RE: [Fwd: Time to propose a CS Capstone Project!]

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24 sie 2016 09:10 "Ross Gardler"  napisał(a):

> I supervised a capstone project last year. The overhead was significant
> but, theoretically, the reward was good. The problem was that, in my case,
> the students did not provide patches as part of their work. Instead we got
> a monster patch which is still sitting in JIRA waiting for me to find the
> time to review it.
>
> This is not necessarily the students fault. I could have been more
> forceful, or I could have been more hands-on and helped them get set up.
> But the lesson learned is that putting an hour a week into these projects
> is not enough.
>
> That being said, if I had 3 hours a week to put into this I would
> certainly do it again.
>
> Ross
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: shath...@e-z.net [mailto:shath...@e-z.net]
> > Sent: Monday, August 22, 2016 11:35 PM
> > To: dev@community.apache.org
> > Subject: [Fwd: Time to propose a CS Capstone Project!]
> >
> > I have participated in Oregon State University (Corvallis, Oregon USA)
> > undergraduate senior projects in the past. The Capstone program is an
> > opportunity for our open source software communities to propose a three-
> > term project for students and provide mentors to the projects.  The
> mentors
> > get to interact with students and their evaluation becomes a part of
> their
> > performance evaluation grade.
> >
> > These Capstone university projects can readily support the Apache
> Software
> > Foundation health.
> >
> > I live and work within commute distance of the university.  One of the
> > previous projects had a mentor in Denmark.  International cooperation
> can be
> > accommodated.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > Steven J. Hathaway
> > shathaway@a.o
> >
> >  Original Message
> 
> > Subject: Time to propose a CS Capstone Project!
> > From:"D. Kevin McGrath" 
> > Date:Mon, August 22, 2016 12:30 pm
> > To:  shath...@e-z.net
> > 
> --
> >
> >
> > Colleagues --
> >
> > Have you always wanted a particular software tool developed for your use,
> > but have never had the time to do it yourself? Well then, read on. Have
> I got
> > a deal for you!
> >
> > My name is Kevin McGrath. I am the instructor who runs the OSU Computer
> > Science Senior Capstone class. The Capstone class is a 3-quarter (Fall,
> Winter,
> > Spring)
> > "career preparation" experience. The major piece of this is doing a
> significant
> > 3 member team project.
> >
> > When the students come to the first class on September 24, I want to
> present
> > them with a list of exciting, creative, and real-experience software
> > engineering project possibilities. This is where you come in. I am
> looking for
> > you to use your needs and experience to propose those project
> possibilities.
> >
> > A web site has been setup to give you more information, and let you enter
> > and edit your project proposals:
> >
> >
> >   https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3a%2f%2fe
> > ecs.oregonstate.edu%2fcapstone%2fsubmission%2f=01%7c01%7cRoss.
> > Gardler%40microsoft.com%7c69dffb91914e465f88b908d3cb068ca9%7c72f98
> > 8bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1=Y5%2f34BYPOXEwKHTC0sm4jNG
> > QVxTqoxU7RGLoJBj02S0%3d
> >
> > You have until September 15 to get yours in. If any clarification would
> be
> > necessary, you'd have from the 15th to the first day of term to clarify.
> > That is
> > when the students will see them, and will start the selection process.
> In that
> > process, I ask the students to "bid" on their top 5 choices. I
> ultimately make
> > the final project assignments, but endeavour to take their preferences
> into
> > account. I find I get better results that way.
> >
> > There will likely be more projects proposed than students teams to do
> them.
> > *So, really sell your project.* Definitely don't understate its
> cool-ness factor!
> > The more excited you sound in the description, the more excited they are
> > likely to be when doing it. Excitement is contagious! If you'd be
> interested in
> > pitching your project to the students in person, please let me know!
> > Personally pitched projects tend to generate more excitement from the
> > students.
> >
> > After projects have been selected, we will follow a client-contractor
> model in
> > which I "run" the software contract company and you are one of our valued
> > clients. The students "report" to me, but you, as client, work directly
> with
> > them to design the requirements, set the timeline, approve the progress.
> You
> > also get to help assign grades.
> >
> > This year I'm asking you to explicitly distinguish the projects that are
> research
> > oriented vs. those that are more software engineering focused. If you
> would
> > like to propose a research project for the students, please indicate
> this using
> > the Additional Comments 

Re: Thanks page rather than sponsor links in wiki

[Jacques Le Roux]

