Time for Change

2014-04-01 Thread Greg Reddin
Hi all,

It is with mixed emotions that I must admit that it's time for me to
step down from the Flex PMC. It was an honor to be a mentor to this
project through incubation and I can say without reservation that this
community has been fully integrated into Apache. It's time for me to
recognize that I simply don't have the bandwidth to contribute as I
had hoped I would. I need to leave things in other very capable hands.

Flex is different from a lot of Apache projects in terms of how it got
here and the community around it. I think that maybe the community is
still trying to navigate how Apache is not only different from Adobe,
but also different from GitHub, SourceForge, and other open source
environments. In some ways I think those differences are good for the
Flex community, but in other ways I think the Flex community brings
something to Apache that will help Apache grow into the future. I look
forward to seeing more of the Flex PMC become ASF members and having a
greater impact on the foundation! I want to be clear that there is no
bad blood between me and anybody on the PMC. I'd be happy to work with
any of you again in the future.

I'll stay subscribed to the private@ list so if there are mentor-like
questions to be answered I'll be happy to do my best. I will probably
unsubscribe from the dev@ list in a few days to reduce my daily email
load.

Thanks to everyone for allowing me to be a part of the community. I
wish you all the best going forward!

Greg


Re: [DRAFT] Apache Flex December 2013 Report

2013-12-03 Thread Greg Reddin
On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 4:52 PM, Alex Harui aha...@adobe.com wrote:
 I'm wondering if the board really does appoint the char as much as
 approves the PMC recommendation.  If we change chairs, we only provide
 notice and wait 72 hours.  AFAIK, there is no action from the board
 required.  This could just be another copy/paste problem of bad text like
 the term lazy majority.

No the chair is appointed by resolution of the board. The original
resolution that created the project named a chair and it requires
another resolution to change the chair.

The board normally does approve what the PMC recommends, but I have
seen a case or two where the board intervened.

Greg


Re: LinkedIn requests

2013-11-06 Thread Greg Reddin
I agree. Reject.

On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 2:57 PM, Justin Mclean jus...@classsoftware.com wrote:
 Hi,

 Every once in a while we get an Invitation to connect on LinkedIn email 
 for moderation.
 Reject I say. They could be phishing spam or sent by someone just sending out 
 blanket requests (connect to all my friends).

 Does it make sense have these mailing lists connected via LinkedIn?
 IMO no. Not unless we aded Apache Flex as an organisation/companies and 
 listed all of the committer/PMC members under it.

 Thanks,
 Justin


Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Flex Bylaws

2013-10-01 Thread Greg Reddin
Hi all,

I hate to muddy the waters here, but I'll add this: When Tiles became
a TLP we had the bylaws clause in our resolution. I don't remember all
the context, but I'm pretty sure the objections came from some board
members at the time (2006). The objections were that the ASF bylaws
are the bylaws of projects. Others argued that project bylaws were a
way for projects to get more specific about how their projects are run
within the ASF guidelines. If my memory serves me correctly, the
bottom line was that projects are free to adopt bylaws if they wish
but that they are not a requirement.

Because of that I think Crossley's email on Incubator was a little too
settled. I don't think it's a settled thing that projects must adopt
bylaws. That said, I think the things you are trying to formalize
through establishing bylaws are good things to formalize. It's good to
have them in writing and pointed to in a board report. If objections
are raised in the future, we can point back to the adopted document..
We may still have to change (If you've followed the discussions on
other lists, you'll see that there is not always consensus about these
rules), but at least we will have something in writing to discuss.

So all of that is to say that I think this is a good thing and we
should do it. But we may end up having to call them policies instead
of bylaws once presented to the board and we may trigger some crazy
discussion of them once they are presented to the board. Or they may
fly completely under the radar and not be noticed.

Greg


Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Flex Bylaws

2013-10-01 Thread Greg Reddin
On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 4:41 AM, Erik de Bruin e...@ixsoftware.nl wrote:
 I very much prefer to set a bar for active. The only time the inactive
 PMC members come out of the closet is if they are rallied to vote for
 a controversial issue. If you're not involved in the project
 (anymore), I don't think you should be allowed to have a binding vote.

Erik

There's a longstanding principle of Apache that merit never expires.
The idea is that if a person has ever contributed something worthy of
giving him or her a binding voice on the project, that contribution is
permanent and the person always has a binding voice on the project.

