Podling Report Reminder - April 2017

[johndament]

Dear podling,

This email was sent by an automated system on behalf of the Apache
Incubator PMC. It is an initial reminder to give you plenty of time to
prepare your quarterly board report.

The board meeting is scheduled for Wed, 19 April 2017, 10:30 am PDT.
The report for your podling will form a part of the Incubator PMC
report. The Incubator PMC requires your report to be submitted 2 weeks
before the board meeting, to allow sufficient time for review and
submission (Wed, April 05).

Please submit your report with sufficient time to allow the Incubator
PMC, and subsequently board members to review and digest. Again, the
very latest you should submit your report is 2 weeks prior to the board
meeting.

Thanks,

The Apache Incubator PMC

Submitting your Report

--

Your report should contain the following:

*   Your project name
*   A brief description of your project, which assumes no knowledge of
the project or necessarily of its field
*   A list of the three most important issues to address in the move
towards graduation.
*   Any issues that the Incubator PMC or ASF Board might wish/need to be
aware of
*   How has the community developed since the last report
*   How has the project developed since the last report.
*   How does the podling rate their own maturity.

This should be appended to the Incubator Wiki page at:

https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/April2017

Note: This is manually populated. You may need to wait a little before
this page is created from a template.

Mentors
---

Mentors should review reports for their project(s) and sign them off on
the Incubator wiki page. Signing off reports shows that you are
following the project - projects that are not signed may raise alarms
for the Incubator PMC.

Incubator PMC

Re: Please reivew (then sign) our April poddlin report

[David E Jones]

  
Thank you Daniel, the report looks good. Signed.  

  

-David

  

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On Apr 3 2017, at 3:05 am, Daniel Dekany  wrote:  

> Here it is:  
https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/April2017

>

> I have applied all changes Jacopo has recommended.

>

> I have added a sentence about the age of the project, so that they  
will be in the right context when reading about the community growth  
problem.

>

> Note that they have added a point about "How would you assess the  
podling's maturity?", which I have filled.

>

> \--  
Thanks,  
 Daniel Dekany

Re: Please reivew (then sign) our April poddlin report

[Jacopo Cappellato]

Thank you, signed!

Jacopo

On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 12:05 PM, Daniel Dekany  wrote:

> Here it is:
> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/April2017
>
> I have applied all changes Jacopo has recommended.
>
> I have added a sentence about the age of the project, so that they
> will be in the right context when reading about the community growth
> problem.
>
> Note that they have added a point about "How would you assess the
> podling's maturity?", which I have filled.
>
> --
> Thanks,
>  Daniel Dekany
>
>

Re: Please reivew (then sign) our April poddlin report

[Sergio Fernández]

Signed-off!
Thanks Daniel for putting together the report.
As we stated there, I'd be on favor on trying to move forward with the
graduation ;-)

On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 12:05 PM, Daniel Dekany  wrote:

> Here it is:
> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/April2017
>
> I have applied all changes Jacopo has recommended.
>
> I have added a sentence about the age of the project, so that they
> will be in the right context when reading about the community growth
> problem.
>
> Note that they have added a point about "How would you assess the
> podling's maturity?", which I have filled.
>
> --
> Thanks,
>  Daniel Dekany
>
>


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Re: include with custom parameter

[Taher Alkhateeb]

Oops .. terribly sorry, I actually thought I was on the OFBiz mailing list
:) My bad

On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 11:46 AM, Taher Alkhateeb  wrote:

> Oops, crossed on wire. Thank you for pitching in, I guess the thread is
> answered now :)
>
> On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 11:43 AM, Daniel Dekany  wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> There's no such feature. If a reusable template fragment has
>> parameters (or has nested content), then you meant to use macros (or
>> functions).
>>
>>
>> Sunday, April 2, 2017, 11:47:54 PM, Ingo Mahnke wrote:
>>
>> > Hallo,
>> > maybe someone can help me.
>> > Is it possibile to use custom parameter with the include directive?
>> >
>> >
>> > Template 1
>> > 
>> > 
>> > <#include "template2.ftl" param=v1>
>> > ...
>> > ..
>> >
>> >
>> > template2.ftl
>> > 
>> > ...
>> > <#if (param=="v1")>
>> > ..
>> > ..
>> > <#else>
>> > ..
>> > ..
>> > 
>> >
>> >
>> > Thank you very much!!!
>> >
>> > Ingo
>> >
>> >
>>
>> --
>> Thanks,
>>  Daniel Dekany
>>
>>
>

Re: include with custom parameter

[Taher Alkhateeb]

