GroupBasedProfileManager

2006-01-05 Thread Ralph Goers
After looking at the AuthenticationProfileManager code I decided to 
review the GroupBasedProfileManager. While I'm happy to see the 
read/write lock stuff gone it seems that getGlobalBaseDatas and 
getGlobalDatas could have a race condition if two threads run at the 
same time.  Both threads could very well create the CopletBaseData or 
worse getGlobalBaseDatas might clear copletDatas.object right after the 
other thread has set it in getGlobalDatas.


Re: [RT] The Real Component Simplification

2006-01-05 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Daniel Fagerstrom wrote:
 
 Decomponentization could start right away. Do you have any concrete 
 examples of components that shouldn't be components?
 
The XMLSerializer/XMLDeserializer combo is one of the best examples, I
think. These shouldn't be components. If noone objects I'll do the
changes for 2.2 - we already discussed this years ago :)

Carsten
-- 
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http://www.s-und-n.de
http://www.osoco.org/weblogs/rael/


Re: GroupBasedProfileManager

2006-01-05 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Ralph Goers wrote:
 After looking at the AuthenticationProfileManager code I decided to 
 review the GroupBasedProfileManager. While I'm happy to see the 
 read/write lock stuff gone it seems that getGlobalBaseDatas and 
 getGlobalDatas could have a race condition if two threads run at the 
 same time.  Both threads could very well create the CopletBaseData or 
 worse getGlobalBaseDatas might clear copletDatas.object right after the 
 other thread has set it in getGlobalDatas.
 
Argh, you're right - now, the methods are synchronized...but obviously
that doesn't help. I must have written this code directly after some
party I guess. I'll have a look at it today.

Carsten

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http://www.s-und-n.de
http://www.osoco.org/weblogs/rael/


Re: GroupBasedProfileManager

2006-01-05 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Carsten Ziegeler schrieb:
 Ralph Goers wrote:
 
After looking at the AuthenticationProfileManager code I decided to 
review the GroupBasedProfileManager. While I'm happy to see the 
read/write lock stuff gone it seems that getGlobalBaseDatas and 
getGlobalDatas could have a race condition if two threads run at the 
same time.  Both threads could very well create the CopletBaseData or 
worse getGlobalBaseDatas might clear copletDatas.object right after the 
other thread has set it in getGlobalDatas.

 
 Argh, you're right - now, the methods are synchronized...but obviously
 that doesn't help. I must have written this code directly after some
 party I guess. I'll have a look at it today.
 
Ok, perhaps the code isn't that bad...now, both methods
(getGlobalBaseDatas and getGlobalDatas) are synchronized, so only one
thread can enter them and therefore only one thread can change the
corresponding objects. At the end of the method, the map is returned and
this return value is then used for the current user profile.
So, if now another thread is entering the getGlobalBaseDatas method and
overwriting the copletBaseDatas.objects value, the first user is not
affected as he is working on his copy. At least this is how I think it
should work. WDYT?

Carsten

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http://www.s-und-n.de
http://www.osoco.org/weblogs/rael/


Re: [RT] The Real Component Simplification

2006-01-05 Thread Daniel Fagerstrom

Carsten Ziegeler wrote:


Daniel Fagerstrom wrote:
 

Decomponentization could start right away. Do you have any concrete 
examples of components that shouldn't be components?


   


The XMLSerializer/XMLDeserializer combo is one of the best examples, I
think. These shouldn't be components. If noone objects I'll do the
changes for 2.2 - we already discussed this years ago :)

Carsten
 


+1

/Daniel



Re: XTech 2006 Amsterdam, May 16-19th

2006-01-05 Thread Daniel Fagerstrom

Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:


Arje Cahn wrote:


FYI, I'm on the technical review board of that conference.



Will you attend too?



Don't know, probably not, but I'll have to be in Sweden the week after 
that to given a keynote speech, so I might be able to stop by ;-)



What conference are you giving your keynote speach in?

/Daniel



Re: [RT] The Real Component Simplification

2006-01-05 Thread Sylvain Wallez

Carsten Ziegeler wrote:

Daniel Fagerstrom wrote:
  
Decomponentization could start right away. Do you have any concrete 
examples of components that shouldn't be components?


The XMLSerializer/XMLDeserializer combo is one of the best examples, I
think. These shouldn't be components.


Definitely!


If noone objects I'll do the changes for 2.2 - we already discussed this years 
ago :)
  


+1

Sylvain

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Apache Software Foundation Member Research  Technology Director



[M10N] Time to finish

2006-01-05 Thread Daniel Fagerstrom
It is time to finish the Mavenization. Jorg, others, what is left to do? 
We need a todo list so that we all can help finish it.


Jorg, you did some experimentation with flattening the structure, what 
was the result?


IMO, even if component management, blocks and next generation stuff are 
interesting, finish M10N should be our number one priority right now.


/Daniel



RE: [M10N] Time to finish

2006-01-05 Thread Reinhard Poetz

--- Daniel Fagerstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:

 It is time to finish the Mavenization. Jorg, others,
 what is left to do? 
 We need a todo list so that we all can help finish
 it.
 
 Jorg, you did some experimentation with flattening
 the structure, what 
 was the result?
 
 IMO, even if component management, blocks and next
 generation stuff are 
 interesting, finish M10N should be our number one
 priority right now.

Over Christmas I was working on the deployer. I hope
that I will be able to commit it next week. I will
also start to write a tutorial (hopefully Jorg can
help  me here a bit) describing the Cocoon 2.2
development process based on M2 so that we can discuss
it without even having the complete implementation. I
hope we can identify the rough edges this way and make
it easy for non-M2-specialists to join the discussion.

--
Reinhard








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[CForms] Move to postion

2006-01-05 Thread Thorsten Scherler
Hi all,

I would like to implement a row action move-to-position. 

We have already move-up and move-down, but I would like to move the row
to an user specific position. You have an input box (new-position) for
each row where you define the new position for the row.

I defined a new action MoveToPositionDefinition{} in the
RowActionDefinition based on MoveUpDefinition{} and my corresponding
form stuff.

Now my question is the following:
What is the best way to get the value of the new-position box in the
definition?

salu2
-- 
thorsten

Together we stand, divided we fall! 
Hey you (Pink Floyd)



Re: [CForms] Move to postion

2006-01-05 Thread Sylvain Wallez

Thorsten Scherler wrote:

Hi all,

I would like to implement a row action move-to-position. 


We have already move-up and move-down, but I would like to move the row
to an user specific position. You have an input box (new-position) for
each row where you define the new position for the row.
  


From a usability point of view, this looks a bit weird...

And as we speak, I'm working on drag'n drop reordering of repeater rows. 
Using DnD in tables is quirky (I understand now why Dojo and 
Scriptaculous demos are all list-based) but I'm progressing.



I defined a new action MoveToPositionDefinition{} in the
RowActionDefinition based on MoveUpDefinition{} and my corresponding
form stuff.

Now my question is the following:
What is the best way to get the value of the new-position box in the
definition?
  


I'm more and more thinking that a repeater needs to have child widgets 
that are not in rows, i.e. a repeater is a container for rows (which are 
themselves containers) _and_ other widgets, such as repeater actions.


Also, I think the selection must be a feature of the repeater, rather 
than through a boolean field that has to be manually added as of today. 
That would allow to define at the repeater level if selection is 
allowed, and if it single or multiple. Also that would allow to have 
repeater.getSelectedRows().


WDYT?

Sylvain

--
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http://bluxte.net http://www.anyware-tech.com
Apache Software Foundation Member Research  Technology Director



I'm lost...could we have more README files?

2006-01-05 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz

Hi devs,

I've been trying to keep up with what's happening in the trunk, without 
being able to invest continuous time here currently, and I must admit 
that I'm lost in several areas.


IMHO it's currently hard to find how to try out the following 
features/run modes/stuff:


-Build with Maven
-Blocks mode
-JMX features
-Development vs. deployment mode (IIRC Carsten has implemented 
something cool with properties)

-OSGI mode
-I might have forgotten other exciting stuff

Would it be possible for people working in these areas to create short 
README files in the trunk, and keep them up to date when something 
happens in that area?