It's a recognition that people's priorities and interests change and
that we should allow people to move in and out of the daily function
of the project as their priorities drive them. So I think there are
two things we should remember:

1) As a project we should make it easy for PMC members to move in and
out of the PMC. If a PMC member resigns most projects consider them in
emeritus status and that means they can rejoin the project simply by
asking. We should also invite people to join the PMC recognizing it's
a permanent status.

2) As individuals we should let the project know when our priorities
have changed by resigning from the PMC, knowing that if our priorities
change again, we can easily come back.

Greg


Re: Swiz Donation: Next Steps (was Re: [VOTE][RESULTS] Oprtional MVC/IOC Frameworks Donation: Swiz Framework Donation)

2013-06-06 Thread Greg Reddin
On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 11:00 AM, Carlos Rovira 
carlos.rov...@codeoscopic.com wrote:

 hehe I only want to say that history is written in the internet so is easy
 to prove that Chris Scott is the author, but I see that he must prove it
 himself.


We could not in good conscience accept a donation without written, clear
intentions from the author. I suspect it will require a software grant and
the author will need to go through some legal paperwork to assent that he
has ownership of the code and is willing to donate it to the ASF.

I need to get more familiar with the details of what is required for the
ASF to accept software donations, but it's a complicated subject and time
is short. I do know that we want to be very sure we have all the details in
order so we can be confident in saying that we have the right to continue
to produce the software.

Greg


Re: [VOTE] Swiz Framework Donation to Apache Flex

2013-05-29 Thread Greg Reddin
+1 (binding)


On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 4:43 AM, Carlos Rovira carlosrov...@apache.orgwrote:

 After proposal thread (http://markmail.org/message/jtedmmx5djqen52l),comes
 the vote thread.

 This thread is to decide if we finally adopt Swiz Framework under Apache
 Flex, since there is multiple opinions in the Apache Flex community.

 points to take into account:

 * Swiz is a great addition to Apache Flex since it complements de SDK with
 a microarquitecture for application MVC, IOC, DI very simple and well
 designed.
 * This will be a project like flexunit or utilities. So it's optional a NOT
 part of the main sdk.
 * Swiz is already in 1.4.0 stable version, under Apache License 2.0, has
 its community and right now there's no maintenance or upgrade since people
 behind the project is no longer working with Flex technology.
 * Donation will be 1.4.0 source code and wiki content.
 * Future plans: if donation is successful, Chris Scott (creator of Swiz)
 will want to donate experimental 2.0.0 branch that brings AOP support, a
 feature that could bring a great benefit to Apache Flex since it brings
 something very new to client web technologies and that will require
 evolution at compiler level (introducing compile time weaving).

 Points that some people argument to not accept the donation:
 * There is other frameworks like Swiz out there in the same situation and
 this donation could make Swiz the preferred/recommended IOC framework of
 use.

 Points to take into account:
 * Erik de bruin stated that maybe the problem is what to do with it under
 Apache Flex umbrella.


 Please make your vote.

 Thanks

 Carlos Rovira



Re: [PROPOSAL] Swiz Framework Donation to Apache Flex

2013-05-28 Thread Greg Reddin
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 9:52 AM, Carlos Rovira carlosrov...@apache.orgwrote:

 Hi,

 I want to propose the donation of Swiz Framework to Apache Flex.


This would be awesome in my opinion :-)  Just remember that the donation
process could get complicated if Chris doesn't hold the copyright to all
the code to be donated.

Greg


Re: [PROPOSAL] Swiz Framework Donation to Apache Flex

2013-05-28 Thread Greg Reddin
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 10:33 AM, dude d...@atheist.com wrote:

 Good luck, but I'd rather see Parsley integrated into Apache Flex.


That's the only concern I'd have about the donation. I know Swiz is one
framework among several. So we'd have to manage it carefully to keep from
alienating part of the community.

Greg


Re: [PROPOSAL] Swiz Framework Donation to Apache Flex

2013-05-28 Thread Greg Reddin
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 10:37 AM, Roland Zwaga rol...@stackandheap.comwrote:

 On 28 May 2013 17:33, dude d...@atheist.com wrote:

  Good luck, but I'd rather see Parsley integrated into Apache Flex.
 
 

 Personally, the above response shows exactly the reason why I think there
 shouldn't be any
 application framework integrated into Apache Flex.  Too many opinions on
 the matter...


But, there's no reason we can't integrate it as a sub-project or incubate
it. If it develops a community it can become its own TLP.


