Re: [DISCUSS] Release Geronimo Eclipse Plugin 2.0.0 (RC2)
Things don't automatically happen in WTP 1.5.1. We had to register our features with WTP to get it shown up on the list. I hope they are doing this automatically for 2.0.1 RC too, but if not, we probably should raise a WTP bugzilla as soon as possible to get it into 2.0.1. Lin Ted Kirby wrote: Cool! I just tried this. It looks like it interrogates known sites for supported servers. It appears that once we add our plugins/server adapters to our production site, they will be picked up. Interestingly, when clicking this button, I was offered one Apache Geronimo server: 1.2.0! (from http://www.apache.org/dist/geronimo/eclipse/updates/.) So yeah, I think we need to fix this. Ted Kirby 2) I tried to deploy a hello war project and able to deploy fine. But right click the project and do a run as, run on server doesn't bring up the eclipse internal web browser automatically. I wonder if someone else has noticed this? Lin Tim McConnell wrote: Start of discussion thread.
Re: [DISCUSS] Release Geronimo Eclipse Plugin 2.0.0 (RC2)
On 9/14/07, Lin Sun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tim, thanks for your nice instruction. I am able to do scenario 2 fine without any prob! I have noticed 2 things: 1) one other recommended scenario (may be the most recommended scenario) used to be not download anything, but start at define a server then choose the link called download additional server adapters when a user doesn't see the adapter he wants there. From the resulting page, he can just download the geronimo eclipse plugin. I don't know if you or anyone has worked with WTP team to get our geronimo server to be on the list? 2) I tried to deploy a hello war project and able to deploy fine. But right click the project and do a run as, run on server doesn't bring up the eclipse internal web browser automatically. I wonder if someone else has noticed this? Yes! there seems to be a problem. I tried these: a) Created a dynamic web project and then added an index.jsp. Right click on the index.jsp file and select Run As - Run on Server. Everything worked fine including the internal web browser getting opened with the URL of index.jsp! An important thing to note here is that the geronimo-web.xml that got created was using 1.1 version of Geronimo schemas as shown below: web-app xmlns=http://geronimo.apache.org/xml/ns/j2ee/web-1.1; xmlns:nam= http://geronimo.apache.org/xml/ns/naming-1.1; xmlns:sec= http://geronimo.apache.org/xml/ns/security-1.1; xmlns:sys= http://geronimo.apache.org/xml/ns/deployment-1.1; b) I now changed the schema versions in geronimo-web.xml as below: web-app xmlns=http://geronimo.apache.org/xml/ns/j2ee/web-2.0; xmlns:nam= http://geronimo.apache.org/xml/ns/naming-1.2; xmlns:sec= http://geronimo.apache.org/xml/ns/security-2.0; xmlns:sys= http://geronimo.apache.org/xml/ns/deployment-1.2; When I now right click on the same index.jsp and select Run As - Run on Server I see that the internal web browser is *not* getting opened. I see the same behaviour (as described in a) b) above) with both WTP 2.0 WTP 2.0.1RC1. - Shiva Lin Tim McConnell wrote: Start of discussion thread.
Re: [DISCUSS] Release Geronimo Eclipse Plugin 2.0.0 (RC2)
Thanks for catching this Kan Ogawa. I will re-open GERONIMODEVTOOLS-107. - Shiva On 9/14/07, Kan Ogawa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tim, Tim McConnell wrote: Start of discussion thread. The GERONIMODEVTOOLS-107 issue that was already closed is not fully fixed yet in 2.0.0 RC2. ( Now, I don't reopen this issue yet. ) I forward here my reply to question that Ted Kirby posted from WAS-CE forum. For more detail, please see it. http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/forums/dw_thread.jsp?message=13991399cat=51thread=171097treeDisplayType=threadmode1forum=541#13991399 Can you fix it immediately? -- Kan Ogawa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [DISCUSS] Release Geronimo Eclipse Plugin 2.0.0 (RC2)
Hi Kan, we shall try !! Kan Ogawa wrote: Tim, Tim McConnell wrote: Start of discussion thread. The GERONIMODEVTOOLS-107 issue that was already closed is not fully fixed yet in 2.0.0 RC2. ( Now, I don't reopen this issue yet. ) I forward here my reply to question that Ted Kirby posted from WAS-CE forum. For more detail, please see it. http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/forums/dw_thread.jsp?message=13991399cat=51thread=171097treeDisplayType=threadmode1forum=541#13991399 Can you fix it immediately? -- Thanks, Tim McConnell
Re: [DISCUSS] Release Geronimo Eclipse Plugin 2.0.0 (RC2)
I would like to see download links to the following items on the project site at http://geronimo.apache.org/development-tools.html under prerequisites section. 1 -- Europa (also known as Eclipse 3.3), which is platform specific 2 -- Web Tools Platform (WTP) 2.0.1 3 -- Data Tools Platform (DTP) 1.5 4 -- Eclipse Modeling Framework (EMF) 2.3 5 -- Graphical Editing Framework (GEF) 3.3 Thanks Anita On 9/12/07, Tim McConnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Start of discussion thread. -- Thanks, Tim McConnell === Step #1 -- Install prerequisites === The Geronimo Eclipse Plugin 2.0.0 has a number of prerequisites that must be installed prior to the installation of the plugin itself. These are necessary to establish the proper Eclipse installation. They are: 1 -- Europa (also known as Eclipse 3.3), which is platform specific 2 -- Web Tools Platform (WTP) 2.0.1 3 -- Data Tools Platform (DTP) 1.5 4 -- Eclipse Modeling Framework (EMF) 2.3 5 -- Graphical Editing Framework (GEF) 3.3 You can manually download the latest versions of these artifacts but it is somewhat cumbersome. Instead I've created an ant script (that is based on the one used to build the plugin) that you can use that will download and unzip everything for you. You can get it from here: http://people.apache.org/~mcconne/releases/RC2/build.xml After you download it somewhere (preferably in a temp subdirectory) you can just invoke it for your specific platform using one of these three commands: ant win32 ant linux ant macos It will create an /org/EUROPA/eclipse/3.3 subdirectory with all the downloaded artifacts and an /EUROPA/eclipse subdirectory where everything has been unzipped. This is now the Eclipse installation directly you should use to test the Geronimo Eclipse 2.0.0 plugin. If you don't wish to use the ant