There's already README.osgi, we could have README.maven, README.jmx, 
README.blockmode, etc..


My goal is to allow any of us to experiment with these new features 
even if they haven't followed them closely, by finding the necessary 
information, links, status etc. in one place.


So, I'd be thankful if people who work in these areas could keep us up 
to date in this way, so that we can share the excitment about these new 
features.


I know this ultimately belongs to some docs, but as these things are 
still evolving it's much easier to keep a single file up to date per 
feature/mode. If docs are here already, just put an link to them in the 
README file.


Thanks for listening ;-)

-Bertrand

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Re: [M10N] Time to finish

2006-01-05 Thread Daniel Fagerstrom

Reinhard Poetz wrote:


--- Daniel Fagerstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:

 


It is time to finish the Mavenization. Jorg, others,
what is left to do? 
We need a todo list so that we all can help finish

it.

Jorg, you did some experimentation with flattening
the structure, what 
was the result?


IMO, even if component management, blocks and next
generation stuff are 
interesting, finish M10N should be our number one

priority right now.
   



Over Christmas I was working on the deployer. I hope
that I will be able to commit it next week.


Sounds great!


I will
also start to write a tutorial (hopefully Jorg can
help  me here a bit) describing the Cocoon 2.2
development process based on M2 so that we can discuss
it without even having the complete implementation. I
hope we can identify the rough edges this way and make
it easy for non-M2-specialists to join the discussion.
 

Sounds great as well. But I'm more impatient ;) A deployer is AFAICS a 
new feature, my question is: what is the minimal amount of work we need 
to do to replace the current Ant build system with M2?


IIRC, all Cocoon with blocks included, where possible to build with M2 a 
couple of months ago. Now just the core is built from the main POM. What 
is needed for building everything and create a working webapp?


IMO, we should focus on switching to M2, ASAP. All new features can 
wait, the important thing is to get something that replaces the current 
build system.


It is time that we as a community takes responsibility for the M2 build. 
If there are some rough edges, or that the system sometimes becomes 
unstable, that is something that we have to deal with, we shouldn't wait 
for you and Jorg to finish and polish everything. A lot of people in our 
community have started to learn about using M2, and Jason and Bret 
seemed commited to help us if we run into problems when we talked to 
them during ApacheCon. We should, IMO, just switch ASAP and solve the 
problems as they come.


So, what would a minimal plan for switching be?

/Daniel



Re: [CForms] Move to postion

2006-01-05 Thread Thorsten Scherler
El jue, 05-01-2006 a las 11:26 +0100, Sylvain Wallez escribió:
 Thorsten Scherler wrote:
  Hi all,
 
  I would like to implement a row action move-to-position. 
 
  We have already move-up and move-down, but I would like to move the row
  to an user specific position. You have an input box (new-position) for
  each row where you define the new position for the row.

 
  From a usability point of view, this looks a bit weird...
 
 And as we speak, I'm working on drag'n drop reordering of repeater rows. 
 Using DnD in tables is quirky (I understand now why Dojo and 
 Scriptaculous demos are all list-based) but I'm progressing.

:) jeje very nice. :) 

Actually this would solve my usecase perfectly. My form is a nested
repeater. The user want to move the repeater rows to any given position
and not by clicking 20 times up. ;-)

When do you think it is ready to test. ;-)

 
  I defined a new action MoveToPositionDefinition{} in the
  RowActionDefinition based on MoveUpDefinition{} and my corresponding
  form stuff.
 
  Now my question is the following:
  What is the best way to get the value of the new-position box in the
  definition?

 
 I'm more and more thinking that a repeater needs to have child widgets 
 that are not in rows, 

Yes, I agree. In my use case I ended up to add tmp variable to the form
where it would have been easier to use child widgets directly.

 i.e. a repeater is a container for rows (which are 
 themselves containers) _and_ other widgets, such as repeater actions.
 

+1

 Also, I think the selection must be a feature of the repeater, rather 
 than through a boolean field that has to be manually added as of today. 

+1 makes the template lot cleaner

 That would allow to define at the repeater level if selection is 
 allowed, and if it single or multiple. Also that would allow to have 
 repeater.getSelectedRows().
 
 WDYT?

Yeah, very nice. 

Thanks Sylvain

salu2
-- 
thorsten

Together we stand, divided we fall! 
Hey you (Pink Floyd)



Re: [M10N] Time to finish

2006-01-05 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz

Le 5 janv. 06, à 11:40, Daniel Fagerstrom a écrit :

...IIRC, all Cocoon with blocks included, where possible to build with 
M2 a couple of months ago. Now just the core is built from the main 
POM. What is needed for building everything and create a working 
webapp?..


I haven't been able to test  the Maven stuff lately, but I'd like to 
mention that the HtmlUnit tests will need to run under Maven once 
they're ported to 2.2.


Currently in 2.1x you need to start an instance of Cocoon with 
cocoon.sh, and run another JVM with build.sh htmlunit-tests.


I've seen some code (from Daniel IIRC) fly by, which uses a more 
integrated testing method, starting the servlet under test in the same 
JVM, but I don't know what the preferred way is with Maven. Of course, 
the 2.1.x way of running these tests is not suitable to automated 
continuous integration.


Dunno how much impact this has on the Maven stuff, just wanted to make 
sure this is not forgotten. And if someone has pointers on how to do 
this the right way, I hope to find some time to port these tests to 
2.2. at some point.


-Bertrand


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Re: I'm lost...could we have more README files?

2006-01-05 Thread Daniel Fagerstrom

Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:


Hi devs,

I've been trying to keep up with what's happening in the trunk, 
without being able to invest continuous time here currently, and I 
must admit that I'm lost in several areas.


IMHO it's currently hard to find how to try out the following 
features/run modes/stuff:


-Build with Maven
-Blocks mode
-JMX features
-Development vs. deployment mode (IIRC Carsten has implemented 
something cool with properties)

-OSGI mode
-I might have forgotten other exciting stuff

Would it be possible for people working in these areas to create short 
README files in the trunk, and keep them up to date when something 
happens in that area?


There's already README.osgi,


And it actually worked when I tested it during ApacheCon ;)


we could have README.maven, README.jmx, README.blockmode, etc..


The block mode is currently in a state of flux. You could use Cocoon in 
blocks mode a month ago by running ./cocoon.sh blocks. That worked by 
making the root Processor pluggable in the CocoonServlet and using the 
BlocksManager instead of Cocoon.


To make that possible, I had to have a rather complicated initalization 
sequence for the blocks. After the NG discussions I decided to simplify 
the architecture by refactoring the block architecture so that the 
BlocksManager becomes a top level servlet instead. And so that the 
ServiceManager and Avalon context creation happen locally at the block 
level instead of globaly.


This is ongoing work and currently the blockmode is only usable from the 
test cases. But I hope to finish the refactoring soon and then I will 
write a README.blocksmode.


/Daniel



Re: I'm lost...could we have more README files?

2006-01-05 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz

Le 5 janv. 06, à 12:18, Daniel Fagerstrom a écrit :
...This is ongoing work and currently the blockmode is only usable 
from the test cases. But I hope to finish the refactoring soon and 
then I will write a README.blocksmode...


Thanks - I have added your explanation to README.blocksmode already, I 
hope you don't mind.


In this way people can find out there about the current state.

-Bertrand


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Re: [M10N] Time to finish

2006-01-05 Thread Jorg Heymans


Daniel Fagerstrom wrote:
 It is time to finish the Mavenization. Jorg, others, what is left to do?
 We need a todo list so that we all can help finish it.

I've lined out the (IMO) outstanding stuff here [1].

As said later in the thread, it depends on how far you want to take
this. m2 has been able to compile and (somewhat) package core for months
now.

My hesitation in pushing this forward mainly lies in the fact that it's
a change that affects *everybody*, and the less you know about maven the
more you'll perceive yourself being affected. I thought that waiting a
bit longer would give ppl more the chance to get up to speed with m2 in
general.


 Jorg, you did some experimentation with flattening the structure, what
 was the result?

