been an issue for users (especially of large) screens for several releases- Trackpad users seem to be particularly impacted by this- The issue appears to have been significantly aggravated in Lucid by changing the border width from 3 pixels to 1 pixel The window borders in metacity are far too thin to be used for comfortable window resizing, and resize handles are not available in all applications (or even most). In fact, of all the windows I have open right now, not a single one of them has a resize handle. The result is that I get a lot of misses when I try to drag a window border, which usually results in my clicking on the wrong window altogether. The best fix for this usability bug is to create an invisible region around each non-maximized window about 4px thick that can be used for resizing (in addition to the visible border). Or perhaps there should be a border thickness option on the System Preferences Windows dialog (although the default thickness should still be increased considerably). Ideally all windows would also have a resize handle but I realize that these have to be application controlled (at least that seems to be the position of the metacity team). To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- Sam Spilsbury -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to light-themes in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult Status in Ayatana Design: Fix Released Status in One Hundred Paper Cuts: Fix Released Status in The Metacity Window Manager: In Progress Status in Release Notes for Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in Unity: Fix Released Status in Unity 2D: Invalid Status in “light-themes” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Bug description: This bug is fixed in unity-3d since ubuntu 11.04. It still exists in unity-2d and will never be fixed as unity-2d is no longer supported since ubuntu 12.10 (see comment #343). * This should mostly be fixed for Natty and might get backported to earlier releases as well. For Precise (12.04) this is again broken for unity-2d (as
Re: [Desktop-packages] [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 8:36 PM, madbiologist 160...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote: Aleve - I think what Andrea was trying to say is what John Lea subsequently said - the specific bug for the window title bar/top border resizing issue is bug #717444. However that does ignore your first paragraph about the left border being more difficult to grab than the bottom and right borders. It is a puzzling dilemma about whether the latter should be opened as a new bug or not - technically it might have a different cause, but usability-wise it has the same effect. What really annoys me is the comments made by Sam Spilsbury: 1. It is fixed in Unity-3D, which has been the default since 12.10 2. It isn't worth fixing in Unity-2D, since it would require extensive patching to metacity's frame display code If I understand this bug's description correctly, this problem exists in Unity-2D on Ubuntu 12.04 Precise Pangolin. This is an LTS release - according to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases it will be supported on both the desktop and the server until April 2017. This should mean fully and wholly supported, not partly supported. I also disagree with marking this bug's unity-2d task as Invalid while the upstream GNOME bug is still open as this implies that even if GNOME were to develop and deploy a fix, Ubuntu would not adopt the fix. And of course the fact that GNOME are considering fixing this issue should not in any way preclude Ubuntu from attempting to fix it. Of course there would be no preclusion from including such a fix if it were to be done. What I'm saying is that I've worked extensively on multiple window managers, and I can tell you with a lot of confidence that implementing the same kind of invisible padding that we have in compiz inside of metacity would not be an easy task, and as such, isn't going to be a priority any time soon as far as I can tell. Those who worked on this functionality for compiz (myself and Thomas) no longer work for Canonical, and have no intention of implementing it inside of metacity. 3. Comments like these are not helpful. Sam - these comments are not intended to help you. They are intended to help the people using Unity-2D on Precise. And even if the issue of providing full-support for Precise were to be sadly and frustratingly ignored, advising people using Unity-2D on Precise to upgrade to Ubuntu 12.10 Quantal Quetzal is unlikely to help matters, due to the fact that if their GPU is too old/weak to run Unity-3D then their CPU is also likely to be too old/weak to run Unity-3D using the LLVMpipe fallback code - see bug 1046497 and bug 1055936. If you have a GPU that is too old to run unity-3D, you will likely have trouble running unity-2D as well. Both are hardware accelerated (in different ways, the former using OpenGL, the latter using XRender). I understand the providing support for precise is important, but the reality is that Canonical wasn't ever structured to do that. Basically the entire team that worked on the Unity shell from 11.04 - 12.04 has moved on from the company. As far as I'm aware, patches are accepted for the older codebases, but actively supporting older releases, especially for a product that is free of charge wouldn't be a large part of any corporate strategy. Think staff training costs, patch burdens over multiple releases etc. In any case, I didn't meant to offend, and I apologize if my frank tone was offensive. What I meant to cover with my third point was stuff like this (which you will notice my comment was in direct reply to): Funny to see this bug is still not fixed sinds 2007 (6 YEARS AGO!!!) Having a nagging tone with developers doesn't actually promote your bug in the queue. In fact, its a real turn off for most developers, and will likely cause them to ignore or mentally reduce the importance of the bug or reporter in question. As the person who spent a few weeks perfecting the implementation of this fix, I find it offensive that others would comment on bug reports with such ignorance. Its a continual theme across multiple bug reports on multiple open source projects and I can assure you its a very common cause of developer de-motivation, burnout, frustration, depression and eventually departure. Commentators should keep this in mind when posting. Developers thrive from co-operation and common enthusiasm. They don't thrive in environments when someone tries to tell them that item #217 out of 480 on their list if apparently more important than anything else. -- Sam Spilsbury -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to light-themes in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult Status in Ayatana Design: Fix Released Status in One Hundred Paper Cuts: Fix Released Status in The Metacity Window Manager: In Progress Status in Release Notes for Ubuntu: Fix Released
Re: [Desktop-packages] [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 7:07 PM, Aleve Sicofante asicofa...@gmail.com wrote: 2013/1/31 Andrea Corbellini corbellini.and...@gmail.com On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 10:34 AM, Aleve Sicofante asicofa...@gmail.com wrote: It does not make any sense to continue a discussion on an old bug report that is about a totally different issue. Excuse me? The title and description of this bug is EXACTLY the issue. The fact that it's not about Metacity anymore, but about Unity-3D doesn't make the slightest difference. Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is INDEED difficult after all these years, and a fix is needed for the current window manager. Whoever has the power to do that, please add Unity-3D as a project affected by this bug. Then let's try to fix it. Aleve, if you are still having problems resizing windows you can bump up the padding around the window. If I remember correctly its in the key org.gnome.mutter:draggable-border-width -- You received this bug notification because you are a bug assignee. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult Status in Ayatana Design: Fix Released Status in One Hundred Paper Cuts: Fix Released Status in The Metacity Window Manager: In Progress Status in Release Notes for Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in Unity 2D: Invalid Status in “light-themes” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Bug description: This bug is fixed in unity-3d since ubuntu 11.04. It still exists in unity-2d and will never be fixed as unity-2d is no longer supported since ubuntu 12.10 (see comment #343). * This should mostly be fixed for Natty and might get backported to earlier releases as well. For Precise (12.04) this is again broken for unity-2d (as of 17.7.2012 unity-2d 5.12.0-0ubuntu1.1). Note that if the window has a scrollbar, you can grab that to resize the window. If not, you are stuck with the 1px border. Workaround: NONE KNOWN (see comment 320)? * *Blueprint for Natty, Ubuntu 11.04: https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/packageselection- dx-n-resizing-windows Work items1 * Make sure the new resize grip fits in current applications; doesn't interfere with anything. We should make some noise about this during the Natty cycle so people keep their eyes open and file bugs. 2 * Invisible window resize area - around 3px invisible area to allow resize on all sides. * Working grip backported to gtk2 already available in ppa : https://launchpad.net/~bratsche/+archive/gtk * Workaround for Compiz/Unity: Alt+Middlemousebutton resizes a window most comfortably. Workaround: Edit /usr/share/themes/Ambiance/metacity-1/metacity- theme-1.xml. Set the following values in frame_geometry_normal as desired: distance name=left_width value=3/ distance name=right_width value=3/ distance name=bottom_height value=3/ Binary package hint: metacity - The issue has been an issue for users (especially of large) screens for several releases- Trackpad users seem to be particularly impacted by this- The issue appears to have been significantly aggravated in Lucid by changing the border width from 3 pixels to 1 pixel The window borders in metacity are far too thin to be used for comfortable window resizing, and resize handles are not available in all applications (or even most). In fact, of all the windows I have open right now, not a single one of them has a resize handle. The result is that I get a lot of misses when I try to drag a window border, which usually results in my clicking on the wrong window altogether. The best fix for this usability bug is to create an invisible region around each non-maximized window about 4px thick that can be used for resizing (in addition to the visible border). Or perhaps there should be a border thickness option on the System Preferences Windows dialog (although the default thickness should still be increased considerably). Ideally all windows would also have a resize handle but I realize that these have to be application controlled (at least that seems to be the position of the metacity team). To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- Sam Spilsbury -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to light-themes in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult Status in Ayatana Design: Fix Released Status in One Hundred Paper Cuts: Fix Released Status in The Metacity Window Manager: In Progress Status in Release Notes for Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in Unity: Fix Released Status in Unity 2D:
Re: [Desktop-packages] [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
2013/1/31 Sam Spilsbury smspil...@gmail.com Aleve, if you are still having problems resizing windows you can bump up the padding around the window. If I remember correctly its in the key org.gnome.mutter:draggable-border-width There's no such thing in Unity. Mutter is used in Gnome Shell... -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to light-themes in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult Status in Ayatana Design: Fix Released Status in One Hundred Paper Cuts: Fix Released Status in The Metacity Window Manager: In Progress Status in Release Notes for Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in Unity: Fix Released Status in Unity 2D: Invalid Status in “light-themes” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Bug description: This bug is fixed in unity-3d since ubuntu 11.04. It still exists in unity-2d and will never be fixed as unity-2d is no longer supported since ubuntu 12.10 (see comment #343). * This should mostly be fixed for Natty and might get backported to earlier releases as well. For Precise (12.04) this is again broken for unity-2d (as of 17.7.2012 unity-2d 5.12.0-0ubuntu1.1). Note that if the window has a scrollbar, you can grab that to resize the window. If not, you are stuck with the 1px border. Workaround: NONE KNOWN (see comment 320)? * *Blueprint for Natty, Ubuntu 11.04: https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/packageselection- dx-n-resizing-windows Work items1 * Make sure the new resize grip fits in current applications; doesn't interfere with anything. We should make some noise about this during the Natty cycle so people keep their eyes open and file bugs. 2 * Invisible window resize area - around 3px invisible area to allow resize on all sides. * Working grip backported to gtk2 already available in ppa : https://launchpad.net/~bratsche/+archive/gtk * Workaround for Compiz/Unity: Alt+Middlemousebutton resizes a window most comfortably. Workaround: Edit /usr/share/themes/Ambiance/metacity-1/metacity- theme-1.xml. Set the following values in frame_geometry_normal as desired: distance name=left_width value=3/ distance name=right_width value=3/ distance name=bottom_height value=3/ Binary package hint: metacity - The issue has been an issue for users (especially of large) screens for several releases- Trackpad users seem to be particularly impacted by this- The issue appears to have been significantly aggravated in Lucid by changing the border width from 3 pixels to 1 pixel The window borders in metacity are far too thin to be used for comfortable window resizing, and resize handles are not available in all applications (or even most). In fact, of all the windows I have open right now, not a single one of them has a resize handle. The result is that I get a lot of misses when I try to drag a window border, which usually results in my clicking on the wrong window altogether. The best fix for this usability bug is to create an invisible region around each non-maximized window about 4px thick that can be used for resizing (in addition to the visible border). Or perhaps there should be a border thickness option on the System Preferences Windows dialog (although the default thickness should still be increased considerably). Ideally all windows would also have a resize handle but I realize that these have to be application controlled (at least that seems to be the position of the metacity team). To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Desktop-packages] [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 4:20 AM, Aleve Sicofante asicofa...