Thanks Shane,

We indeed read this page and concluded a "Thanks" page is a better way than having 
"thanks" spread on several wiki product support pages

Jacques


Le 24/08/2016 à 17:05, Shane Curcuru a écrit :

As a general point, PMCs should use the guidance here whenever including
links to commercial entities on their websites:

   http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/linking

- Shane

Jacques Le Roux wrote on 8/24/16 4:36 AM:

Hi,

I think we should rather have a "Thanks" wiki page rather than sponsor
links in wiki

This has been already discussed at
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Apache+OFBiz+Technical+Production+Setup+Guide?focusedCommentId=50234709#comment-50234709


So this post is more a reminder for when building the new site

Are (at least) concerned

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Framework+Introduction+Videos+and+Diagrams

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBENDUSER/OFBiz+in+a+service+and+project+oriented+company

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBENDUSER/Apache+OFBiz+Business+Setup+Guide


Thanks

Jacques


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Re: Thanks page rather than sponsor links in wiki

[Jacques Le Roux]

Thanks Pierre,

Actually it was indeed not intentional, I'll repost on OFBiz dev ML

Jacques


Le 24/08/2016 à 10:37, Pierre Smits a écrit :

Hi Jacques,

It seems you sent your posting to the wrong ml. Or was it intentional?

Best regards,

Pierre Smits

ORRTIZ.COM 
OFBiz based solutions & services

OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/

On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 10:36 AM, Jacques Le Roux <
jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com> wrote:


Hi,

I think we should rather have a "Thanks" wiki page rather than sponsor
links in wiki

This has been already discussed at
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Apache+
OFBiz+Technical+Production+Setup+Guide?focusedCommentId=
50234709#comment-50234709

So this post is more a reminder for when building the new site

Are (at least) concerned

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Framework+
Introduction+Videos+and+Diagrams
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBENDUSER/OFBiz
+in+a+service+and+project+oriented+company
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBENDUSER/Apach
e+OFBiz+Business+Setup+Guide

Thanks

Jacques


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Re: Task #5c18cd0e: Create Twitter list of all projects

[Thiago H de Paula Figueiredo]

On Tue, 16 Aug 2016 05:00:26 -0300, Richard Eckart de Castilho  
 wrote:



On 15.08.2016, at 23:22, Joe Brockmeier  wrote:


You'd actually need access to the Twitter account to do this.

I have a partial list of projects under my account here:

https://twitter.com/jzb/lists/apache/members


You can add this one: https://twitter.com/ApacheUIMA

It is run by the Apache UIMA PMC.


Same for https://twitter.com/ApacheTapestry, please.



Cheers,

-- Richard

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Re: Thanks page rather than sponsor links in wiki

[Shane Curcuru]

As a general point, PMCs should use the guidance here whenever including
links to commercial entities on their websites:

  http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/linking

- Shane

Jacques Le Roux wrote on 8/24/16 4:36 AM:
> Hi,
> 
> I think we should rather have a "Thanks" wiki page rather than sponsor
> links in wiki
> 
> This has been already discussed at
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Apache+OFBiz+Technical+Production+Setup+Guide?focusedCommentId=50234709#comment-50234709
> 
> 
> So this post is more a reminder for when building the new site
> 
> Are (at least) concerned
> 
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Framework+Introduction+Videos+and+Diagrams
> 
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBENDUSER/OFBiz+in+a+service+and+project+oriented+company
> 
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBENDUSER/Apache+OFBiz+Business+Setup+Guide
> 
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Jacques
> 
> 
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Re: Thanks page rather than sponsor links in wiki

[Pierre Smits]

Hi Jacques,

It seems you sent your posting to the wrong ml. Or was it intentional?

Best regards,

Pierre Smits

ORRTIZ.COM 
OFBiz based solutions & services

OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/

On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 10:36 AM, Jacques Le Roux <
jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I think we should rather have a "Thanks" wiki page rather than sponsor
> links in wiki
>
> This has been already discussed at
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Apache+
> OFBiz+Technical+Production+Setup+Guide?focusedCommentId=
> 50234709#comment-50234709
>
> So this post is more a reminder for when building the new site
>
> Are (at least) concerned
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Framework+
> Introduction+Videos+and+Diagrams
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBENDUSER/OFBiz
> +in+a+service+and+project+oriented+company
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBENDUSER/Apach
> e+OFBiz+Business+Setup+Guide
>
> Thanks
>
> Jacques
>
>
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> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org
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>

RE: [Fwd: Time to propose a CS Capstone Project!]