It makes it much easier to manage, maintain and oversee the maven build
process. The experiment was very positive, you can still check out the
flat layout in the whiteboard and play around with it [2]. The benefits
towards componentisation are well known and accepted by everyone. In
short, i don't see any reason to keep the old structure.


If someone gives me the green light (again) and people are not afraid of
a bit of a bumpy ride in trunk for a while then I can start flattening
trunk *today* (as in __now__). Core, tests, mocks and a few of the more
used blocks are obvious candidates. We can decide about the blocks that
are externalized from branch later. Ofcourse I'll document the moving a
block to the flat structure process as well as i go along.


Regards
Jorg

[1] http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.text.xml.cocoon.devel/59180
[2] http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.text.xml.cocoon.devel/57694



Re: [M10N] Time to finish

2006-01-05 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Jorg Heymans wrote
 It makes it much easier to manage, maintain and oversee the maven build
 process. The experiment was very positive, you can still check out the
 flat layout in the whiteboard and play around with it [2]. The benefits
 towards componentisation are well known and accepted by everyone. In
 short, i don't see any reason to keep the old structure.
 
 
 If someone gives me the green light (again) and people are not afraid of
 a bit of a bumpy ride in trunk for a while then I can start flattening
 trunk *today* (as in __now__). Core, tests, mocks and a few of the more
 used blocks are obvious candidates. We can decide about the blocks that
 are externalized from branch later. Ofcourse I'll document the moving a
 block to the flat structure process as well as i go along.
 
+ (= green)

Carsten


Re: [M10N] Time to finish

2006-01-05 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz

Le 5 janv. 06, à 13:58, Jorg Heymans a écrit :

...If someone gives me the green light (again) and people are not 
afraid of

a bit of a bumpy ride in trunk for a while then I can start flattening
trunk *today* (as in __now__)...


I think this deserves a [VOTE], which is the best green light you can 
get.


I'm +1 of course...but would like a README.maven ;-)

-Bertrand


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Re: [M10N] Time to finish

2006-01-05 Thread Jorg Heymans

Daniel Fagerstrom wrote:

 Sounds great as well. But I'm more impatient ;) A deployer is AFAICS a
 new feature, my question is: what is the minimal amount of work we need
 to do to replace the current Ant build system with M2?

 IIRC, all Cocoon with blocks included, where possible to build with M2 a
 couple of months ago. Now just the core is built from the main POM. What
 is needed for building everything and create a working webapp?


that's because i've commented out the other modules in the root pom. I
fixed the webapp yesterday so that it runs again, i'll commit this now.
All you have to do from /webapp is war:inplace and point jetty to the
root of the webapp.


 IMO, we should focus on switching to M2, ASAP. All new features can
 wait, the important thing is to get something that replaces the current
 build system.

+1

 It is time that we as a community takes responsibility for the M2 build.

+1000

 If there are some rough edges, or that the system sometimes becomes
 unstable, that is something that we have to deal with, we shouldn't wait
 for you and Jorg to finish and polish everything. A lot of people in our
 community have started to learn about using M2, and Jason and Bret
 seemed commited to help us if we run into problems when we talked to
 them during ApacheCon. We should, IMO, just switch ASAP and solve the
 problems as they come.
 


 So, what would a minimal plan for switching be?

IMO just to start flattening the trunk, things will become easier to
manage and ppl can more easily participate in the m2 build process.
Getting the webapp to run automatic block deployment is not needed for
switching IMO, people can initially just copy the stuff manually.


Regards,
Jorg



Re: [M10N] Time to finish

2006-01-05 Thread Daniel Fagerstrom

Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:


Le 5 janv. 06, à 11:40, Daniel Fagerstrom a écrit :

...IIRC, all Cocoon with blocks included, where possible to build 
with M2 a couple of months ago. Now just the core is built from the 
main POM. What is needed for building everything and create a working 
webapp?..



I haven't been able to test  the Maven stuff lately, but I'd like to 
mention that the HtmlUnit tests will need to run under Maven once 
they're ported to 2.2.


Currently in 2.1x you need to start an instance of Cocoon with 
cocoon.sh, and run another JVM with build.sh htmlunit-tests.


I've seen some code (from Daniel IIRC) fly by, which uses a more 
integrated testing method, starting the servlet under test in the same 
JVM,


I have used functional testing at the Processor level for developing 
virtual sitemap components and blocks (o.a.c.test.SitemapTestCase). Now 
when I'm refactoring the block architecture to use Servlet instead of 
Processor I'm using ServletUnit from HttpUnit instead 
(o.a.c.test.ServletTestCase). Unfortunally ServletUnit sucks for my 
needs. It is rather inflexible in the setup, the code is complicated for 
what it does (might be coupled to needs in HttpUnit) and it silently 
swallow all servlet log messages and internal stack traces. So when 
things go wrong during development there are signs on what happened :/


IMO we need functional tests on the controller level, especially if we 
are going to make controllers first class citicens. For ServletUnit we 
either need to fix it so that it gives decent log messages and stack 
traces or develop our own.


but I don't know what the preferred way is with Maven. Of course, the 
2.1.x way of running these tests is not suitable to automated 
continuous integration.


I have found it very practical to test Processor and Servlet in an 
embeded environment. Something similar is possible for HtmlUnit, it 
has a hook (which is documented as unstable and for internal use :/ ) so 
that one can connect it directly to a Processor or Servlet (with 
appropriate environment setup) in the same VM.



Dunno how much impact this has on the Maven stuff,


We should start by replacing Ant, new features can be added later.

just wanted to make sure this is not forgotten. And if someone has 
pointers on how to do this the right way, I hope to find some time to 
port these tests to 2.2. at some point.


Great! I don't know the right way, but I certainly have opinions ;)

/Daniel



Re: [RT] The Real Component Simplification

2006-01-05 Thread Vadim Gritsenko

Berin Loritsch wrote:

Daniel Fagerstrom wrote:

Decomponentization could start right away. Do you have any concrete 
examples of components that shouldn't be components?


Pipeline (sure we have two implementations, but that doesn't mean it has 
to be a component)


Five implementations. And I imagine after interface cleanup and for pipeline 
API, pipeline should stay component.




URL interpretation


?


Just about anything that is not a Processor, Generator, Transformer, 
Serializer, or Reader.


You forgot Matchers, Selectors, and Actions. Every but small projects have bunch 
of those.


Stores. Swapped very frequently, several implementations, and Cocoon's default 
is not the fastest gun in the west.


Input/output modules. Tons of them.

It is very simplistic view of the world to declare that only P/G/T deserve to be 
components. I'd even go as far as claim that P/G/T are implemented by cocoon 
users the *least* often compared to other interfaces.


Vadim



As to Processors, I see the following implementations:
1. current sitemap--complete with its matchers, selectors, actions, and 
tree processor

2. rails-like router

The others are planned extension points that several people have written 
solutions for.




Re: [RT] The Real Component Simplification

2006-01-05 Thread Vadim Gritsenko

Daniel Fagerstrom wrote:

Carsten Ziegeler wrote:


Daniel Fagerstrom wrote:
 
Decomponentization could start right away. Do you have any concrete 
examples of components that shouldn't be components?


  
The XMLSerializer/XMLDeserializer combo is one of the best examples, I

think. These shouldn't be components. If noone objects I'll do the
changes for 2.2 - we already discussed this years ago :)

Carsten
 


+1


+1

Vadim



Re: I'm lost...could we have more README files?

2006-01-05 Thread Jorg Heymans

Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:

 -Build with Maven

Good point, I'll create a README.maven in root with enough stuff in it
to get people going.


 Thanks for listening ;-)

Thanks for bringing this up!


Jorg



Re: [M10N] Time to finish

2006-01-05 Thread Jorg Heymans

Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:

 
 I haven't been able to test  the Maven stuff lately, but I'd like to
 mention that the HtmlUnit tests will need to run under Maven once
 they're ported to 2.2.


yes i noticed this yesterday when i tried to compile the tests again.

Htmlunit has bad poms on ibiblio so we'll have to upload it to cvs.a.o
ourselves again.