@gmail.com wrote: 2013/1/31 Sam Spilsbury smspil...@gmail.com Aleve, if you are still having problems resizing windows you can bump up the padding around the window. If I remember correctly its in the key org.gnome.mutter:draggable-border-width There's no such thing in Unity. Mutter is used in Gnome Shell... gtk-window-decorator integrates with the mutter keys. -- You received this bug notification because you are a bug assignee. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult Status in Ayatana Design: Fix Released Status in One Hundred Paper Cuts: Fix Released Status in The Metacity Window Manager: In Progress Status in Release Notes for Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in Unity: Fix Released Status in Unity 2D: Invalid Status in “light-themes” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Bug description: This bug is fixed in unity-3d since ubuntu 11.04. It still exists in unity-2d and will never be fixed as unity-2d is no longer supported since ubuntu 12.10 (see comment #343). * This should mostly be fixed for Natty and might get backported to earlier releases as well. For Precise (12.04) this is again broken for unity-2d (as of 17.7.2012 unity-2d 5.12.0-0ubuntu1.1). Note that if the window has a scrollbar, you can grab that to resize the window. If not, you are stuck with the 1px border. Workaround: NONE KNOWN (see comment 320)? * *Blueprint for Natty, Ubuntu 11.04: https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/packageselection- dx-n-resizing-windows Work items1 * Make sure the new resize grip fits in current applications; doesn't interfere with anything. We should make some noise about this during the Natty cycle so people keep their eyes open and file bugs. 2 * Invisible window resize area - around 3px invisible area to allow resize on all sides. * Working grip backported to gtk2 already available in ppa : https://launchpad.net/~bratsche/+archive/gtk * Workaround for Compiz/Unity: Alt+Middlemousebutton resizes a window most comfortably. Workaround: Edit /usr/share/themes/Ambiance/metacity-1/metacity- theme-1.xml. Set the following values in frame_geometry_normal as desired: distance name=left_width value=3/ distance name=right_width value=3/ distance name=bottom_height value=3/ Binary package hint: metacity - The issue has been an issue for users (especially of large) screens for several releases- Trackpad users seem to be particularly impacted by this- The issue appears to have been significantly aggravated in Lucid by changing the border width from 3 pixels to 1 pixel The window borders in metacity are far too thin to be used for comfortable window resizing, and resize handles are not available in all applications (or even most). In fact, of all the windows I have open right now, not a single one of them has a resize handle. The result is that I get a lot of misses when I try to drag a window border, which usually results in my clicking on the wrong window altogether. The best fix for this usability bug is to create an invisible region around each non-maximized window about 4px thick that can be used for resizing (in addition to the visible border). Or perhaps there should be a border thickness option on the System Preferences Windows dialog (although the default thickness should still be increased considerably). Ideally all windows would also have a resize handle but I realize that these have to be application controlled (at least that seems to be the position of the metacity team). To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- Sam Spilsbury -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to light-themes in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult Status in Ayatana Design: Fix Released Status in One Hundred Paper Cuts: Fix Released Status in The Metacity Window Manager: In Progress Status in Release Notes for Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in Unity: Fix Released Status in Unity 2D: Invalid Status in “light-themes” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Bug description: This bug is fixed in unity-3d since ubuntu 11.04. It still exists in unity-2d and will never be fixed as unity-2d is no longer supported since ubuntu 12.10 (see comment #343). * This should mostly be fixed for Natty and might get backported to earlier releases as well. For Precise (12.04) this is again broken for unity-2d (as of 17.7.2012 unity-2d 5.12.0-0ubuntu1.1). Note that
Re: [Desktop-packages] [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
2013/2/1 Sam Spilsbury smspil...@gmail.com There's no such thing in Unity. Mutter is used in Gnome Shell... gtk-window-decorator integrates with the mutter keys. Lovely, but there's stil no org.gnome.mutter:draggable- border-width key in my Unity-only installation's dconf. Actually, there's nothing like org.gnome.mutter there. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to light-themes in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult Status in Ayatana Design: Fix Released Status in One Hundred Paper Cuts: Fix Released Status in The Metacity Window Manager: In Progress Status in Release Notes for Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in Unity: Fix Released Status in Unity 2D: Invalid Status in “light-themes” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Bug description: This bug is fixed in unity-3d since ubuntu 11.04. It still exists in unity-2d and will never be fixed as unity-2d is no longer supported since ubuntu 12.10 (see comment #343). * This should mostly be fixed for Natty and might get backported to earlier releases as well. For Precise (12.04) this is again broken for unity-2d (as of 17.7.2012 unity-2d 5.12.0-0ubuntu1.1). Note that if the window has a scrollbar, you can grab that to resize the window. If not, you are stuck with the 1px border. Workaround: NONE KNOWN (see comment 320)? * *Blueprint for Natty, Ubuntu 11.04: https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/packageselection- dx-n-resizing-windows Work items1 * Make sure the new resize grip fits in current applications; doesn't interfere with anything. We should make some noise about this during the Natty cycle so people keep their eyes open and file bugs. 2 * Invisible window resize area - around 3px invisible area to allow resize on all sides. * Working grip backported to gtk2 already available in ppa : https://launchpad.net/~bratsche/+archive/gtk * Workaround for Compiz/Unity: Alt+Middlemousebutton resizes a window most comfortably. Workaround: Edit /usr/share/themes/Ambiance/metacity-1/metacity- theme-1.xml. Set the following values in frame_geometry_normal as desired: distance name=left_width value=3/ distance name=right_width value=3/ distance name=bottom_height value=3/ Binary package hint: metacity - The issue has been an issue for users (especially of large) screens for several releases- Trackpad users seem to be particularly impacted by this- The issue appears to have been significantly aggravated in Lucid by changing the border width from 3 pixels to 1 pixel The window borders in metacity are far too thin to be used for comfortable window resizing, and resize handles are not available in all applications (or even most). In fact, of all the windows I have open right now, not a single one of them has a resize handle. The result is that I get a lot of misses when I try to drag a window border, which usually results in my clicking on the wrong window altogether. The best fix for this usability bug is to create an invisible region around each non-maximized window about 4px thick that can be used for resizing (in addition to the visible border). Or perhaps there should be a border thickness option on the System Preferences Windows dialog (although the default thickness should still be increased considerably). Ideally all windows would also have a resize handle but I realize that these have to be application controlled (at least that seems to be the position of the metacity team). To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Desktop-packages] [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 1:38 PM, Aleve Sicofante asicofa...@gmail.com wrote: 2013/2/1 Sam Spilsbury smspil...@gmail.com There's no such thing in Unity. Mutter is used in Gnome Shell... gtk-window-decorator integrates with the mutter keys. Lovely, but there's stil no org.gnome.mutter:draggable- border-width key in my Unity-only installation's dconf. Actually, there's nothing like org.gnome.mutter there. Ah, I believe I made it so that if mutter wasn't installed, it just uses the default value of 10px, as there was very little usecase for making it configurable. If you want to adjust it, you'll have to install mutter, and adjusting that setting will adjust the draggable border width on both mutter and unity. -- You received this bug notification because you are a bug assignee. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult Status in Ayatana Design: Fix Released Status in One Hundred Paper Cuts: Fix Released Status in The Metacity Window Manager: In Progress Status in Release Notes for Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in Unity: Fix Released Status in Unity 2D: Invalid Status in “light-themes” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Bug description: This bug is fixed in unity-3d since ubuntu 11.04. It still exists in unity-2d and will never be fixed as unity-2d is no longer supported since ubuntu 12.10 (see comment #343). * This should mostly be fixed for Natty and might get backported to earlier releases as well. For Precise (12.04) this is again broken for unity-2d (as of 17.7.2012 unity-2d 5.12.0-0ubuntu1.1). Note that if the window has a scrollbar, you can grab that to resize the window. If not, you are stuck with the 1px border. Workaround: NONE KNOWN (see comment 320)? * *Blueprint for Natty, Ubuntu 11.04: https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/packageselection- dx-n-resizing-windows Work items1 * Make sure the new resize grip fits in current applications; doesn't interfere with anything. We should make some noise about this during the Natty cycle so people keep their eyes open and file bugs. 2 * Invisible window resize area - around 3px invisible area to allow resize on all sides. * Working grip backported to gtk2 already available in ppa : https://launchpad.net/~bratsche/+archive/gtk * Workaround for Compiz/Unity: Alt+Middlemousebutton resizes a window most comfortably. Workaround: Edit /usr/share/themes/Ambiance/metacity-1/metacity- theme-1.xml. Set the following values in frame_geometry_normal as desired: distance name=left_width value=3/ distance name=right_width value=3/ distance name=bottom_height value=3/ Binary package hint: metacity - The issue has been an issue for users (especially of large) screens for several releases- Trackpad users seem to be particularly impacted by this- The issue appears to have been significantly aggravated in Lucid by changing the border width from 3 pixels to 1 pixel The window borders in metacity are far too thin to be used for comfortable window resizing, and resize handles are not available in all applications (or even most). In fact, of all the windows I have open right now, not a single one of them has a resize handle. The result is that I get a lot of misses when I try to drag a window border, which usually results in my clicking on the wrong window altogether. The best fix for this usability bug is to create an invisible region around each non-maximized window about 4px thick that can be used for resizing (in addition to the visible border). Or perhaps there should be a border thickness option on the System Preferences Windows dialog (although the default thickness should still be increased considerably). Ideally all windows would also have a resize handle but I realize that these have to be application controlled (at least that seems to be the position of the metacity team). To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- Sam Spilsbury -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to light-themes in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult Status in Ayatana Design: Fix Released Status in One Hundred Paper Cuts: Fix Released Status in The Metacity Window Manager: In Progress Status in Release Notes for Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in Unity: Fix Released Status in Unity 2D: Invalid Status in “light-themes” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Bug description: This bug is fixed in unity-3d since ubuntu 11.04. It still exists in unity-2d and will never be fixed as
Re: [Desktop-packages] [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