script it's very important to ensure you have the latest versions of each -- otherwise the plugin will not function correctly. For example, the WTP 2.0.0 release is fairly old and buggy, and our plugin will not function correctly. That is why this ant script downloads and installs the WTP 2.0.1 RC1 artifacts. Now that you have all the prerequisites you can do either of the two scenarios below since each must work and both should emulate how it will be installed and used in the real world. Scenarios #1 and #2 are mutually exclusive though -- do one or the other but not both unless you first delete and recreate your Eclipse installation directory (preferably with the ant script above). === Scenario #1 -- Upzip everything === You can just download the plugin itself and unzip it into the same directory where all the prereqs were installed (e.g., EUROPA/eclipse). If you choose this option you must have an installed version of the Geronimo 2.0.1 server somewhere on your system so that you can define an Geronimo Server configuration. If you've never done this before the steps are fairly straightforward: 1 -- Download the plugin and unzip into your EUROPA/eclipse directory. You can download the plugin from here: http://people.apache.org/~mcconne/releases/RC2/g-eclipse-plugin-2.0.0-deployable-RC2.zip 2 -- Invoke the eclipse executable from your EUROPA/eclipse directory. Select or accept the default workspace. 3 -- Open the Java EE perspective. From within Eclipse: a. Close the Welcome tab b. Select Window -- Open Perspective -- Other -- Java EE You should now be in the Java EE perspective. You can see the open perspective tabs in the upper right-hand corner of your Eclipse workspace. 4 -- Define a new server. From Eclipse select: a. File -- New -- Other -- Server -- Server -- Next -- Apache. At this point you must see the Apache Geronimo v2.0 Server selection or the plugin was not installed/unzipped correctly. b. Select Apache Geronimo v2.0 Server -- Next -- then enter the root directory of your Geronimo server installation -- Next -- Next -- Next -- Finish c. Now in the Java EE perspective you should see the Apache Geronimo v2.0 server (bottom pane, middle tab usually) that you can now start in Eclipse (either right-click on it and select start or select the little green and white arrow on the far right of the server pane). You should then see the console and the familiar server startup messages. d. Right-click on the
Re: [DISCUSS] Release Geronimo Eclipse Plugin 2.0.0 (RC2)
On 9/12/07, Tim McConnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Start of discussion thread. Hi Tim, I'm pretty sure I asked about it (or was about to have asked, but failed), but why is the plugin called g-eclipse-plugin? Wouldn't it be better off if it called geronimo-eclipse-plugin? It doesn't say much when I have g-eclipse-plugin in my eclipse plugin repository and in discussions people tend to use geronimo-eclipse-plugin even though it may seem to be easier to say g-eclipse-plugin and following the plugin's name. It can be confusing. I think I should've noted it sooner and I do appologize to talk about it now right before the plugin is to be released and am leaning towards -1 because of the name (I don't want to be disruptive to the process, so just a friendly reminder I should not do that do the trick just fine ;-)) Jacek -- Jacek Laskowski http://www.JacekLaskowski.pl
Re: [DISCUSS] Release Geronimo Eclipse Plugin 2.0.0 (RC2)
Ted, I see you have updated the version of Web Tools Platform (WTP) to 2.0.1 from 2.0. However on http://download.eclipse.org/webtools/downloads/ I see that 2.0.1 is not yet released (only RC1 is available). Was it a typo? - Shiva On 9/13/07, Ted Kirby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looks good. Thanks Tim. Attached are some minor updates/feedback on your instructions. On 9/12/07, Tim McConnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Start of discussion thread. -- Thanks, Tim McConnell
Re: [DISCUSS] Release Geronimo Eclipse Plugin 2.0.0 (RC2)
On 9/13/07, Anita Kulshreshtha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would like to see download links to the following items on the project site at http://geronimo.apache.org/development-tools.html under prerequisites section. Thanks for capturing this Anita. Also http://geronimo.apache.org/development-tools.htm currently mentions the pre-requisite as WebTools Platform Runtime 1.5.1 driver, version should be updated to 2.0. 1 -- Europa (also known as Eclipse 3.3), which is platform specific 2 -- Web Tools Platform (WTP) 2.0.1 2.0.1 again! Am I missing something?? Shouldn't this be 2.0? 3 -- Data Tools Platform (DTP) 1.5 4 -- Eclipse Modeling Framework (EMF) 2.3 5 -- Graphical Editing Framework (GEF) 3.3 Thanks Anita On 9/12/07, Tim McConnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Start of discussion thread. -- Thanks, Tim McConnell === Step #1 -- Install prerequisites === The Geronimo Eclipse Plugin 2.0.0 has a number of prerequisites that must be installed prior to the installation of the plugin itself. These are necessary to establish the proper Eclipse installation. They are: 1 -- Europa (also known as Eclipse 3.3), which is platform specific 2 -- Web Tools Platform (WTP) 2.0.1 3 -- Data Tools Platform (DTP) 1.5 4 -- Eclipse Modeling Framework (EMF) 2.3 5 -- Graphical Editing Framework (GEF) 3.3 You can manually download the latest versions of these artifacts but it is somewhat cumbersome. Instead I've created an ant script (that is based on the one used to build the plugin) that you can use that will download and unzip everything for you. You can get it from here: http://people.apache.org/~mcconne/releases/RC2/build.xml After you download it somewhere (preferably in a temp subdirectory) you can just invoke it for your specific platform using one of these three commands: ant win32 ant linux ant macos It will create an /org/EUROPA/eclipse/3.3 subdirectory with all the downloaded artifacts and an /EUROPA/eclipse subdirectory where everything has been unzipped. This is now the Eclipse installation directly you should use to test the Geronimo Eclipse 2.0.0 plugin. If you don't wish to use the ant script it's very important to ensure you have the latest versions of each -- otherwise the plugin will not function correctly. For example, the WTP 2.0.0 release is fairly old and buggy, and our plugin will not function