Re: Ensure all projects have DOAP RDP files in place

[sebb]

On Wed, 24 Apr 2019 at 13:45, Christofer Dutz  wrote:
>
> Hi Sebb,
>
> Well there are two types of RDF files.
> One for the committee/PMC and one for the project (DOAP)

BTW, there may be multiple DOAPs for a PMC.

> While the committee needs regular updating if it contains the PMC and the 
> Chair

Exactly, so it's best not to include that information.

> The project needs regular updating for releases and stuff like that (and in 
> case of PLC4X, the supported languages)
> We just moved both together to keep things simple.

Isn't it simpler to leave the PMC RDF with all the other ones since
it's best to leave it alone?

> Doesn't really matter where they are, it just seems they are usually not 
> maintained as it might be a little in transparent what files exist, where all 
> files are located, which information is needed for what and what has to be 
> updated in which situation. Was quite a ride in preparation of PLC4X 
> graduation to find out which files in which repos were required to be updated 
> to update the information of the different parts of our infrastructure.
> Chris
>
>
> Am 24.04.19, 14:19 schrieb "sebb" :
>
> On Wed, 24 Apr 2019 at 12:49, Christofer Dutz  
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Sebb,
> >
> > thing is ... from what I can see in the IoT space, it seems till a week 
> ago no-one was really using the DOAP files for their projects and from 
> looking at the ones I know, it seemed they were pretty outdated. So I 
> intentionally moved the RDF files to a more prominent position.
>
> I don't follow how moving the PMC RDF file makes any difference.
> That file does not contain any reference to the IoT space apart
> perhaps from the charter.
> Generally the PMC RDF file can be created and then left alone.
>
> It's the DOAP files that are important for identifying what products
> are available in the various different fields of use.
>
> > Chris
> >
> > Am 24.04.19, 10:29 schrieb "sebb" :
> >
> > On Wed, 24 Apr 2019 at 09:08, Christofer Dutz 
>  wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > I’m involved in the IoT track for ACNA and ACEU and was trying to 
> use [1] to find all Apache in the IoT space. At the time I first visited that 
> page, the Apache Ignite project was the only project to be listed there … now 
> the PLC4X and Camel have been added, but it seems most projects are not 
> maintaining their RDP files correctly.
> > >
> > > It would be cool if some people could help with fixing this issue 
> for the projects they are involved with.
> > >
> > > Perhaps as a little help. I did the following for the PLC4X 
> project:
> > >
> > >   1.  Created the two RDF files (PMC description [2] and Project 
> description [3]) which are published through our project website and are 
> available at [4] and [5].
> > >   2.  Registered them in the committees.xml and the projects.xml 
> files here [6]
> > >   3.  Wait at most 24 hours
> >
> > There is no need to create a local PMC description RDF file.
> > Most TLPs use the ones at
> > 
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/comdev/projects.apache.org/trunk/data/committees/
> >
> > If yours does not exist yet, just create it and add it to 
> committees.xml
> > There is a template for this purpose:
> > 
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/comdev/projects.apache.org/trunk/data/committees/_template.rdf
> >
> > > Perhaps if you use these as templates, it helps get the files up 
> and running.
> > >
> > > The main reason we chose to maintain these files in our project, 
> is that I have seen quite a lot of projects without maintained RDF files, 
> because they are so invisible to most of the folks … if for example you have 
> a look at the Flex ref file [7], it still mentions Alex as chair, which isn’t 
> the case anymore for more than 2 years now.
> >
> > To avoid duplication and staleness of data, it's best not to use the
> > PMC RDF files for anything but the minimum, i.e.
> > id, name and charter
> >
> > > Our hope is by managing these resources as part of the normal 
> project, they get a little more visibility and awareness.
> >
> > Unfortunately experience shows they still get forgotten, 
> particularly
> > the PMC file (as noted above).
> >
> > > Chris
> > >
> > > [1] https://projects.apache.org/projects.html?category
> > > [2] 
> https://github.com/apache/plc4x/blob/develop/src/site/resources/plc4x-pmc.rdf
> > > [3] 
> https://github.com/apache/plc4x/blob/develop/src/site/resources/plc4x-doap.rdf
> > > [4] http://plc4x.apache.org/plc4x-pmc.rdf
> > > [5] http://plc4x.apache.org/plc4x-doap.rdf
> > > [6] 
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/comdev/projects.apache.org/trunk/data
> > > [7] 

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Re: Ensure all projects have DOAP RDP files in place

[Christofer Dutz]

Hi Sebb, 

Well there are two types of RDF files.
One for the committee/PMC and one for the project (DOAP)

While the committee needs regular updating if it contains the PMC and the Chair

The project needs regular updating for releases and stuff like that (and in 
case of PLC4X, the supported languages)
We just moved both together to keep things simple.

Doesn't really matter where they are, it just seems they are usually not 
maintained as it might be a little in transparent what files exist, where all 
files are located, which information is needed for what and what has to be 
updated in which situation. Was quite a ride in preparation of PLC4X graduation 
to find out which files in which repos were required to be updated to update 
the information of the different parts of our infrastructure.

Chris


Am 24.04.19, 14:19 schrieb "sebb" :

On Wed, 24 Apr 2019 at 12:49, Christofer Dutz  
wrote:
>
> Hi Sebb,
>
> thing is ... from what I can see in the IoT space, it seems till a week 
ago no-one was really using the DOAP files for their projects and from looking 
at the ones I know, it seemed they were pretty outdated. So I intentionally 
moved the RDF files to a more prominent position.

I don't follow how moving the PMC RDF file makes any difference.
That file does not contain any reference to the IoT space apart
perhaps from the charter.
Generally the PMC RDF file can be created and then left alone.