2013/2/1 Sam Spilsbury smspil...@gmail.com Ah, I believe I made it so that if mutter wasn't installed, it just uses the default value of 10px, as there was very little usecase for making it configurable. If you want to adjust it, you'll have to install mutter, and adjusting that setting will adjust the draggable border width on both mutter and unity. Thanks. I might do that. I still urge the developers to either add such a key to dconf or just fix the issue in Unity. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to light-themes in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult Status in Ayatana Design: Fix Released Status in One Hundred Paper Cuts: Fix Released Status in The Metacity Window Manager: In Progress Status in Release Notes for Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in Unity: Fix Released Status in Unity 2D: Invalid Status in “light-themes” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Bug description: This bug is fixed in unity-3d since ubuntu 11.04. It still exists in unity-2d and will never be fixed as unity-2d is no longer supported since ubuntu 12.10 (see comment #343). * This should mostly be fixed for Natty and might get backported to earlier releases as well. For Precise (12.04) this is again broken for unity-2d (as of 17.7.2012 unity-2d 5.12.0-0ubuntu1.1). Note that if the window has a scrollbar, you can grab that to resize the window. If not, you are stuck with the 1px border. Workaround: NONE KNOWN (see comment 320)? * *Blueprint for Natty, Ubuntu 11.04: https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/packageselection- dx-n-resizing-windows Work items1 * Make sure the new resize grip fits in current applications; doesn't interfere with anything. We should make some noise about this during the Natty cycle so people keep their eyes open and file bugs. 2 * Invisible window resize area - around 3px invisible area to allow resize on all sides. * Working grip backported to gtk2 already available in ppa : https://launchpad.net/~bratsche/+archive/gtk * Workaround for Compiz/Unity: Alt+Middlemousebutton resizes a window most comfortably. Workaround: Edit /usr/share/themes/Ambiance/metacity-1/metacity- theme-1.xml. Set the following values in frame_geometry_normal as desired: distance name=left_width value=3/ distance name=right_width value=3/ distance name=bottom_height value=3/ Binary package hint: metacity - The issue has been an issue for users (especially of large) screens for several releases- Trackpad users seem to be particularly impacted by this- The issue appears to have been significantly aggravated in Lucid by changing the border width from 3 pixels to 1 pixel The window borders in metacity are far too thin to be used for comfortable window resizing, and resize handles are not available in all applications (or even most). In fact, of all the windows I have open right now, not a single one of them has a resize handle. The result is that I get a lot of misses when I try to drag a window border, which usually results in my clicking on the wrong window altogether. The best fix for this usability bug is to create an invisible region around each non-maximized window about 4px thick that can be used for resizing (in addition to the visible border). Or perhaps there should be a border thickness option on the System Preferences Windows dialog (although the default thickness should still be increased considerably). Ideally all windows would also have a resize handle but I realize that these have to be application controlled (at least that seems to be the position of the metacity team). To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Desktop-packages] [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 6:08 AM, OpenLaptop i...@openlaptop.nl wrote: Funny to see this bug is still not fixed sinds 2007 (6 YEARS AGO!!!) Hi. 1. It is fixed in Unity-3D, which has been the default since 12.10 2. It isn't worth fixing in Unity-2D, since it would require extensive patching to metacity's frame display code 3. Comments like these are not helpful. -- You received this bug notification because you are a bug assignee. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult Status in Ayatana Design: Fix Released Status in One Hundred Paper Cuts: Fix Released Status in The Metacity Window Manager: In Progress Status in Release Notes for Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in Unity 2D: Confirmed Status in “light-themes” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “metacity” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Status in “metacity” source package in Maverick: Triaged Bug description: * This should mostly be fixed for Natty and might get backported to earlier releases as well. For Precise (12.04) this is again broken for unity-2d (as of 17.7.2012 unity-2d 5.12.0-0ubuntu1.1). Note that if the window has a scrollbar, you can grab that to resize the window. If not, you are stuck with the 1px border. Workaround: NONE KNOWN (see comment 320)? * *Blueprint for Natty, Ubuntu 11.04: https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/packageselection- dx-n-resizing-windows Work items1 * Make sure the new resize grip fits in current applications; doesn't interfere with anything. We should make some noise about this during the Natty cycle so people keep their eyes open and file bugs. 2 * Invisible window resize area - around 3px invisible area to allow resize on all sides. * Working grip backported to gtk2 already available in ppa : https://launchpad.net/~bratsche/+archive/gtk * Workaround for Compiz/Unity: Alt+Middlemousebutton resizes a window most comfortably. Workaround: Edit /usr/share/themes/Ambiance/metacity-1/metacity- theme-1.xml. Set the following values in frame_geometry_normal as desired: distance name=left_width value=3/ distance name=right_width value=3/ distance name=bottom_height value=3/ Binary package hint: metacity - The issue has been an issue for users (especially of large) screens for several releases- Trackpad users seem to be particularly impacted by this- The issue appears to have been significantly aggravated in Lucid by changing the border width from 3 pixels to 1 pixel The window borders in metacity are far too thin to be used for comfortable window resizing, and resize handles are not available in all applications (or even most). In fact, of all the windows I have open right now, not a single one of them has a resize handle. The result is that I get a lot of misses when I try to drag a window border, which usually results in my clicking on the wrong window altogether. The best fix for this usability bug is to create an invisible region around each non-maximized window about 4px thick that can be used for resizing (in addition to the visible border). Or perhaps there should be a border thickness option on the System Preferences Windows dialog (although the default thickness should still be increased considerably). Ideally all windows would also have a resize handle but I realize that these have to be application controlled (at least that seems to be the position of the metacity team). To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- Sam Spilsbury -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to light-themes in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult Status in Ayatana Design: Fix Released Status in One Hundred Paper Cuts: Fix Released Status in The Metacity Window Manager: In Progress Status in Release Notes for Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in Unity 2D: Confirmed Status in “light-themes” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “metacity” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Status in “metacity” source package in Maverick: Triaged Bug description: * This should mostly be fixed for Natty and might get backported to earlier releases as well. For Precise (12.04) this is again broken for unity-2d (as of 17.7.2012 unity-2d 5.12.0-0ubuntu1.1). Note that if the window has a scrollbar, you can grab that to resize the window. If not, you are stuck with the 1px border. Workaround: NONE KNOWN (see comment 320)? * *Blueprint for Natty, Ubuntu 11.04:
Re: [Desktop-packages] [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
Hi. On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 3:21 PM, latimerio 160...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote: That said I want to resize my windows at ANY border not just in the corners or from the title bar. You already can. There's a small amount of invisible padding on every side of the window in Unity3D. This has been the only desktop installed since 12.10, and is the default desktop since 11.04. Click and drag around the edges to resize the window. Done. -- Sam Spilsbury -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to light-themes in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult Status in Ayatana Design: Fix Released Status in One Hundred Paper Cuts: Fix Released Status in The Metacity Window Manager: In Progress Status in Release Notes for Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in Unity 2D: Confirmed Status in “light-themes” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “metacity” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Status in “metacity” source package in Maverick: Triaged Bug description: This bug is fixed in unity-3d since ubuntu 11.04. It still exists in unity-2d and will never be fixed as unity-2d is no longer supported since ubuntu 12.10 (see comment #343). * This should mostly be fixed for Natty and might get backported to earlier releases as well. For Precise (12.04) this is again broken for unity-2d (as of 17.7.2012 unity-2d 5.12.0-0ubuntu1.1). Note that if the window has a scrollbar, you can grab that to resize the window. If not, you are stuck with the 1px border. Workaround: NONE KNOWN (see comment 320)? * *Blueprint for Natty, Ubuntu 11.04: https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/packageselection- dx-n-resizing-windows Work items1 * Make sure the new resize grip fits in current applications; doesn't interfere with anything. We should make some noise about this during the Natty cycle so people keep their eyes open and file bugs. 2 * Invisible window resize area - around 3px invisible area to allow resize on all sides. * Working grip backported to gtk2 already available in ppa : https://launchpad.net/~bratsche/+archive/gtk * Workaround for Compiz/Unity: Alt+Middlemousebutton resizes a window most comfortably. Workaround: Edit /usr/share/themes/Ambiance/metacity-1/metacity- theme-1.xml. Set the following values in frame_geometry_normal as desired: distance name=left_width value=3/ distance name=right_width value=3/ distance name=bottom_height value=3/ Binary package hint: metacity - The issue has been an issue for users (especially of large) screens for several releases- Trackpad users seem to be particularly impacted by this- The issue appears to have been significantly aggravated in Lucid by changing the border width from 3 pixels to 1 pixel The window borders in metacity are far too thin to be used for comfortable window resizing, and resize handles are not available in all applications (or even most). In fact, of all the windows I have open right now, not a single one of them has a resize handle. The result is that I get a lot of misses when I try to drag a window border, which usually results in my clicking on the wrong window altogether. The best fix for this usability bug is to create an invisible region around each non-maximized window about 4px thick that can be used for resizing (in addition to the visible border). Or perhaps there should be a border thickness option on the System Preferences Windows dialog (although the default thickness should still be increased considerably). Ideally all windows would also have a resize handle but I realize that these have to be application controlled (at least that seems to be the position of the metacity team). To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Desktop-packages] [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
Not likely. Adding the invisible window borders to metacity's non-composited mode is likely a nontrivial affair. On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 2:59 PM, axel 160...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote: Unity-2D is not supported in never versions and does not have the same fix. ah, thanks for that hint which explains while this bug is still on confirmed critical for unity-2d. lets see then if unity-2d ever will be fixed =) -- You received this bug notification because you are a bug assignee. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult Status in Ayatana Design: Fix Released Status in One Hundred Paper Cuts: Fix Released Status in The Metacity Window Manager: In Progress Status in Release Notes for Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in Unity 2D: Confirmed Status in “human-gtk-theme” package in Ubuntu: Invalid Status in “light-themes” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “metacity” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Status in “human-gtk-theme” source package in Maverick: Invalid Status in “light-themes” source package in Maverick: Triaged Status in “metacity” source package in Maverick: Triaged Bug description: * This should mostly be fixed for Natty and might get backported to earlier releases as well. For Precise (12.04) this is again broken for unity-2d (as of 17.7.2012 unity-2d 5.12.0-0ubuntu1.1). Note that if the window has a scrollbar, you can grab that to resize the window. If not, you are stuck with the 1px border. Workaround: NONE KNOWN (see comment 320)? * *Blueprint for Natty, Ubuntu 11.04: https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/packageselection- dx-n-resizing-windows Work items1 * Make sure the new resize grip fits in current applications; doesn't interfere with anything. We should make some noise about this during the Natty cycle so people keep their eyes open and file bugs. 2 * Invisible window resize area - around 3px invisible area to allow resize on all sides. * Working grip backported to gtk2 already available in ppa : https://launchpad.net/~bratsche/+archive/gtk * Workaround: Edit /usr/share/themes/Ambiance/metacity-1/metacity- theme-1.xml. Set the following values in frame_geometry_normal as desired: distance name=left_width value=3/ distance name=right_width value=3/ distance name=bottom_height value=3/ Binary package hint: metacity - The issue has been an issue for users (especially of large) screens for several releases- Trackpad users seem to be particularly impacted by this- The issue appears to have been significantly aggravated in Lucid by changing the border width from 3 pixels to 1 pixel The window borders in metacity are far too thin to be used for comfortable window resizing, and resize handles are not available in all applications (or even most). In fact, of all the windows I have open right now, not a single one of them has a resize handle. The result is that I get a lot of misses when I try to drag a window border, which usually results in my clicking on the wrong window altogether. The best fix for this usability bug is to create an invisible region around each non-maximized window about 4px thick that can be used for resizing (in addition to the visible border). Or perhaps there should be a border thickness option on the System Preferences Windows dialog (although the default thickness should still be increased considerably). Ideally all windows would also have a resize handle but I realize that these have to be application controlled (at least that seems to be the position of the metacity team). To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- Sam Spilsbury -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to light-themes in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult Status in Ayatana Design: Fix Released Status in One Hundred Paper Cuts: Fix Released Status in The Metacity Window Manager: In Progress Status in Release Notes for Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in Unity 2D: Confirmed Status in “human-gtk-theme” package in Ubuntu: Invalid Status in “light-themes” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “metacity” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Status in “human-gtk-theme” source package in Maverick: Invalid Status in “light-themes” source package in Maverick: Triaged Status in “metacity” source package in Maverick: Triaged Bug description: * This should mostly be fixed for Natty and might get backported to earlier releases as well. For Precise (12.04) this is again broken for