correctly. That is why this ant script downloads and installs the WTP 2.0.1 RC1 artifacts. Now that you have all the prerequisites you can do either of the two scenarios below since each must work and both should emulate how it will be installed and used in the real world. Scenarios #1 and #2 are mutually exclusive though -- do one or the other but not both unless you first delete and recreate your Eclipse installation directory (preferably with the ant script above). === Scenario #1 -- Upzip everything === You can just download the plugin itself and unzip it into the same directory where all the prereqs were installed (e.g., EUROPA/eclipse). If you choose this option you must have an installed version of the Geronimo 2.0.1 server somewhere on your system so that you can define an Geronimo Server configuration. If you've never done this before the steps are fairly straightforward: 1 -- Download the plugin and unzip into your EUROPA/eclipse directory. You can download the plugin from here: http://people.apache.org/~mcconne/releases/RC2/g-eclipse-plugin-2.0.0-deployable-RC2.zip 2 -- Invoke the eclipse executable from your EUROPA/eclipse directory. Select or accept the default workspace. 3 -- Open the Java EE perspective. From within Eclipse: a. Close the Welcome tab b. Select Window -- Open Perspective -- Other -- Java EE You should now be in the Java EE perspective. You can see the open perspective tabs in the upper right-hand corner of your Eclipse workspace. 4 -- Define a new server. From Eclipse select: a. File -- New -- Other -- Server -- Server -- Next -- Apache. At this point you must see the Apache Geronimo v2.0 Server selection or the plugin was not installed/unzipped correctly. b. Select Apache Geronimo v2.0 Server -- Next -- then enter the root directory of your Geronimo server installation -- Next -- Next -- Next -- Finish c. Now in the Java EE perspective you should see the Apache Geronimo v2.0
Re: [DISCUSS] Release Geronimo Eclipse Plugin 2.0.0 (RC2)
On 9/13/07, Jacek Laskowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/12/07, Tim McConnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Start of discussion thread. Hi Tim, I'm pretty sure I asked about it (or was about to have asked, but failed), but why is the plugin called g-eclipse-plugin? Wouldn't it be better off if it called geronimo-eclipse-plugin? It doesn't say much when I have g-eclipse-plugin in my eclipse plugin repository and in discussions people tend to use geronimo-eclipse-plugin even though it may seem to be easier to say g-eclipse-plugin and following the plugin's name. It can be confusing. I think I should've noted it sooner and I do appologize to talk about it now right before the plugin is to be released and am leaning towards -1 because of the name (I don't want to be disruptive to the process, so just a friendly reminder I should not do that do the trick just fine ;-)) Agree with Jacek about changing the name from g-eclipse-plugin-* to geronimo-eclipse-plugin-*. There will then be consistency in what we have and what we speak. Jacek, Will it be fine if we do this in the next release 2.1? We probably can have a JIRA opened for this so that we don't loose track of this. Getting 2.0 out will allow us to focus back on trunk, in which we want to propose some major changes to Geronimo deployment plan editors. - Shiva Jacek -- Jacek Laskowski http://www.JacekLaskowski.pl
Re: [DISCUSS] Release Geronimo Eclipse Plugin 2.0.0 (RC2)
You'd have to ask Sachin why he named the assemblies that way. -Donald Jacek Laskowski wrote: On 9/12/07, Tim McConnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Start of discussion thread. Hi Tim, I'm pretty sure I asked about it (or was about to have asked, but failed), but why is the plugin called g-eclipse-plugin? Wouldn't it be better off if it called geronimo-eclipse-plugin? It doesn't say much when I have g-eclipse-plugin in my eclipse plugin repository and in discussions people tend to use geronimo-eclipse-plugin even though it may seem to be easier to say g-eclipse-plugin and following the plugin's name. It can be confusing. I think I should've noted it sooner and I do appologize to talk about it now right before the plugin is to be released and am leaning towards -1 because of the name (I don't want to be disruptive to the process, so just a friendly reminder I should not do that do the trick just fine ;-)) Jacek smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: [DISCUSS] Release Geronimo Eclipse Plugin 2.0.0 (RC2)
Need to be more specific on the Eclipse package that users need, now that there are 5 different distros - 1 -- Europa (also known as Eclipse 3.3), which is platform specific 1 -- Eclipse IDE for Java EE Developers (Europa v3.3 or later) Also, by prereqing WTP 2.0.1, I think it requires newer levels of the all the packages, based on the current prereq levels listed for WTP 2.0.1 RC1 at the top of the following download page - http://download.eclipse.org/webtools/downloads/drops/R2.0/M-2.0.1RC1-20070907070540/ Which means its targeted to Eclipse 3.3.1 which is supposed to ship by end of Sept. -Donald Ted Kirby wrote: Looks good. Thanks Tim. Attached are some minor updates/feedback on your instructions. On 9/12/07, Tim McConnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Start of discussion thread. -- Thanks, Tim McConnell smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: [DISCUSS] Release Geronimo Eclipse Plugin 2.0.0 (RC2)
Tim and I have been working hard on getting the Download and Install function to work to download a server for the eclipse update site and install it your machine. The stablest level on which we have found this to work is WTP2.0.1RC1. Other minor issues/problems occur at lower WTP levels. Running and debugging the plugin in eclipse has been tedious and buggy. I would vote -99 for releasing the plugin on any level less than WTP2.0.1RC1. I have been frustrated to not be able to work on other things because of these issues. You may well judge that I am unduly focused on these issues. I am glad that you and others have success with the plugin and various enhancements. I am certainly disappointed in WTP2.0.x at this point. What level of WTP are you using? The WTP 2.0.1 release schedule is here: http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_Release_2.0.1_Schedule, and calls for a 9/28 GA. I am good with an Apache Geronimo Eclipse plugin GA running with WTP2.0.1RC1. Assuming WTP2.0.1 GA works as well as this one, when it comes out, I think we should upgrade our levels and Tim's build.xml to move to that level. It unfortunately seems prudent for us to dig into the eclipse WTP community to make sure the parts we use work. Ted Kirby On 9/13/07, Shiva Kumar H R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ted, I see you have updated the version of Web Tools Platform (WTP) to 2.0.1 from 2.0. However on http://download.eclipse.org/webtools/downloads/ I see that 2.0.1 is not yet released (only RC1 is available). Was it a typo? - Shiva On 9/13/07, Ted Kirby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looks good. Thanks Tim. Attached are some minor updates/feedback on your instructions. On 9/12/07, Tim McConnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Start of discussion thread. -- Thanks, Tim McConnell