It's the DOAP files that are important for identifying what products
are available in the various different fields of use.

> Chris
>
> Am 24.04.19, 10:29 schrieb "sebb" :
>
> On Wed, 24 Apr 2019 at 09:08, Christofer Dutz 
 wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I’m involved in the IoT track for ACNA and ACEU and was trying to 
use [1] to find all Apache in the IoT space. At the time I first visited that 
page, the Apache Ignite project was the only project to be listed there … now 
the PLC4X and Camel have been added, but it seems most projects are not 
maintaining their RDP files correctly.
> >
> > It would be cool if some people could help with fixing this issue 
for the projects they are involved with.
> >
> > Perhaps as a little help. I did the following for the PLC4X project:
> >
> >   1.  Created the two RDF files (PMC description [2] and Project 
description [3]) which are published through our project website and are 
available at [4] and [5].
> >   2.  Registered them in the committees.xml and the projects.xml 
files here [6]
> >   3.  Wait at most 24 hours
>
> There is no need to create a local PMC description RDF file.
> Most TLPs use the ones at
> 
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/comdev/projects.apache.org/trunk/data/committees/
>
> If yours does not exist yet, just create it and add it to 
committees.xml
> There is a template for this purpose:
> 
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/comdev/projects.apache.org/trunk/data/committees/_template.rdf
>
> > Perhaps if you use these as templates, it helps get the files up 
and running.
> >
> > The main reason we chose to maintain these files in our project, is 
that I have seen quite a lot of projects without maintained RDF files, because 
they are so invisible to most of the folks … if for example you have a look at 
the Flex ref file [7], it still mentions Alex as chair, which isn’t the case 
anymore for more than 2 years now.
>
> To avoid duplication and staleness of data, it's best not to use the
> PMC RDF files for anything but the minimum, i.e.
> id, name and charter
>
> > Our hope is by managing these resources as part of the normal 
project, they get a little more visibility and awareness.
>
> Unfortunately experience shows they still get forgotten, particularly
> the PMC file (as noted above).
>
> > Chris
> >
> > [1] https://projects.apache.org/projects.html?category
> > [2] 
https://github.com/apache/plc4x/blob/develop/src/site/resources/plc4x-pmc.rdf
> > [3] 
https://github.com/apache/plc4x/blob/develop/src/site/resources/plc4x-doap.rdf
> > [4] http://plc4x.apache.org/plc4x-pmc.rdf
> > [5] http://plc4x.apache.org/plc4x-doap.rdf
> > [6] 
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/comdev/projects.apache.org/trunk/data
> > [7] http://flex.apache.org/pmc_Flex.rdf
> >
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Re: Blog Post 'How To Become Committer' - feedback needed

[Rich Bowen]

This is really good stuff. Thanks for taking the time to write this.

I expect that Sally would be glad to shepherd this onto the main Apache 
blog. This looks like the kind of article that she tends to be looking for.


On 4/24/19 4:28 AM, Dmitriy Pavlov wrote:

Hi Community Developers,

Recently we've translated a blog post based on my recent talk on Apache
Ignite meetup/Moscow:
https://www.gridgain.com/resources/blog/how-become-open-source-committer-and-why-youd-want


I would appreciate if someone from more experienced Apache fellows can
provide some comments to this post (actually, this one is based on previous
feedback from Shane C.).

Would it be possible to re-post this blog in 'success at Apache' series?

Sincerely,
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Re: Ensure all projects have DOAP RDP files in place

[sebb]

On Wed, 24 Apr 2019 at 12:49, Christofer Dutz  wrote:
>
> Hi Sebb,
>
> thing is ... from what I can see in the IoT space, it seems till a week ago 
> no-one was really using the DOAP files for their projects and from looking at 
> the ones I know, it seemed they were pretty outdated. So I intentionally 
> moved the RDF files to a more prominent position.

I don't follow how moving the PMC RDF file makes any difference.
That file does not contain any reference to the IoT space apart
perhaps from the charter.
Generally the PMC RDF file can be created and then left alone.

It's the DOAP files that are important for identifying what products
are available in the various different fields of use.

> Chris
>
> Am 24.04.19, 10:29 schrieb "sebb" :
>
> On Wed, 24 Apr 2019 at 09:08, Christofer Dutz  
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I’m involved in the IoT track for ACNA and ACEU and was trying to use 
> [1] to find all Apache in the IoT space. At the time I first visited that 
> page, the Apache Ignite project was the only project to be listed there … now 
> the PLC4X and Camel have been added, but it seems most projects are not 
> maintaining their RDP files correctly.
> >
> > It would be cool if some people could help with fixing this issue for 
> the projects they are involved with.
> >
> > Perhaps as a little help. I did the following for the PLC4X project:
> >
> >   1.  Created the two RDF files (PMC description [2] and Project 
> description [3]) which are published through our project website and are 
> available at [4] and [5].
> >   2.  Registered them in the committees.xml and the projects.xml files 
> here [6]
> >   3.  Wait at most 24 hours
>
> There is no need to create a local PMC description RDF file.
> Most TLPs use the ones at
> 
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/comdev/projects.apache.org/trunk/data/committees/
>
> If yours does not exist yet, just create it and add it to committees.xml
> There is a template for this purpose:
> 
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/comdev/projects.apache.org/trunk/data/committees/_template.rdf
>
> > Perhaps if you use these as templates, it helps get the files up and 
> running.
> >
> > The main reason we chose to maintain these files in our project, is 
> that I have seen quite a lot of projects without maintained RDF files, 
> because they are so invisible to most of the folks … if for example you have 
> a look at the Flex ref file [7], it still mentions Alex as chair, which isn’t 
> the case anymore for more than 2 years now.
>
> To avoid duplication and staleness of data, it's best not to use the
> PMC RDF files for anything but the minimum, i.e.
> id, name and charter
>
> > Our hope is by managing these resources as part of the normal project, 
> they get a little more visibility and awareness.
>
> Unfortunately experience shows they still get forgotten, particularly
> the PMC file (as noted above).
>
> > Chris
> >
> > [1] https://projects.apache.org/projects.html?category
> > [2] 
> https://github.com/apache/plc4x/blob/develop/src/site/resources/plc4x-pmc.rdf
> > [3] 
> https://github.com/apache/plc4x/blob/develop/src/site/resources/plc4x-doap.rdf
> > [4] http://plc4x.apache.org/plc4x-pmc.rdf
> > [5] http://plc4x.apache.org/plc4x-doap.rdf
> > [6] 
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/comdev/projects.apache.org/trunk/data
> > [7] http://flex.apache.org/pmc_Flex.rdf
> >
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Re: Blog Post 'How To Become Committer' - feedback needed

