Re: [DISCUSS] Release plan
Hi all, I've just been playing a bit with JIRA to draft a possible C3 release plan, for 3.0.0-beta-1 [1], 3.0.0 [2] and 3.1.0 [3] according to what we've been discussing so far. Please let me know if you see any problem with this. Regards. [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COCOON3/fixforversion/12317578#selectedTab=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.project%3Aversion-issues-panel [2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COCOON3/fixforversion/12323965#selectedTab=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.project%3Aversion-issues-panel [3] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COCOON3/fixforversion/12323966#selectedTab=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.project%3Aversion-issues-panel -- Francesco Chicchiriccò ASF Member, Apache Syncope PMC chair, Apache Cocoon PMC Member http://people.apache.org/~ilgrosso/
Re: [DISCUSS] Release plan
On 11/18/2012 11:40 AM, Robby Pelssers wrote: Hi, Did anyone read any of these OSGI books by any chance? http://www.manning.com/hall/ http://www.manning.com/cummins/ http://www.manning.com/alves/ I am interested in buying one of these to get more acquainted and perhaps help out in the future. I don't know if another alternative is helpful to you but in the case, I recently came across OSGi Starter (http://www.packtpub.com/open-services-gateway-initiative-starter/book). -- Reinhard Pötz Founder Managing Director, Indoqa and Deepsearch http://www.indoqa.com/people/reinhard-poetz.html Member of the Apache Software Foundation Apache Cocoon Committer, PMC member reinh...@apache.org Furthermore, I think Oracle has to honor the JSPA agreement. http://s.apache.org/JCPIsDead http://s.apache.org/tck-trap
RE: [DISCUSS] Release plan
Hi, Did anyone read any of these OSGI books by any chance? http://www.manning.com/hall/ http://www.manning.com/cummins/ http://www.manning.com/alves/ I am interested in buying one of these to get more acquainted and perhaps help out in the future. Robby -Original Message- From: Thorsten Scherler [mailto:scher...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2012 10:43 PM To: dev@cocoon.apache.org Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Release plan On 11/12/2012 10:25 AM, Francesco Chicchiriccò wrote: ... = My questions now are: 1. Would you agree with the above drafted release plan? Yes, with a 2.1 release, since I recall there had been a couple of changes. 2. If so, who is available to help with these tasks? Consider that documentation tasks are an easier way to contribute to the project even without development skills. In 2002 I started exactly in this project with documentation. The initial purpose of cocoon was to generate consistence documentation for java.apache.org meaning to write some cocoon docs (esp. c3) be sure you pop onto our watch list. If you've been using C3 and appreciate this, please don't deny your help: we really need it! c3 is really missing helping hands. I would love to get some cocoon veterans reactivated again especially for the OSGI re-factoring that we need to do in the future. This project is as old as the ASF itself and we have a long list of prime ASF member contributing to this project. However I understand that we all only have very limited time. ...but for everyone that is reading this and like the idea of cocoon please help with - constructive discussions and giving the helping hand on the ml - documentation - testing and bug fixing - integrating c3 in your project salu2 PS thanks Francesco for starting this and it had been a pleasure to meet you in person. -- Thorsten Scherler scherler.at.gmail.com codeBusters S.L. - web based systems consulting, training and solutions http://www.codebusters.es/
Re: [DISCUSS] Release plan
On 11/12/2012 10:25 AM, Francesco Chicchiriccò wrote: ... = My questions now are: 1. Would you agree with the above drafted release plan? Yes, with a 2.1 release, since I recall there had been a couple of changes. 