Re: [2.1] Is Cocoon 2.1.x officially dead ?
On 29/mar/10, at 00:10, Cédric Damioli wrote: [...] BTW, for the records (and eventually some who use it page), here at Anyware, we build an Open Source CMS around Cocoon 2.1, called Ametys (http://www.ametys.org), which is currently in its 3.0 beta version, also leveraging JCR-Jackrabbit, Lucene and OSWorkflow. We currently have about 50 live systems, handling 2+ web sites. So we'll continue to use and support Cocoon for many years ! Hei, this is very interesting to know :-) I really would like to see how you dealt with implementation of JCR- related components! I tried to access [1] with no success, could you point me to a subversion repository? Thanks. Cheers. [1] http://viewvc.ametys.org/viewvc/ametys/trunk/cms/trunk
Re: [2.1] Is Cocoon 2.1.x officially dead ?
Hi Francesco, Sorry for the broken URL. You have access to the SVN here : https://svn.ametys.org and to the viewvc here : http://viewvc.ametys.org For JCR details, its quite off topic here, but feel free to ask if you have any questions Regards, Cdric Le 29/03/2010 09:10, Francesco Chicchiricc a crit: On 29/mar/10, at 00:10, Cdric Damioli wrote: [...] BTW, for the records (and eventually some "who use it" page), here at Anyware, we build an Open Source CMS around Cocoon 2.1, called Ametys (http://www.ametys.org), which is currently in its "3.0 beta" version, also leveraging JCR-Jackrabbit, Lucene and OSWorkflow. We currently have about 50 live systems, handling 2+ web sites. So we'll continue to use and support Cocoon for many years ! Hei, this is very interesting to know :-) I really would like to see how you dealt with implementation of JCR-related components! I tried to access [1] with no success, could you point me to a subversion repository? Thanks. Cheers. [1] http://viewvc.ametys.org/viewvc/ametys/trunk/cms/trunk -- www.anyware-services.com Cdric Damioli Directeur technique cedric.dami...@anyware-services.com Tel : +33(0)5 62 19 19 07 Mob : +33(0)6 87 03 61 63 Fax : +33(0)5 61 75 84 12 Adresse : Innopole 13 - L'Occitane - B.P 97672 - 31676 LABEGE CEDEX - France Ametys: le CMS Web Java Open Source www.ametys.org Ce message et toutes les pices jointes (le "Message") sont confidentiels et tablis l'intention exclusive de ses destinataires. Toute modification, dition, utilisation ou diffusion non autorise est interdite. Anyware Services dcline toute responsabilit au titre de ce Message s'il a t altr, dform, falsifi ou dit, diffus sans autorisation.
Re: [2.1] Is Cocoon 2.1.x officially dead ?
Hi all, Now that I know that the 2.1 community is alive and healthy, I'll begin to send various patches I've collected during the last few years :-) First of all, may someone review and eventually apply https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COCOON-2286 ? It's a very small patch allowing users of serializers-block to start Cocoon from a directory which path contains spaces (such as "C:\Program Files") BTW, for the records (and eventually some "who use it" page), here at Anyware, we build an Open Source CMS around Cocoon 2.1, called Ametys (http://www.ametys.org), which is currently in its "3.0 beta" version, also leveraging JCR-Jackrabbit, Lucene and OSWorkflow. We currently have about 50 live systems, handling 2+ web sites. So we'll continue to use and support Cocoon for many years ! Regards, Cdric Le 23/03/2010 10:52, Sylvain Wallez a crit: David Crossley wrote: Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: Cdric Damioli wrote: ...I'm wondering if someone around here was still willing to maintain the Cocoon-2.1 branch ? If not, I volunteer to do the job, as this branch is important for us, and I don't want to have to fork it in our own repository I'm +1 on someone maintaining the 2.1 branch and cutting releases as needed. I don't use Cocoon anymore, but some of the projects that I created with 2.1.x a few years ago are still running very well and maintained, though more at the application level where they probably don't need changes to Cocoon itself. I think 2.1.x is stable enough for people who use it to stay on that version, so maintaining it makes at lot of sense. Are there any current committers willing to help maintain it? Yes, i will play a part. I can certainly help with the release process. I have tried on various occasions to apply some of the outstanding patches, but had difficulty. It would need the help of others. I still have a pretty good memory of Cocoon 2.1.x internals, and can help to review/apply patches. But I can't do any test on a real world application, so will need help from the user community before we can make a release. Sylvain -- www.anyware-services.com Cdric Damioli Directeur technique cedric.dami...@anyware-services.com Tel : +33(0)5 62 19 19 07 Mob : +33(0)6 87 03 61 63 Fax : +33(0)5 61 75 84 12 Adresse : Innopole 13 - L'Occitane - B.P 97672 - 31676 LABEGE CEDEX - France Ametys: le CMS Web Java Open Source www.ametys.org Ce message et toutes les pices jointes (le "Message") sont confidentiels et tablis l'intention exclusive de ses destinataires. Toute modification, dition, utilisation ou diffusion non autorise est interdite. Anyware Services dcline toute responsabilit au titre de ce Message s'il a t altr, dform, falsifi ou dit, diffus sans autorisation.