Re: [DISCUSS] Release Geronimo Eclipse Plugin 2.0.0 (RC2)
FWIW, I followed the Use Staging Site instructions and used update manager's staging_site to download tomcat version on windows. The server and the admin console started fine. I got download urls for various parts from ant build file at http://people.apache.org/~mcconne/releases/RC2/build.xml Thanks Anita --- Ted Kirby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tim and I have been working hard on getting the Download and Install function to work to download a server for the eclipse update site and install it your machine. The stablest level on which we have found this to work is WTP2.0.1RC1. Other minor issues/problems occur at lower WTP levels. Running and debugging the plugin in eclipse has been tedious and buggy. I would vote -99 for releasing the plugin on any level less than WTP2.0.1RC1. I have been frustrated to not be able to work on other things because of these issues. You may well judge that I am unduly focused on these issues. I am glad that you and others have success with the plugin and various enhancements. I am certainly disappointed in WTP2.0.x at this point. What level of WTP are you using? The WTP 2.0.1 release schedule is here: http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_Release_2.0.1_Schedule, and calls for a 9/28 GA. I am good with an Apache Geronimo Eclipse plugin GA running with WTP2.0.1RC1. Assuming WTP2.0.1 GA works as well as this one, when it comes out, I think we should upgrade our levels and Tim's build.xml to move to that level. It unfortunately seems prudent for us to dig into the eclipse WTP community to make sure the parts we use work. Ted Kirby On 9/13/07, Shiva Kumar H R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ted, I see you have updated the version of Web Tools Platform (WTP) to 2.0.1 from 2.0. However on http://download.eclipse.org/webtools/downloads/ I see that 2.0.1 is not yet released (only RC1 is available). Was it a typo? - Shiva On 9/13/07, Ted Kirby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looks good. Thanks Tim. Attached are some minor updates/feedback on your instructions. On 9/12/07, Tim McConnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Start of discussion thread. -- Thanks, Tim McConnell Catch up on fall's hot new shows on Yahoo! TV. Watch previews, get listings, and more! http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/3658
Re: [DISCUSS] Release Geronimo Eclipse Plugin 2.0.0 (RC2)
Understand your frustrations, but the Eclipse levels in build.xml have nothing to do with the user runtime levels and don't need to be updated unless we want to use newer features/APIs in future Eclipse 3.3.x or WTP 2.0.x releases I think we all have learned now not to depend on the major train releases of Eclipse, but to wait for the first maintenance release for any expected plugin releases We also need to continue supporting the prior Eclipse level in future plugin updates, for any of our ISV and production users, who can't always upgrade to the latest Eclipse levels due to other project requirements or tool dependencies -Donald Ted Kirby wrote: Tim and I have been working hard on getting the Download and Install function to work to download a server for the eclipse update site and install it your machine. The stablest level on which we have found this to work is WTP2.0.1RC1. Other minor issues/problems occur at lower WTP levels. Running and debugging the plugin in eclipse has been tedious and buggy. I would vote -99 for releasing the plugin on any level less than WTP2.0.1RC1. I have been frustrated to not be able to work on other things because of these issues. You may well judge that I am unduly focused on these issues. I am glad that you and others have success with the plugin and various enhancements. I am certainly disappointed in WTP2.0.x at this point. What level of WTP are you using? The WTP 2.0.1 release schedule is here: http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_Release_2.0.1_Schedule, and calls for a 9/28 GA. I am good with an Apache Geronimo Eclipse plugin GA running with WTP2.0.1RC1. Assuming WTP2.0.1 GA works as well as this one, when it comes out, I think we should upgrade our levels and Tim's build.xml to move to that level. It unfortunately seems prudent for us to dig into the eclipse WTP community to make sure the parts we use work. Ted Kirby On 9/13/07, Shiva Kumar H R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ted, I see you have updated the version of Web Tools Platform (WTP) to 2.0.1 from 2.0. However on http://download.eclipse.org/webtools/downloads/ I see that 2.0.1 is not yet released (only RC1 is available). Was it a typo? - Shiva On 9/13/07, Ted Kirby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looks good. Thanks Tim. Attached are some minor updates/feedback on your instructions. On 9/12/07, Tim McConnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Start of discussion thread. -- Thanks, Tim McConnell smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: [DISCUSS] Release Geronimo Eclipse Plugin 2.0.0 (RC2)