2. If so, who is available to help with these tasks? Consider that documentation tasks are an easier way to contribute to the project even without development skills. In 2002 I started exactly in this project with documentation. The initial purpose of cocoon was to generate consistence documentation for java.apache.org meaning to write some cocoon docs (esp. c3) be sure you pop onto our watch list. If you've been using C3 and appreciate this, please don't deny your help: we really need it! c3 is really missing helping hands. I would love to get some cocoon veterans reactivated again especially for the OSGI re-factoring that we need to do in the future. This project is as old as the ASF itself and we have a long list of prime ASF member contributing to this project. However I understand that we all only have very limited time. ...but for everyone that is reading this and like the idea of cocoon please help with - constructive discussions and giving the helping hand on the ml - documentation - testing and bug fixing - integrating c3 in your project salu2 PS thanks Francesco for starting this and it had been a pleasure to meet you in person. -- Thorsten Scherler scherler.at.gmail.com codeBusters S.L. - web based systems consulting, training and solutions http://www.codebusters.es/
Re: [DISCUSS] Release plan
Hi Francesco, 2012/11/12 Francesco Chicchiriccò ilgro...@apache.org Hi all, yet another thread asking about Cocoon project vitality [1] was recently started. Besides other things, one of major issues seems to be the lack of a stable C3 release (but also missing updates for C2.2). = About C2.2.1, there is an outstanding request by Thorsten [2] asking for support on releasing the C2.2.X series. This means we could do this with no code effort: we just need someone either acting as RM or supporting Thorsten (I guess) as RM. = About C3, we *really* need to provide a stable release in the near future: the last official release is still alpha and, even though most of us are running latest SNAPSHOTs in production environment, we cannot ask this to end-users. AFAICT, the major outstanding issues that need to be solved before attempting to release 3.0.0-beta-1 (and after this a 3.0.0 release) are related to: * caching: COCOON3-30 / COCOON3-100 - an imperfect solution was implemented for COCOON3-61 (which actually needs some additional fixing I am going to provide in the next two weeks for a customer) that can be applied to COCOON3-100 as well; I'd rather move COCOON3-30 (and other caching improvements) to C3 3.0.1 * problems running 2 C3 webapps in the same container (COCOON3-107): together with Javier and Thorsten, during hackaton at latest ApacheCon EU 2012, we have probably found a way to fix this but performed no implementation yet We have also other stuff [3] but I'd move any other issue to either 3.0.X or 3.1.0. Finally, we have some outstanding proposals for improving the pipeline APIs from Simone [4] and Reinhard [5]: I'd push this anyway to C3 3.1.0. In addition to the code issues above, we need to improve and finish the documentation [6], still plenty of 'TBW' and javadocs (COCOON3-92); I would take these as blockers for 3.0.0, but not for 3.0.0-beta-1. = My questions now are: 1. Would you agree with the above drafted release plan? Completely agree. +1 2. If so, who is available to help with these tasks? Consider that documentation tasks are an easier way to contribute to the project even without development skills. I'm happy to see that Cocoon activity is starting to grow again. The problem on my side is that things get worst in the project I'm working on and probably I will not have time until January or February. I will try to answer emails from the email list but I can't take any development responsibility due my situation. If you've been using C3 and appreciate this, please don't deny your help: we really need it! Regards. Salu2 [1] http://markmail.org/message/ycdrjbtx736akli3 [2] http://markmail.org/message/xs2wmijgej76n5u2 [3] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COCOON3#selectedTab=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.project%3Aissues-panel [4] http://markmail.org/message/vztzzzjfckgees4v [5] http://markmail.org/message/szfzsrk4p3kkifi7 [6] https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/cocoon/cocoon3/trunk/parent/src/docbkx/reference -- Francesco Chicchiriccò ASF Member, Apache Cocoon PMC and Apache Syncope PPMC Member http://people.apache.org/~ilgrosso/
Re: [DISCUSS] Release plan
Hi all, I indeed think that the the "aliveness" of Cocoon should be proved by releasing something. I am still one of the old players around here stuck with Cocoon-2.1 and one thing I could do is to help releasing 2.1.12 Do you think it could help people seeing Cocoon as a still-alive project ? Regards, Cdric Le 12/11/2012 10:25, Francesco Chicchiricc a crit: Hi all, yet another thread asking about Cocoon project vitality [1] was recently started. Besides other things, one of major issues seems to be the lack of a stable C3 release (but also missing updates for C2.2). = About C2.2.1, there is an outstanding request by Thorsten [2] asking for support on releasing the C2.2.X series. This means we could