Re: [PROPOSAL] Swiz Framework Donation to Apache Flex

2013-05-28 Thread Greg Reddin
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 11:18 AM, Alex Harui aha...@adobe.com wrote:


 Greg, do you think donations like these need to have a goal of being
 integrated with Apache Flex or becoming its own project?  Personally, I'd
 be ok with Apache Flex being a warehouse of all kinds of Flex-related code
 even if there is no active development for it.


There's a couple of things to consider here:

1) The board does not favor umbrella projects. Jakarta was an umbrella
project and it contained (at one time) Struts, Tomcat, Commons, JMeter, and
a whole bunch of Java-related projects. It became clear that the Jakarta
community was too fragmented to get consensus so it spun off all those
projects into TLPs. That could easily start to happen here.

2) This mailing list is already too high-traffic to follow. Practically, we
could probably already split up the Flex project into multiple projects. It
seems to me that folks are starting to gel around different efforts, like
getting new releases of the SDK, vs. compilers, etc. It could be that we
need to form new PMCs or it could be that we just need to enact
sub-projects. But we have to be careful with sub-projects to avoid point 1
above.

It's hard to know where the breaking point is. Probably it has to do with
whether the community is having a hard time pushing out releases or just
whether it feels fragmented. I'm not proposing that we break up now, but
we should probably be thinking about whether the Falcon project, for
example, has its own distinct community from the SDK.

Greg


Re: [DISCUSS] Github based Whiteboard proposal

2013-05-06 Thread Greg Reddin
Just wanted to note that I think this proposal alleviates my concerns about 
using github for whiteboards. If I can find time I'm going to search other 
apache archives to see if there are other things we need to consider. But for 
now I feel like this supports apache's desires for open development and code 
provenance. Thanks for going to all the trouble putting it together. 

Greg 

Sent from my mobile device.

On May 6, 2013, at 6:03 PM, OmPrakash Muppirala bigosma...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 3:48 PM, Alex Harui aha...@adobe.com wrote:
 
 Om,
 
 Can you update the proposal as to whether you have to use your a.o email or
 if allowing aliases works?
 
 -Alex
 I have posted the proposal here:
 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLEX/Proposal+-+Github+based+Whiteboard
 
 All apache.org emails are configured to be aliases for committer's personal
 email ids.  So, you will need to add the committer's personal email id to
 the commits@f.a.o list in any case.
 
 The only advantage of adding the apache.org email id in GitHub would be
 that the 'from' field will have the apache.org email id.  This keeps it
 consistent with Apache Git's emails.
 
 So, I have updated the proposal to say that it is 'recommended, but not
 compulsory' for adding the apache.org email address as the default email in
 GitHub.
 
 Thanks,
 Om
 
 
 
 On 5/6/13 3:35 PM, OmPrakash Muppirala bigosma...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Any other thoughts regarding this process?
 
 If not, I would like to test this workflow with a couple of volunteer
 committers.  Anyone wants to volunteer? :-)
 
 Thanks,
 Om
 
 
 On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 8:55 PM, Alex Harui aha...@adobe.com wrote:
 
 
 
 
 On 5/2/13 6:21 PM, Dasa Paddock dpadd...@esri.com wrote:
 
 
 6.  The committer adds their committerAlias@apache.org email
 address as
 their default email in their github account.
 Anyway around to do this? I assume this is so email to the mailing
 list
 re
 changes are not rejected.
 
 I'm not sure, but maybe it's enough to just add your apache.orgaddress
 to
 your Email Settings [1] and set the repo's user.email config so that
 the
 apache.org address is used as the commit author [2].
 
 [1]: https://github.com/settings/emails
 [2]: https://help.github.com/articles/setting-your-email-in-git
 I'm ok adding aliases for the committers who don't want to use their
 apache.org.  I think I did so for Om in order for him to try this.
 
 --
 Alex Harui
 Flex SDK Team
 Adobe Systems, Inc.
 http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui
 
 --
 Alex Harui
 Flex SDK Team
 Adobe Systems, Inc.
 http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui
 
 


Re: Whiteboard on GitHub - update

2013-04-26 Thread Greg Reddin
I'm a moderator. Assuming the mails don't cause the spam filter to be
engaged, I'll moderate them through.