On 9/13/07, Donald Woods [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Need to be more specific on the Eclipse package that users need, now that there are 5 different distros - 1 -- Europa (also known as Eclipse 3.3), which is platform specific 1 -- Eclipse IDE for Java EE Developers (Europa v3.3 or later) Oh! there seems to be a confusion here. Please see http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/moreinfo/compare.php 1) So Eclipse IDE for Java EE Developers (125MB) is actually Eclipse Platform + WTP it's pre-reqs. Ideally this should have been 'the only' pre-requisite for Geronimo Eclipse Plug-in (GEP). However we are currently running into a problem using this (Geronimo v1.0 v1.2 servers are not appearing in the list of available servers). Hence we have deferred using this until next GEP release i.e. 2.1. Please see GERONIMODEVTOOLS-180. I guess not having another JIRA opened for this problem, is the source of confusion. I will open a JIRA soon after this. 2) Eclipse Classic (140MB) is the one to be listed as the correct pre-requisite here for GEP 2.0. - Shiva Also, by prereqing WTP 2.0.1, I think it requires newer levels of the all the packages, based on the current prereq levels listed for WTP 2.0.1 RC1 at the top of the following download page - http://download.eclipse.org/webtools/downloads/drops/R2.0/M-2.0.1RC1-20070907070540/ Which means its targeted to Eclipse 3.3.1 which is supposed to ship by end of Sept. -Donald Ted Kirby wrote: Looks good. Thanks Tim. Attached are some minor updates/feedback on your instructions. On 9/12/07, Tim McConnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Start of discussion thread. -- Thanks, Tim McConnell
Re: [DISCUSS] Release Geronimo Eclipse Plugin 2.0.0 (RC2)
On 9/13/07, Shiva Kumar H R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/13/07, Donald Woods [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Need to be more specific on the Eclipse package that users need, now that there are 5 different distros - 1 -- Europa (also known as Eclipse 3.3), which is platform specific 1 -- Eclipse IDE for Java EE Developers (Europa v3.3 or later) Oh! there seems to be a confusion here. Please see http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/moreinfo/compare.php 1) So Eclipse IDE for Java EE Developers (125MB) is actually Eclipse Platform + WTP it's pre-reqs. Ideally this should have been 'the only' pre-requisite for Geronimo Eclipse Plug-in (GEP). However we are currently running into a problem using this (Geronimo v1.0 v1.2 servers are not appearing in the list of available servers). Hence we have deferred using this until next GEP release i.e. 2.1. Please see GERONIMODEVTOOLS-180. I guess not having another JIRA opened for this problem, is the source of confusion. I will open a JIRA soon after this. GERONIMODEVTOOLS-204 opened for this. 2) Eclipse Classic (140MB) is the one to be listed as the correct pre-requisite here for GEP 2.0. - Shiva Also, by prereqing WTP 2.0.1, I think it requires newer levels of the all the packages, based on the current prereq levels listed for WTP 2.0.1 RC1 at the top of the following download page - http://download.eclipse.org/webtools/downloads/drops/R2.0/M-2.0.1RC1-20070907070540/ Which means its targeted to Eclipse 3.3.1 which is supposed to ship by end of Sept. -Donald Ted Kirby wrote: Looks good. Thanks Tim. Attached are some minor updates/feedback on your instructions. On 9/12/07, Tim McConnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Start of discussion thread. -- Thanks, Tim McConnell
Re: [DISCUSS] Release Geronimo Eclipse Plugin 2.0.0 (RC2)
Thanks for the clarification. Guess if users only wanted Geronimo 2.0 server support, then they could use the intended for Java EE Developers package, as that has been working for me, but I've only been testing against a 2.0.1 server -Donald Shiva Kumar H R wrote: On 9/13/07, *Donald Woods* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Need to be more specific on the Eclipse package that users need, now that there are 5 different distros - 1 -- Europa (also known as Eclipse 3.3), which is platform specific 1 -- Eclipse IDE for Java EE Developers (Europa v3.3 or later) Oh! there seems to be a confusion here. Please see http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/moreinfo/compare.php 1) So Eclipse IDE for Java EE Developers (125MB) is actually Eclipse Platform + WTP it's pre-reqs. Ideally this should have been 'the only' pre-requisite for Geronimo Eclipse Plug-in (GEP). However we are currently running into a problem using this (Geronimo v1.0 v1.2 servers are not appearing in the list of available servers). Hence we have deferred using this until next GEP release i.e. 2.1. Please see GERONIMODEVTOOLS-180. I guess not having another JIRA opened for this problem, is the source of confusion. I will open a JIRA soon after this. 2) Eclipse Classic (140MB) is the one to be listed as the correct pre-requisite here for GEP 2.0. - Shiva Also, by prereqing WTP 2.0.1, I think it requires newer levels of the all the packages, based on the current prereq levels listed for WTP 2.0.1 RC1 at the top of the following download page - http://download.eclipse.org/webtools/downloads/drops/R2.0/M-2.0.1RC1-20070907070540/ Which means its targeted to Eclipse 3.3.1 which is supposed to ship by end of Sept. -Donald Ted Kirby wrote: Looks good. Thanks Tim. Attached are some minor updates/feedback on your instructions. On 9/12/07, Tim McConnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Start of discussion thread. -- Thanks, Tim McConnell smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: [DISCUSS] Release Geronimo Eclipse Plugin 2.0.0 (RC2)
Or use the WTP 2.0.1 All-in-one bundle when its released, as it should include the Eclipse SDK Classic bundle as the WTP 2.0 all-in-one bundle included. -Donald Donald Woods wrote: Thanks for the clarification. Guess if users only wanted Geronimo 2.0 server support, then they could use the intended for Java EE Developers package, as that has been working for me, but I've only been testing against a 2.0.1 server -Donald Shiva Kumar H R wrote: On 9/13/07, *Donald Woods* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Need to be more specific on the Eclipse package that users need, now that there are 5 different distros - 1 -- Europa (also known as Eclipse 3.3), which is platform specific 1 -- Eclipse IDE for Java EE Developers (Europa v3.3 or later) Oh! there seems to be a confusion here. Please see http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/moreinfo/compare.php 1) So Eclipse IDE for Java EE Developers (125MB) is actually Eclipse Platform + WTP it's pre-reqs. Ideally this should have been 'the only' pre-requisite for Geronimo Eclipse Plug-in (GEP). However