Re: [Desktop-packages] [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
Unity-2D is not supported in never versions and does not have the same fix. On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 2:17 PM, axel 160...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote: just seems to follow the trend of our time that others seem to know better whats good for you and use their power and ignorance to stick to their conviction ;) contrary to aleve (#333) i find it harder to grab any edge other than the top one (i'm on unity-2d). often having to use the touchpad of my notebook and resizing windows though it has been a pain for a long time now and its sad that the situation has not really improved. at least this issue seems to have got some attention as hundredpapercuts seems to have this on their list. i just wonder where their fix (status released) will become visible... -- You received this bug notification because you are a bug assignee. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult Status in Ayatana Design: Fix Released Status in One Hundred Paper Cuts: Fix Released Status in The Metacity Window Manager: In Progress Status in Release Notes for Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in Unity 2D: Confirmed Status in “human-gtk-theme” package in Ubuntu: Invalid Status in “light-themes” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “metacity” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Status in “human-gtk-theme” source package in Maverick: Invalid Status in “light-themes” source package in Maverick: Triaged Status in “metacity” source package in Maverick: Triaged Bug description: * This should mostly be fixed for Natty and might get backported to earlier releases as well. For Precise (12.04) this is again broken for unity-2d (as of 17.7.2012 unity-2d 5.12.0-0ubuntu1.1). Note that if the window has a scrollbar, you can grab that to resize the window. If not, you are stuck with the 1px border. Workaround: NONE KNOWN (see comment 320)? * *Blueprint for Natty, Ubuntu 11.04: https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/packageselection- dx-n-resizing-windows Work items1 * Make sure the new resize grip fits in current applications; doesn't interfere with anything. We should make some noise about this during the Natty cycle so people keep their eyes open and file bugs. 2 * Invisible window resize area - around 3px invisible area to allow resize on all sides. * Working grip backported to gtk2 already available in ppa : https://launchpad.net/~bratsche/+archive/gtk * Workaround: Edit /usr/share/themes/Ambiance/metacity-1/metacity- theme-1.xml. Set the following values in frame_geometry_normal as desired: distance name=left_width value=3/ distance name=right_width value=3/ distance name=bottom_height value=3/ Binary package hint: metacity - The issue has been an issue for users (especially of large) screens for several releases- Trackpad users seem to be particularly impacted by this- The issue appears to have been significantly aggravated in Lucid by changing the border width from 3 pixels to 1 pixel The window borders in metacity are far too thin to be used for comfortable window resizing, and resize handles are not available in all applications (or even most). In fact, of all the windows I have open right now, not a single one of them has a resize handle. The result is that I get a lot of misses when I try to drag a window border, which usually results in my clicking on the wrong window altogether. The best fix for this usability bug is to create an invisible region around each non-maximized window about 4px thick that can be used for resizing (in addition to the visible border). Or perhaps there should be a border thickness option on the System Preferences Windows dialog (although the default thickness should still be increased considerably). Ideally all windows would also have a resize handle but I realize that these have to be application controlled (at least that seems to be the position of the metacity team). To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- Sam Spilsbury -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to light-themes in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult Status in Ayatana Design: Fix Released Status in One Hundred Paper Cuts: Fix Released Status in The Metacity Window Manager: In Progress Status in Release Notes for Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in Unity 2D: Confirmed Status in “human-gtk-theme” package in Ubuntu: Invalid Status in “light-themes” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “metacity” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Status in
Re: [Desktop-packages] [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
On 21 August 2012 20:51, Colin Law 160...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote: As I understand it unity-2d is to be removed in Quantal(12.10), emulation of 3d being provided by llvmpipe for hardware that does not support it, so that Unity (3d) will run. From that point of view it appears that this bug becomes irrelevant from 12.10. That is unless there are other use cases. My laptop (Alienware m15x) has always ran Unity 3d and I've always been presented with a touchpad that was unusable for consistently being able to resize a window. Why is removing Unity 2d going to make this any better? -- Steve When one person suffers from a delusion it is insanity. When many people suffer from a delusion it is called religion. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult Status in Ayatana Design: Fix Released Status in One Hundred Paper Cuts: Fix Released Status in The Metacity Window Manager: In Progress Status in Release Notes for Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in Unity 2D: Confirmed Status in “human-gtk-theme” package in Ubuntu: Invalid Status in “light-themes” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “metacity” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Status in “human-gtk-theme” source package in Maverick: Invalid Status in “light-themes” source package in Maverick: Triaged Status in “metacity” source package in Maverick: Triaged Bug description: * This should mostly be fixed for Natty and might get backported to earlier releases as well. For Precise (12.04) this is again broken for unity-2d (as of 17.7.2012 unity-2d 5.12.0-0ubuntu1.1). Note that if the window has a scrollbar, you can grab that to resize the window. If not, you are stuck with the 1px border. Workaround: NONE KNOWN (see comment 320)? * *Blueprint for Natty, Ubuntu 11.04: https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/packageselection- dx-n-resizing-windows Work items1 * Make sure the new resize grip fits in current applications; doesn't interfere with anything. We should make some noise about this during the Natty cycle so people keep their eyes open and file bugs. 2 * Invisible window resize area - around 3px invisible area to allow resize on all sides. * Working grip backported to gtk2 already available in ppa : https://launchpad.net/~bratsche/+archive/gtk * Workaround: Edit /usr/share/themes/Ambiance/metacity-1/metacity- theme-1.xml. Set the following values in frame_geometry_normal as desired: distance name=left_width value=3/ distance name=right_width value=3/ distance name=bottom_height value=3/ Binary package hint: metacity - The issue has been an issue for users (especially of large) screens for several releases- Trackpad users seem to be particularly impacted by this- The issue appears to have been significantly aggravated in Lucid by changing the border width from 3 pixels to 1 pixel The window borders in metacity are far too thin to be used for comfortable window resizing, and resize handles are not available in all applications (or even most). In fact, of all the windows I have open right now, not a single one of them has a resize handle. The result is that I get a lot of misses when I try to drag a window border, which usually results in my clicking on the wrong window altogether. The best fix for this usability bug is to create an invisible region around each non-maximized window about 4px thick that can be used for resizing (in addition to the visible border). Or perhaps there should be a border thickness option on the System Preferences Windows dialog (although the default thickness should still be increased considerably). Ideally all windows would also have a resize handle but I realize that these have to be application controlled (at least that seems to be the position of the metacity team). To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Desktop-packages] [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
On 22/03/12 09:45, Ingo Gerth wrote: Oh my god I can not believe this bug returned recently in 12.04. What a regression! It's like a nightmare! I am starting to think there must be an evil force trying to make the Ubuntu desktop harder to use! First this really annoying persistent bug, then Unity... :-P -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult Status in Ayatana Design: Fix Released Status in One Hundred Paper Cuts: Fix Released Status in The Metacity Window Manager: In Progress Status in Release Notes for Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in Unity: New Status in Unity 2D: Confirmed Status in “human-gtk-theme” package in Ubuntu: Invalid Status in “light-themes” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “metacity” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “human-gtk-theme” source package in Maverick: Invalid Status in “light-themes” source package in Maverick: Triaged Status in “metacity” source package in Maverick: Triaged Bug description: * No more comments needed This should mostly be fixed for Natty and might get backported to earlier releases as well. * *Blueprint for Natty, Ubuntu 11.04: https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/packageselection- dx-n-resizing-windows Work items1 * Make sure the new resize grip fits in current applications; doesn't interfere with anything. We should make some noise about this during the Natty cycle so people keep their eyes open and file bugs. 2 * Invisible window resize area - around 3px invisible area to allow resize on all sides. * Working grip backported to gtk2 already available in ppa : https://launchpad.net/~bratsche/+archive/gtk * Workaround: Edit /usr/share/themes/Ambiance/metacity-1/metacity- theme-1.xml. Set the following values in frame_geometry_normal as desired: distance name=left_width value=3/ distance name=right_width value=3/ distance name=bottom_height value=3/ Binary package hint: metacity - The issue has been an issue for users (especially of large) screens for several releases- Trackpad users seem to be particularly impacted by this- The issue appears to have been significantly aggravated in Lucid by changing the border width from 3 pixels to 1 pixel The window borders in metacity are far too thin to be used for comfortable window resizing, and resize handles are not available in all applications (or even most). In fact, of all the windows I have open right now, not a single one of them has a resize handle. The result is that I get a lot of misses when I try to drag a window border, which usually results in my clicking on the wrong window altogether. The best fix for this usability bug is to create an invisible region around each non-maximized window about 4px thick that can be used for resizing (in addition to the visible border). Or perhaps there should be a border thickness option on the System Preferences Windows dialog (although the default thickness should still be increased considerably). Ideally all windows would also have a resize handle but I realize that these have to be application controlled (at least that seems to be the position of the metacity team). To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Desktop-packages] [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