On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 2:25 PM, OmPrakash Muppirala
bigosma...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 12:16 PM, Alex Harui aha...@adobe.com wrote:

  Om,
 
  Maybe I wasn't clear.  I think a key aspect of whiteboards on GitHub is
 to
  have a commit to your whiteboard be seen on the commits@flex.a.o list by
  anyone subscribed to commits@f.a.o without other work on their part like
  signing up with GitHub or being added as a member of the an
 organization.
 
  We can't get an email to commits@f.a.o to happen for all activity on
 your
  whiteboard?
 
 
 Short answer: it is doable.

 Long answer:
 I can add an organization-wide notification setting to send emails to:
 comm...@flex.apache.org.  The only problem is the list moderator for
 commits@f.a.o should manually add notificati...@github.com to the list so
 that the emails can go through.  Who is the moderator of commits@f.a.o?

 Thanks,
 Om


 
  On 4/26/13 11:04 AM, OmPrakash Muppirala bigosma...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Alex Harui aha...@adobe.com wrote:
  
   Om,
  
   Thanks for working on this.  Some questions:
  
   1) do you have this actually setup?  If so, can you commit something
 to
   your
   whiteboard so I can see what the notification email looks like?
  
  
   Yes, but with a private account.  I can add you as a member of this
 test
   organization.
   We can 'watch' repos and notifications emails can be configured [1],
 [2]
   More details on Organiations available here [3]
  
  
   2) When the contributor sends the pull request, how does the committer
  get
   notified?   Can an email go to the commits list?  Or does the
 committer
   only
   get notified off-list?
  
  
   We should be able to make the notifications go to any and multiple
 email
   ids [4].  We will have to add the notificati...@github.com email id
 to
   our list.
  
   Thanks,
   Om
  
   [1] https://help.github.com/articles/watching-repositories
   [2] https://help.github.com/articles/configuring-notification-emails
   [3] https://help.github.com/categories/2/articles
   [4]
  
 
 https://help.github.com/articles/notifications#per-organization-email-routing
  
  
  
   -Alex
  
   On 4/26/13 10:27 AM, OmPrakash Muppirala bigosma...@gmail.com
  wrote:
  
   I have been experimenting with a GitHub based workflow for the
  whiteboard
   repos for our committers.  Here is the workflow I would like to
  propose:
  
   * Apache Flex creates an 'Organization' account GitHub
   * Each Apache Flex committer is encouraged to create an account on
  GitHub
   * The committer then posts their GitHub id on dev@flex.apache.organd
   asks
   to be added to the ApacheFlex@GitHub account
   * The Apache Flex PMC will add the committer's GitHub id to the
   ApacheFlex@GitHub account.
   * In the contributing.md file [1] at the root of each committer's
  github
   project, there will be information about Apache's contribution
  guidelines
   including a link to the ICLA [2]
   * Any public contributor is free to fork an ApacheFlex committer's
  github
   project.
   * The contributor makes a few modifications and is ready to send a
  'Pull
   request' to the Apache Flex committer
   * Before the 'Pull Request' can be sent, GitHub will automatically
  point
   the contributor to take a look at the contribution guidelines first.
   * Theoretically the contributor reads the contribution guidelines,
  agrees
   to it implicitly and clicks the 'Send Pull Request' button.
   * The Apache Flex Committer now will have a chance to peruse the
  commits
   and decide whether or not to accept the pull request.
  
   There is another alternative I have been working on as well.  There
 is
  a
   CLAHub [3] plugin for GitHub.  The workflow for this is described in
  the
   same link [3].  I have been experimenting with this plugin but have
  found
   various issues with it.  I am currently working with the plugin's
   creator,
   Jason Morrison and support@GitHub to fix these issues.  They have
 been
   very
   helpful so far.  I hope to be able to fix all the issues soon and
 send
   out
   a demo.
  
   Please let me know if the above mentioned steps are sufficient or if
   something like CLAHub plugin would be better.
  
   Thanks,
   Om
  
  
   [1] https://github.com/blog/1184-contributing-guidelines
   [2] http://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.txt
   [3] http://www.clahub.com/
  
   --
   Alex Harui
   Flex SDK Team
   Adobe Systems, Inc.
   http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui
  
  
 
  --
  Alex Harui
  Flex SDK Team
  Adobe Systems, Inc.
  http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui
 
 



Re: Whiteboard on GitHub - update

2013-04-26 Thread Greg Reddin
I haven't seen any mod requests yet. I'm traveling this weekend and will have 
limited network access. I will try to look into it again next week if I don't 
see anything before. 