[Shane Curcuru]

Dmitriy Pavlov wrote on 4/24/19 4:28 AM:
> Hi Community Developers,
> 
> Recently we've translated a blog post based on my recent talk on Apache
> Ignite meetup/Moscow:
> https://www.gridgain.com/resources/blog/how-become-open-source-committer-and-why-youd-want

Nice stuff.  Consider emphasizing non-code contributions a bit more:
mentioning testing, docs, and simply answering questions on lists are
also good ways to start working towards committership.

> I would appreciate if someone from more experienced Apache fellows can
> provide some comments to this post (actually, this one is based on previous
> feedback from Shane C.).
> 
> Would it be possible to re-post this blog in 'success at Apache' series?

Contact pr...@apache.org (a privately archived list), where Sally can
work with you to edit and publish for Success At Apache.

-- 

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Re: Ensure all projects have DOAP RDP files in place

[Christofer Dutz]

Hi Sebb,

thing is ... from what I can see in the IoT space, it seems till a week ago 
no-one was really using the DOAP files for their projects and from looking at 
the ones I know, it seemed they were pretty outdated. So I intentionally moved 
the RDF files to a more prominent position. 

Chris

Am 24.04.19, 10:29 schrieb "sebb" :

On Wed, 24 Apr 2019 at 09:08, Christofer Dutz  
wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I’m involved in the IoT track for ACNA and ACEU and was trying to use [1] 
to find all Apache in the IoT space. At the time I first visited that page, the 
Apache Ignite project was the only project to be listed there … now the PLC4X 
and Camel have been added, but it seems most projects are not maintaining their 
RDP files correctly.
>
> It would be cool if some people could help with fixing this issue for the 
projects they are involved with.
>
> Perhaps as a little help. I did the following for the PLC4X project:
>
>   1.  Created the two RDF files (PMC description [2] and Project 
description [3]) which are published through our project website and are 
available at [4] and [5].
>   2.  Registered them in the committees.xml and the projects.xml files 
here [6]
>   3.  Wait at most 24 hours

There is no need to create a local PMC description RDF file.
Most TLPs use the ones at

https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/comdev/projects.apache.org/trunk/data/committees/

If yours does not exist yet, just create it and add it to committees.xml
There is a template for this purpose:

https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/comdev/projects.apache.org/trunk/data/committees/_template.rdf

> Perhaps if you use these as templates, it helps get the files up and 
running.
>
> The main reason we chose to maintain these files in our project, is that 
I have seen quite a lot of projects without maintained RDF files, because they 
are so invisible to most of the folks … if for example you have a look at the 
Flex ref file [7], it still mentions Alex as chair, which isn’t the case 
anymore for more than 2 years now.

To avoid duplication and staleness of data, it's best not to use the
PMC RDF files for anything but the minimum, i.e.
id, name and charter

> Our hope is by managing these resources as part of the normal project, 
they get a little more visibility and awareness.

Unfortunately experience shows they still get forgotten, particularly
the PMC file (as noted above).

> Chris
>
> [1] https://projects.apache.org/projects.html?category
> [2] 
https://github.com/apache/plc4x/blob/develop/src/site/resources/plc4x-pmc.rdf
> [3] 
https://github.com/apache/plc4x/blob/develop/src/site/resources/plc4x-doap.rdf
> [4] http://plc4x.apache.org/plc4x-pmc.rdf
> [5] http://plc4x.apache.org/plc4x-doap.rdf
> [6] https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/comdev/projects.apache.org/trunk/data
> [7] http://flex.apache.org/pmc_Flex.rdf
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Re: [TIME SENSITIVE] ASF at OpenExpo/Madrid?

[Sally Khudairi]

Thanks, Jim. That's good to know!

They didn't know if we were committed for a booth or talks or anything ...it 
was a bit awkward. Yes, there'd been a changing of the guard with the marketing 
team a few years back (hello, initial eCatalogue fiasco!), and an overall 
scheduling disconnect that makes participation challenging.

As for Ignasi's statement of having to continually answer the "Why are you 
here?" question, Jim, you and I have had our fair share of that over the past 2 
decades ...it's a common one, and would likely help drive specific 
messaging/promotional materials for the less "usual suspect" events such as 
this.

Something to consider when planning for future events.