do this with no code effort: we just need someone either acting as RM or supporting Thorsten (I guess) as RM. = About C3, we *really* need to provide a stable release in the near future: the last official release is still alpha and, even though most of us are running latest SNAPSHOTs in production environment, we cannot ask this to end-users. AFAICT, the major outstanding issues that need to be solved before attempting to release 3.0.0-beta-1 (and after this a 3.0.0 release) are related to: * caching: COCOON3-30 / COCOON3-100 - an imperfect solution was implemented for COCOON3-61 (which actually needs some additional fixing I am going to provide in the next two weeks for a customer) that can be applied to COCOON3-100 as well; I'd rather move COCOON3-30 (and other caching improvements) to C3 3.0.1 * problems running 2 C3 webapps in the same container (COCOON3-107): together with Javier and Thorsten, during hackaton at latest ApacheCon EU 2012, we have probably found a way to fix this but performed no implementation yet We have also other stuff [3] but I'd move any other issue to either 3.0.X or 3.1.0. Finally, we have some outstanding proposals for improving the pipeline APIs from Simone [4] and Reinhard [5]: I'd push this anyway to C3 3.1.0. In addition to the code issues above, we need to improve and finish the documentation [6], still plenty of 'TBW' and javadocs (COCOON3-92); I would take these as blockers for 3.0.0, but not for 3.0.0-beta-1. = My questions now are: 1. Would you agree with the above drafted release plan? 2. If so, who is available to help with these tasks? Consider that documentation tasks are an easier way to contribute to the project even without development skills. If you've been using C3 and appreciate this, please don't deny your help: we really need it! Regards. [1] http://markmail.org/message/ycdrjbtx736akli3 [2] http://markmail.org/message/xs2wmijgej76n5u2 [3] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COCOON3#selectedTab=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.project%3Aissues-panel [4] http://markmail.org/message/vztzzzjfckgees4v [5] http://markmail.org/message/szfzsrk4p3kkifi7 [6] https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/cocoon/cocoon3/trunk/parent/src/docbkx/reference -- www.anyware-services.com Inscrivez-vous notre newsletter Cdric Damioli Directeur technique cedric.dami...@anyware-services.com Tel : +33(0)5 62 19 19 07 Mob : +33(0)6 87 03 61 63 Fax : +33(0)5 61 75 84 12 Adresse : Htel Tlcom - Augustin Fresnel / 40 rue du Village d'entreprises / 31670 LABEGE Ametys: Smart Web CMS www.ametys.org Ce message et toutes les pices jointes (le "Message") sont confidentiels et tablis l'intention exclusive de ses destinataires. Toute modification, dition, utilisation ou diffusion non autorise est interdite. Anyware Services dcline toute responsabilit au titre de ce Message s'il a t altr, dform, falsifi ou dit, diffus sans autorisation.
Re: [DISCUSS] Release plan
On 12/11/2012 10:46, Cédric Damioli wrote: Hi all, I indeed think that the the aliveness of Cocoon should be proved by releasing something. I am still one of the old players around here stuck with Cocoon-2.1 and one thing I could do is to help releasing 2.1.12 Do you think it could help people seeing Cocoon as a still-alive project? Definitely! Please let's consider C2.1.12 added to the release plan below: * which issues are still missing that you would like to include? * who is available to help Cédric? Thanks. Regards. Le 12/11/2012 10:25, Francesco Chicchiriccò a écrit : Hi all, yet another thread asking about Cocoon project vitality [1] was recently started. Besides other things, one of major issues seems to be the lack of a stable C3 release (but also missing updates for C2.2). = About C2.2.1, there is an outstanding request by Thorsten [2] asking for support on releasing the C2.2.X series. This means we could do this with no code effort: we just need someone either acting as RM or supporting Thorsten (I guess) as RM. = About C3, we *really* need to provide a stable release in the near future: the last official release is still alpha and, even though most of us are running latest SNAPSHOTs in production environment, we cannot ask this to end-users. AFAICT, the major outstanding issues that need to be solved before attempting to release 3.0.0-beta-1 (and after this a 3.0.0 release) are related to: * caching: COCOON3-30 / COCOON3-100 - an imperfect solution was implemented for COCOON3-61 (which actually needs some additional fixing I am going to provide in the next two weeks for a customer) that can be applied to