Sent from my mobile device.

On Apr 26, 2013, at 4:42 PM, OmPrakash Muppirala bigosma...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 2:26 PM, OmPrakash Muppirala
 bigosma...@gmail.comwrote:
 
 On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 12:28 PM, Greg Reddin gred...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I'm a moderator. Assuming the mails don't cause the spam filter to be
 engaged, I'll moderate them through.
 Great!  I just sent out a test notification to commits@flex.apache.orgfrom 
 GitHub.  Can you check if it came through?
 
 Another alternative would be to ask the committers to use their 
 apache.orgemail ids for their GitHub email ids.  And we can select the 
 option of
 GitHub sending the email from the Author's email.  This way there is no
 moderation required because commits@f.a.o seems to allow all apache.orgemail 
 ids.
 
 GitHub validates the email addresses before it sends emails from those
 addresses.
 
 Thanks,
 Om
 
 
 I've sent another test email notification this time from my
 bigosma...@apache.org address. It did not automatically come through as I
 expected.  Please take a look.
 
 Thanks,
 Om
 
 
 
 
 
 On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 2:25 PM, OmPrakash Muppirala
 bigosma...@gmail.comwrote:
 
 On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 12:16 PM, Alex Harui aha...@adobe.com wrote:
 
 Om,
 
 Maybe I wasn't clear.  I think a key aspect of whiteboards on GitHub
 is
 to
 have a commit to your whiteboard be seen on the commits@flex.a.olist by
 anyone subscribed to commits@f.a.o without other work on their part
 like
 signing up with GitHub or being added as a member of the an
 organization.
 
 We can't get an email to commits@f.a.o to happen for all activity on
 your
 whiteboard?
 Short answer: it is doable.
 
 Long answer:
 I can add an organization-wide notification setting to send emails to:
 comm...@flex.apache.org.  The only problem is the list moderator for
 commits@f.a.o should manually add notificati...@github.com to the list
 so
 that the emails can go through.  Who is the moderator of commits@f.a.o?
 
 Thanks,
 Om
 
 
 
 On 4/26/13 11:04 AM, OmPrakash Muppirala bigosma...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Alex Harui aha...@adobe.com
 wrote:
 
 Om,
 
 Thanks for working on this.  Some questions:
 
 1) do you have this actually setup?  If so, can you commit
 something
 to
 your
 whiteboard so I can see what the notification email looks like?
 
 Yes, but with a private account.  I can add you as a member of this
 test
 organization.
 We can 'watch' repos and notifications emails can be configured [1],
 [2]
 More details on Organiations available here [3]
 
 
 2) When the contributor sends the pull request, how does the
 committer
 get
 notified?   Can an email go to the commits list?  Or does the
 committer
 only
 get notified off-list?
 
 We should be able to make the notifications go to any and multiple
 email
 ids [4].  We will have to add the notificati...@github.com email
 id
 to
 our list.
 
 Thanks,
 Om
 
 [1] https://help.github.com/articles/watching-repositories
 [2]
 https://help.github.com/articles/configuring-notification-emails
 [3] https://help.github.com/categories/2/articles
 [4]
 https://help.github.com/articles/notifications#per-organization-email-routing
 
 
 
 -Alex
 
 On 4/26/13 10:27 AM, OmPrakash Muppirala bigosma...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 I have been experimenting with a GitHub based workflow for the
 whiteboard
 repos for our committers.  Here is the workflow I would like to
 propose:
 
 * Apache Flex creates an 'Organization' account GitHub
 * Each Apache Flex committer is encouraged to create an account on
 GitHub
 * The committer then posts their GitHub id on
 dev@flex.apache.organd
 asks
 to be added to the ApacheFlex@GitHub account
 * The Apache Flex PMC will add the committer's GitHub id to the
 ApacheFlex@GitHub account.
 * In the contributing.md file [1] at the root of each committer's
 github
 project, there will be information about Apache's contribution
 guidelines
 including a link to the ICLA [2]
 * Any public contributor is free to fork an ApacheFlex committer's
 github
 project.
 * The contributor makes a few modifications and is ready to send a
 'Pull
 request' to the Apache Flex committer
 * Before the 'Pull Request' can be sent, GitHub will automatically
 point
 the contributor to take a look at the contribution guidelines
 first.
 * Theoretically the contributor reads the contribution guidelines,
 agrees
 to it implicitly and clicks the 'Send Pull Request' button.
 * The Apache Flex Committer now will have a chance to peruse the
 commits
 and decide whether or not to accept the pull request.
 