Renzo: In precise (ubuntu 12.04), you can resize the window by grabbing the overlay scrollbar, which is much larger than the border, and available regardless of the session type (unity-2d or anything else). Yann Dìnendal On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 16:42, Renzo Bagnati 160...@bugs.launchpad.netwrote: Are there any plans to address this bug for unity-2d, after having marked it as critical? Recently the resize grips in the bottom right corner have been entirely removed from precise, leaving the resize process of windows very difficult in unity-2d. I use the attached script (50_light-themes-borders) in /etc/X11/Xsession.d to copy the Ambiance and Radiance themes to the $HOME/.themes user directory and then modify the border width to 3 pixels, for normal frame geometry. The modifications are made only if unity-2d session is used and are reverted for other sessions. However the script may break if changes are made to the original themes. There must be surely a better way to do this... ** Attachment added: 50_light-themes-borders https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/metacity/+bug/160311/+attachment/2840420/+files/50_light-themes-borders -- You received this bug notification because you are subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult Status in Ayatana Design: Fix Released Status in One Hundred Paper Cuts: Fix Released Status in The Metacity Window Manager: In Progress Status in Release Notes for Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in Unity 2D: Confirmed Status in “human-gtk-theme” package in Ubuntu: Invalid Status in “light-themes” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “metacity” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “human-gtk-theme” source package in Maverick: Invalid Status in “light-themes” source package in Maverick: Triaged Status in “metacity” source package in Maverick: Triaged Bug description: * No more comments needed This should mostly be fixed for Natty and might get backported to earlier releases as well. * *Blueprint for Natty, Ubuntu 11.04: https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/packageselection- dx-n-resizing-windows Work items1 * Make sure the new resize grip fits in current applications; doesn't interfere with anything. We should make some noise about this during the Natty cycle so people keep their eyes open and file bugs. 2 * Invisible window resize area - around 3px invisible area to allow resize on all sides. * Working grip backported to gtk2 already available in ppa : https://launchpad.net/~bratsche/+archive/gtkhttps://launchpad.net/%7Ebratsche/+archive/gtk * Workaround: Edit /usr/share/themes/Ambiance/metacity-1/metacity- theme-1.xml. Set the following values in frame_geometry_normal as desired: distance name=left_width value=3/ distance name=right_width value=3/ distance name=bottom_height value=3/ Binary package hint: metacity - The issue has been an issue for users (especially of large) screens for several releases- Trackpad users seem to be particularly impacted by this- The issue appears to have been significantly aggravated in Lucid by changing the border width from 3 pixels to 1 pixel The window borders in metacity are far too thin to be used for comfortable window resizing, and resize handles are not available in all applications (or even most). In fact, of all the windows I have open right now, not a single one of them has a resize handle. The result is that I get a lot of misses when I try to drag a window border, which usually results in my clicking on the wrong window altogether. The best fix for this usability bug is to create an invisible region around each non-maximized window about 4px thick that can be used for resizing (in addition to the visible border). Or perhaps there should be a border thickness option on the System Preferences Windows dialog (although the default thickness should still be increased considerably). Ideally all windows would also have a resize handle but I realize that these have to be application controlled (at least that seems to be the position of the metacity team). To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult Status in Ayatana Design: Fix Released Status in One Hundred Paper Cuts: Fix Released Status in The Metacity Window Manager: In Progress Status in Release Notes for Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in Unity 2D: Confirmed Status in “human-gtk-theme” package in Ubuntu:
Re: [Desktop-packages] [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
2011/12/22 u-foka ta...@eisenberger.hu Maybe the best would be a configurable size for the hidden grab area :) Currently it's difficult to change, how I seen the size is hardcoded into the theme right? But is this really necessary? Three options: - review feedback and pick a sensible default value - add a new option to ccsm - link the actual radius with some other element that makes sense, e.g. the shadow decoration. KDE has a configurable border size somewhere in its theme options (option #2). Gnome 2 used to link the radius with the theme border (option #3). Windows and MacOS (Lion) don't have a configurable size, same as Unity (option #1). I am not sure about Gnome Shell (but the default size seems to be slightly larger than Unity). This is on of those cases where a sensible default, well, makes sense. A size of 8px or 10px would be easier to hit than 5px, without impacting usability negatively (i.e. it still falls within the visible shadow decoration, where you are unlikely to click to raise a window). It should be a relatively simple change with a negligible chance of regressions. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult Status in Ayatana Design: Fix Released Status in One Hundred Paper Cuts: Fix Released Status in The Metacity Window Manager: In Progress Status in Release Notes for Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in Unity 2D: New Status in “human-gtk-theme” package in Ubuntu: Invalid Status in “light-themes” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “metacity” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “human-gtk-theme” source package in Maverick: Invalid Status in “light-themes” source package in Maverick: Triaged Status in “metacity” source package in Maverick: Triaged Bug description: * No more comments needed This should mostly be fixed for Natty and might get backported to earlier releases as well. * *Blueprint for Natty, Ubuntu 11.04: https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/packageselection- dx-n-resizing-windows Work items1 * Make sure the new resize grip fits in current applications; doesn't interfere with anything. We should make some noise about this during the Natty cycle so people keep their eyes open and file bugs. 2 * Invisible window resize area - around 3px invisible area to allow resize on all sides. * Working grip backported to gtk2 already available in ppa : https://launchpad.net/~bratsche/+archive/gtk * Workaround: Edit /usr/share/themes/Ambiance/metacity-1/metacity- theme-1.xml. Set the following values in frame_geometry_normal as desired: distance name=left_width value=3/ distance name=right_width value=3/ distance name=bottom_height value=3/ Binary package hint: metacity - The issue has been an issue for users (especially of large) screens for several releases- Trackpad users seem to be particularly impacted by this- The issue appears to have been significantly aggravated in Lucid by changing the border width from 3 pixels to 1 pixel The window borders in metacity are far too thin to be used for comfortable window resizing, and resize handles are not available in all applications (or even most). In fact, of all the windows I have open right now, not a single one of them has a resize handle. The result is that I get a lot of misses when I try to drag a window border, which usually results in my clicking on the wrong window altogether. The best fix for this usability bug is to create an invisible region around each non-maximized window about 4px thick that can be used for resizing (in addition to the visible border). Or perhaps there should be a border thickness option on the System Preferences Windows dialog (although the default thickness should still be increased considerably). Ideally all windows would also have a resize handle but I realize that these have to be application controlled (at least that seems to be the position of the metacity team). To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Desktop-packages] [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
Actually the size of the shadow sounds as a good starting point! -- Eisenberger Tamás ta...@eisenberger.hu On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 10:07 AM, The Fiddler 160...@bugs.launchpad.netwrote: 2011/12/22 u-foka ta...@eisenberger.hu Maybe the best would be a configurable size for the hidden grab area :) Currently it's difficult to change, how I seen the size is hardcoded into the theme right? But is this really necessary? Three options: - review feedback and pick a sensible default value - add a new option to ccsm - link the actual radius with some other element that makes sense, e.g. the shadow decoration. KDE has a configurable border size somewhere in its theme options (option #2). Gnome 2 used to link the radius with the theme border (option #3). Windows and MacOS (Lion) don't have a configurable size, same as Unity (option #1). I am not sure about Gnome Shell (but the default size seems to be slightly larger than Unity). This is on of those cases where a sensible default, well, makes sense. A size of 8px or 10px would be easier to hit than 5px, without impacting usability negatively (i.e. it still falls within the visible shadow decoration, where you are unlikely to click to raise a window). It should be a relatively simple change with a negligible chance of regressions. -- You received this bug notification because you are subscribed to a duplicate bug report (638709). https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult Status in Ayatana Design: Fix Released Status in One Hundred Paper Cuts: Fix Released Status in The Metacity Window Manager: In Progress Status in Release Notes for Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in Unity 2D: New Status in “human-gtk-theme” package in Ubuntu: Invalid Status in “light-themes” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “metacity” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “human-gtk-theme” source package in Maverick: Invalid Status in “light-themes” source package in Maverick: Triaged Status in “metacity” source package in Maverick: Triaged Bug description: * No more comments needed This should mostly be fixed for Natty and might get backported to earlier releases as well. * *Blueprint for Natty, Ubuntu 11.04: https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/packageselection- dx-n-resizing-windows Work items1 * Make sure the new resize grip fits in current applications; doesn't interfere with anything. We should make some noise about this during the Natty cycle so people keep their eyes open and file bugs. 2 * Invisible window resize area - around 3px invisible area to allow resize on all sides. * Working grip backported to gtk2 already available in ppa : https://launchpad.net/~bratsche/+archive/gtk * Workaround: Edit /usr/share/themes/Ambiance/metacity-1/metacity- theme-1.xml. Set the following values in frame_geometry_normal as desired: distance name=left_width value=3/ distance name=right_width value=3/ distance name=bottom_height value=3/ Binary package hint: metacity - The issue has been an issue for users (especially of large) screens for several releases- Trackpad users seem to be particularly impacted by this- The issue appears to have been significantly aggravated in Lucid by changing the border width from 3 pixels to 1 pixel The window borders in metacity are far too thin to be used for comfortable window resizing, and resize handles are not available in all applications (or even most). In fact, of all the windows I have open right now, not a single one of them has a resize handle. The result is that I get a lot of misses when I try to drag a window border, which usually results in my clicking on the wrong window altogether. The best fix for this usability bug is to create an invisible region around each non-maximized window about 4px thick that can be used for resizing (in addition to the visible border). Or perhaps there should be a border thickness option on the System Preferences Windows dialog (although the default thickness should still be increased considerably). Ideally all windows would also have a resize handle but I realize that these have to be application controlled (at least that seems to be the position of the metacity team). To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- Mailing list:
Re: [Desktop-packages] [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
On 22 December 2011 02:21, Paul Sladen ubu...@paul.sladen.org wrote: Steve Flynn: are you on Unity 2D or Unity 3D? 3D. -- Steve When one person suffers from a delusion it is insanity. When many people suffer from a delusion it is called religion. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult Status in Ayatana Design: Fix Released Status in One Hundred Paper Cuts: Fix Released Status in The Metacity Window Manager: In Progress Status in Release Notes for Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in Unity 2D: New Status in “human-gtk-theme” package in Ubuntu: Invalid Status in “light-themes” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “metacity” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “human-gtk-theme” source package in Maverick: Invalid Status in “light-themes” source package in Maverick: Triaged Status in “metacity” source package in Maverick: Triaged Bug description: * No more comments needed This should mostly be fixed for Natty and might get backported to earlier releases as well. * *Blueprint for Natty, Ubuntu 11.04: https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/packageselection- dx-n-resizing-windows Work items1 * Make sure the new resize grip fits in current applications; doesn't interfere with anything. We should make some noise about this during the Natty cycle so people keep their eyes open and file bugs. 2 * Invisible window resize area - around 3px invisible area to allow resize on all sides. * Working grip backported to gtk2 already available in ppa : https://launchpad.net/~bratsche/+archive/gtk * Workaround: Edit /usr/share/themes/Ambiance/metacity-1/metacity- theme-1.xml. Set the following values in frame_geometry_normal as desired: distance name=left_width value=3/ distance name=right_width value=3/ distance name=bottom_height value=3/ Binary package hint: metacity - The issue has been an issue for users (especially of large) screens for several releases- Trackpad users seem to be particularly impacted by this- The issue appears to have been significantly aggravated in Lucid by changing the border width from 3 pixels to 1 pixel The window borders in metacity are far too thin to be used for comfortable window resizing, and resize handles are not available in all applications (or even most). In fact, of all the windows I have open right now, not a single one of them has a resize handle. The result is that I get a lot of misses when I try to drag a window border, which usually results in my clicking on the wrong window altogether. The best fix for this usability bug is to create an invisible region around each non-maximized window about 4px thick that can be used for resizing (in addition to the visible border). Or perhaps there should be a border thickness option on the System Preferences Windows dialog (although the default thickness should still be increased considerably). Ideally all windows would also have a resize handle but I realize that these have to be application controlled (at least that seems to be the position of the metacity team). To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Desktop-packages] [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