COCOON3-100 as well; I'd rather move COCOON3-30 (and other caching improvements) to C3 3.0.1 * problems running 2 C3 webapps in the same container (COCOON3-107): together with Javier and Thorsten, during hackaton at latest ApacheCon EU 2012, we have probably found a way to fix this but performed no implementation yet We have also other stuff [3] but I'd move any other issue to either 3.0.X or 3.1.0. Finally, we have some outstanding proposals for improving the pipeline APIs from Simone [4] and Reinhard [5]: I'd push this anyway to C3 3.1.0. In addition to the code issues above, we need to improve and finish the documentation [6], still plenty of 'TBW' and javadocs (COCOON3-92); I would take these as blockers for 3.0.0, but not for 3.0.0-beta-1. = My questions now are: 1. Would you agree with the above drafted release plan? 2. If so, who is available to help with these tasks? Consider that documentation tasks are an easier way to contribute to the project even without development skills. If you've been using C3 and appreciate this, please don't deny your help: we really need it! Regards. [1] http://markmail.org/message/ycdrjbtx736akli3 [2] http://markmail.org/message/xs2wmijgej76n5u2 [3] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COCOON3#selectedTab=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.project%3Aissues-panel [4] http://markmail.org/message/vztzzzjfckgees4v [5] http://markmail.org/message/szfzsrk4p3kkifi7 [6] https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/cocoon/cocoon3/trunk/parent/src/docbkx/reference -- Francesco Chicchiriccò ASF Member, Apache Cocoon PMC and Apache Syncope PPMC Member http://people.apache.org/~ilgrosso/
RE: [DISCUSS] Release plan
Hi Francesco, Sounds like a good plan to me. We should make sure that all open tasks are JIRA tickets and we should have on our front page listed which tickets are in scope for 3.0.0 release. (perhaps also with status). And if possible a target release date ;-) This will give everyone a clear overview and a focus what to work on. And maybe we can discuss internally in what order the tickets should be resolved in order to work efficiently. Robby -Original Message- From: Francesco Chicchiriccò [mailto:ilgro...@apache.org] Sent: Monday, November 12, 2012 10:25 AM To: dev@cocoon.apache.org Subject: [DISCUSS] Release plan Hi all, yet another thread asking about Cocoon project vitality [1] was recently started. Besides other things, one of major issues seems to be the lack of a stable C3 release (but also missing updates for C2.2). = About C2.2.1, there is an outstanding request by Thorsten [2] asking for support on releasing the C2.2.X series. This means we could do this with no code effort: we just need someone either acting as RM or supporting Thorsten (I guess) as RM. = About C3, we *really* need to provide a stable release in the near future: the last official release is still alpha and, even though most of us are running latest SNAPSHOTs in production environment, we cannot ask this to end-users. AFAICT, the major outstanding issues that need to be solved before attempting to release 3.0.0-beta-1 (and after this a 3.0.0 release) are related to: * caching: COCOON3-30 / COCOON3-100 - an imperfect solution was implemented for COCOON3-61 (which actually needs some additional fixing I am going to provide in the next two weeks for a customer) that can be applied to COCOON3-100 as well; I'd rather move COCOON3-30 (and other caching improvements) to C3 3.0.1 * problems running 2 C3 webapps in the same container (COCOON3-107): together with Javier and Thorsten, during hackaton at latest ApacheCon EU 2012, we have probably found a way to fix this but performed no implementation yet We have also other stuff [3] but I'd move any other issue to either 3.0.X or 3.1.0. Finally, we have some outstanding proposals for improving the pipeline APIs from Simone [4] and Reinhard [5]: I'd push this anyway to C3 3.1.0. In addition to the code issues above, we need to improve and finish the documentation [6], still plenty of 'TBW' and javadocs (COCOON3-92); I would take these as blockers for 3.0.0, but not for 3.0.0-beta-1. = My questions now are: 1. Would you agree with the above drafted release plan? 2. If so, who is available to help with these tasks? Consider that documentation tasks are an easier way to contribute to the project even without development skills. If you've been using C3 and appreciate this, please don't deny your help: we really need it! Regards. [1] http://markmail.org/message/ycdrjbtx736akli3 [2] http://markmail.org/message/xs2wmijgej76n5u2 [3] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COCOON3#selectedTab=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.project%3Aissues-panel [4] http://markmail.org/message/vztzzzjfckgees4v [5] http://markmail.org/message/szfzsrk4p3kkifi7 [6] https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/cocoon/cocoon3/trunk/parent/src/docbkx/reference -- Francesco Chicchiriccò ASF Member, Apache Cocoon PMC and Apache Syncope PPMC Member http://people.apache.org/~ilgrosso/