 There is another alternative I have been working on as well.
 There
 is
 a
 CLAHub [3] plugin for GitHub.  The workflow for this is described
 in
 the
 same link [3].  I have been experimenting with this plugin

Re: {DRAFT] April Board Report

2013-04-08 Thread Greg Reddin
Alex,

I think I've seen comments from board members that they'd rather you not
include the nothing to report sections. If I was producing the report I'd
leave them out. Good report though. Thanks.

Greg


On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 10:03 AM, Alex Harui aha...@adobe.com wrote:

 BTW, I think we report quarterly after this report:

 Apache Flex is an application framework for easily building Flash-based
 applications for mobile devices, the browser and desktop.

 RELEASES
 Apache Flex 4.9.1 was released on 2/28/13.
 Apache Flex Installer 2.0.x was released on 1/9/13.  The next version of
 the
 Installer is being voted on as of this writing.

 ACTIVITY
 Activity in Apache Flex continues to be in  two main areas:  improvements
 to
 the existing Adobe Flash Platform-dependent code base, including the
 releases listed above, and prototyping ways to create a version of Flex
 that
 is independent from the Adobe Flash Platform.  There is another group
 working on Maven-related tools for the existing code base.

 We moved our code base from SVN to Git in mid-March.  It has been a much
 more difficult transition than expected.  Three weeks later, folks are
 still
 confused about how to use Git as it has many options for performing tasks
 that can have significant implications.  Git¹s database model is not suited
 for partial checkouts like SVN, making the management of our whiteboard
 (a
 playground for committers) much more difficult as you have to download the
 entire whiteboard (currently 245MB) first.  There is discussion of managing
 the whiteboard on GitHub, but others feel that it doesn't conform to the
 Apache way.

 The move to Git has slowed contributions from some committers as folks
 aren't sure they have the time to learn to use Git and are afraid of using
 the wrong options.  Hopefully, the net benefit promised by the Git
 supporters will eventually be realized.

 COMMUNITY
 Harbs and Mark Kessler were added as committers.

 Frederic Thomas was added to the PMC.

 PRESS
 Per a request from the Apache Press VP, I was interviewed by a writer from
 InfoWorld in early February and the article was finally published in March.
 The link is:

 http://www.computerworld.com.au/slideshow/455802/pictures_15_high-impact_apa
 che_projects/?image=1

 Nick Kwaitkowski presented on Apache Flex at the Flex Users Group in
 Chicago.  Mike Labriola also presented on his Randori framework which uses
 compiler source from Apache Flex.

 LEGAL
 Nothing to report.

 TLP MIGRATION
 I don't know of any other remaining migration issues.

 INFRASTRUCTURE
  * Infra attempted to resolve INFRA-4380 but ran into problems.  In the
 last
report I thought we had a solution, but it appears that we are back to
trying to devise a new solution.  Tony has been helpful, but his time is
limited.  Every month we spend a few minutes discussing solutions.
JIRA's migration tools are definitely insufficient, and Apache's desire
to have one large centralized JIRA DB makes it difficult or impractical
to experiment with custom solutions.

 BRANDING
 No issues at this time.

 --
 Alex Harui
 Flex SDK Team
 Adobe Systems, Inc.
 http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui




Re: [MENTORS] Voting on code donations

2013-03-25 Thread Greg Reddin
On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 10:14 AM, Alex Harui aha...@adobe.com wrote:

 Hi Former Mentors,

 We’ve had some generous offers of code donations.  I noticed that some
 projects have votes about whether to accept code donations, but we haven’t
 for any Adobe donations to Apache Flex.  Is voting optional?


I think there is some ambiguity with regard to how donations are accepted.
Honestly, I'm not an expert on these matters. I believe this page is the
canonical source for how to handle donations:

http://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/index.html

Unfortunately, I've been covered up with family and work matters and really
haven't been able to follow things as I should around here recently. Sorry
about that. So I'm not familiar with the specific scenarios you are
speaking of. But, generally, I can see the following scenarios:

1) An individual develops code and donates that to Apache.
2) An open-source project decides to donate code to an Apache project.
3) A private company donates code to a project.

Scenario 1 is easy. If the individual is a committer, he/she can simply
commit the code. If the individual is not a committer he/she can submit the
code via a Jira patch or through the IP Clearance process (it's usually
safer to use the IP Clearance process in this case).