we are currently running into a problem using this (Geronimo v1.0 v1.2 servers are not appearing in the list of available servers). Hence we have deferred using this until next GEP release i.e. 2.1. Please see GERONIMODEVTOOLS-180. I guess not having another JIRA opened for this problem, is the source of confusion. I will open a JIRA soon after this. 2) Eclipse Classic (140MB) is the one to be listed as the correct pre-requisite here for GEP 2.0. - Shiva Also, by prereqing WTP 2.0.1, I think it requires newer levels of the all the packages, based on the current prereq levels listed for WTP 2.0.1 RC1 at the top of the following download page - http://download.eclipse.org/webtools/downloads/drops/R2.0/M-2.0.1RC1-20070907070540/ Which means its targeted to Eclipse 3.3.1 which is supposed to ship by end of Sept. -Donald Ted Kirby wrote: Looks good. Thanks Tim. Attached are some minor updates/feedback on your instructions. On 9/12/07, Tim McConnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Start of discussion thread. -- Thanks, Tim McConnell smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: [DISCUSS] Release Geronimo Eclipse Plugin 2.0.0 (RC2)
Great, thanks Ted Ted Kirby wrote: Looks good. Thanks Tim. Attached are some minor updates/feedback on your instructions. On 9/12/07, Tim McConnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Start of discussion thread. -- Thanks, Tim McConnell -- Thanks, Tim McConnell
Re: [DISCUSS] Release Geronimo Eclipse Plugin 2.0.0 (RC2)
Oh! wasn't aware of those problems. Hadn't tried Download and Install, rather was directly unzipping the *deployable.zip. And everything worked fine even with WTP 2.0 (wtp-all-in-one-sdk-win32). Good that we have discovered Download and Install doesn't work with WTP 2.0 and only works with WTP 2.0.1RC1. Thanks Donald for hinting that we don't need to update build.xml and rebuild GEP. I will re-test http://people.apache.org/~mcconne/releases/RC2/g-eclipse-plugin-2.0.0-deployable-RC2.zipusing WTP 2.0.1RC1 and post my results. - Shiva On 9/13/07, Donald Woods [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Understand your frustrations, but the Eclipse levels in build.xml have nothing to do with the user runtime levels and don't need to be updated unless we want to use newer features/APIs in future Eclipse 3.3.x or WTP 2.0.xreleases I think we all have learned now not to depend on the major train releases of Eclipse, but to wait for the first maintenance release for any expected plugin releases We also need to continue supporting the prior Eclipse level in future plugin updates, for any of our ISV and production users, who can't always upgrade to the latest Eclipse levels due to other project requirements or tool dependencies -Donald Ted Kirby wrote: Tim and I have been working hard on getting the Download and Install function to work to download a server for the eclipse update site and install it your machine. The stablest level on which we have found this to work is WTP2.0.1RC1. Other minor issues/problems occur at lower WTP levels. Running and debugging the plugin in eclipse has been tedious and buggy. I would vote -99 for releasing the plugin on any level less than WTP2.0.1RC1. I have been frustrated to not be able to work on other things because of these issues. You may well judge that I am unduly focused on these issues. I am glad that you and others have success with the plugin and various enhancements. I am certainly disappointed in WTP2.0.x at this point. What level of WTP are you using? The WTP 2.0.1 release schedule is here: http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_Release_2.0.1_Schedule, and calls for a 9/28 GA. I am good with an Apache Geronimo Eclipse plugin GA running with WTP2.0.1RC1. Assuming WTP2.0.1 GA works as well as this one, when it comes out, I think we should upgrade our levels and Tim's build.xml to move to that level. It unfortunately seems prudent for us to dig into the eclipse WTP community to make sure the parts we use work. Ted Kirby On 9/13/07, Shiva Kumar H R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ted, I see you have updated the version of Web Tools Platform (WTP) to 2.0.1from 2.0. However on http://download.eclipse.org/webtools/downloads/ I see that 2.0.1 is not yet released (only RC1 is available). Was it a typo? - Shiva On 9/13/07, Ted Kirby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looks good. Thanks Tim. Attached are some minor updates/feedback on your instructions. On 9/12/07, Tim McConnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Start of discussion thread. -- Thanks, Tim McConnell
Re: [DISCUSS] Release Geronimo Eclipse Plugin 2.0.0 (RC2)
Thanks for the reminder Anita, The project site and the accompanying release notes will be updated as soon as the release candidate is approved. I've also updated the Release Process steps (URL below) to include this step just so we don't forget. Thanks http://cwiki.apache.org/GMOxPMGT/release-eclipse-plugin-process.html) Anita Kulshreshtha wrote: I would like to see download links to the following items on the project site at http://geronimo.apache.org/development-tools.html under prerequisites section. 1 -- Europa (also known as Eclipse 3.3), which is platform specific 2 -- Web Tools Platform (WTP) 2.0.1 3 -- Data Tools Platform (DTP) 1.5 4 -- Eclipse Modeling Framework (EMF) 2.3 5 -- Graphical Editing Framework (GEF) 3.3 Thanks Anita On 9/12/07, Tim McConnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Start of discussion thread. -- Thanks, Tim McConnell === Step #1 -- Install prerequisites === The Geronimo Eclipse Plugin 2.0.0 has a number of prerequisites that must be installed prior to the installation of the plugin itself. These are necessary to establish the proper Eclipse installation. They are: 1 -- Europa (also known as Eclipse 3.3), which is platform specific 2 -- Web Tools Platform (WTP) 2.0.1 3 -- Data Tools Platform (DTP) 1.5 4 -- Eclipse Modeling Framework (EMF) 2.3 5 -- Graphical Editing Framework (GEF) 3.3 You can manually download the latest versions of these artifacts but it is somewhat cumbersome. Instead I've created an ant script (that is based on the one used to build the plugin) that you can use that will download and unzip everything for you. You can get it from here: http://people.apache.org/~mcconne/releases/RC2/build.xml After you download it somewhere (preferably in a