Re: [DISCUSS] Release plan
On 12/11/2012 11:17, Robby Pelssers wrote: Hi Francesco, Sounds like a good plan to me. We should make sure that all open tasks are JIRA tickets and we should have on our front page listed which tickets are in scope for 3.0.0 release. (perhaps also with status). And if possible a target release date ;-) Ok, but this sounds like an answer only for question (1) below; what about the other question? ;-) This will give everyone a clear overview and a focus what to work on. And maybe we can discuss internally in what order the tickets should be resolved in order to work efficiently. Fair enough. Regards. -Original Message- From: Francesco Chicchiriccò [mailto:ilgro...@apache.org] Sent: Monday, November 12, 2012 10:25 AM To: dev@cocoon.apache.org Subject: [DISCUSS] Release plan Hi all, yet another thread asking about Cocoon project vitality [1] was recently started. Besides other things, one of major issues seems to be the lack of a stable C3 release (but also missing updates for C2.2). = About C2.2.1, there is an outstanding request by Thorsten [2] asking for support on releasing the C2.2.X series. This means we could do this with no code effort: we just need someone either acting as RM or supporting Thorsten (I guess) as RM. = About C3, we *really* need to provide a stable release in the near future: the last official release is still alpha and, even though most of us are running latest SNAPSHOTs in production environment, we cannot ask this to end-users. AFAICT, the major outstanding issues that need to be solved before attempting to release 3.0.0-beta-1 (and after this a 3.0.0 release) are related to: * caching: COCOON3-30 / COCOON3-100 - an imperfect solution was implemented for COCOON3-61 (which actually needs some additional fixing I am going to provide in the next two weeks for a customer) that can be applied to COCOON3-100 as well; I'd rather move COCOON3-30 (and other caching improvements) to C3 3.0.1 * problems running 2 C3 webapps in the same container (COCOON3-107): together with Javier and Thorsten, during hackaton at latest ApacheCon EU 2012, we have probably found a way to fix this but performed no implementation yet We have also other stuff [3] but I'd move any other issue to either 3.0.X or 3.1.0. Finally, we have some outstanding proposals for improving the pipeline APIs from Simone [4] and Reinhard [5]: I'd push this anyway to C3 3.1.0. In addition to the code issues above, we need to improve and finish the documentation [6], still plenty of 'TBW' and javadocs (COCOON3-92); I would take these as blockers for 3.0.0, but not for 3.0.0-beta-1. = My questions now are: 1. Would you agree with the above drafted release plan? 2. If so, who is available to help with these tasks? Consider that documentation tasks are an easier way to contribute to the project even without development skills. If you've been using C3 and appreciate this, please don't deny your help: we really need it! Regards. [1] http://markmail.org/message/ycdrjbtx736akli3 [2] http://markmail.org/message/xs2wmijgej76n5u2 [3] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COCOON3#selectedTab=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.project%3Aissues-panel [4] http://markmail.org/message/vztzzzjfckgees4v [5] http://markmail.org/message/szfzsrk4p3kkifi7 [6] https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/cocoon/cocoon3/trunk/parent/src/docbkx/reference -- Francesco Chicchiriccò ASF Member, Apache Cocoon PMC and Apache Syncope PPMC Member http://people.apache.org/~ilgrosso/
RE: [DISCUSS] Release plan