Kind regards,
Sally

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Vice President Sponsor Relations
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Tel +1 617 921 8656 | s...@apache.org

On Wed, Apr 24, 2019, at 07:36, Jim Jagielski wrote:
> FWIW, I was also invited to the event but due to the shortness of 
> notice, I was unable to arrange travel in time.
> 
> > On Apr 24, 2019, at 7:33 AM, Sally Khudairi  wrote:
> > 
> > Thanks, Kevin and Ignasi.
> > 
> > Each year seems to become more compressed. The urgency associated with 
> > their request --8-10 weeks away from the event-- indicates a bit of a 
> > scramble going on.
> > 
> > OK, I'll confirm that this is a "sorry, no" for 2019 and move on.
> > 
> > Kind regards,
> > Sally
> > 
> > - - - 
> > Vice President Marketing & Publicity
> > Vice President Sponsor Relations
> > The Apache Software Foundation
> > 
> > Tel +1 617 921 8656 | s...@apache.org
> > 
> > 
> > On Wed, Apr 24, 2019, at 07:21, Kevin A. McGrail wrote:
> >> Yeah, next year I will submit a cfp and maybe we can get an earlier notice 
> >> for the ebook and others. This year just seemed very compressed and I 
> >> would like to help their efforts more.
> >> 
> >> On Wed, Apr 24, 2019, 03:52 Ignasi Barrera  wrote:
> >>> Given that there has been no feedback in the other thread apart from mine,
> >>> I think we are not going to be there this year.
> >>> 
> >>> The event has a clear focus on business and open source is becoming kind 
> >>> of
> >>> a marketing vehicle for them. As I said before if this event becomes a
> >>> truly relevant one, I think it would make sense for us to be there and
> >>> share our vision on open source, but it is still far from being there.
> >>> There is still some value in being there sharing our vision and explaining
> >>> what the ASF is, as there was quite a lot of people coming to the booth in
> >>> the past editions, but I don't think it is worth the effort for a single
> >>> person given how the event is shaped today. At least I don't see _just
> >>> myself_ the entire day staying at the booth answering "why is the ASF in
> >>> this event?" and similar questions.
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> On Mon, 22 Apr 2019 at 12:16, Sally Khudairi  wrote:
> >>> 
>  Hello ComDev-ers --I hope you are all well.
>  
>  Can someone please confirm if we will be participating at OpenExpo Europe
>  this year? I don't see it listed at 
>  http://community.apache.org/calendars/
>  (I might be looking in the wrong place)
>  
>  They are asking me (again) about cross promotion, and I won't be getting
>  involved unless we're at the event. Do we plan on speaking? Having a 
>  booth?
>  
>  Many thanks,
>  Sally
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Re: [TIME SENSITIVE] ASF at OpenExpo/Madrid?

[Jim Jagielski]

FWIW, I was also invited to the event but due to the shortness of notice, I was 
unable to arrange travel in time.

> On Apr 24, 2019, at 7:33 AM, Sally Khudairi  wrote:
> 
> Thanks, Kevin and Ignasi.
> 
> Each year seems to become more compressed. The urgency associated with their 
> request --8-10 weeks away from the event-- indicates a bit of a scramble 
> going on.
> 
> OK, I'll confirm that this is a "sorry, no" for 2019 and move on.
> 
> Kind regards,
> Sally
> 
> - - - 
> Vice President Marketing & Publicity
> Vice President Sponsor Relations
> The Apache Software Foundation
> 
> Tel +1 617 921 8656 | s...@apache.org
> 
> 
> On Wed, Apr 24, 2019, at 07:21, Kevin A. McGrail wrote:
>> Yeah, next year I will submit a cfp and maybe we can get an earlier notice 
>> for the ebook and others. This year just seemed very compressed and I would 
>> like to help their efforts more.
>> 
>> On Wed, Apr 24, 2019, 03:52 Ignasi Barrera  wrote:
>>> Given that there has been no feedback in the other thread apart from mine,
>>> I think we are not going to be there this year.
>>> 
>>> The event has a clear focus on business and open source is becoming kind of
>>> a marketing vehicle for them. As I said before if this event becomes a
>>> truly relevant one, I think it would make sense for us to be there and
>>> share our vision on open source, but it is still far from being there.
>>> There is still some value in being there sharing our vision and explaining
>>> what the ASF is, as there was quite a lot of people coming to the booth in
>>> the past editions, but I don't think it is worth the effort for a single
>>> person given how the event is shaped today. At least I don't see _just
>>> myself_ the entire day staying at the booth answering "why is the ASF in
>>> this event?" and similar questions.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mon, 22 Apr 2019 at 12:16, Sally Khudairi  wrote:
>>> 
 Hello ComDev-ers --I hope you are all well.
 
 Can someone please confirm if we will be participating at OpenExpo Europe
 this year? I don't see it listed at http://community.apache.org/calendars/
 (I might be looking in the wrong place)
 
 They are asking me (again) about cross promotion, and I won't be getting
 involved unless we're at the event. Do we plan on speaking? Having a booth?
 
 Many thanks,
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Re: [TIME SENSITIVE] ASF at OpenExpo/Madrid?

[Sally Khudairi]

Thanks, Kevin and Ignasi.

Each year seems to become more compressed. The urgency associated with their 
request --8-10 weeks away from the event-- indicates a bit of a scramble going 
on.

OK, I'll confirm that this is a "sorry, no" for 2019 and move on.