 I've seen some code (from Daniel IIRC) fly by, which uses a more
 integrated testing method, starting the servlet under test in the same
 JVM, but I don't know what the preferred way is with Maven. Of course,
 the 2.1.x way of running these tests is not suitable to automated
 continuous integration.
 
 Dunno how much impact this has on the Maven stuff, just wanted to make
 sure this is not forgotten. And if someone has pointers on how to do
 this the right way, I hope to find some time to port these tests to 2.2.
 at some point.
 

It doesn't impact the maven stuff as such. I'ld say we leave those tests
out for now and worry about how to run them later.


Regards
Jorg



Re: [CForms] Move to postion

2006-01-05 Thread Sylvain Wallez

Thorsten Scherler wrote:

El jue, 05-01-2006 a las 11:26 +0100, Sylvain Wallez escribió:
  

Thorsten Scherler wrote:


Hi all,

I would like to implement a row action move-to-position. 


We have already move-up and move-down, but I would like to move the row
to an user specific position. You have an input box (new-position) for
each row where you define the new position for the row.
  
  

 From a usability point of view, this looks a bit weird...

And as we speak, I'm working on drag'n drop reordering of repeater rows. 
Using DnD in tables is quirky (I understand now why Dojo and 
Scriptaculous demos are all list-based) but I'm progressing.



:) jeje very nice. :) 


Actually this would solve my usecase perfectly. My form is a nested
repeater. The user want to move the repeater rows to any given position
and not by clicking 20 times up. ;-)

When do you think it is ready to test. ;-)
  


This is part of a set of Ajax goodies that have to be finished 1st half 
of February. But expect them to land incrementally in the repository 
until then :-)


Sylvain

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http://bluxte.net http://www.anyware-tech.com
Apache Software Foundation Member Research  Technology Director



Re: [M10N] Time to finish

2006-01-05 Thread Daniel Fagerstrom

Jorg Heymans wrote:


Daniel Fagerstrom wrote:
 


It is time to finish the Mavenization. Jorg, others, what is left to do?
We need a todo list so that we all can help finish it.
   



I've lined out the (IMO) outstanding stuff here [1].
 

Only the flattening seem to be necessary in a first step, the rest can 
be done later.



As said later in the thread, it depends on how far you want to take
this. m2 has been able to compile and (somewhat) package core for months
now.

My hesitation in pushing this forward mainly lies in the fact that it's
a change that affects *everybody*, and the less you know about maven the
more you'll perceive yourself being affected. I thought that waiting a
bit longer would give ppl more the chance to get up to speed with m2 in
general.
 

Sometimes some pushing is necessary. Furthermore it seem like most of 
the more active developers allready have done their hoework concerning 
M2, and the rest will feel motivated when we switch ;)



Jorg, you did some experimentation with flattening the structure, what
was the result?
   


It makes it much easier to manage, maintain and oversee the maven build
process. The experiment was very positive, you can still check out the
flat layout in the whiteboard and play around with it [2]. The benefits
towards componentisation are well known and accepted by everyone. In
short, i don't see any reason to keep the old structure.

If someone gives me the green light (again)


Start a vote rigth away, you have my +1.


and people are not afraid of
a bit of a bumpy ride in trunk for a while then I can start flattening
trunk *today* (as in __now__). Core, tests, mocks and a few of the more
used blocks are obvious candidates. We can decide about the blocks that
are externalized from branch later. Ofcourse I'll document the moving a
block to the flat structure process as well as i go along.
 


Great!

/Daniel


[1] http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.text.xml.cocoon.devel/59180
[2] http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.text.xml.cocoon.devel/57694
 



Re: I'm lost...could we have more README files?

2006-01-05 Thread Daniel Fagerstrom

Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:


Le 5 janv. 06, à 12:18, Daniel Fagerstrom a écrit :

...This is ongoing work and currently the blockmode is only usable 
from the test cases. But I hope to finish the refactoring soon and 
then I will write a README.blocksmode...



Thanks - I have added your explanation to README.blocksmode already, I 
hope you don't mind.


Rather the opposite :) Thanks.

/Daniel



[VOTE] green light for flattening repo structure in trunk

2006-01-05 Thread Jorg Heymans
In line of the ongoing M10N process I would like to call a vote for
starting the work to flatten the trunk repo structure.

Main points to note :

 It makes it much easier to manage, maintain and oversee the maven build
 process. The experiment was very positive, you can still check out the
 flat layout in the whiteboard and play around with it [2]. The benefits
 towards componentisation are well known and accepted by everyone. In
 short, i don't see any reason to keep the old structure.

and

 ... 
 it's a change that affects *everybody*, and the less you know about maven the
 more you'll perceive yourself being affected. I thought that waiting a
 bit longer would give ppl more the chance to get up to speed with m2 in
 general. 

and

 If someone gives me the green light (again) and people are not afraid of
 a bit of a bumpy ride in trunk for a while then I can start flattening
 trunk *today* (as in __now__). Core, tests, mocks and a few of the more
 used blocks are obvious candidates. We can decide about the blocks that
 are externalized from branch later. Ofcourse I'll document the moving a
 block to the flat structure process as well as i go along.

Please cast your votes :

[ ] flatten the structure and pave the way for a 2.2 release
[ ] no because 


Thanks
Jorg



Re: GroupBasedProfileManager

2006-01-05 Thread Berin Loritsch

Carsten Ziegeler wrote:


Ok, perhaps the code isn't that bad...now, both methods
(getGlobalBaseDatas and getGlobalDatas) are synchronized, so only one
thread can enter them and therefore only one thread can change the
corresponding objects. At the end of the method, the map is returned and
this return value is then used for the current user profile.
So, if now another thread is entering the getGlobalBaseDatas method and
overwriting the copletBaseDatas.objects value, the first user is not
affected as he is working on his copy. At least this is how I think it
should work. WDYT?
 



Without looking at the code it sounds like what you have here is 
something like this:


getGlobalDatas()
{
   data = getGlobalBaseDatas()
   doSomethingWith( data )
   return data
}

If that is the case (i.e. getGlobalDatas always starts with a copy of 
the base datas), then only the getGlobalBaseDatas should be 
synchronized.  That avoids two different threads synchronizing on the 
same monitor because they are accessing different threads.  It keeps the 
length of holding the monitor at its minimum.




Re: [VOTE] green light for flattening repo structure in trunk

2006-01-05 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz

Le 5 janv. 06, à 14:52, Jorg Heymans a écrit :

...Please cast your votes :

[ +1] flatten the structure and pave the way for a 2.2 release
[ ] no because 


-Bertrand


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Re: [RT] The Real Component Simplification

2006-01-05 Thread Berin Loritsch

Vadim Gritsenko wrote:


Berin Loritsch wrote:


Daniel Fagerstrom wrote:

Decomponentization could start right away. Do you have any 
concrete examples of components that shouldn't be components?



Pipeline (sure we have two implementations, but that doesn't mean it 
has to be a component)



Five implementations. And I imagine after interface cleanup and for 
pipeline API, pipeline should stay component.


Not necessarily.  Just because there are multiple implementations 
doesn't necessarily mean it is a component--or should be a component.  
There are some useful things we can do with a Pipeline such as using the 
Decorator pattern as opposed to inheritance to add features.  Or we 
could use other OO tricks that just aren't possible or too difficult in 
a component environment.



URL interpretation

?


SourceResolver and company



Just about anything that is not a Processor, Generator, Transformer, 
Serializer, or Reader.



You forgot Matchers, Selectors, and Actions. Every but small projects 
have bunch of those.


No, I left them out on purpose.  Those are elements of the 
Sitemap--which is an implementation of the Processor.


Stores. Swapped very frequently, several implementations, and Cocoon's 
default is not the fastest gun in the west.


Ok.  That works.



Input/output modules. Tons of them.


:/  I think that there are some better ways of dealing with this...  But 
it is an extension point that is useful.




It is very simplistic view of the world to declare that only P/G/T 
deserve to be components. I'd even go as far as claim that P/G/T are 
implemented by cocoon users the *least* often compared to other 
interfaces.


Well, as da Vinci said, Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication.  
The key point of the decomponentization process is to reduce the number 
of extension points to the absolute practical minimum.


