Re: What happened to the Committers Map?

[Nick Burch]

On Tue, 25 Sep 2018, lewis john mcgibbney wrote:

Am I correct in saying that the Committer map code did not make the
transition to the new people.apache.org?


It got redone on the Comdev "nearby people" tool, should be at 
http://community-vm.apache.org/map.html



Note that it's still only based on the doap and foaf files, which aren't 
the most user friendly things to produce or maintain.


There has been talk in the past of letting people store their info in 
either somewhere else central, or in a more convenient format, but alas no 
decisions. If you folks have some smart ideas that'd be great!




Any links to source?


https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/comdev/nearby_people

Nick

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Re: What happened to the Committers Map?

[Rich Bowen]

I would encourage you to do it the Right Way (whatever that is) and not
feel tied to the past. I think that those rdf files are largely gone, or
incorrect.

On Tue, Sep 25, 2018, 16:04 lewis john mcgibbney  wrote:

> Hi dev@community,
> Am I correct in saying that the Committer map code did not make the
> transition to the new people.apache.org?
> The link at http://people.apache.org is dead - Map of committer locations
> 
> We are currently sitting in a GeoSpatial breakout and looking to
> potentially revive something like this...
> Any links to source?
> Where would be pull data from for presentation purposes?
> Thanks in advance for any information,
> Lewis
>
> --
> http://home.apache.org/~lewismc/
> http://people.apache.org/keys/committer/lewismc
>

Re: Idea feedback request: Project mailing list specifically for upstream users

[Alexandre Rafalovitch]

In my mind, there are three differentiation:
1) The Solr Users mailing list traffic is quite large and diverse. So,
it can be both overwhelming (for everybody) and hard to notice
messages that are possibly of much higher impact than others. An
upstream framework that is suddenly broken or wants to adopt a new
feature has a larger impact on overall user experience, then one
person's individual journey through Solr features and its current
limitations. So, there is a multiplier effect of attention if handled
right.
2) The upstream implementer's questions are usually a mix of
super-technical details and potentially not complete understanding of
Solr. So, they could benefit - in my mind - of having space of their
own being more technical an/or in-depth than Users list and less
Solr-tuned than Dev list.
3) The other people on such list would be other implementers with
similar questions (e.g. new schema configuration API specifics) and so
they could benefit from each other's questions in the way people on
the Solr Users mailing list do much less frequently.

I hope this clarifies my reasoning.
   Alex.

On 25 September 2018 at 17:49, Luciano Resende  wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 25, 2018 at 5:30 PM Alexandre Rafalovitch
>  wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have an idea that I would love to get feedback on to see if it makes
>> sense, feasible, has been tried, is currently being done by somebody,
>> etc.
>>
...
>> Would it make sense to have a mailing list where committers of
>> upstream projects could ask questions related to their implementation
>> of API, interface, feature dependency, etc? The list would need to be
>> backed by a couple of primary project committers (preferably with a
>> wide rather than deep feature knowledge) that can explain new
>> features, translate the jargon, help troubleshoot the failures, etc.
>>

>
>
> Wouldn't these type of questions also be beneficial for general users?
>
> I see your scenario more like advanced users versus regular users, but
> I also see regular users becoming advanced users at some point (but
> probably in a smaller percentage).
>
> --
> Luciano Resende
> http://twitter.com/lresende1975
> http://lresende.blogspot.com/
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Re: Idea feedback request: Project mailing list specifically for upstream users

[Luciano Resende]