temp subdirectory) you can just invoke it for your specific platform using one of these three commands: ant win32 ant linux ant macos It will create an /org/EUROPA/eclipse/3.3 subdirectory with all the downloaded artifacts and an /EUROPA/eclipse subdirectory where everything has been unzipped. This is now the Eclipse installation directly you should use to test the Geronimo Eclipse 2.0.0 plugin. If you don't wish to use the ant script it's very important to ensure you have the latest versions of each -- otherwise the plugin will not function correctly. For example, the WTP 2.0.0 release is fairly old and buggy, and our plugin will not function correctly. That is why this ant script downloads and installs the WTP 2.0.1 RC1 artifacts. Now that you have all the prerequisites you can do either of the two scenarios below since each must work and both should emulate how it will be installed and used in the real world. Scenarios #1 and #2 are mutually exclusive though -- do one or the other but not both unless you first delete and recreate your Eclipse installation directory (preferably with the ant script above). === Scenario #1 -- Upzip everything === You can just download the plugin itself and unzip it into the same directory where all the prereqs were installed (e.g., EUROPA/eclipse). If you choose this option you must have an installed version of the Geronimo 2.0.1 server somewhere on your system so that you can define an Geronimo Server configuration. If you've never done this before the steps are fairly straightforward: 1 -- Download the plugin and unzip into your EUROPA/eclipse directory. You can download the plugin from here: http://people.apache.org/~mcconne/releases/RC2/g-eclipse-plugin-2.0.0-deployable-RC2.zip 2 -- Invoke the eclipse executable from your EUROPA/eclipse directory. Select or accept the default workspace. 3 -- Open the Java EE perspective. From within Eclipse: a. Close the Welcome tab b. Select Window -- Open Perspective -- Other -- Java EE You should now be in the Java EE perspective. You can see the open perspective tabs in the upper right-hand corner of your Eclipse workspace. 4 -- Define a new server. From Eclipse select: a. File -- New -- Other -- Server -- Server -- Next -- Apache. At this point you must see the Apache Geronimo v2.0 Server selection or the plugin was not installed/unzipped correctly. b. Select Apache Geronimo v2.0 Server -- Next -- then enter the root directory of your Geronimo server installation -- Next -- Next -- Next -- Finish c. Now in the Java EE perspective you should see the Apache Geronimo v2.0 server (bottom pane, middle tab usually) that you can now start in Eclipse
Re: [DISCUSS] Release Geronimo Eclipse Plugin 2.0.0 (RC2)
Hi Jacek, yes that's a very good idea. To be honest, I'm not sure why Sachin called it g-eclipse-plugin. But as Shiva has suggested I've opened a JIRA to include it in the next release https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMODEVTOOLS-205 Jacek Laskowski wrote: On 9/12/07, Tim McConnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Start of discussion thread. Hi Tim, I'm pretty sure I asked about it (or was about to have asked, but failed), but why is the plugin called g-eclipse-plugin? Wouldn't it be better off if it called geronimo-eclipse-plugin? It doesn't say much when I have g-eclipse-plugin in my eclipse plugin repository and in discussions people tend to use geronimo-eclipse-plugin even though it may seem to be easier to say g-eclipse-plugin and following the plugin's name. It can be confusing. I think I should've noted it sooner and I do appologize to talk about it now right before the plugin is to be released and am leaning towards -1 because of the name (I don't want to be disruptive to the process, so just a friendly reminder I should not do that do the trick just fine ;-)) Jacek -- Thanks, Tim McConnell
Re: [DISCUSS] Release Geronimo Eclipse Plugin 2.0.0 (RC2)
Huge sigh of relief !! Thanks Anita Anita Kulshreshtha wrote: FWIW, I followed the Use Staging Site instructions and used update manager's staging_site to download tomcat version on windows. The server and the admin console started fine. I got download urls for various parts from ant build file at http://people.apache.org/~mcconne/releases/RC2/build.xml Thanks Anita --- Ted Kirby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tim and I have been working hard on getting the Download and Install function to work to download a server for the eclipse update site and install it your machine. The stablest level on which we have found this to work is WTP2.0.1RC1. Other minor issues/problems occur at lower WTP levels. Running and debugging the plugin in eclipse has been tedious and buggy. I would vote -99 for releasing the plugin on any level less than WTP2.0.1RC1. I have been frustrated to not be able to work on other things because of these issues. You may well judge that I am unduly focused on these issues. I am glad that you and others have success with the plugin and various enhancements. I am certainly disappointed in WTP2.0.x at this point. What level of WTP are you using? The WTP 2.0.1 release schedule is here: http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_Release_2.0.1_Schedule, and calls for a 9/28 GA. I am good with an Apache Geronimo Eclipse plugin GA running with WTP2.0.1RC1. Assuming WTP2.0.1 GA works as well as this one, when it comes out, I think we should upgrade our levels and Tim's build.xml to move to that level. It unfortunately seems prudent for us to dig into the eclipse WTP community to make sure the parts we use work. Ted Kirby On 9/13/07, Shiva Kumar H R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ted, I see you have updated the version of Web Tools Platform (WTP) to 2.0.1 from 2.0. However on http://download.eclipse.org/webtools/downloads/ I see that 2.0.1 is not yet released (only RC1 is available). Was it a typo? - Shiva On 9/13/07, Ted Kirby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looks good. Thanks Tim. Attached are some minor updates/feedback on your instructions. On 9/12/07, Tim McConnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Start of discussion thread. -- Thanks, Tim McConnell Catch up on fall's hot new shows on Yahoo! TV. Watch previews, get listings, and more! http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/3658 -- Thanks, Tim McConnell