By being brave about what we leave out, it forces us to think 
differently about other aspects of the system.  I'm thinking way forward 
here.




Re: [VOTE] green light for flattening repo structure in trunk

2006-01-05 Thread Sylvain Wallez

Jorg Heymans wrote:

Please cast your votes :

[X] flatten the structure and pave the way for a 2.2 release
[ ] no because 
  


And thanks for the hard work!

Sylvain

--
Sylvain WallezAnyware Technologies
http://bluxte.net http://www.anyware-tech.com
Apache Software Foundation Member Research  Technology Director



Re: [VOTE] green light for flattening repo structure in trunk

2006-01-05 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
...Please cast your votes :

[ +1] flatten the structure and pave the way for a 2.2 release
[ ] no because 

Carsten
-- 
Carsten Ziegeler - Open Source Group, SN AG
http://www.s-und-n.de
http://www.osoco.org/weblogs/rael/


Re: GroupBasedProfileManager

2006-01-05 Thread Ralph Goers
Yes, you are correct.  Too late at night. I missed the 
synchronized(this) in the methods.  Out of curiosity (not that it makes 
any difference), why aren't the methods just synchronized?


Carsten Ziegeler wrote:


Carsten Ziegeler schrieb:
 


Ralph Goers wrote:

   

After looking at the AuthenticationProfileManager code I decided to 
review the GroupBasedProfileManager. While I'm happy to see the 
read/write lock stuff gone it seems that getGlobalBaseDatas and 
getGlobalDatas could have a race condition if two threads run at the 
same time.  Both threads could very well create the CopletBaseData or 
worse getGlobalBaseDatas might clear copletDatas.object right after the 
other thread has set it in getGlobalDatas.


 


Argh, you're right - now, the methods are synchronized...but obviously
that doesn't help. I must have written this code directly after some
party I guess. I'll have a look at it today.

   


Ok, perhaps the code isn't that bad...now, both methods
(getGlobalBaseDatas and getGlobalDatas) are synchronized, so only one
thread can enter them and therefore only one thread can change the
corresponding objects. At the end of the method, the map is returned and
this return value is then used for the current user profile.
So, if now another thread is entering the getGlobalBaseDatas method and
overwriting the copletBaseDatas.objects value, the first user is not
affected as he is working on his copy. At least this is how I think it
should work. WDYT?

Carsten

 



RE: [VOTE] green light for flattening repo structure in trunk

2006-01-05 Thread Matthew Langham

 [+1 ] flatten the structure and pave the way for a 2.2 release 
 [ ] no because 
 

Go for it.

Matthew



Re: GroupBasedProfileManager

2006-01-05 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Ralph Goers wrote:
 Yes, you are correct.  Too late at night. I missed the 
 synchronized(this) in the methods.  Out of curiosity (not that it makes 
 any difference), why aren't the methods just synchronized?
 
Hmm, yes, I asked myself the same question, but got no response :( I
guess I did this because of inheritance. You can create a subclass
overwrite the method and then only synchronize the block inside the
method which really needs syncing.

-- 
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http://www.s-und-n.de
http://www.osoco.org/weblogs/rael/


Re: [VOTE] green light for flattening repo structure in trunk

2006-01-05 Thread Ralph Goers



Jorg Heymans wrote:


In line of the ongoing M10N process I would like to call a vote for
starting the work to flatten the trunk repo structure.

 



Please cast your votes :

[+1] flatten the structure and pave the way for a 2.2 release
 


Ralph


Re: [VOTE] green light for flattening repo structure in trunk

2006-01-05 Thread Daniel Fagerstrom

Please cast your votes :

[ +1 ] flatten the structure and pave the way for a 2.2 release
[ ] no because 


/Daniel


RE: [VOTE] green light for flattening repo structure in trunk

2006-01-05 Thread Max Pfingsthorn
 ...Please cast your votes :

 [ +1] flatten the structure and pave the way for a 2.2 release
 [ ] no because 

Max


Re: [RT] The Real Component Simplification

2006-01-05 Thread Giacomo Pati

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To: dev@cocoon.apache.org
Subject: Re: [RT] The Real Component Simplification

Daniel Fagerstrom wrote:


Decomponentization could start right away. Do you have any concrete
examples of components that shouldn't be components?


The XMLSerializer/XMLDeserializer combo is one of the best examples, I
think. These shouldn't be components. If noone objects I'll do the
changes for 2.2 - we already discussed this years ago :)


+1

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Re: [VOTE] green light for flattening repo structure in trunk

2006-01-05 Thread Vadim Gritsenko

Jorg Heymans wrote:

[ +1 ] flatten the structure and pave the way for a 2.2 release




Minor point: does it have to be 'cocoon-core', 'cocoon-webapp', 
'cocoon-blockname'; could it be 'core', 'webapp', 'block-blockname'? Not 
sure it will be easy to navigate among all those 'cocoon-foo's :)



Vadim


Re: [VOTE] green light for flattening repo structure in trunk

2006-01-05 Thread Jorg Heymans

 [X] flatten the structure and pave the way for a 2.2 release
 [ ] no because 



Re: [M10N] Time to finish

2006-01-05 Thread Giacomo Pati

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On Thu, 5 Jan 2006, Jorg Heymans wrote:


It makes it much easier to manage, maintain and oversee the maven build
process. The experiment was very positive, you can still check out the
flat layout in the whiteboard and play around with it [2]. The benefits
towards componentisation are well known and accepted by everyone. In
short, i don't see any reason to keep the old structure.


If someone gives me the green light (again) and people are not afraid of
a bit of a bumpy ride in trunk for a while then I can start flattening
trunk *today* (as in __now__). Core, tests, mocks and a few of the more
used blocks are obvious candidates. We can decide about the blocks that
are externalized from branch later. Ofcourse I'll document the moving a
block to the flat structure process as well as i go along.


+1

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Otego AG, Switzerland - http://www.otego.com
Orixo, the XML business alliance - http://www.orixo.com
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Re: [RT] The Real Component Simplification

2006-01-05 Thread Vadim Gritsenko

Berin Loritsch wrote:

Vadim Gritsenko wrote:


Berin Loritsch wrote:

Pipeline (sure we have two implementations, but that doesn't mean it 
has to be a component)


Five implementations. And I imagine after interface cleanup and for 
pipeline API, pipeline should stay component.


Not necessarily.  Just because there are multiple implementations 
doesn't necessarily mean it is a component--or should be a component.  
There are some useful things we can do with a Pipeline such as using the 
Decorator pattern as opposed to inheritance to add features.  Or we 
could use other OO tricks that just aren't possible or too difficult in 
a component environment.


May be



URL interpretation

?


SourceResolver and company


It proved to be very valuable extension point


Just about anything that is not a Processor, Generator, Transformer, 
Serializer, or Reader.


You forgot Matchers, Selectors, and Actions. Every but small projects 
have bunch of those.


No, I left them out on purpose.  Those are elements of the 
Sitemap--which is an implementation of the Processor.


Stores. Swapped very frequently, several implementations, and Cocoon's 
default is not the fastest gun in the west.


Ok.  That works.



Input/output modules. Tons of them.


:/  I think that there are some better ways of dealing with this...  But 
it is an extension point that is useful.


Unified object model and expression language could replace many of those.


It is very simplistic view of the world to declare that only P/G/T 
deserve to be components. I'd even go as far as claim that P/G/T are 
implemented by cocoon users the *least* often compared to other 
interfaces.


Well, as da Vinci said, Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication.  
The key point of the decomponentization process is to reduce the number 
of extension points to the absolute practical minimum.


By being brave about what we leave out, it forces us to think 
differently about other aspects of the system.  I'm thinking way forward 
here.


Just don't throw out baby in the heat of fight for simplification :)

Vadim


Re: [VOTE] green light for flattening repo structure in trunk

2006-01-05 Thread Giacomo Pati

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[X] flatten the structure and pave the way for a 2.2 release
[ ] no because 

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Re: [VOTE] green light for flattening repo structure in trunk

2006-01-05 Thread Gianugo Rabellino
On 1/5/06, Jorg Heymans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 [+1 ] flatten the structure and pave the way for a 2.2 release
 [ ] no because 

And thanks for taking care of that!