On 21/12/11 11:32, Nacnud Nosmoht wrote: Broken on Oneiric. And I still haven't seen a fix. And I don't care if this is or isn't a bug, and all the other nuances, I just want a way to be able to resize windows. I can make it work if I have a mouse plugged in, but using the touchpad, with my calloused fingers, it's completely impossible to grab the window border to resize the window. COME ON GUYS - THIS SHOULDN'T BE THAT HARD! Amazing eh? Microsoft folks are laughing their heads off: can't get this simply thing right? +1 (for the 10th time?) Jan -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult Status in Ayatana Design: Fix Released Status in One Hundred Paper Cuts: Fix Released Status in The Metacity Window Manager: In Progress Status in Release Notes for Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “human-gtk-theme” package in Ubuntu: Invalid Status in “light-themes” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “metacity” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “human-gtk-theme” source package in Maverick: Invalid Status in “light-themes” source package in Maverick: Triaged Status in “metacity” source package in Maverick: Triaged Bug description: * No more comments needed This should mostly be fixed for Natty and might get backported to earlier releases as well. * *Blueprint for Natty, Ubuntu 11.04: https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/packageselection- dx-n-resizing-windows Work items1 * Make sure the new resize grip fits in current applications; doesn't interfere with anything. We should make some noise about this during the Natty cycle so people keep their eyes open and file bugs. 2 * Invisible window resize area - around 3px invisible area to allow resize on all sides. * Working grip backported to gtk2 already available in ppa : https://launchpad.net/~bratsche/+archive/gtk * Workaround: Edit /usr/share/themes/Ambiance/metacity-1/metacity- theme-1.xml. Set the following values in frame_geometry_normal as desired: distance name=left_width value=3/ distance name=right_width value=3/ distance name=bottom_height value=3/ Binary package hint: metacity - The issue has been an issue for users (especially of large) screens for several releases- Trackpad users seem to be particularly impacted by this- The issue appears to have been significantly aggravated in Lucid by changing the border width from 3 pixels to 1 pixel The window borders in metacity are far too thin to be used for comfortable window resizing, and resize handles are not available in all applications (or even most). In fact, of all the windows I have open right now, not a single one of them has a resize handle. The result is that I get a lot of misses when I try to drag a window border, which usually results in my clicking on the wrong window altogether. The best fix for this usability bug is to create an invisible region around each non-maximized window about 4px thick that can be used for resizing (in addition to the visible border). Or perhaps there should be a border thickness option on the System Preferences Windows dialog (although the default thickness should still be increased considerably). Ideally all windows would also have a resize handle but I realize that these have to be application controlled (at least that seems to be the position of the metacity team). To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Desktop-packages] [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
2011/12/21 John Lea 160...@bugs.launchpad.net @jan-bakuwel-gmail; in what way is the current Ubuntu window resizing behaviour different from the Microsoft window resizing behaviour? In both Windows and Ubuntu we have several px on the left, right and bottom of the windows that is dragable, in fact I think the dragable area in Ubuntu is slightly larger. We *do* have a bug with the dragable area at the top of a window, but are there any other issues you are aware of? 1. It doesn't work in Unity2d. 2. The draggable area is ~half the size of that in Windows. (IIRC, Windows is 10px, Ubuntu is 5 or 6px). -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult Status in Ayatana Design: Fix Released Status in One Hundred Paper Cuts: Fix Released Status in The Metacity Window Manager: In Progress Status in Release Notes for Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “human-gtk-theme” package in Ubuntu: Invalid Status in “light-themes” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “metacity” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “human-gtk-theme” source package in Maverick: Invalid Status in “light-themes” source package in Maverick: Triaged Status in “metacity” source package in Maverick: Triaged Bug description: * No more comments needed This should mostly be fixed for Natty and might get backported to earlier releases as well. * *Blueprint for Natty, Ubuntu 11.04: https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/packageselection- dx-n-resizing-windows Work items1 * Make sure the new resize grip fits in current applications; doesn't interfere with anything. We should make some noise about this during the Natty cycle so people keep their eyes open and file bugs. 2 * Invisible window resize area - around 3px invisible area to allow resize on all sides. * Working grip backported to gtk2 already available in ppa : https://launchpad.net/~bratsche/+archive/gtk * Workaround: Edit /usr/share/themes/Ambiance/metacity-1/metacity- theme-1.xml. Set the following values in frame_geometry_normal as desired: distance name=left_width value=3/ distance name=right_width value=3/ distance name=bottom_height value=3/ Binary package hint: metacity - The issue has been an issue for users (especially of large) screens for several releases- Trackpad users seem to be particularly impacted by this- The issue appears to have been significantly aggravated in Lucid by changing the border width from 3 pixels to 1 pixel The window borders in metacity are far too thin to be used for comfortable window resizing, and resize handles are not available in all applications (or even most). In fact, of all the windows I have open right now, not a single one of them has a resize handle. The result is that I get a lot of misses when I try to drag a window border, which usually results in my clicking on the wrong window altogether. The best fix for this usability bug is to create an invisible region around each non-maximized window about 4px thick that can be used for resizing (in addition to the visible border). Or perhaps there should be a border thickness option on the System Preferences Windows dialog (although the default thickness should still be increased considerably). Ideally all windows would also have a resize handle but I realize that these have to be application controlled (at least that seems to be the position of the metacity team). To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Desktop-packages] [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
2011/12/21 John Lea 160...@bugs.launchpad.net @stapostol; thanks for your response, I've marked the bug as also affects unity2d. Re. the sizing of the dragable area, in WindowsXP the dragable area is 5px (but it may well be larger in Windows 7). So yes the size could be increased, but 5px also seems workable. Indeed, WinXP had 5px draggable areas - but WinXP is 10 years old now and it might not be the most suitable point of reference for modern design topics. The draggable area was increased in Vista (same as Win7) and I think I recall a msdn blog mentioning this was based on usability tests (but it's been half a decade since then and my google-fu is letting me down, so don't quote me on that). In any case, the drag area is invisible in Unity, so a potential size increase should be a relatively safe change. For those who need * significantly* larger grabable areas for accessibility reasons, another options is to use the love handles with a key combination, see http://linux-software-news-tutorials.blogspot.com/2011/06/activate- fantastic-grab-handles-in.html for details. These are indeed fantastic, maybe they merit more attention than currently given. (I love them on my laptop, but I cannot find a way to use them on my desktop). -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult Status in Ayatana Design: Fix Released Status in One Hundred Paper Cuts: Fix Released Status in The Metacity Window Manager: In Progress Status in Release Notes for Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in Unity 2D: New Status in “human-gtk-theme” package in Ubuntu: Invalid Status in “light-themes” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “metacity” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “human-gtk-theme” source package in Maverick: Invalid Status in “light-themes” source package in Maverick: Triaged Status in “metacity” source package in Maverick: Triaged Bug description: * No more comments needed This should mostly be fixed for Natty and might get backported to earlier releases as well. * *Blueprint for Natty, Ubuntu 11.04: https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/packageselection- dx-n-resizing-windows Work items1 * Make sure the new resize grip fits in current applications; doesn't interfere with anything. We should make some noise about this during the Natty cycle so people keep their eyes open and file bugs. 2 * Invisible window resize area - around 3px invisible area to allow resize on all sides. * Working grip backported to gtk2 already available in ppa : https://launchpad.net/~bratsche/+archive/gtk * Workaround: Edit /usr/share/themes/Ambiance/metacity-1/metacity- theme-1.xml. Set the following values in frame_geometry_normal as desired: distance name=left_width value=3/ distance name=right_width value=3/ distance name=bottom_height value=3/ Binary package hint: metacity - The issue has been an issue for users (especially of large) screens for several releases- Trackpad users seem to be particularly impacted by this- The issue appears to have been significantly aggravated in Lucid by changing the border width from 3 pixels to 1 pixel The window borders in metacity are far too thin to be used for comfortable window resizing, and resize handles are not available in all applications (or even most). In fact, of all the windows I have open right now, not a single one of them has a resize handle. The result is that I get a lot of misses when I try to drag a window border, which usually results in my clicking on the wrong window altogether. The best fix for this usability bug is to create an invisible region around each non-maximized window about 4px thick that can be used for resizing (in addition to the visible border). Or perhaps there should be a border thickness option on the System Preferences Windows dialog (although the default thickness should still be increased considerably). Ideally all windows would also have a resize handle but I realize that these have to be application controlled (at least that seems to be the position of the metacity team). To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Desktop-packages] [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
Hy! I'm a little bit afraid of a larger resize area.. If I click 10px far from a window, I probably want to raise the window below. 5-6px is ok, but more is risky, especially because that area is invisible. Eisenberger Tamás ta...@eisenberger.hu On 12/21/2011 03:56 PM, The Fiddler wrote: 2011/12/21 John Lea160...@bugs.launchpad.net @stapostol; thanks for your response, I've marked the bug as also affects unity2d. Re. the sizing of the dragable area, in WindowsXP the dragable area is 5px (but it may well be larger in Windows 7). So yes the size could be increased, but 5px also seems workable. Indeed, WinXP had 5px draggable areas - but WinXP is 10 years old now and it might not be the most suitable point of reference for modern design topics. The draggable area was increased in Vista (same as Win7) and I think I recall a msdn blog mentioning this was based on usability tests (but it's been half a decade since then and my google-fu is letting me down, so don't quote me on that). In any case, the drag area is invisible in Unity, so a potential size increase should be a relatively safe change. For those who need * significantly* larger grabable areas for accessibility reasons, another options is to use the love handles with a key combination, see http://linux-software-news-tutorials.blogspot.com/2011/06/activate- fantastic-grab-handles-in.html for details. These are indeed fantastic, maybe they merit more attention than currently given. (I love them on my laptop, but I cannot find a way to use them on my desktop). -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult Status in Ayatana Design: Fix Released Status in One Hundred Paper Cuts: Fix Released Status in The Metacity Window Manager: In Progress Status in Release Notes for Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in Unity 2D: New Status in “human-gtk-theme” package in Ubuntu: Invalid Status in “light-themes” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “metacity” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “human-gtk-theme” source package in Maverick: Invalid Status in “light-themes” source package in Maverick: Triaged Status in “metacity” source package in Maverick: Triaged Bug description: * No more comments needed This should mostly be fixed for Natty and might get backported to earlier releases as well. * *Blueprint for Natty, Ubuntu 11.04: https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/packageselection- dx-n-resizing-windows Work items1 * Make sure the new resize grip fits in current applications; doesn't interfere with anything. We should make some noise about this during the Natty cycle so people keep their eyes open and file bugs. 2 * Invisible window resize area - around 3px invisible area to allow resize on all sides. * Working grip backported to gtk2 already available in ppa : https://launchpad.net/~bratsche/+archive/gtk * Workaround: Edit /usr/share/themes/Ambiance/metacity-1/metacity- theme-1.xml. Set the following values in frame_geometry_normal as desired: distance name=left_width value=3/ distance name=right_width value=3/ distance name=bottom_height value=3/ Binary package hint: metacity - The issue has been an issue for users (especially of large) screens for several releases- Trackpad users seem to be particularly impacted by this- The issue appears to have been significantly aggravated in Lucid by changing the border width from 3 pixels to 1 pixel The window borders in metacity are far too thin to be used for comfortable window resizing, and resize handles are not available in all applications (or even most). In fact, of all the windows I have open right now, not a single one of them has a resize handle. The result is that I get a lot of misses when I try to drag a window border, which usually results in my clicking on the wrong window altogether. The best fix for this usability bug is to create an invisible region around each non-maximized window about 4px thick that can be used for resizing (in addition to the visible border). Or perhaps there should be a border thickness option on the System Preferences Windows dialog (although the default thickness should still be increased considerably). Ideally all windows would also have a resize handle but I realize that these have to be application controlled (at least that seems to be the position of the metacity team). To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe :
Re: [Desktop-packages] [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
Hi John, On 22/12/11 01:59, John Lea wrote: @jan-bakuwel-gmail; in what way is the current Ubuntu window resizing behaviour different from the Microsoft window resizing behaviour? In both Windows and Ubuntu we have several px on the left, right and bottom of the windows that is dragable, in fact I think the dragable area in Ubuntu is slightly larger. We *do* have a bug with the dragable area at the top of a window, but are there any other issues you are aware of? This issue has been dragging on for so long I've grown tired of it. Have you ever tried using a touchpad to resize a window with a default Ubuntu 11.10 installation on a laptop with a high resolution screen? I've given up on it on Ubuntu 10.04 and have gotten used to Alt - Right Click to resize windows until I have time to write a program that can read my mind as I don't think this will ever be fixed on Ubuntu 10.04. I can't use Ubuntu 11.10 as yet as Unity is buggy and even if it would not be buggy it still is a much lesser fit to my needs than Gnome 2. I might be forced to stay with Ubuntu 10.04 for a few more years as I think Unity need a lot more work before it's usable for anything more than occasional desktop work. Fortunately support for 10.04 has been extended - I assume for obvious reasons? The point many people are trying to make is that resizing windows needs to be intuitive. Dare I say that something that is intuitive should no more depend on the selected theme as it would on the selected background image? It has been intuitive on Windows since 3 (can't remember Windows 3 sorry :-P), as well as on any incarnation of Mac OS but somehow we seem to continue to have to debate and explain something that I would consider really really obvious. Perhaps the developers should simply use a laptop with a touchpad and high resolution screen and see if they can resize windows without inflicting RSI on themselves. If they can't, it's not fixed, no matter what technical arguments are put forward. regards, Jan -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult Status in Ayatana Design: Fix Released Status in One Hundred Paper Cuts: Fix Released Status in The Metacity Window Manager: In Progress Status in Release Notes for Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in Unity 2D: New Status in “human-gtk-theme” package in Ubuntu: Invalid Status in “light-themes” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “metacity” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “human-gtk-theme” source package in Maverick: Invalid Status in “light-themes” source package in Maverick: Triaged Status in “metacity” source package in Maverick: Triaged Bug description: * No more comments needed This should mostly be fixed for Natty and might get backported to earlier releases as well. * *Blueprint for Natty, Ubuntu 11.04: https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/packageselection- dx-n-resizing-windows Work items1 * Make sure the new resize grip fits in current applications; doesn't interfere with anything. We should make some noise about this during the Natty cycle so people keep their eyes open and file bugs. 2 * Invisible window resize area - around 3px invisible area to allow resize on all sides. * Working grip backported to gtk2 already available in ppa : https://launchpad.net/~bratsche/+archive/gtk * Workaround: Edit /usr/share/themes/Ambiance/metacity-1/metacity- theme-1.xml. Set the following values in frame_geometry_normal as desired: distance name=left_width value=3/ distance name=right_width value=3/ distance name=bottom_height value=3/ Binary package hint: metacity - The issue has been an issue for users (especially of large) screens for several releases- Trackpad users seem to be particularly impacted by this- The issue appears to have been significantly aggravated in Lucid by changing the border width from 3 pixels to 1 pixel The window borders in metacity are far too thin to be used for comfortable window resizing, and resize handles are not available in all applications (or even most). In fact, of all the windows I have open right now, not a single one of them has a resize handle. The result is that I get a lot of misses when I try to drag a window border, which usually results in my clicking on the wrong window altogether. The best fix for this usability bug is to create an invisible region around each non-maximized window about 4px thick that can be used for resizing (in addition to the visible border). Or perhaps there should be a border thickness option on the System Preferences Windows dialog (although the default thickness should still be increased
Re: [Desktop-packages] [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
On 21 December 2011 20:54, David N. Welton davidnwel...@gmail.com wrote: Bingo! My laptop has a very high resolution screen, and this bug drives me batty. Don't the developers ever test on a system with a high resolution screen and a trackpad? Try using a trackball. Absolute nightmare. -- Steve When one person suffers from a delusion it is insanity. When many people suffer from a delusion it is called religion. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult Status in Ayatana Design: Fix Released Status in One Hundred Paper Cuts: Fix Released Status in The Metacity Window Manager: In Progress Status in Release Notes for Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in Unity 2D: New Status in “human-gtk-theme” package in Ubuntu: Invalid Status in “light-themes” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “metacity” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “human-gtk-theme” source package in Maverick: Invalid Status in “light-themes” source package in Maverick: Triaged Status in “metacity” source package in Maverick: Triaged Bug description: * No more comments needed This should mostly be fixed for Natty and might get backported to earlier releases as well. * *Blueprint for Natty, Ubuntu 11.04: https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/packageselection- dx-n-resizing-windows Work items1 * Make sure the new resize grip fits in current applications; doesn't interfere with anything. We should make some noise about this during the Natty cycle so people keep their eyes open and file bugs. 2 * Invisible window resize area - around 3px invisible area to allow resize on all sides. * Working grip backported to gtk2 already available in ppa : https://launchpad.net/~bratsche/+archive/gtk * Workaround: Edit /usr/share/themes/Ambiance/metacity-1/metacity- theme-1.xml. Set the following values in frame_geometry_normal as desired: distance name=left_width value=3/ distance name=right_width value=3/ distance name=bottom_height value=3/ Binary package hint: metacity - The issue has been an issue for users (especially of large) screens for several releases- Trackpad users seem to be particularly impacted by this- The issue appears to have been significantly aggravated in Lucid by changing the border width from 3 pixels to 1 pixel The window borders in metacity are far too thin to be used for comfortable window resizing, and resize handles are not available in all applications (or even most). In fact, of all the windows I have open right now, not a single one of them has a resize handle. The result is that I get a lot of misses when I try to drag a window border, which usually results in my clicking on the wrong window altogether. The best fix for this usability bug is to create an invisible region around each non-maximized window about 4px thick that can be used for resizing (in addition to the visible border). Or perhaps there should be a border thickness option on the System Preferences Windows dialog (although the default thickness should still be increased considerably). Ideally all windows would also have a resize handle but I realize that these have to be application controlled (at least that seems to be the position of the metacity team). To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Desktop-packages] [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
Hy! I can grab the 5px areas easily with trackball or touchpad on my T61 (14,1 1440x900), on the other hand, the 1px area is nearly impossible to catch with any display and pointing device. Eisenberger Tamás ta...@eisenberger.hu On 12/21/2011 10:53 PM, Steve Flynn wrote: On 21 December 2011 20:54, David N. Weltondavidnwel...@gmail.com wrote: Bingo! My laptop has a very high resolution screen, and this bug drives me batty. Don't the developers ever test on a system with a high resolution screen and a trackpad? Try using a trackball. Absolute nightmare. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult Status in Ayatana Design: Fix Released Status in One Hundred Paper Cuts: Fix Released Status in The Metacity Window Manager: In Progress Status in Release Notes for Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in Unity 2D: New Status in “human-gtk-theme” package in Ubuntu: Invalid Status in “light-themes” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “metacity” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “human-gtk-theme” source package in Maverick: Invalid Status in “light-themes” source package in Maverick: Triaged Status in “metacity” source package in Maverick: Triaged Bug description: * No more comments needed This should mostly be fixed for Natty and might get backported to earlier releases as well. * *Blueprint for Natty, Ubuntu 11.04: https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/packageselection- dx-n-resizing-windows Work items1 * Make sure the new resize grip fits in current applications; doesn't interfere with anything. We should make some noise about this during the Natty cycle so people keep their eyes open and file bugs. 2 * Invisible window resize area - around 3px invisible area to allow resize on all sides. * Working grip backported to gtk2 already available in ppa : https://launchpad.net/~bratsche/+archive/gtk * Workaround: Edit /usr/share/themes/Ambiance/metacity-1/metacity- theme-1.xml. Set the following values in frame_geometry_normal as desired: distance name=left_width value=3/ distance name=right_width value=3/ distance name=bottom_height value=3/ Binary package hint: metacity - The issue has been an issue for users (especially of large) screens for several releases- Trackpad users seem to be particularly impacted by this- The issue appears to have been significantly aggravated in Lucid by changing the border width from 3 pixels to 1 pixel The window borders in metacity are far too thin to be used for comfortable window resizing, and resize handles are not available in all applications (or even most). In fact, of all the windows I have open right now, not a single one of them has a resize handle. The result is that I get a lot of misses when I try to drag a window border, which usually results in my clicking on the wrong window altogether. The best fix for this usability bug is to create an invisible region around each non-maximized window about 4px thick that can be used for resizing (in addition to the visible border). Or perhaps there should be a border thickness option on the System Preferences Windows dialog (although the default thickness should still be increased considerably). Ideally all windows would also have a resize handle but I realize that these have to be application controlled (at least that seems to be the position of the metacity team). To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Desktop-packages] [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