[Ross Gardler]

I supervised a capstone project last year. The overhead was significant but, 
theoretically, the reward was good. The problem was that, in my case, the 
students did not provide patches as part of their work. Instead we got a 
monster patch which is still sitting in JIRA waiting for me to find the time to 
review it.

This is not necessarily the students fault. I could have been more forceful, or 
I could have been more hands-on and helped them get set up. But the lesson 
learned is that putting an hour a week into these projects is not enough.

That being said, if I had 3 hours a week to put into this I would certainly do 
it again.

Ross

> -Original Message-
> From: shath...@e-z.net [mailto:shath...@e-z.net]
> Sent: Monday, August 22, 2016 11:35 PM
> To: dev@community.apache.org
> Subject: [Fwd: Time to propose a CS Capstone Project!]
> 
> I have participated in Oregon State University (Corvallis, Oregon USA)
> undergraduate senior projects in the past. The Capstone program is an
> opportunity for our open source software communities to propose a three-
> term project for students and provide mentors to the projects.  The mentors
> get to interact with students and their evaluation becomes a part of their
> performance evaluation grade.
> 
> These Capstone university projects can readily support the Apache Software
> Foundation health.
> 
> I live and work within commute distance of the university.  One of the
> previous projects had a mentor in Denmark.  International cooperation can be
> accommodated.
> 
> Sincerely,
> Steven J. Hathaway
> shathaway@a.o
> 
>  Original Message 
> Subject: Time to propose a CS Capstone Project!
> From:"D. Kevin McGrath" 
> Date:Mon, August 22, 2016 12:30 pm
> To:  shath...@e-z.net
> --
> 
> 
> Colleagues --
> 
> Have you always wanted a particular software tool developed for your use,
> but have never had the time to do it yourself? Well then, read on. Have I got
> a deal for you!
> 
> My name is Kevin McGrath. I am the instructor who runs the OSU Computer
> Science Senior Capstone class. The Capstone class is a 3-quarter (Fall, 
> Winter,
> Spring)
> "career preparation" experience. The major piece of this is doing a 
> significant
> 3 member team project.
> 
> When the students come to the first class on September 24, I want to present
> them with a list of exciting, creative, and real-experience software
> engineering project possibilities. This is where you come in. I am looking for
> you to use your needs and experience to propose those project possibilities.
> 
> A web site has been setup to give you more information, and let you enter
> and edit your project proposals:
> 
> 
>   https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3a%2f%2fe
> ecs.oregonstate.edu%2fcapstone%2fsubmission%2f=01%7c01%7cRoss.
> Gardler%40microsoft.com%7c69dffb91914e465f88b908d3cb068ca9%7c72f98
> 8bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1=Y5%2f34BYPOXEwKHTC0sm4jNG
> QVxTqoxU7RGLoJBj02S0%3d
> 
> You have until September 15 to get yours in. If any clarification would be
> necessary, you'd have from the 15th to the first day of term to clarify.
> That is
> when the students will see them, and will start the selection process. In that
> process, I ask the students to "bid" on their top 5 choices. I ultimately make
> the final project assignments, but endeavour to take their preferences into
> account. I find I get better results that way.
> 
> There will likely be more projects proposed than students teams to do them.
> *So, really sell your project.* Definitely don't understate its cool-ness 
> factor!
> The more excited you sound in the description, the more excited they are
> likely to be when doing it. Excitement is contagious! If you'd be interested 
> in
> pitching your project to the students in person, please let me know!
> Personally pitched projects tend to generate more excitement from the
> students.
> 
> After projects have been selected, we will follow a client-contractor model in
> which I "run" the software contract company and you are one of our valued
> clients. The students "report" to me, but you, as client, work directly with
> them to design the requirements, set the timeline, approve the progress. You
> also get to help assign grades.
> 
> This year I'm asking you to explicitly distinguish the projects that are 
> research
> oriented vs. those that are more software engineering focused. If you would
> like to propose a research project for the students, please indicate this 
> using
> the Additional Comments field.
> 
> Given the nature of a research oriented project, I find that better results 
> are
> had if the students are initially aware of the type of project. If you are 
> unsure,
> that is not a problem. I'm happy to work with you on the details of your
> project -- just submit it, and