[GitHub] ant issue #53: Optional libraries for Ant 1.10

2017-12-24 Thread twogee
Github user twogee commented on the issue:

https://github.com/apache/ant/pull/53
  
IMHO, the whole point with `-Ddest` in `fetch.xml` is being able to 
complement `$ANT_HOME/lib` in Ant distribution. Otherwise, we may just use Ivy 
and put the dependencies (except NetREXX) into `ivy.xml`

Any problems with using 2.2 for 1.9.x?


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[GitHub] ant issue #53: Optional libraries for Ant 1.10

2017-12-24 Thread bodewig
Github user bodewig commented on the issue:

https://github.com/apache/ant/pull/53
  
Ahh, there is the misunderstanding. `fetch.xml` is only there for Ant 
development, not for Ant users at all. It is there to be used by people who 
want to build and test Ant. Users are expected to pick their dependencies as 
they need them.

I'm not sure whether there are breaking changes between Commons Net 1.x and 
3.x but if Ant is compiled against 3.x chances are it won't work against 1.x 
anymore, which would break the builds of users who depend on 1.x (and never 
cared about `fetch.xml` at all as they managed their dependencies themselves).


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[GitHub] ant issue #53: Optional libraries for Ant 1.10

2017-12-24 Thread twogee
Github user twogee commented on the issue:

https://github.com/apache/ant/pull/53
  
I assumed that the intention of fetch.xml is to provide something usable in 
runtime rather than at compile time. Nevertheless, I'd rather leave JRuby as it 
is, since the newer versions have a lot of dependencies.

WRT Commons Net, what kind of changes may be troublesome? The change log 
states that 3 is binary compatible with 2 (some extraneous exceptions were 
removed). While we're at that, perhaps 1.9.x branch should use 2.2 (the 
official Java 5 release)?


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