On 21 December 2011 22:27, u-foka ta...@eisenberger.hu wrote: Hy! I can grab the 5px areas easily with trackball or touchpad on my T61 (14,1 1440x900), on the other hand, the 1px area is nearly impossible to catch with any display and pointing device. Alienware m15x, 1900 * 1200. If I hit the grab area first time using the touchpad it's a fluke. If I hit it with the trackball, it's only with a degree of concentration. Same laptop, same trackball and touchpad, Windows at the same rez - no problem. /shrug Been complaining about this for getting one for 2 years and it actually got resolved. Then Oneric came out and it was back to square one. -- Steve When one person suffers from a delusion it is insanity. When many people suffer from a delusion it is called religion. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult Status in Ayatana Design: Fix Released Status in One Hundred Paper Cuts: Fix Released Status in The Metacity Window Manager: In Progress Status in Release Notes for Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in Unity 2D: New Status in “human-gtk-theme” package in Ubuntu: Invalid Status in “light-themes” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “metacity” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “human-gtk-theme” source package in Maverick: Invalid Status in “light-themes” source package in Maverick: Triaged Status in “metacity” source package in Maverick: Triaged Bug description: * No more comments needed This should mostly be fixed for Natty and might get backported to earlier releases as well. * *Blueprint for Natty, Ubuntu 11.04: https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/packageselection- dx-n-resizing-windows Work items1 * Make sure the new resize grip fits in current applications; doesn't interfere with anything. We should make some noise about this during the Natty cycle so people keep their eyes open and file bugs. 2 * Invisible window resize area - around 3px invisible area to allow resize on all sides. * Working grip backported to gtk2 already available in ppa : https://launchpad.net/~bratsche/+archive/gtk * Workaround: Edit /usr/share/themes/Ambiance/metacity-1/metacity- theme-1.xml. Set the following values in frame_geometry_normal as desired: distance name=left_width value=3/ distance name=right_width value=3/ distance name=bottom_height value=3/ Binary package hint: metacity - The issue has been an issue for users (especially of large) screens for several releases- Trackpad users seem to be particularly impacted by this- The issue appears to have been significantly aggravated in Lucid by changing the border width from 3 pixels to 1 pixel The window borders in metacity are far too thin to be used for comfortable window resizing, and resize handles are not available in all applications (or even most). In fact, of all the windows I have open right now, not a single one of them has a resize handle. The result is that I get a lot of misses when I try to drag a window border, which usually results in my clicking on the wrong window altogether. The best fix for this usability bug is to create an invisible region around each non-maximized window about 4px thick that can be used for resizing (in addition to the visible border). Or perhaps there should be a border thickness option on the System Preferences Windows dialog (although the default thickness should still be increased considerably). Ideally all windows would also have a resize handle but I realize that these have to be application controlled (at least that seems to be the position of the metacity team). To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Desktop-packages] [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
Maybe the best would be a configurable size for the hidden grab area :) Currently it's difficult to change, how I seen the size is hardcoded into the theme right? Eisenberger Tamás ta...@eisenberger.hu On 12/22/2011 01:26 AM, Steve Flynn wrote: On 21 December 2011 22:27, u-fokata...@eisenberger.hu wrote: Hy! I can grab the 5px areas easily with trackball or touchpad on my T61 (14,1 1440x900), on the other hand, the 1px area is nearly impossible to catch with any display and pointing device. Alienware m15x, 1900 * 1200. If I hit the grab area first time using the touchpad it's a fluke. If I hit it with the trackball, it's only with a degree of concentration. Same laptop, same trackball and touchpad, Windows at the same rez - no problem. /shrug Been complaining about this for getting one for 2 years and it actually got resolved. Then Oneric came out and it was back to square one. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult Status in Ayatana Design: Fix Released Status in One Hundred Paper Cuts: Fix Released Status in The Metacity Window Manager: In Progress Status in Release Notes for Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in Unity 2D: New Status in “human-gtk-theme” package in Ubuntu: Invalid Status in “light-themes” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “metacity” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “human-gtk-theme” source package in Maverick: Invalid Status in “light-themes” source package in Maverick: Triaged Status in “metacity” source package in Maverick: Triaged Bug description: * No more comments needed This should mostly be fixed for Natty and might get backported to earlier releases as well. * *Blueprint for Natty, Ubuntu 11.04: https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/packageselection- dx-n-resizing-windows Work items1 * Make sure the new resize grip fits in current applications; doesn't interfere with anything. We should make some noise about this during the Natty cycle so people keep their eyes open and file bugs. 2 * Invisible window resize area - around 3px invisible area to allow resize on all sides. * Working grip backported to gtk2 already available in ppa : https://launchpad.net/~bratsche/+archive/gtk * Workaround: Edit /usr/share/themes/Ambiance/metacity-1/metacity- theme-1.xml. Set the following values in frame_geometry_normal as desired: distance name=left_width value=3/ distance name=right_width value=3/ distance name=bottom_height value=3/ Binary package hint: metacity - The issue has been an issue for users (especially of large) screens for several releases- Trackpad users seem to be particularly impacted by this- The issue appears to have been significantly aggravated in Lucid by changing the border width from 3 pixels to 1 pixel The window borders in metacity are far too thin to be used for comfortable window resizing, and resize handles are not available in all applications (or even most). In fact, of all the windows I have open right now, not a single one of them has a resize handle. The result is that I get a lot of misses when I try to drag a window border, which usually results in my clicking on the wrong window altogether. The best fix for this usability bug is to create an invisible region around each non-maximized window about 4px thick that can be used for resizing (in addition to the visible border). Or perhaps there should be a border thickness option on the System Preferences Windows dialog (although the default thickness should still be increased considerably). Ideally all windows would also have a resize handle but I realize that these have to be application controlled (at least that seems to be the position of the metacity team). To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Desktop-packages] [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 8:05 PM, The Fiddler 160...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote: 2011/8/21 Sam Spilsbury smspil...@gmail.com Invisible borders are not implemented in unity-2d Are they technically infeasible or could they be implemented with some effort? If so, where should they be implemented? They can be implemented with some effort, but its difficult when you're not compositing because its another set of windows to be tracking (you can't reparent an InputOutput window into an InputOnly window, which means that you can't abuse reparenting like we do in compiz in order to do this easily) They'd belong in metacity in that case. -- You received this bug notification because you are a bug assignee. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult Status in Ayatana Design: Fix Released Status in One Hundred Paper Cuts: Fix Released Status in The Metacity Window Manager: In Progress Status in Release Notes for Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “human-gtk-theme” package in Ubuntu: Invalid Status in “light-themes” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “metacity” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “human-gtk-theme” source package in Maverick: Invalid Status in “light-themes” source package in Maverick: Triaged Status in “metacity” source package in Maverick: Triaged Bug description: * No more comments needed This should mostly be fixed for Natty and might get backported to earlier releases as well. * *Blueprint for Natty, Ubuntu 11.04: https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/packageselection- dx-n-resizing-windows Work items1 * Make sure the new resize grip fits in current applications; doesn't interfere with anything. We should make some noise about this during the Natty cycle so people keep their eyes open and file bugs. 2 * Invisible window resize area - around 3px invisible area to allow resize on all sides. * Working grip backported to gtk2 already available in ppa : https://launchpad.net/~bratsche/+archive/gtk * Workaround: Edit /usr/share/themes/Ambiance/metacity-1/metacity- theme-1.xml. Set the following values in frame_geometry_normal as desired: distance name=left_width value=3/ distance name=right_width value=3/ distance name=bottom_height value=3/ Binary package hint: metacity - The issue has been an issue for users (especially of large) screens for several releases- Trackpad users seem to be particularly impacted by this- The issue appears to have been significantly aggravated in Lucid by changing the border width from 3 pixels to 1 pixel The window borders in metacity are far too thin to be used for comfortable window resizing, and resize handles are not available in all applications (or even most). In fact, of all the windows I have open right now, not a single one of them has a resize handle. The result is that I get a lot of misses when I try to drag a window border, which usually results in my clicking on the wrong window altogether. The best fix for this usability bug is to create an invisible region around each non-maximized window about 4px thick that can be used for resizing (in addition to the visible border). Or perhaps there should be a border thickness option on the System Preferences Windows dialog (although the default thickness should still be increased considerably). Ideally all windows would also have a resize handle but I realize that these have to be application controlled (at least that seems to be the position of the metacity team). To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- Sam Spilsbury -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult Status in Ayatana Design: Fix Released Status in One Hundred Paper Cuts: Fix Released Status in The Metacity Window Manager: In Progress Status in Release Notes for Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “human-gtk-theme” package in Ubuntu: Invalid Status in “light-themes” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “metacity” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “human-gtk-theme” source package in Maverick: Invalid Status in “light-themes” source package in Maverick: Triaged Status in “metacity” source package in Maverick: Triaged Bug description: * No more comments needed This should mostly be fixed for Natty and might get backported to earlier releases as well. * *Blueprint for Natty, Ubuntu 11.04: https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/packageselection- dx-n-resizing-windows
Re: [Desktop-packages] [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
2011/8/21 Sam Spilsbury smspil...@gmail.com Invisible borders are not implemented in unity-2d Are they technically infeasible or could they be implemented with some effort? If so, where should they be implemented? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult Status in Ayatana Design: Fix Released Status in One Hundred Paper Cuts: Fix Released Status in The Metacity Window Manager: In Progress Status in Release Notes for Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “human-gtk-theme” package in Ubuntu: Invalid Status in “light-themes” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “metacity” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “human-gtk-theme” source package in Maverick: Invalid Status in “light-themes” source package in Maverick: Triaged Status in “metacity” source package in Maverick: Triaged Bug description: * No more comments needed This should mostly be fixed for Natty and might get backported to earlier releases as well. * *Blueprint for Natty, Ubuntu 11.04: https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/packageselection- dx-n-resizing-windows Work items1 * Make sure the new resize grip fits in current applications; doesn't interfere with anything. We should make some noise about this during the Natty cycle so people keep their eyes open and file bugs. 2 * Invisible window resize area - around 3px invisible area to allow resize on all sides. * Working grip backported to gtk2 already available in ppa : https://launchpad.net/~bratsche/+archive/gtk * Workaround: Edit /usr/share/themes/Ambiance/metacity-1/metacity- theme-1.xml. Set the following values in frame_geometry_normal as desired: distance name=left_width value=3/ distance name=right_width value=3/ distance name=bottom_height value=3/ Binary package hint: metacity - The issue has been an issue for users (especially of large) screens for several releases- Trackpad users seem to be particularly impacted by this- The issue appears to have been significantly aggravated in Lucid by changing the border width from 3 pixels to 1 pixel The window borders in metacity are far too thin to be used for comfortable window resizing, and resize handles are not available in all applications (or even most). In fact, of all the windows I have open right now, not a single one of them has a resize handle. The result is that I get a lot of misses when I try to drag a window border, which usually results in my clicking on the wrong window altogether. The best fix for this usability bug is to create an invisible region around each non-maximized window about 4px thick that can be used for resizing (in addition to the visible border). Or perhaps there should be a border thickness option on the System Preferences Windows dialog (although the default thickness should still be increased considerably). Ideally all windows would also have a resize handle but I realize that these have to be application controlled (at least that seems to be the position of the metacity team). To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