Scenario 3 is not too hard. The company has legal ownership of the code so
the onus is on them to decide whether they have provenance to donate it.
This is the most common use of the page I linked to above and it's how the
Flex code came in from Adobe.

Scenario 2 is more complicated. Contributions to the code may have come
from different sources and all owners must agree to the donation. That can
be tricky.

The IP Clearance form linked from the page above contains a line item for
the PMC voting to accept responsibility for the code. We didn't do that
with the Adobe code because the Adobe donation was part of the proposal for
the Incubating project. Note that the page says it's not for new
projects. The vote to accept that code came when the Incubator PMC voted
to accept the project into the Incubator. I think the best approach if we
are talking about scenario 2 or scenario 1 with a non-committer is to hold
a formal vote. Even if scenario 1 comes from a committer, holding a vote
makes everything clear to anyone who may come along wondering later.

Either way, I think a significant code donation from an external party
works best if it goes through the IP Clearance process. It just makes sure
everything is in order as it should be. If it's just a few files that a
committer drew up on his/her own, then there's nothing wrong with
committing the code to the repo and holding a simple vote. But anything
more than that would be better done through the IP Clearance process. And a
formal vote is implied, if not required, by that process.

Hope that helps.
Greg


Re: AW: AW: Donation of Flexmojos

2013-01-25 Thread Greg Reddin
On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 3:35 AM, christofer.d...@c-ware.de 
christofer.d...@c-ware.de wrote:

 So ... does this have any impact on the plans to donate? Is it now harder
 to donate or does it make stuff even easier?


To my knowledge the current licensing strategy of the product has no
bearing on its donation. My assumption is that, by donating it, Velo
asserts that he has intellectual property rights to the software, and he's
passing those rights on to Apache. Apache can then relicense the software
if/when we get ready to release it.

Greg


Re: [VOTE] Allow tracking of download statistics on flex.apache.org

2013-01-21 Thread Greg Reddin
+1

Sent from my mobile device.

On Jan 21, 2013, at 6:49 PM, Om bigosma...@gmail.com wrote:

 Please vote to allow the use of Google Analytics [1] to track download
 statistics of Apache Flex source, binaries and Installer artifacts.
 
 If you have any comments, please reply in this thread: [2]
 Here is the JIRA ticket that describes what needs to be done [3]
 
 Thanks,
 Om
 
 [1] http://www.google.com/analytics/
 [2] http://markmail.org/thread/g3l6t7gt2guxh7qg
 [3] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLEX-33361


Re: [Marketing] - Telling the world that we are a TLP...

2013-01-14 Thread Greg Reddin
Thanks, Scott for helping with this!




On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 10:39 AM, Guthmann, Scott 
sguthm...@on3solutions.com wrote:

 The Press Release is out. Please spread the word. Please tweet, Please
 Blog, Please share on your social networks.

 Please encourage others to join the mailing list and help in all the ways
 they feel comfortable.


 http://globenewswire.com/news-release/2013/01/14/516186/10017952/en/The-Apache-Software-Foundation-Announces-Apache-Flex-tm-as-a-Top-Level-Project.html

 The project improves IMO when there are more volunteers doing work for the
 project and donating code and time. Why I mention this is to provide you
 with a good reason to promote. If there are more volunteers, the support
 improves, the releases come more quickly, there are more wiki editors, and
 documentation editors, more examples are written, more provide reference
 applications.

 We should see many mentions and news articles written over the coming
 days. It is an exciting time!



Re: FlexUnit Location

2013-01-11 Thread Greg Reddin
On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 1:49 PM, Michael A. Labriola 
labri...@digitalprimates.net wrote:

 Do we know who owns it? Is that person willing to donate the code to the
 ASF?

 I own it. I donated it. The grant was filed with Apache last august.


I'm sorry. I should've done the research :-) Ok, then I think we can go
ahead and import it then.

Greg


Re: [OT] Apache Flex twitter mentions up

2013-01-08 Thread Greg Reddin
That's good press :)

Sent from my mobile device.

On Jan 8, 2013, at 6:16 AM, Justin Mclean jus...@classsoftware.com wrote:

 Hi,
 
 Most of it seems to come from this article:
 http://www.internetnews.com/blog/skerner/open-source-flex-gets-top-project-status-at-apache.html
 
 Justin