Kind regards,
Sally

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Vice President Sponsor Relations
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On Wed, Apr 24, 2019, at 07:21, Kevin A. McGrail wrote:
> Yeah, next year I will submit a cfp and maybe we can get an earlier notice 
> for the ebook and others. This year just seemed very compressed and I would 
> like to help their efforts more.
> 
> On Wed, Apr 24, 2019, 03:52 Ignasi Barrera  wrote:
>> Given that there has been no feedback in the other thread apart from mine,
>>  I think we are not going to be there this year.
>> 
>>  The event has a clear focus on business and open source is becoming kind of
>>  a marketing vehicle for them. As I said before if this event becomes a
>>  truly relevant one, I think it would make sense for us to be there and
>>  share our vision on open source, but it is still far from being there.
>>  There is still some value in being there sharing our vision and explaining
>>  what the ASF is, as there was quite a lot of people coming to the booth in
>>  the past editions, but I don't think it is worth the effort for a single
>>  person given how the event is shaped today. At least I don't see _just
>>  myself_ the entire day staying at the booth answering "why is the ASF in
>>  this event?" and similar questions.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  On Mon, 22 Apr 2019 at 12:16, Sally Khudairi  wrote:
>> 
>>  > Hello ComDev-ers --I hope you are all well.
>>  >
>>  > Can someone please confirm if we will be participating at OpenExpo Europe
>>  > this year? I don't see it listed at http://community.apache.org/calendars/
>>  > (I might be looking in the wrong place)
>>  >
>>  > They are asking me (again) about cross promotion, and I won't be getting
>>  > involved unless we're at the event. Do we plan on speaking? Having a 
>> booth?
>>  >
>>  > Many thanks,
>>  > Sally
>>  >
>>  > - - -
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>>  > Vice President Sponsor Relations
>>  > The Apache Software Foundation
>>  >
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Re: [TIME SENSITIVE] ASF at OpenExpo/Madrid?

[Kevin A. McGrail]

Yeah, next year I will submit a cfp and maybe we can get an earlier notice
for the ebook and others.  This year just seemed very compressed and I
would like to help their efforts more.

On Wed, Apr 24, 2019, 03:52 Ignasi Barrera  wrote:

> Given that there has been no feedback in the other thread apart from mine,
> I think we are not going to be there this year.
>
> The event has a clear focus on business and open source is becoming kind of
> a marketing vehicle for them. As I said before if this event becomes a
> truly relevant one, I think it would make sense for us to be there and
> share our vision on open source, but it is still far from being there.
> There is still some value in being there sharing our vision and explaining
> what the ASF is, as there was quite a lot of people coming to the booth in
> the past editions, but I don't think it is worth the effort for a single
> person given how the event is shaped today. At least I don't see _just
> myself_ the entire day staying at the booth answering "why is the ASF in
> this event?" and similar questions.
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, 22 Apr 2019 at 12:16, Sally Khudairi  wrote:
>
> > Hello ComDev-ers --I hope you are all well.
> >
> > Can someone please confirm if we will be participating at OpenExpo Europe
> > this year? I don't see it listed at
> http://community.apache.org/calendars/
> > (I might be looking in the wrong place)
> >
> > They are asking me (again) about cross promotion, and I won't be getting
> > involved unless we're at the event. Do we plan on speaking? Having a
> booth?
> >
> > Many thanks,
> > Sally
> >
> > - - -
> > Vice President Marketing & Publicity
> > Vice President Sponsor Relations
> > The Apache Software Foundation
> >
> > Tel +1 617 921 8656 | s...@apache.org
> >
> > -
> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org
> > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org
> >
> >
>

Re: Blog Post 'How To Become Committer' - feedback needed

[Dmitriy Pavlov]

Sorry for 2nd email,

By re-post, I meant not a citation of this blog, but re-use of the text of
the blog. Of course, we can remove mentioning of employment.

If it is possible to whom I could contact to prepare a post?

ср, 24 апр. 2019 г. в 11:28, Dmitriy Pavlov :

> Hi Community Developers,
>
> Recently we've translated a blog post based on my recent talk on Apache
> Ignite meetup/Moscow:
>
> https://www.gridgain.com/resources/blog/how-become-open-source-committer-and-why-youd-want
>
>
> I would appreciate if someone from more experienced Apache fellows can
> provide some comments to this post (actually, this one is based on previous
> feedback from Shane C.).
>
> Would it be possible to re-post this blog in 'success at Apache' series?
>
> Sincerely,
> Dmitriy Pavlov
>
>
>
>
>

Re: Help with task: Ensure all Apache TLPs have Wikipedia pages

[Dmitriy Pavlov]

I'm going to, but I can't promise the exact date. It is in my todo-list

ср, 24 апр. 2019 г. в 12:56, Rich Bowen :