--
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Re: [VOTE] green light for flattening repo structure in trunk

2006-01-05 Thread Daniel Fagerstrom

Vadim Gritsenko skrev:
...
Minor point: does it have to be 'cocoon-core', 'cocoon-webapp', 
'cocoon-blockname'; could it be 'core', 'webapp', 'block-blockname'? 
Not sure it will be easy to navigate among all those 'cocoon-foo's :)


Agree, M2 repositories provide hierarchial group id's: org.apache.cocoon 
e.g. So there is no need for globally unique artifact id's anymore.


/Daniel



Re: [VOTE] green light for flattening repo structure in trunk

2006-01-05 Thread Jorg Heymans

Vadim Gritsenko wrote:
 Jorg Heymans wrote:
 [ +1 ] flatten the structure and pave the way for a 2.2 release
 
 
 
 Minor point: does it have to be 'cocoon-core', 'cocoon-webapp',
 'cocoon-blockname'; could it be 'core', 'webapp', 'block-blockname'?
 Not sure it will be easy to navigate among all those 'cocoon-foo's :)
 

Matching the directory name with the artifactId is recommended practice.
I can't exactly remember the benefits, but i know it saves extra
configuration in reactor builds eg when using continuum.


Jorg



Re: [VOTE] green light for flattening repo structure in trunk

2006-01-05 Thread Jean-Baptiste Quenot
My account is not yet created, but please accept my vote:

[X] flatten the structure and pave the way for a 2.2 release
[ ] no because 
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Systèmes d'Information
ANYWARE TECHNOLOGIES
Tel : +33 (0)5 61 00 52 90
Fax : +33 (0)5 61 00 51 46
http://www.anyware-tech.com/


Re: [vote] Jean-Baptiste Quenot as new Cocoon committer (was Re: Problem with CachingPointProcessingPipeline)

2006-01-05 Thread Jean-Baptiste Quenot
Thank you everyone!

This new  year is starting very  nicely, and it's good  to receive
this  sign of  trust from  all of  you, after  the hard  work done
lately with and within Cocoon.

For those who may not have noticed, I work for a [1]french company
called  « Anyware Technologies »  designing web-based  information
systems, which  Sylvain Wallez  co-founded a  few years  ago.  I'm
bothering him  on a regular  basis to ask questions  about Cocoon,
and to request  « hacks to make it work ».   Hopefully things will
get better for  both of us, as impatience and  boredom was growing
at the same rate as the [2]patch queue, until now.

It's the first time for me to become a committer on an Open-Source
project,  however  I  have  contributed to  some  pieces  of  OSS:
Bash/Zsh  completion, Resin,  eXist, and  especially FreeBSD  (for
which I  maintain the Cocoon,  Resin, JMeter and  [3]other ports).
I'm an adept of OSS since about  10 years (after being an adept of
Macintosh), I also made some lectures at the [4]local LUG.

Apart  from business  projects,  I have  a  [5]personal home  page
powered by Cocoon, a  Cocoon-and-AJAX-based portal (I will prepare
a  demo  when  Sylvain  has  the new  Dojo  stuff  ready),  and  a
Cocoon-based  photo  gallery (no  demo  is  available yet).   Good
candidates for inclusion in the Cocoon samples, I will keep you in
touch.

I live near  Toulouse France with my family since  two years after
spending 24  years in  Paris (guess  how old I  am).  Life  in the
countryside is very  peaceful, however I will move to  the city in
february, so that I can have at last a decent Internet connection.
Our hens will move as well,  provided they can be satisfied by the
little garden (16 times smaller!).

Back to Cocoon: in the short term, I have a lot of small fixes and
enhancements  to offer.   In  the  long term,  let's  see what  we
can  do together  (revolution  or evolution)  before Java/XML  web
applications become legacy ;-)

Thanks again,
-- 
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Systèmes d'Information
ANYWARE TECHNOLOGIES
Tel : +33 (0)5 61 00 52 90
Fax : +33 (0)5 61 00 51 46
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Re: [RT] The Real Component Simplification

2006-01-05 Thread Berin Loritsch

Vadim Gritsenko wrote:




URL interpretation

?



SourceResolver and company



It proved to be very valuable extension point


I'm not negating that, however the way it is currently implemented makes 
it difficult to use at times.  Again there are different ways of 
skinning this particular cat that would be more efficient.


I do recall why we didn't try to use Java's own URL component 
framework.  It really wasn't due to complexity of getting the 
URLStreamHandlers to communicate with Cocoon.  It was due to the fact 
that some web containers like BEA WebLogic and IBM WebSphere preset the 
static instance of URLStreamHandlerFactory, making it impossible for us 
to override it.  I don't recall if we tested extending where the 
URLStreamHandlers are located using the |java.protocol.handler.pkgs 
system property.


The advantage of using Java's extension mechanism here is that we would 
be able to use our cocoon:// URLs inside of FOP and any other library 
that relies on URLs.  If we don't rely on components for the core of 
Cocoon, then we have more flexibility on improving this point.

|

It is very simplistic view of the world to declare that only P/G/T 
deserve to be components. I'd even go as far as claim that P/G/T are 
implemented by cocoon users the *least* often compared to other 
interfaces.



Well, as da Vinci said, Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication.  
The key point of the decomponentization process is to reduce the 
number of extension points to the absolute practical minimum.


By being brave about what we leave out, it forces us to think 
differently about other aspects of the system.  I'm thinking way 
forward here.



Just don't throw out baby in the heat of fight for simplification :)



Right.  Although just because something is an extension point does not 
mean it has to necessarily be a component.




[jira] Commented: (COCOON-1709) Speedup portal loading

2006-01-05 Thread Jean-Baptiste Quenot (JIRA)
[ 
http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COCOON-1709?page=comments#action_12361855 
] 

Jean-Baptiste Quenot commented on COCOON-1709:
--

You say they should be cached by Cocoon... but AFAICT there's no cache 
involved here as I'm not using cocoon://.  But even if using cocoon:// for 
loading profiles, it would not take 450ms (600-150) to execute, as we're always 
processing them through Castor.

You say you don't always see [your] updates either: does it mean that there 
is some caching involved?  If yes, where?  Is it castor?
I intend to drop my patch, but I want to understand why only the first loading 
takes longer since you have committed your patch.

 Speedup portal loading
 --

  Key: COCOON-1709
  URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COCOON-1709
  Project: Cocoon
 Type: Improvement
   Components: Blocks: Portal
 Versions: 2.1.9-dev (current SVN)
 Reporter: Jean-Baptiste Quenot
  Attachments: 20051212-portal-MapProfileLS, 20051222-MapProfileLS.java, 
 20051222-MapProfileLS.java, UserRoleSourceFactory.java, portal-config

 Portal loads user profiles (when using eg AuthenticationProfileManager) with 
 Castor every time the user logs in and this is very slow.  This patch allows 
 to cache the result for further invocations.  However the coplet instance 
 profiles are handled in a special way, after being obtained by mapping the 
 CopletInstanceDataManager they are cloned to ensure that every user gets its 
 own copy of the coplets.  Thus this bug depends on 
 http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COCOON-1708 Allow 
 CopletInstanceDataManager to be cloneable.
 An improvement would be to store cached objects in Cocoon Store, the provided 
 patch currently uses a simple HashMap to store profiles.  Note that the key 
 of the object is the URI returned by the source.  This is important because 
 different values of uri in resolver.resolveURI(uri) could return the same 
 source, ie source.getURI() could be the same, so only different objects are 
 stored in the Map.

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Re: [jira] Commented: (COCOON-1709) Speedup portal loading

2006-01-05 Thread Jean-Baptiste Quenot
* Jean-Baptiste Quenot (JIRA):

 Ralph, I don't  know why I don't get notified  of your comments,
 not even on cocoon-dev.

Ralph,  have  you  allowed  « public  comments »  when  posting  a
followup?

Is it possible  that one of the Jira experts  can tell why Ralph's
comments are not notified by email?

