JAX-WS/JBI (Re: [VOTE] sponsor ActiveMQ ServiceMix to become sub-projects of Geronimo)

2005-11-18 Thread Davanum Srinivas
James,
Could we expect any help, in any form, in any of the WS-* projects? i
guess not, from your email it is very clear that the involvement you
think about would be just a drop-in replacement for other things and
not much more. I thought for a few moments that since there is SO much
WS-* focus in JBI, there could be lots of areas for cooperation.
Sigh!! We'll live. If you think of something else, you know where to
reach us.

Team,
FYI, As i mentioned previously
(http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.java.geronimo.devel/18601) for any
future J2EE implementation of Geronimo JAX-WS is needed and we (WS
folks) need help with its implementation.

thanks,
dims

On 11/18/05, James Strachan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 18 Nov 2005, at 17:50, Davanum Srinivas wrote:
  [ ] +0 = I don't mind either way
 
  ServiceMix folks have not shown much interest in any WS projects at
  Apache though I have seen their interest in so many non-Apache WS
  projects including Celtix and JAX-WS  RI (example see
  http://mail-archive.objectweb.org/celtix-dev/2005-08/msg00112.html).

 We're waiting patiently for JAX-WS support in Axis before we can use
 it along with the other 2 JAX-WS implementations. Using SAAJ was a no
 brainer for Axis 1 and didn't require any email traffic since it all
 just worked.

  I
  don't really know why Axis and Synapse are mentioned on the proposal.

 We've already said before on the incubator list that we'd like to add
 JBI support to Synapse and ensure that we can deploy Synapse inside
 ServiceMix as a JBI component. Also when there's a working JAX-WS
 provider in Axis we'll give it a good going over in ServiceMix as
 well. That's just for starters; who knows what other collaboration
 there might be with other WS projects in the future.


  Anyway, Best of luck with incubation.



Re: JAX-WS/JBI (Re: [VOTE] sponsor ActiveMQ ServiceMix to become sub-projects of Geronimo)

2005-11-18 Thread Davanum Srinivas
Sorry, i just get frustrated sometimes with lack of help. There's so
much to do and so little time. I know we have to plan *NOW* for JAXB
2.0 and JAX-WS to be able to get to the next rev of J2EE soon. I hope
some folks here can jump in to WS land and help implement them. When i
saw how closely some folks (not just James) were working with other
non-Apache WS projects it's a bit demoralizing as well to say the
least. Now that i have gotten it off my chest i feel better. Sorry
again for the rash tone.

thanks,
dims

On 11/18/05, Dain Sundstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Wow, it sounds like there is something very personal between you
 two.  You are both great guys and have a reputation for being very
 reasonable. Can you guys maybe get together on the phone and work it
 out?

 I hope we can maintain the friendly tone we have been having lately
 on this mailing list.

 Thanks,

 -dain

 On Nov 18, 2005, at 11:52 AM, Davanum Srinivas wrote:

  James,
  Could we expect any help, in any form, in any of the WS-* projects? i
  guess not, from your email it is very clear that the involvement you
  think about would be just a drop-in replacement for other things and
  not much more. I thought for a few moments that since there is SO much
  WS-* focus in JBI, there could be lots of areas for cooperation.
  Sigh!! We'll live. If you think of something else, you know where to
  reach us.
 
  Team,
  FYI, As i mentioned previously
  (http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.java.geronimo.devel/18601) for any
  future J2EE implementation of Geronimo JAX-WS is needed and we (WS
  folks) need help with its implementation.
 
  thanks,
  dims
 
  On 11/18/05, James Strachan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On 18 Nov 2005, at 17:50, Davanum Srinivas wrote:
  [ ] +0 = I don't mind either way
 
  ServiceMix folks have not shown much interest in any WS projects at
  Apache though I have seen their interest in so many non-Apache WS
  projects including Celtix and JAX-WS  RI (example see
  http://mail-archive.objectweb.org/celtix-dev/2005-08/msg00112.html).
 
  We're waiting patiently for JAX-WS support in Axis before we can use
  it along with the other 2 JAX-WS implementations. Using SAAJ was a no
  brainer for Axis 1 and didn't require any email traffic since it all
  just worked.
 
  I
  don't really know why Axis and Synapse are mentioned on the
  proposal.
 
  We've already said before on the incubator list that we'd like to add
  JBI support to Synapse and ensure that we can deploy Synapse inside
  ServiceMix as a JBI component. Also when there's a working JAX-WS
  provider in Axis we'll give it a good going over in ServiceMix as
  well. That's just for starters; who knows what other collaboration
  there might be with other WS projects in the future.
 
 
  Anyway, Best of luck with incubation.
 




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