Oops, crossed on wire. Thank you for pitching in, I guess the thread is
answered now :)

On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 11:43 AM, Daniel Dekany  wrote:

> Hello,
>
> There's no such feature. If a reusable template fragment has
> parameters (or has nested content), then you meant to use macros (or
> functions).
>
>
> Sunday, April 2, 2017, 11:47:54 PM, Ingo Mahnke wrote:
>
> > Hallo,
> > maybe someone can help me.
> > Is it possibile to use custom parameter with the include directive?
> >
> >
> > Template 1
> > 
> > 
> > <#include "template2.ftl" param=v1>
> > ...
> > ..
> >
> >
> > template2.ftl
> > 
> > ...
> > <#if (param=="v1")>
> > ..
> > ..
> > <#else>
> > ..
> > ..
> > 
> >
> >
> > Thank you very much!!!
> >
> > Ingo
> >
> >
>
> --
> Thanks,
>  Daniel Dekany
>
>

Re: Aw: Re: Re: include with custom parameter

[Daniel Dekany]

You are on the right list. (There's no separate user list currently,
due to the low traffic.)


Monday, April 3, 2017, 10:12:53 AM, Ingo Mahnke wrote:

> Hallo Taher,
> why I should subscribe to the OfBiz userlist?
>
>
> On "lists.apache.org" I found only the "d...@freemarker.apache.org" list.
>
> Ingo
>
>
>
>> Gesendet: Montag, 03. April 2017 um 10:04 Uhr
>> Von: "Taher Alkhateeb" 
>> An: dev@freemarker.incubator.apache.org
>> Betreff: Re: Aw: Re: include with custom parameter
>>
>> Oh I meant the OFBiz user mailing list. Anyway FreeMarker is an Apache
>> project now so the mailing list changed. You need to follow the new one
>> provided in lists.apache.org
>> 
>> On Apr 3, 2017 10:34 AM, "Ingo Mahnke"  wrote:
>> 
>> > Hi Thaer,
>> > good idea.
>> >
>> > I tried to subscribe on "http://freemarker.org/mailing-lists.html; and
>> > clickd on "freemarker-u...@lists.sourceforge.net" -> 404
>> >
>> > Any other method to subscribe?
>> >
>> > Ingo
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > > Gesendet: Montag, 03. April 2017 um 09:20 Uhr
>> > > Von: "Taher Alkhateeb" 
>> > > An: dev@freemarker.incubator.apache.org
>> > > Betreff: Re: include with custom parameter
>> > >
>> > > Hi Ingo,
>> > >
>> > > I think this question fits more in the user mailing list.
>> > >
>> > > Regards,
>> > >
>> > > On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 12:47 AM, Ingo Mahnke 
>> > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Hallo,
>> > > > maybe someone can help me.
>> > > > Is it possibile to use custom parameter with the include directive?
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Template 1
>> > > > 
>> > > > 
>> > > > <#include "template2.ftl" param=v1>
>> > > > ...
>> > > > ..
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > template2.ftl
>> > > > 
>> > > > ...
>> > > > <#if (param=="v1")>
>> > > > ..
>> > > > ..
>> > > > <#else>
>> > > > ..
>> > > > ..
>> > > > 
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Thank you very much!!!
>> > > >
>> > > > Ingo
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> >
>> 
>

-- 
Thanks,
 Daniel Dekany

Re: Re: Re: include with custom parameter

[Taher Alkhateeb]

Okay so just to clarify things, we have 3 mailing lists under discussion:
- Apache OFBiz developer mailing list strictly for topics related to the
design and development of the OFBiz Project itself
- Apache OFBiz user mailing list for installation, deployment, custom
development and usage related topics
- Apache FreeMarker mailing list: They only have one list which you
mentioned.

So my recommendation to you was to redirect your question from dev@ofbiz to
user@ofbiz because your question is more relevant over there. I think you
misunderstood my suggestion and thought I meant the FreeMarker ML.

So there are two possible places to ask your question, the user mailing
list for OFBiz, or directly in the FreeMarker mailing list. I think it
makes more sense to ask in the user list of OFBiz because you need
FreeMarker in the context of OFBiz but it's up to you.

So there you, I hope this explains things!