> At the risk of being overly bureaucratic, who is going to do this? Cause if
> "someone should" chances are no-one will.
>
> On Wed, Apr 24, 2019, 12:35 AM Swapnil M Mane 
> wrote:
>
> > +1 Rich and Dmitriy
> >
> >
> > - Best Regards,
> > Swapnil M Mane,
> > ofbiz.apache.org
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 3:07 AM Dmitriy Pavlov 
> wrote:
> >
> > > +1, I agree we can remove this too generic ticket because possible
> > > contributor may not know what exactly needs to be done.
> > >
> > > I'd better create a couple of specific tasks to be done for
> > > contributing/updating a particular project description.
> > >
> > > вт, 23 апр. 2019 г. в 17:58, Rich Bowen :
> > >
> > > > There is not currently a way to edit these HelpWanted tickets.
> Perhaps
> > > > since the project is well underway, we could just delete the ticket?
> > > >
> > > > On 4/23/19 7:49 AM, Swapnil M Mane wrote:
> > > > > Nice, thanks Dmitriy.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Apr 23, 2019 at 4:37 PM Dmitriy Pavlov  >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> It works fine, thanks,
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I've started to fill this doc. For now, I will skip projects that
> > are
> > > > >> managed by the same PMC. E.g. Apache Anakia does not have a
> separate
> > > > page,
> > > > >> but it is mentioned in
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apache_Velocity
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > > +1
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >> I will also skip attic and incubator projects. Unfortunately, I
> can
> > > not
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > > > +1
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >> edit this ticket so we need somehow share this list of project &
> > > > wikipedia
> > > > >> page correspondence sheet.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > > Agree, we should find way to add this sheet information in the
> > ticket.
> > > > > May be we can take help from Nick (creator of the ticket) or infra.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >> Sincerely,
> > > > >> Dmitriy Pavlov
> > > > >>
> > > > >> вт, 23 апр. 2019 г. в 10:39, Swapnil M Mane <
> > swapnilmm...@apache.org
> > > >:
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> Great Dmitriy, thoughts travels :-)
> > > > >>> I have granted you the access, kindly check.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> - Best Regards,
> > > > >>> Swapnil M Mane,
> > > > >>> ofbiz.apache.org
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> On Tue, Apr 23, 2019 at 1:01 PM Dmitriy Pavlov <
> dpav...@apache.org
> > >
> > > > >> wrote:
> > > > >>>
> > > >  Hi Swapnil M Mane,
> > > > 
> > > >  I was thinking about absolutely the same approach. I've
> requested
> > > edit
> > > >  access, could you please grant it?
> > > > 
> > > >  Sincerely,
> > > >  Dmitriy Pavlov
> > > > 
> > > >  вт, 23 апр. 2019 г. в 09:08, Swapnil M Mane <
> > > swapnilmm...@apache.org
> > > > >:
> > > > 
> > > > > Hello Rich and team,
> > > > >
> > > > > As we see, various people are willing to help for this task of
> > > > >> ensuring
> > > >  all
> > > > > Apache TLPs have Wikipedia pages [1].
> > > > > I see, some of the TLPs are having there Wikipedia page in
> draft
> > > > >> status
> > > > > (might be some projects don't even have the page).
> > > > > So, here the approach we can follow to complete this task.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have created a Google sheet [2] containing the list of all
> > > Apache's
> > > > >>> top
> > > > > level projects.
> > > > > All those contributors who are willing to help us, we can share
> > > this
> > > >  sheet
> > > > > with them with *edit* permission.
> > > > > Then they simply have to check, is the Wikipedia page for
> project
> > > > >>> exist,
> > > >  if
> > > > > yes put the link of page else put the appropriate comment and
> > mark
> > > > >> row
> > > > >>> as
> > > > > red.
> > > > > The sheet contain Attic and Incubating project, we can ignore
> > them.
> > > > >
> > > > > After this we can contact the respective project community (who
> > > don't
> > > >  have
> > > > > Wikipedia page) to work on Wikipedia page of project.
> > > > >
> > > > > Please let me know if your thoughts on this.
> > > > >
> > > > > [1]
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > 
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://helpwanted.apache.org/task.html?0b349bee48c7e47a20fb29222b8217fa61b11d31
> > > > > [2]
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > 
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1pBjiBB4ROB7QrIIFMLSbDUMyPjmDCf9xHI1rZnCVKd8/edit?usp=sharing
> > > > >
> > > > > P.S. Looping in Nick, since I see the task is created by him.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > - Best Regards,
> > > > > Swapnil M Mane,
> > > > > ofbiz.apache.org
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 11:10 PM Dmitriy Pavlov <
> > > dpav...@apache.org>
> 

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Welcome Paul Berschick as Committer

[Paul Berschick]

Thanks everyone! I'm happy to be on board! If there's anything I can do
for you, please just let me know :)

Best,
Paul

Am 23.04.19 um 19:21 schrieb Griselda Cuevas:
> Con grats! and Excited to collaborate more! 
>
>
>   
>
> Gris Cuevas Zambrano
>
> Open Source Strategist - Big Data Analytics
>
> +1 (650) 772-2947
>
> 1160 N. Mathilda Avenue , Sunnyvale, CA 94089
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, 23 Apr 2019 at 04:19, Myrle Krantz  > wrote:
>
> Hey all,
>
> Please welcome Paul Berschick as a committer for community
> development.  He
> helped us put together the Apache Roadshow in Berlin last year, doing
> everything from booking the venue to organizing the video to 
> communicating
> with the printer to get the right colors on the Apache feather on the
> conference t-shirt.
>
> This year he's helping us put together ApacheCon in Berliln.
>
> Thank you for everything you've done Paul, and we look forward to
> continuing to work with you!
>
> Best Regards,
> Myrle
>

-- 
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Re: Help with task: Ensure all Apache TLPs have Wikipedia pages

[Rich Bowen]

At the risk of being overly bureaucratic, who is going to do this? Cause if
"someone should" chances are no-one will.

On Wed, Apr 24, 2019, 12:35 AM Swapnil M Mane 
wrote:

> +1 Rich and Dmitriy
>
>
> - Best Regards,
> Swapnil M Mane,
> ofbiz.apache.org
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 3:07 AM Dmitriy Pavlov  wrote:
>
> > +1, I agree we can remove this too generic ticket because possible
> > contributor may not know what exactly needs to be done.
> >
> > I'd better create a couple of specific tasks to be done for
> > contributing/updating a particular project description.
> >
> > вт, 23 апр. 2019 г. в 17:58, Rich Bowen :
> >
> > > There is not currently a way to edit these HelpWanted tickets. Perhaps
> > > since the project is well underway, we could just delete the ticket?
> > >
> > > On 4/23/19 7:49 AM, Swapnil M Mane wrote:
> > > > Nice, thanks Dmitriy.
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Apr 23, 2019 at 4:37 PM Dmitriy Pavlov 
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> It works fine, thanks,
> > > >>
> > > >> I've started to fill this doc. For now, I will skip projects that
> are
> > > >> managed by the same PMC. E.g. Apache Anakia does not have a separate
> > > page,
> > > >> but it is mentioned in
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apache_Velocity
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > > +1
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> I will also skip attic and incubator projects. Unfortunately, I can
> > not
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > > +1
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> edit this ticket so we need somehow share this list of project &
> > > wikipedia
> > > >> page correspondence sheet.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > > Agree, we should find way to add this sheet information in the
> ticket.
> > > > May be we can take help from Nick (creator of the ticket) or infra.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> Sincerely,
> > > >> Dmitriy Pavlov
> > > >>
> > > >> вт, 23 апр. 2019 г. в 10:39, Swapnil M Mane <
> swapnilmm...@apache.org
> > >:
> > > >>
> > > >>> Great Dmitriy, thoughts travels :-)
> > > >>> I have granted you the access, kindly check.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> - Best Regards,
> > > >>> Swapnil M Mane,
> > > >>> ofbiz.apache.org
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> On Tue, Apr 23, 2019 at 1:01 PM Dmitriy Pavlov  >
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > >  Hi Swapnil M Mane,
> > > 
> > >  I was thinking about absolutely the same approach. I've requested
> > edit
> > >  access, could you please grant it?
> > > 
> > >  Sincerely,
> > >  Dmitriy Pavlov
> > > 
> > >  вт, 23 апр. 2019 г. в 09:08, Swapnil M Mane <
> > swapnilmm...@apache.org
> > > >:
> > > 
> > > > Hello Rich and team,
> > > >
> > > > As we see, various people are willing to help for this task of
> > > >> ensuring
> > >  all
> > > > Apache TLPs have Wikipedia pages [1].
> > > > I see, some of the TLPs are having there Wikipedia page in draft
> > > >> status
> > > > (might be some projects don't even have the page).
> > > > So, here the approach we can follow to complete this task.
> > > >
> > > > I have created a Google sheet [2] containing the list of all
> > Apache's
> > > >>> top
> > > > level projects.
> > > > All those contributors who are willing to help us, we can share
> > this
> > >  sheet
> > > > with them with *edit* permission.
> > > > Then they simply have to check, is the Wikipedia page for project
> > > >>> exist,
> > >  if
> > > > yes put the link of page else put the appropriate comment and
> mark
> > > >> row
> > > >>> as
> > > > red.
> > > > The sheet contain Attic and Incubating project, we can ignore
> them.
> > > >
> > > > After this we can contact the respective project community (who
> > don't
> > >  have
> > > > Wikipedia page) to work on Wikipedia page of project.
> > > >
> > > > Please let me know if your thoughts on this.
> > > >
> > > > [1]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > 
> > > >>>
> > > >>
> > >
> >
> https://helpwanted.apache.org/task.html?0b349bee48c7e47a20fb29222b8217fa61b11d31
> > > > [2]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > 
> > > >>>
> > > >>
> > >
> >
> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1pBjiBB4ROB7QrIIFMLSbDUMyPjmDCf9xHI1rZnCVKd8/edit?usp=sharing
> > > >
> > > > P.S. Looping in Nick, since I see the task is created by him.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > - Best Regards,
> > > > Swapnil M Mane,
> > > > ofbiz.apache.org
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 11:10 PM Dmitriy Pavlov <
> > dpav...@apache.org>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Sorry, I've misread the initial email. I'll double check if
> there
> > > >> is
> > > >>> a
> > > >> missing project in Wikipedia.
> > > >>
> > > >> Sincerely,
> > > >> Dmitriy Pavlov
> > > >>
> > > >> пн, 18 февр. 2019 г. в 20:32, Dmitriy Pavlov <
> dpav...@apache.org
> > >:
> > > >>
> > > >>> Hi Rich,
> > > >>>
> > > >>> The task is still in the list of help-wanted service here
> > > >>>
> > > 

Re: Ensure all projects have DOAP RDP files in place

[sebb]

On Wed, 24 Apr 2019 at 09:08, Christofer Dutz  wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I’m involved in the IoT track for ACNA and ACEU and was trying to use [1] to 
> find all Apache in the IoT space. At the time I first visited that page, the 
> Apache Ignite project was the only project to be listed there … now the PLC4X 
> and Camel have been added, but it seems most projects are not maintaining 
> their RDP files correctly.
>
> It would be cool if some people could help with fixing this issue for the 
> projects they are involved with.
>
> Perhaps as a little help. I did the following for the PLC4X project:
>
>   1.  Created the two RDF files (PMC description [2] and Project description 
> [3]) which are published through our project website and are available at [4] 
> and [5].
>   2.  Registered them in the committees.xml and the projects.xml files here 
> [6]
>   3.  Wait at most 24 hours

There is no need to create a local PMC description RDF file.
Most TLPs use the ones at
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/comdev/projects.apache.org/trunk/data/committees/

If yours does not exist yet, just create it and add it to committees.xml
There is a template for this purpose:
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/comdev/projects.apache.org/trunk/data/committees/_template.rdf

> Perhaps if you use these as templates, it helps get the files up and running.
>
> The main reason we chose to maintain these files in our project, is that I 
> have seen quite a lot of projects without maintained RDF files, because they 
> are so invisible to most of the folks … if for example you have a look at the 
> Flex ref file [7], it still mentions Alex as chair, which isn’t the case 
> anymore for more than 2 years now.

To avoid duplication and staleness of data, it's best not to use the
PMC RDF files for anything but the minimum, i.e.
id, name and charter

> Our hope is by managing these resources as part of the normal project, they 
> get a little more visibility and awareness.

Unfortunately experience shows they still get forgotten, particularly
the PMC file (as noted above).