Re: [2.1] Is Cocoon 2.1.x officially dead ?
El 23/03/10 16:41, Alfred Nathaniel escribió: BTW, is there still many Cocoon-2.1 users around here ? Best regards, Cédric Damioli At my daytime job I am also still running a number of high-profile websites with Cocoon 2.1.10. So I am very much interested in continuing the 2.1.x branch. But could we agree that JDK1.5 should be the minimum for that future 2.1.12 release? +1 We also still have some applications running on Cocoon. I agree a release is missing, but the trunk is pretty stable. I would like to add a GSoC project to finish dojo update in 2.1. Perhaps Jeremy can help us with this. Best Regards, Antonio Gallardo. Cheers, Alfred.
Re: [2.1] Is Cocoon 2.1.x officially dead ?
On 23/03/10 16:41, Alfred Nathaniel wrote: BTW, is there still many Cocoon-2.1 users around here ? Best regards, Cédric Damioli +1 We have several applications based on Cocoon 2.1, ranging from 2.17 to 2.1.11, especially in JSR-168 portlet environments. We also submitted some patches about that, unfortunately without any feedback :( Regards.
RE: [2.1] Is Cocoon 2.1.x officially dead ?
Hi Cédric, We have a lot of alive and kicking deployments of our applications in many sites across the World. A lot of older 2.1.5 but we managed to migrate our most recent versions to 2.1.11 (and BTW removing most of the patches we had to apply to 2.1.5, painful but worth it). 2.1.11 proves to be a very stable platform for what we use it (XSPs with multiple output formats, i18n, currently removing the Flowscript used for our in-house pageflow implementation, as the last expensive-and-not-that-useful feature) So you are not alone ;) Laurent -Original Message- From: Cédric Damioli [mailto:cedric.dami...@anyware-services.com] Sent: lundi, 22. mars 2010 20:23 To: dev@cocoon.apache.org Subject: [2.1] Is Cocoon 2.1.x officially dead ? Hi Cocoon community, Here at Anyware, we have dozens of Cocoon-2.1 based applications in production. We've hacked Cocoon a lot, so that migrating to most recent releases of Cocoon is not an option for us at the moment Cocoon 2.1 is a *very* stable framework, especially the core, but I recently came across a bug and discovered that, even if I provide a patch, there will be nobody to commit it, let alone release the next 2.1.12 maintenance version. Diving in the ML archives, I discovered than Carsten, the last 2.1 release manager, resigned from the job almost two years ago [1], and that nobody took over. So I'm wondering if someone around here was still willing to maintain the Cocoon-2.1 branch ? If not, I volunteer to do the job, as this branch is important for us, and I don't want to have to fork it in our own repository. Otherwise, do you have other solutions for me ? BTW, is there still many Cocoon-2.1 users around here ? Best regards, Cédric Damioli [1] http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/cocoon-dev/200805.mbox/%3c483cf62f.3000...@apache.org%3e -- Cédric Damioli RD director Ametys CMS ANYWARE SERVICES Tel : +33 (0)5 61 00 73 47 Mob : +33 (0)6 87 03 61 63 Fax : +33 (0)5 61 00 51 46 http://www.anyware-services.com http://www.ametys.org • This email and any files transmitted with it are CONFIDENTIAL and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. • Any unauthorized copying, disclosure, or distribution of the material within this email is strictly forbidden. • Any views or opinions presented within this e-mail are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Odyssey Financial Technologies SA unless otherwise specifically stated. • An electronic message is not binding on its sender. Any message referring to a binding engagement must be confirmed in writing and duly signed. • If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original.