On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 11:12 AM, Ingo Mahnke  wrote:

> Hallo Taher,
> why I should subscribe to the OfBiz userlist?
>
>
> On "lists.apache.org" I found only the "d...@freemarker.apache.org" list.
>
> Ingo
>
>
>
> > Gesendet: Montag, 03. April 2017 um 10:04 Uhr
> > Von: "Taher Alkhateeb" 
> > An: dev@freemarker.incubator.apache.org
> > Betreff: Re: Aw: Re: include with custom parameter
> >
> > Oh I meant the OFBiz user mailing list. Anyway FreeMarker is an Apache
> > project now so the mailing list changed. You need to follow the new one
> > provided in lists.apache.org
> >
> > On Apr 3, 2017 10:34 AM, "Ingo Mahnke"  wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Thaer,
> > > good idea.
> > >
> > > I tried to subscribe on "http://freemarker.org/mailing-lists.html; and
> > > clickd on "freemarker-u...@lists.sourceforge.net" -> 404
> > >
> > > Any other method to subscribe?
> > >
> > > Ingo
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > Gesendet: Montag, 03. April 2017 um 09:20 Uhr
> > > > Von: "Taher Alkhateeb" 
> > > > An: dev@freemarker.incubator.apache.org
> > > > Betreff: Re: include with custom parameter
> > > >
> > > > Hi Ingo,
> > > >
> > > > I think this question fits more in the user mailing list.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 12:47 AM, Ingo Mahnke  >
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hallo,
> > > > > maybe someone can help me.
> > > > > Is it possibile to use custom parameter with the include directive?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Template 1
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > <#include "template2.ftl" param=v1>
> > > > > ...
> > > > > ..
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > template2.ftl
> > > > > 
> > > > > ...
> > > > > <#if (param=="v1")>
> > > > > ..
> > > > > ..
> > > > > <#else>
> > > > > ..
> > > > > ..
> > > > > 
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Thank you very much!!!
> > > > >
> > > > > Ingo
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Re: include with custom parameter

[Daniel Dekany]

Hello,

There's no such feature. If a reusable template fragment has
parameters (or has nested content), then you meant to use macros (or
functions).


Sunday, April 2, 2017, 11:47:54 PM, Ingo Mahnke wrote:

> Hallo,
> maybe someone can help me.
> Is it possibile to use custom parameter with the include directive?
>
>
> Template 1
> 
> 
> <#include "template2.ftl" param=v1>
> ...
> ..
>
>
> template2.ftl
> 
> ...
> <#if (param=="v1")>
> ..
> ..
> <#else>
> ..
> ..
> 
>
>
> Thank you very much!!!
>
> Ingo
>  
>

-- 
Thanks,
 Daniel Dekany

Re: Poddling report draft - needs discussion

[Jacopo Cappellato]

The reports looks great to me but see some minor comments inline:

On Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 12:35 PM, Daniel Dekany  wrote:

> See below. It's more "interesting" than usual (graduation issues...),
> so we should definitely discuss this before I upload it.
>
>
> FreeMarker
>
> FreeMarker is a template engine, i.e. a generic tool to generate text
> output based on templates. FreeMarker is implemented in Java as a
> class library for programmers.
>
> FreeMarker has been incubating since 2015-07-01.
>
> Three most important issues to address in the move towards graduation:
>
>   The project is still struggling to find a way to "convert" active
>   users into committers.


I would change the the above sentence to convey a more positive message:

"The project is constantly exploring new ways to "convert" active users
into committers, since we have a very large user base and a rather small
group of committers."


>  This was actually expected, given the age

  (and topic) of the project.

While the FreeMarker 3 line, which was
>   started quite recently, will be much more appealing for
>   contributors, development on that direction will certainly take a
>   long time. In other respects the project is mature and ready for
>   graduation.
>
> Any issues that the Incubator PMC (IPMC) or ASF Board wish/need to be
> aware of?
>
>   We are eager to graduate, but we don't think that the problem with
>   the number of active contributors will be solved in the near future.
>

As you know, in my opinion FreeMarker is ready to become a TLP; with this
said, personally
I would change the above sentence into:

"We are eager to graduate but we were hoping to increase the number of
active contributors more before the graduation. However, since the
community is slowly growing and we have completed all the Incubation tasks,
we are now more inclined to discuss the graduation now and then proceed as
a top level project."