> Chris
>
> [1] https://projects.apache.org/projects.html?category
> [2] 
> https://github.com/apache/plc4x/blob/develop/src/site/resources/plc4x-pmc.rdf
> [3] 
> https://github.com/apache/plc4x/blob/develop/src/site/resources/plc4x-doap.rdf
> [4] http://plc4x.apache.org/plc4x-pmc.rdf
> [5] http://plc4x.apache.org/plc4x-doap.rdf
> [6] https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/comdev/projects.apache.org/trunk/data
> [7] http://flex.apache.org/pmc_Flex.rdf
>

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Blog Post 'How To Become Committer' - feedback needed

[Dmitriy Pavlov]

Hi Community Developers,

Recently we've translated a blog post based on my recent talk on Apache
Ignite meetup/Moscow:
https://www.gridgain.com/resources/blog/how-become-open-source-committer-and-why-youd-want


I would appreciate if someone from more experienced Apache fellows can
provide some comments to this post (actually, this one is based on previous
feedback from Shane C.).

Would it be possible to re-post this blog in 'success at Apache' series?

Sincerely,
Dmitriy Pavlov

Some Multi Markup Language Project

[Lalo Torres]

Hi, Apache Devs

MML: Multi Markup Language — When one markup language just isn’t enough

Source :
https://www.balisage.net/Proceedings/vol15/author-pkg/Lee01/BalisageVol15-Lee01.html

Is there some project that works in that direction?

thanks in beforehand...

Ensure all projects have DOAP RDP files in place

[Christofer Dutz]

Hi all,

I’m involved in the IoT track for ACNA and ACEU and was trying to use [1] to 
find all Apache in the IoT space. At the time I first visited that page, the 
Apache Ignite project was the only project to be listed there … now the PLC4X 
and Camel have been added, but it seems most projects are not maintaining their 
RDP files correctly.

It would be cool if some people could help with fixing this issue for the 
projects they are involved with.

Perhaps as a little help. I did the following for the PLC4X project:

  1.  Created the two RDF files (PMC description [2] and Project description 
[3]) which are published through our project website and are available at [4] 
and [5].
  2.  Registered them in the committees.xml and the projects.xml files here [6]
  3.  Wait at most 24 hours

Perhaps if you use these as templates, it helps get the files up and running.

The main reason we chose to maintain these files in our project, is that I have 
seen quite a lot of projects without maintained RDF files, because they are so 
invisible to most of the folks … if for example you have a look at the Flex ref 
file [7], it still mentions Alex as chair, which isn’t the case anymore for 
more than 2 years now.
Our hope is by managing these resources as part of the normal project, they get 
a little more visibility and awareness.

Chris

[1] https://projects.apache.org/projects.html?category
[2] 
https://github.com/apache/plc4x/blob/develop/src/site/resources/plc4x-pmc.rdf
[3] 
https://github.com/apache/plc4x/blob/develop/src/site/resources/plc4x-doap.rdf
[4] http://plc4x.apache.org/plc4x-pmc.rdf
[5] http://plc4x.apache.org/plc4x-doap.rdf
[6] https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/comdev/projects.apache.org/trunk/data
[7] http://flex.apache.org/pmc_Flex.rdf

Re: [TIME SENSITIVE] ASF at OpenExpo/Madrid?

[Ignasi Barrera]

Given that there has been no feedback in the other thread apart from mine,
I think we are not going to be there this year.

The event has a clear focus on business and open source is becoming kind of
a marketing vehicle for them. As I said before if this event becomes a
truly relevant one, I think it would make sense for us to be there and
share our vision on open source, but it is still far from being there.
There is still some value in being there sharing our vision and explaining
what the ASF is, as there was quite a lot of people coming to the booth in
the past editions, but I don't think it is worth the effort for a single
person given how the event is shaped today. At least I don't see _just
myself_ the entire day staying at the booth answering "why is the ASF in
this event?" and similar questions.




On Mon, 22 Apr 2019 at 12:16, Sally Khudairi  wrote:

> Hello ComDev-ers --I hope you are all well.
>
> Can someone please confirm if we will be participating at OpenExpo Europe
> this year? I don't see it listed at http://community.apache.org/calendars/
> (I might be looking in the wrong place)
>
> They are asking me (again) about cross promotion, and I won't be getting
> involved unless we're at the event. Do we plan on speaking? Having a booth?
>
> Many thanks,
> Sally
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Re: Help with task: Ensure all Apache TLPs have Wikipedia pages

[Swapnil M Mane]

Hi Corey,

Thank you for your interest in the help task.
Please follow these steps to help us in this task.

We have created a Google sheet [1] (edit access to are provided you)
containing the list of all Apache's top level projects.
Please check, is the Wikipedia page exist for that particular project, if
yes put the link of page else put the appropriate comment and mark row as
red.

Some things to remember:
1.) The sheet also contain Attic and Incubating projects, please ignore
them. Our focus is Apache's top level projects.
2.) Some projects that are managed by the same PMC, e.g. Apache Anakia does
not have a separate page,
but it is mentioned in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apache_Velocity. So
for these cases, same Wikipedia page will be used.

If you any queries, please free to contact Dmitriy (dpav...@apache.org) or
me (swapnilmm...@apache.org).

[1]
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1pBjiBB4ROB7QrIIFMLSbDUMyPjmDCf9xHI1rZnCVKd8/edit?usp=sharing

- Thanks & Regards,
Swapnil M Mane,
ofbiz.apache.org



On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 7:13 PM Corey Duvall-kenyon <
dufflebagriche...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I would like to help out with the task listed at /task.html?0b349bee
>