Actually my preference would be to help out documenting. Not sure yet how to tackle this to be of most added value. I bought e.g. Play for Scala book which helped me really getting a quick-start with that framework, although play also have pretty good documentation showing how to do individual things. The nice thing about the book is that it combines all these things in a step-by-step approach. And they have a few sample apps which you can download from github. Just to give an example... Cocoon's focus is on publishing... right? We at NXP are combining XSLT/ XQuery which makes a pretty interesting use case. I would be interested to start a (perhaps even dedicated) new blog showing how to build a webapp using these technologies. On the other hand I do think we need to fill in the dots for the main C3 documentation. If your question is.. you're in? Yes... I am. Robby -Original Message- From: Francesco Chicchiriccò [mailto:ilgro...@apache.org] Sent: Monday, November 12, 2012 11:32 AM To: dev@cocoon.apache.org Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Release plan On 12/11/2012 11:17, Robby Pelssers wrote: Hi Francesco, Sounds like a good plan to me. We should make sure that all open tasks are JIRA tickets and we should have on our front page listed which tickets are in scope for 3.0.0 release. (perhaps also with status). And if possible a target release date ;-) Ok, but this sounds like an answer only for question (1) below; what about the other question? ;-) This will give everyone a clear overview and a focus what to work on. And maybe we can discuss internally in what order the tickets should be resolved in order to work efficiently. Fair enough. Regards. -Original Message- From: Francesco Chicchiriccò [mailto:ilgro...@apache.org] Sent: Monday, November 12, 2012 10:25 AM To: dev@cocoon.apache.org Subject: [DISCUSS] Release plan Hi all, yet another thread asking about Cocoon project vitality [1] was recently started. Besides other things, one of major issues seems to be the lack of a stable C3 release (but also missing updates for C2.2). = About C2.2.1, there is an outstanding request by Thorsten [2] asking for support on releasing the C2.2.X series. This means we could do this with no code effort: we just need someone either acting as RM or supporting Thorsten (I guess) as RM. = About C3, we *really* need to provide a stable release in the near future: the last official release is still alpha and, even though most of us are running latest SNAPSHOTs in production environment, we cannot ask this to end-users. AFAICT, the major outstanding issues that need to be solved before attempting to release 3.0.0-beta-1 (and after this a 3.0.0 release) are related to: * caching: COCOON3-30 / COCOON3-100 - an imperfect solution was implemented for COCOON3-61 (which actually needs some additional fixing I am going to provide in the next two weeks for a customer) that can be applied to COCOON3-100 as well; I'd rather move COCOON3-30 (and other caching improvements) to C3 3.0.1 * problems running 2 C3 webapps in the same container (COCOON3-107): together with Javier and Thorsten, during hackaton at latest ApacheCon EU 2012, we have probably found a way to fix this but performed no implementation yet We have also other stuff [3] but I'd move any other issue to either 3.0.X or 3.1.0. Finally, we have some outstanding proposals for improving the pipeline APIs from Simone [4] and Reinhard [5]: I'd push this anyway to C3 3.1.0. In addition to the code issues above, we need to improve and finish the documentation [6], still plenty of 'TBW' and javadocs (COCOON3-92); I would take these as blockers for 3.0.0, but not for 3.0.0-beta-1. = My questions now are: 1. Would you agree with the above drafted release plan? 2. If so, who is available to help with these tasks? Consider that documentation tasks are an easier way to contribute to the project even without development skills. If you've been using C3 and appreciate this, please don't deny your help: we really need it! Regards. [1] http://markmail.org/message/ycdrjbtx736akli3 [2] http://markmail.org/message/xs2wmijgej76n5u2 [3] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COCOON3#selectedTab=com.atlassia n.jira.plugin.system.project%3Aissues-panel [4] http://markmail.org/message/vztzzzjfckgees4v [5] http://markmail.org/message/szfzsrk4p3kkifi7 [6] https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/cocoon/cocoon3/trunk/parent/src/docbk x/reference -- Francesco Chicchiriccò ASF Member, Apache Cocoon PMC and Apache Syncope PPMC Member http://people.apache.org/~ilgrosso/
Re: [DISCUSS] Release plan
On 11/12/2012 10:25 AM, Francesco Chicchiriccò wrote: Finally, we have some outstanding proposals for improving the pipeline APIs from Simone [4] and Reinhard [5]: I'd push this anyway to C3 3.1.0. No problem for me, +1 for a release. -- Reinhard Pötz Founder Managing Director, Indoqa and Deepsearch http://www.indoqa.com/people/reinhard-poetz.html Member of the Apache Software Foundation Apache Cocoon Committer, PMC member reinh...@apache.org Furthermore, I think Oracle has to honor the JSPA agreement. http://s.apache.org/JCPIsDead http://s.apache.org/tck-trap