>   One of the practical problems with being stuck in the Incubator is
>   that many users stick to the last non-incubating release as that has
>   no "-incubating" in the Maven coordinates, missing out on fixes and
>   features done in the recent two years. We brought up the issue with
>   the Maven coordinate on gene...@incubator.apache.org (saying that
>   because our Maven coordinate doesn't contain "apache", "incubating"
>   is meaningless in there), but there was no consensus.
>
> How has the community developed since the last report?
>
>   We have welcomed a new committer, Woonsan Ko.
>
>   A few new people has shown up to help out with our Twitter channel
>   (such as making a new logo for it, and helping to make it more
>   active), and to work modernizing our build scripts.
>
>   The starting of the FreeMarker 3 branch has generated some technical
>   discussion.
>
> How has the project developed since the last report?
>
>   We have created a Project Maturity Model page at
>   https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FREEMARKER/
> Apache+Freemarker+Project+Maturity+Model
>
>   We have started the FreeMarker 3 branch, whose goal is to get rid of
>   backward compatibility burden that holds back the project quite much
>   at this point, and doesn't allow us to fully capitalize on the
>   experiences of the last 15 years. In out current situation it's also
>   very important that then new branch, as it advances, will be
>   technically far more appealing than the legacy branch for
>   contributors. Also, the new branch uses org.apache packages and
>   Maven coordinates (which FreeMarker 2 can't do).
>
>   We have received a bigger contribution from Kenshoo, the source code
>   of an online template evaluator service, which we plan to use on our
>   home page, helping users to try and learn the template language.
>
>   We have released a new micro version (2.3.26), focuses on fixes and
> smaller improvements.
>

I would add:

"This is the third (is it right? please check) release issued during the
incubation"


>
>   We have added a How-To page for committers (http://freemarker.org/
> committer-howto.html),
>   which gives detailed instructions on making releases, handling pull
> requests,
>   updating the project home page, and more.
>
>   We have worked some on our Twitter channel, such as we have a new
>   logo and some posts.
>
> When were the last committers or PMC members elected?
>
>   2017-02-13 Woonsan Ko, committer (non-PMC)
>
> Date of last release:
>
>   2017-03-25
>
> Signed-off-by:
>
>   [ ](freemarker) Jacopo Cappellato
>   [ ](freemarker) Jean-Frederic Clere
>   [ ](freemarker) David E. Jones
>   [ ](freemarker) Ralph Goers
>   [ ](freemarker) Sergio Fernández
>

I like it! Thanks

Jacopo


>
>
> --
> Thanks,
>  Daniel Dekany
>
>

Re: include with custom parameter

[Taher Alkhateeb]

Hi Ingo,

I think this question fits more in the user mailing list.

Regards,

On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 12:47 AM, Ingo Mahnke  wrote:

> Hallo,
> maybe someone can help me.
> Is it possibile to use custom parameter with the include directive?
>
>
> Template 1
> 
> 
> <#include "template2.ftl" param=v1>
> ...
> ..
>
>
> template2.ftl
> 
> ...
> <#if (param=="v1")>
> ..
> ..
> <#else>
> ..
> ..
> 
>
>
> Thank you very much!!!
>
> Ingo
>
>

Re: Podling Report Reminder - April 2017

[Sergio Fernández]

any volunteer for preparing the report?

On Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 3:41 AM,  wrote:

> Dear podling,
>
> This email was sent by an automated system on behalf of the Apache
> Incubator PMC. It is an initial reminder to give you plenty of time to
> prepare your quarterly board report.
>
> The board meeting is scheduled for Wed, 19 April 2017, 10:30 am PDT.
> The report for your podling will form a part of the Incubator PMC
> report. The Incubator PMC requires your report to be submitted 2 weeks
> before the board meeting, to allow sufficient time for review and
> submission (Wed, April 05).
>
> Please submit your report with sufficient time to allow the Incubator
> PMC, and subsequently board members to review and digest. Again, the
> very latest you should submit your report is 2 weeks prior to the board
> meeting.
>
> Thanks,
>
> The Apache Incubator PMC
>
> Submitting your Report
>
> --
>
> Your report should contain the following:
>
> *   Your project name
> *   A brief description of your project, which assumes no knowledge of
> the project or necessarily of its field
> *   A list of the three most important issues to address in the move
> towards graduation.
> *   Any issues that the Incubator PMC or ASF Board might wish/need to be
> aware of
> *   How has the community developed since the last report
> *   How has the project developed since the last report.
> *   How does the podling rate their own maturity.
>
> This should be appended to the Incubator Wiki page at:
>
> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/April2017
>
> Note: This is manually populated. You may need to wait a little before
> this page is created from a template.
>
> Mentors
> ---
>
> Mentors should review reports for their project(s) and sign them off on
> the Incubator wiki page. Signing off reports shows that you are
> following the project - projects that are not signed may raise alarms
> for the Incubator PMC.
>
> Incubator PMC
>



-- 
Sergio Fernández
Partner Technology Manager
Redlink GmbH
m: +43 6602747925
e: sergio.fernan...@redlink.co
w: http://redlink.co