Re: [2.1] Is Cocoon 2.1.x officially dead ?
Hi Cédric, 2010/3/22 Cédric Damioli cedric.dami...@anyware-services.com: ...I'm wondering if someone around here was still willing to maintain the Cocoon-2.1 branch ? If not, I volunteer to do the job, as this branch is important for us, and I don't want to have to fork it in our own repository I'm +1 on someone maintaining the 2.1 branch and cutting releases as needed. I don't use Cocoon anymore, but some of the projects that I created with 2.1.x a few years ago are still running very well and maintained, though more at the application level where they probably don't need changes to Cocoon itself. I think 2.1.x is stable enough for people who use it to stay on that version, so maintaining it makes at lot of sense. Are there any current committers willing to help maintain it? If not we might need to elect some new ones based on who's currently contributing in this area. -Bertrand
Re: [2.1] Is Cocoon 2.1.x officially dead ?
Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: Cédric Damioli wrote: ...I'm wondering if someone around here was still willing to maintain the Cocoon-2.1 branch ? If not, I volunteer to do the job, as this branch is important for us, and I don't want to have to fork it in our own repository I'm +1 on someone maintaining the 2.1 branch and cutting releases as needed. I don't use Cocoon anymore, but some of the projects that I created with 2.1.x a few years ago are still running very well and maintained, though more at the application level where they probably don't need changes to Cocoon itself. I think 2.1.x is stable enough for people who use it to stay on that version, so maintaining it makes at lot of sense. Are there any current committers willing to help maintain it? Yes, i will play a part. I can certainly help with the release process. I have tried on various occasions to apply some of the outstanding patches, but had difficulty. It would need the help of others. If not we might need to elect some new ones based on who's currently contributing in this area. That should be happening anyway. -David
Re: [2.1] Is Cocoon 2.1.x officially dead ?
David Crossley wrote: Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: Cédric Damioli wrote: ...I'm wondering if someone around here was still willing to maintain the Cocoon-2.1 branch ? If not, I volunteer to do the job, as this branch is important for us, and I don't want to have to fork it in our own repository I'm +1 on someone maintaining the 2.1 branch and cutting releases as needed. I don't use Cocoon anymore, but some of the projects that I created with 2.1.x a few years ago are still running very well and maintained, though more at the application level where they probably don't need changes to Cocoon itself. I think 2.1.x is stable enough for people who use it to stay on that version, so maintaining it makes at lot of sense. Are there any current committers willing to help maintain it? Yes, i will play a part. I can certainly help with the release process. I have tried on various occasions to apply some of the outstanding patches, but had difficulty. It would need the help of others. I still have a pretty good memory of Cocoon 2.1.x internals, and can help to review/apply patches. But I can't do any test on a real world application, so will need help from the user community before we can make a release. Sylvain -- Sylvain Wallez - http://bluxte.net
Re: [2.1] Is Cocoon 2.1.x officially dead ?
On Mon, 2010-03-22 at 20:22 +0100, Cédric Damioli wrote: Hi Cocoon community, ... So I'm wondering if someone around here was still willing to maintain the Cocoon-2.1 branch ? Apache Forrest and Apache Lenya are still based on cocoon 2.1.x. Both communities devs are normally subscribed to here as well. Apache Lenya is far from switching away from 2.1.x so there are still some souls around here that have commit access here as well. If not, I volunteer to do the job, as this branch is important for us, and I don't want to have to fork it in our own repository. Otherwise, do you have other solutions for me ? That is awesome news and we always need new volunteers here. As I can see the other responses most of all we need beta tester of releases and patch supplier. salu2 BTW, is there still many Cocoon-2.1 users around here ? Best regards, Cédric Damioli [1] http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/cocoon-dev/200805.mbox/%3c483cf62f.3000...@apache.org%3e -- Thorsten Scherler thorsten.at.apache.org Open Source Java consulting, training and solutions Sociedad Andaluza para el Desarrollo de la Sociedad de la Información, S.A.U. (SADESI)
Re: [2.1] Is Cocoon 2.1.x officially dead ?