Thanks in advance,
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Re: [vote] Jean-Baptiste Quenot as new Cocoon committer (was Re: Problem with CachingPointProcessingPipeline)

2006-01-05 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz

Le 5 janv. 06, à 16:34, Jean-Baptiste Quenot a écrit :


...Back to Cocoon: in the short term, I have a lot of small fixes and
enhancements  to offer.   In  the  long term,  let's  see what  we
can  do together  (revolution  or evolution)  before Java/XML  web
applications become legacy ;-)


Sounds like a plan!
Thanks for your introduction and welcome!

-Bertrand


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Re: [VOTE] green light for flattening repo structure in trunk

2006-01-05 Thread Reinhard Poetz

Jorg Heymans wrote:


Please cast your votes :

[X] flatten the structure and pave the way for a 2.2 release
[ ] no because 


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Re: [jira] Commented: (COCOON-1709) Speedup portal loading

2006-01-05 Thread Ralph Goers
When I post comments the comment viewable by setting is all users.  Is
there another setting you are referring to?


Jean-Baptiste Quenot said:
 * Jean-Baptiste Quenot (JIRA):

 Ralph, I don't  know why I don't get notified  of your comments,
 not even on cocoon-dev.

 Ralph,  have  you  allowed  « public  comments »  when  posting  a
 followup?

 Is it possible  that one of the Jira experts  can tell why Ralph's
 comments are not notified by email?

 Thanks in advance,
 --
 Jean-Baptiste Quenot
 Systèmes d'Information
 ANYWARE TECHNOLOGIES
 Tel : +33 (0)5 61 00 52 90
 Fax : +33 (0)5 61 00 51 46
 http://www.anyware-tech.com/




Re: [VOTE] green light for flattening repo structure in trunk

2006-01-05 Thread Antonio Gallardo

Please cast your votes :

[+1 ] flatten the structure and pave the way for a 2.2 release

Best Regards,

Antonio Gallardo.



Re: [VOTE] green light for flattening repo structure in trunk

2006-01-05 Thread Antonio Gallardo

Jorg Heymans wrote:


Vadim Gritsenko wrote:
 


Jorg Heymans wrote:
   


[ +1 ] flatten the structure and pave the way for a 2.2 release
 



Minor point: does it have to be 'cocoon-core', 'cocoon-webapp',
'cocoon-blockname'; could it be 'core', 'webapp', 'block-blockname'?
Not sure it will be easy to navigate among all those 'cocoon-foo's :)

   



Matching the directory name with the artifactId is recommended practice.
I can't exactly remember the benefits, but i know it saves extra
configuration in reactor builds eg when using continuum.
 

Should not be due name collision. ie: a core.jar released in another 
project?
Yes, I will prefer to keep a prefixed name as cocoon-core.jar. No matter 
where we find this file, his names states it is the cocoon core.


Best Regards,

Antonio Gallardo.



Re: [VOTE] green light for flattening repo structure in trunk

2006-01-05 Thread Vadim Gritsenko

Antonio Gallardo wrote:

Jorg Heymans wrote:


Vadim Gritsenko wrote:
 

Jorg Heymans wrote:
  

[ +1 ] flatten the structure and pave the way for a 2.2 release


Minor point: does it have to be 'cocoon-core', 'cocoon-webapp',
'cocoon-blockname'; could it be 'core', 'webapp', 'block-blockname'?
Not sure it will be easy to navigate among all those 'cocoon-foo's :)
  


Matching the directory name with the artifactId is recommended practice.
I can't exactly remember the benefits, but i know it saves extra
configuration in reactor builds eg when using continuum.
 

Should not be due name collision. ie: a core.jar released in another 
project?
Yes, I will prefer to keep a prefixed name as cocoon-core.jar. No matter 
where we find this file, his names states it is the cocoon core.



I was talking about directory name only. cocoon-core.jar is fine.

Vadim



[jira] Closed: (COCOON-1709) Speedup portal loading

2006-01-05 Thread Jean-Baptiste Quenot (JIRA)
 [ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COCOON-1709?page=all ]
 
Jean-Baptiste Quenot closed COCOON-1709:


Resolution: Won't Fix

Thank you Ralph,

The following modification that you made in Cocoon Portal speeds up portal 
loading a lot, thus my patch is not needed anymore:

Change from auto-naming=deriveByClass to matches attribute for performance 
improvement
http://svn.apache.org/viewcvs?rev=360596view=rev

This issue is closed.

 Speedup portal loading
 --

  Key: COCOON-1709
  URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COCOON-1709
  Project: Cocoon
 Type: Improvement
   Components: Blocks: Portal
 Versions: 2.1.9-dev (current SVN)
 Reporter: Jean-Baptiste Quenot
  Attachments: 20051212-portal-MapProfileLS, 20051222-MapProfileLS.java, 
 20051222-MapProfileLS.java, UserRoleSourceFactory.java, portal-config

 Portal loads user profiles (when using eg AuthenticationProfileManager) with 
 Castor every time the user logs in and this is very slow.  This patch allows 
 to cache the result for further invocations.  However the coplet instance 
 profiles are handled in a special way, after being obtained by mapping the 
 CopletInstanceDataManager they are cloned to ensure that every user gets its 
 own copy of the coplets.  Thus this bug depends on 
 http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COCOON-1708 Allow 
 CopletInstanceDataManager to be cloneable.
 An improvement would be to store cached objects in Cocoon Store, the provided 
 patch currently uses a simple HashMap to store profiles.  Note that the key 
 of the object is the URI returned by the source.  This is important because 
 different values of uri in resolver.resolveURI(uri) could return the same 
 source, ie source.getURI() could be the same, so only different objects are 
 stored in the Map.

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[VOTE] preliminary wrap-up

2006-01-05 Thread Jorg Heymans
OK, so unless someone vetoes this the next few hours i will start
shifting files about around 11pm CET today.

It would be great if people could refrain from checking stuff into
trunk/core from then onwards until i've finished. It will take a good
few hours, i'll notify when it is done.


also : should we make some sort of backup first or is everything fully
reversible from the svn command line ? Just to be on the safe side ...



Jorg







Re: [VOTE] preliminary wrap-up

2006-01-05 Thread Reinhard Poetz

Jorg Heymans wrote:

OK, so unless someone vetoes this the next few hours i will start
shifting files about around 11pm CET today.

It would be great if people could refrain from checking stuff into
trunk/core from then onwards until i've finished. It will take a good
few hours, i'll notify when it is done.


also : should we make some sort of backup first or is everything fully
reversible from the svn command line ? Just to be on the safe side ...


no backup is required as svn stores the complete history.

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{Software Engineering, Open Source, Web Applications, Apache Cocoon}

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Re: [VOTE] preliminary wrap-up

2006-01-05 Thread Berin Loritsch

Jorg Heymans wrote:


OK, so unless someone vetoes this the next few hours i will start
shifting files about around 11pm CET today.

It would be great if people could refrain from checking stuff into
trunk/core from then onwards until i've finished. It will take a good
few hours, i'll notify when it is done.


also : should we make some sort of backup first or is everything fully
reversible from the svn command line ? Just to be on the safe side ...
 



Tag the trunk before you start, and then again afterwards.

But to answer your question, yes everything is reversible from the svn 
command line.




cvs generator update

2006-01-05 Thread Philippe LAPLANCHE

Updates in the source: 

Correction:
 The generator now looks for the sitemap parameter process-headers
(with the s at the end) as told in the documentation

New feature:
 The generator now accepts a new sitemap parameter max-records which
allows to limit the number of records to read. The default is 0 ( = read
all records)

Philippe




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Re: [VOTE] green light for flattening repo structure in trunk

2006-01-05 Thread hepabolu

Jorg Heymans wrote:

[X] flatten the structure and pave the way for a 2.2 release


Same here.

Bye, Helma



Re: XTech 2006 Amsterdam, May 16-19th

2006-01-05 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi

Daniel Fagerstrom wrote:

Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:


Arje Cahn wrote:


FYI, I'm on the technical review board of that conference.



Will you attend too?



Don't know, probably not, but I'll have to be in Sweden the week after 
that to given a keynote speech, so I might be able to stop by ;-)



What conference are you giving your keynote speach in?