On Tue, Sep 25, 2018 at 5:30 PM Alexandre Rafalovitch
 wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I have an idea that I would love to get feedback on to see if it makes
> sense, feasible, has been tried, is currently being done by somebody,
> etc.
>
> My example is based on Apache Solr, but I think it may affect a lot of
> Apache projects. We are all giants offering shoulders to somebody
> else
>
> When our project releases the next version, upstream projects may fall
> behind. Or something may break for them (not too often fortunately).
> Or there is a cool feature they may want to use but not sure how and
> have a complicated mix of user and super-technical expertise. For us,
> upstream projects would be Apache Camel, NiFi, ManifoldCF, Nutch, etc.
> And Solr would be upstream to Calcite, OpenNLP, Tika, ZooKeeper, etc.
>
> We have Dev and User mailing lists, Jiras, etc, but they are all
> rather high volume and are among peers.
>
> Would it make sense to have a mailing list where committers of
> upstream projects could ask questions related to their implementation
> of API, interface, feature dependency, etc? The list would need to be
> backed by a couple of primary project committers (preferably with a
> wide rather than deep feature knowledge) that can explain new
> features, translate the jargon, help troubleshoot the failures, etc.
>
> Do people think it would be useful and/or have examples for me to
> clarify this and figure out whether/how this should exist?
>
> Regards,
>Alex.
>


Wouldn't these type of questions also be beneficial for general users?

I see your scenario more like advanced users versus regular users, but
I also see regular users becoming advanced users at some point (but
probably in a smaller percentage).

-- 
Luciano Resende
http://twitter.com/lresende1975
http://lresende.blogspot.com/

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Idea feedback request: Project mailing list specifically for upstream users

[Alexandre Rafalovitch]

Hi,

I have an idea that I would love to get feedback on to see if it makes
sense, feasible, has been tried, is currently being done by somebody,
etc.

My example is based on Apache Solr, but I think it may affect a lot of
Apache projects. We are all giants offering shoulders to somebody
else

When our project releases the next version, upstream projects may fall
behind. Or something may break for them (not too often fortunately).
Or there is a cool feature they may want to use but not sure how and
have a complicated mix of user and super-technical expertise. For us,
upstream projects would be Apache Camel, NiFi, ManifoldCF, Nutch, etc.
And Solr would be upstream to Calcite, OpenNLP, Tika, ZooKeeper, etc.

We have Dev and User mailing lists, Jiras, etc, but they are all
rather high volume and are among peers.

Would it make sense to have a mailing list where committers of
upstream projects could ask questions related to their implementation
of API, interface, feature dependency, etc? The list would need to be
backed by a couple of primary project committers (preferably with a
wide rather than deep feature knowledge) that can explain new
features, translate the jargon, help troubleshoot the failures, etc.

Do people thing it would be useful and/or have examples for me to
clarify this and figure out whether/how this should exist?

Regards,
   Alex.

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Re: What happened to the Committers Map?

[Kevin A. McGrail]

Lewis, I know that MY coordinates are in a
people.apache.org/~kmcgrail/kmcgrail.rdf file with
38.846543
-77.301131


Not sure if others are similar.  I didn't create the file, not sure what
did.
--
Kevin A. McGrail
VP Fundraising, Apache Software Foundation
Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project
https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171


On Tue, Sep 25, 2018 at 4:04 PM lewis john mcgibbney 
wrote:

> Hi dev@community,
> Am I correct in saying that the Committer map code did not make the
> transition to the new people.apache.org?
> The link at http://people.apache.org is dead - Map of committer locations
> 
> We are currently sitting in a GeoSpatial breakout and looking to
> potentially revive something like this...
> Any links to source?
> Where would be pull data from for presentation purposes?
> Thanks in advance for any information,
> Lewis
>
> --
> http://home.apache.org/~lewismc/
> http://people.apache.org/keys/committer/lewismc
>

What happened to the Committers Map?

[lewis john mcgibbney]

Hi dev@community,
Am I correct in saying that the Committer map code did not make the
transition to the new people.apache.org?
The link at http://people.apache.org is dead - Map of committer locations

We are currently sitting in a GeoSpatial breakout and looking to
potentially revive something like this...
Any links to source?
Where would be pull data from for presentation purposes?
Thanks in advance for any information,
Lewis

-- 
http://home.apache.org/~lewismc/
http://people.apache.org/keys/committer/lewismc