Cédric Damioli wrote: Hi Cocoon community, Here at Anyware, we have dozens of Cocoon-2.1 based applications in production. We've hacked Cocoon a lot, so that migrating to most recent releases of Cocoon is not an option for us at the moment Cocoon 2.1 is a *very* stable framework, especially the core, but I recently came across a bug and discovered that, even if I provide a patch, there will be nobody to commit it, let alone release the next 2.1.12 maintenance version. Diving in the ML archives, I discovered than Carsten, the last 2.1 release manager, resigned from the job almost two years ago [1], and that nobody took over. So I'm wondering if someone around here was still willing to maintain the Cocoon-2.1 branch ? If not, I volunteer to do the job, as this branch is important for us, and I don't want to have to fork it in our own repository. Otherwise, do you have other solutions for me ? BTW, is there still many Cocoon-2.1 users around here ? Trust me, you are not alone. We are still using cocoon 2.1.9 for some fairly large deployments. Some of these deployments are in dialy use by the large multinationals so our trusty cocoon system will be with us for quite some time. +1 from me and I'd also be willing to help maintain. Alec,
Re: [2.1] Is Cocoon 2.1.x officially dead ?
BTW, is there still many Cocoon-2.1 users around here ? Best regards, Cédric Damioli At my daytime job I am also still running a number of high-profile websites with Cocoon 2.1.10. So I am very much interested in continuing the 2.1.x branch. But could we agree that JDK1.5 should be the minimum for that future 2.1.12 release? Cheers, Alfred.
[2.1] Is Cocoon 2.1.x officially dead ?
Hi Cocoon community, Here at Anyware, we have dozens of Cocoon-2.1 based applications in production. We've hacked Cocoon a lot, so that migrating to most recent releases of Cocoon is not an option for us at the moment Cocoon 2.1 is a *very* stable framework, especially the core, but I recently came across a bug and discovered that, even if I provide a patch, there will be nobody to commit it, let alone release the next 2.1.12 maintenance version. Diving in the ML archives, I discovered than Carsten, the last 2.1 release manager, resigned from the job almost two years ago [1], and that nobody took over. So I'm wondering if someone around here was still willing to maintain the Cocoon-2.1 branch ? If not, I volunteer to do the job, as this branch is important for us, and I don't want to have to fork it in our own repository. Otherwise, do you have other solutions for me ? BTW, is there still many Cocoon-2.1 users around here ? Best regards, Cédric Damioli [1] http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/cocoon-dev/200805.mbox/%3c483cf62f.3000...@apache.org%3e -- Cédric Damioli RD director Ametys CMS ANYWARE SERVICES Tel : +33 (0)5 61 00 73 47 Mob : +33 (0)6 87 03 61 63 Fax : +33 (0)5 61 00 51 46 http://www.anyware-services.com http://www.ametys.org
Re: [2.1] Is Cocoon 2.1.x officially dead ?
2010/3/22 Cédric Damioli cedric.dami...@anyware-services.com: So I'm wondering if someone around here was still willing to maintain the Cocoon-2.1 branch ? If not, I volunteer to do the job, as this branch is important for us, and I don't want to have to fork it in our own repository. Otherwise, do you have other solutions for me ? BTW, is there still many Cocoon-2.1 users around here ? Not sure who might be able to do a commit, in theory I could, but we're no where close to current on 2.1 and I really don't have time to bring up a current version and test. Have you submitted the patch? If it's a trivial I'm pretty sure someone should be able to look at it, and maybe even if it's big. We are using 2.1, but we're still on 2.1.8. -- Peter Hunsberger