Last year it was called Nordic Sofware Developer Summit 2005 - NorDev 
2005, so I suspect it's going to NorDev 2006 this year.


--
Stefano.



Re: [VOTE] green light for flattening repo structure in trunk

2006-01-05 Thread Giacomo Pati

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Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2006 11:24:40 -0600
From: Antonio Gallardo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: dev@cocoon.apache.org
To: dev@cocoon.apache.org
Subject: Re: [VOTE] green light for flattening repo structure in trunk

Jorg Heymans wrote:


Vadim Gritsenko wrote:


 Jorg Heymans wrote:
 
 
  [ +1 ] flatten the structure and pave the way for a 2.2 release
  
  
 
 Minor point: does it have to be 'cocoon-core', 'cocoon-webapp',

 'cocoon-blockname'; could it be 'core', 'webapp', 'block-blockname'?
 Not sure it will be easy to navigate among all those 'cocoon-foo's :)
 
 
 


Matching the directory name with the artifactId is recommended practice.
I can't exactly remember the benefits, but i know it saves extra
configuration in reactor builds eg when using continuum.



Should not be due name collision. ie: a core.jar released in another project?
Yes, I will prefer to keep a prefixed name as cocoon-core.jar. No matter 
where we find this file, his names states it is the cocoon core.


There is a project/build/finalName element in the pom.xml to define the 
artifact name.


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Re: [VOTE] preliminary wrap-up

2006-01-05 Thread Giacomo Pati

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Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2006 19:14:19 +0100
From: Jorg Heymans [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: dev@cocoon.apache.org
To: dev@cocoon.apache.org
Subject: [VOTE] preliminary wrap-up

OK, so unless someone vetoes this the next few hours i will start
shifting files about around 11pm CET today.

It would be great if people could refrain from checking stuff into
trunk/core from then onwards until i've finished. It will take a good
few hours, i'll notify when it is done.


also : should we make some sort of backup first or is everything fully
reversible from the svn command line ? Just to be on the safe side ...


As long as you've always used the svn command to move things around it 
should be revertable (even without a network connection).


- -- 
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Otego AG, Switzerland - http://www.otego.com
Orixo, the XML business alliance - http://www.orixo.com
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Re: [VOTE] flattening process started

2006-01-05 Thread Jorg Heymans
(i tagged trunk beforehand as suggested)


Jorg



Re: I'm lost...could we have more README files?

2006-01-05 Thread David Crossley
Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
 
 Would it be possible for people working in these areas to create short 
 README files in the trunk, and keep them up to date when something 
 happens in that area?
 
 There's already README.osgi, we could have README.maven, README.jmx, 
 README.blockmode, etc..

Please use the .txt extension. Otherwise we will get
more svn properties problems than we already have.
We get conflicting line-endings and un-necessary diffs.

 My goal is to allow any of us to experiment with these new features 
 even if they haven't followed them closely, by finding the necessary 
 information, links, status etc. in one place.
 
 So, I'd be thankful if people who work in these areas could keep us up 
 to date in this way, so that we can share the excitment about these new 
 features.
 
 I know this ultimately belongs to some docs, but as these things are 
 still evolving it's much easier to keep a single file up to date per 
 feature/mode. If docs are here already, just put an link to them in the 
 README file.

However all docs are still evolving. Wouldn't it be better
in Daisy where all can see.

Anyway whatever, any docs are good.

-David


Re: [VOTE] green light for flattening repo structure in trunk

2006-01-05 Thread David Crossley
Jorg Heymans wrote:
 
 Please cast your votes :
 
 [ +1 ] flatten the structure and pave the way for a 2.2 release
 [ ] no because 

-David


Re: [RT] The Real Component Simplification

2006-01-05 Thread Antonio Gallardo

Carsten Ziegeler wrote:


Daniel Fagerstrom wrote:
 

Decomponentization could start right away. Do you have any concrete 
examples of components that shouldn't be components?


   


The XMLSerializer/XMLDeserializer combo is one of the best examples, I
think. These shouldn't be components. If noone objects I'll do the
changes for 2.2 - we already discussed this years ago :)
 


I never wrote avalon components for my cocoon needs. :-)
Hence, any step to a simpler architecture deserves a big +1!

Best Regards,

Antonio Gallardo.


Carsten
 





[M10N] end of first flattening round

2006-01-05 Thread Jorg Heymans

Moved following blocks :

- core
- mocks
- session-fw
- authentication-fw

they are all located in /trunk now.


you should get :

[INFO] Apache Cocoon .. SUCCESS
[2.582s]
[INFO] Cocoon Core  SUCCESS
[41.436s]
[INFO] Core Mocks . SUCCESS
[0.696s]
[INFO] Session Framework .. SUCCESS
[0.091s]
[INFO] Session Framework Implementation ... SUCCESS
[2.732s]
[INFO] Session Framework Sample Application ... SUCCESS
[0.519s]
[INFO] Authentication Framework ... SUCCESS
[0.067s]
[INFO] Authentication Framework Implementation  SUCCESS
[3.651s]
[INFO] Authentication Framework Sample Application  SUCCESS
[0.489s]


[INFO] BUILD SUCCESSFUL


Notes
==

- tests are currently not compiling because of corrupt HtmlUnit poms, so
always run with -Dmaven.test.skip=true.
- the block structure is maven compliant already but probably does not
resemble our true block structure quite yet. This is easy to do so once
we nail down the block layout together with the deployer. For now i've
put the WEB-INF/xconfs in resources.
- the java directories still have non-java files in them. Someone should
still do something like find . -name 'all-files-not-ending-in-java' |
xargs svn delete  on the java directories
- i applied the naming convention of the maven repo, we can argue about
this later for now it'll do.
- things are still pretty rough overall, expect improvements soon
especially wrt eclipse plugin integration.
- we should use this minimal setup of core + 2 basic interdependent
blocks to get the deployer going and formalize the block structure
before we start adding more complicated blocks.
- if people want something easy to help out, start looking at the
assembly format for binary releases. We'll need it quite soon. Also the
Htmlunit pom needs to be added to cvs.apache.org (alternatively log this
in maven jira under maven evangelism or ping the htmlunit authors
directly)


That's all for now, 'night folks



Jorg



Re: I'm lost...could we have more README files?

2006-01-05 Thread Antonio Gallardo

David Crossley wrote:


Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
 

Would it be possible for people working in these areas to create short 
README files in the trunk, and keep them up to date when something 
happens in that area?


There's already README.osgi, we could have README.maven, README.jmx, 
README.blockmode, etc..
   



Please use the .txt extension. Otherwise we will get
more svn properties problems than we already have.
We get conflicting line-endings and un-necessary diffs.
 


+1. Adding new extensions is not a good idea. Perhaps a solution can be:

README.maven.txt
README.osgi.txt
etc.

It can be done with:

svn mv REAME.maven README.maven.txt

Best Regards,

Antonio Gallardo.



Re: [VOTE] green light for flattening repo structure in trunk

2006-01-05 Thread Torsten Curdt


[+1] flatten the structure and pave the way for a 2.2 release


cheers
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Torsten


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Re: [VOTE] preliminary wrap-up

2006-01-05 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Friday 06 January 2006 02:26, Berin Loritsch wrote:
 Tag the trunk before you start, and then again afterwards.

Tag == copy == backup, so it may sound a bit contradictory to Jorg.

And although copy in SVN is very cheap, I am finding this CVS practice less 
important, since all commits are atomic and good commit messages can be 
reviewed and identifying when things happen. But maybe just me.

Cheers 
Niclas


Re: [VOTE] preliminary wrap-up

2006-01-05 Thread Antonio Gallardo

Niclas Hedhman wrote:


On Friday 06 January 2006 02:26, Berin Loritsch wrote:
 


Tag the trunk before you start, and then again afterwards.
   



Tag == copy == backup, so it may sound a bit contradictory to Jorg.

And although copy in SVN is very cheap, I am finding this CVS practice less 
important, since all commits are atomic and good commit messages can be 
reviewed and identifying when things happen. But maybe just me.
 



+1 a revision number is enough.

Best Regards,

Antonio Gallardo.