Re: [DISCUSS] Release Geronimo Eclipse Plugin 2.0.0 (RC2)
As to my frustrations, I was asked! :-) Yes, that is a good point you raise about the distinction between build level and user run level. I view it, however, as a beneficial short-term tactic, until WTP.2.0.1 GAs, but not a beneficial long term strategy or approach. I think Tim provided great service and innovation by giving us build.xml to download all the required eclipse bits. I think it makes great sense to allow the user to use it to download eclipse at the same level as the build, so users could easily get the supported level. This is also well documented in the instructions at http://people.apache.org/~mcconne/releases/RC2/Geronimo_Eclipse_Plugin_2.0.0_Instructions-RC2.txt. All things considered, I think it's a good thing to build and have users run with the same level of eclipse. Ted Kirby On 9/13/07, Donald Woods [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Understand your frustrations, but the Eclipse levels in build.xml have nothing to do with the user runtime levels and don't need to be updated unless we want to use newer features/APIs in future Eclipse 3.3.x or WTP 2.0.x releases I think we all have learned now not to depend on the major train releases of Eclipse, but to wait for the first maintenance release for any expected plugin releases We also need to continue supporting the prior Eclipse level in future plugin updates, for any of our ISV and production users, who can't always upgrade to the latest Eclipse levels due to other project requirements or tool dependencies -Donald Ted Kirby wrote: Tim and I have been working hard on getting the Download and Install function to work to download a server for the eclipse update site and install it your machine. The stablest level on which we have found this to work is WTP2.0.1RC1. Other minor issues/problems occur at lower WTP levels. Running and debugging the plugin in eclipse has been tedious and buggy. I would vote -99 for releasing the plugin on any level less than WTP2.0.1RC1. I have been frustrated to not be able to work on other things because of these issues. You may well judge that I am unduly focused on these issues. I am glad that you and others have success with the plugin and various enhancements. I am certainly disappointed in WTP2.0.x at this point. What level of WTP are you using? The WTP 2.0.1 release schedule is here: http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_Release_2.0.1_Schedule, and calls for a 9/28 GA. I am good with an Apache Geronimo Eclipse plugin GA running with WTP2.0.1RC1. Assuming WTP2.0.1 GA works as well as this one, when it comes out, I think we should upgrade our levels and Tim's build.xml to move to that level. It unfortunately seems prudent for us to dig into the eclipse WTP community to make sure the parts we use work. Ted Kirby On 9/13/07, Shiva Kumar H R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ted, I see you have updated the version of Web Tools Platform (WTP) to 2.0.1 from 2.0. However on http://download.eclipse.org/webtools/downloads/ I see that 2.0.1 is not yet released (only RC1 is available). Was it a typo? - Shiva On 9/13/07, Ted Kirby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looks good. Thanks Tim. Attached are some minor updates/feedback on your instructions. On 9/12/07, Tim McConnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Start of discussion thread. -- Thanks, Tim McConnell
Re: [DISCUSS] Release Geronimo Eclipse Plugin 2.0.0 (RC2)
Tim, thanks for your nice instruction. I am able to do scenario 2 fine without any prob! I have noticed 2 things: 1) one other recommended scenario (may be the most recommended scenario) used to be not download anything, but start at define a server then choose the link called download additional server adapters when a user doesn't see the adapter he wants there. From the resulting page, he can just download the geronimo eclipse plugin. I don't know if you or anyone has worked with WTP team to get our geronimo server to be on the list? 2) I tried to deploy a hello war project and able to deploy fine. But right click the project and do a run as, run on server doesn't bring up the eclipse internal web browser automatically. I wonder if someone else has noticed this? Lin Tim McConnell wrote: Start of discussion thread.
Re: [DISCUSS] Release Geronimo Eclipse Plugin 2.0.0 (RC2)
On 9/13/07, Lin Sun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tim, thanks for your nice instruction. I am able to do scenario 2 fine without any prob! I have noticed 2 things: 1) one other recommended scenario (may be the most recommended scenario) used to be not download anything, but start at define a server then choose the link called download additional server adapters when a user doesn't see the adapter he wants there. From the resulting page, he can just download the geronimo eclipse plugin. I don't know if you or anyone has worked with WTP team to get our geronimo server to be on the list? Cool! I just tried this. It looks like it interrogates known sites for supported servers. It appears that once we add our plugins/server adapters to our production site, they will be picked up. Interestingly, when clicking this button, I was offered one Apache Geronimo server: 1.2.0! (from http://www.apache.org/dist/geronimo/eclipse/updates/.) So yeah, I think we need to fix this. Ted Kirby 2) I tried to deploy a hello war project and able to deploy fine. But right click the project and do a run as, run on server doesn't bring up the eclipse internal web browser automatically. I wonder if someone else has noticed this? Lin Tim McConnell wrote: Start of discussion thread.
Re: [DISCUSS] Release Geronimo Eclipse Plugin 2.0.0 (RC2)
Hi Lin, 1) yes that is actually the last step in our Release Eclipse Plugin Process (i.e., to ensure that the server and/or plugin can be downloaded from Eclipse without having to add a new Remote Site from the Eclipse Help panels). Unfortunately, this is not a scenario that can be emulated with our Staging site so I didn't bother to list it. 2) I haven't noticed this but I don't know that I've actually deployed and run a Hello World project. I'll investigate though. Thanks Lin Sun wrote: Tim, thanks for your nice instruction. I am able to do scenario 2 fine without any prob! I have noticed 2 things: 1) one other recommended scenario (may be the most recommended scenario) used to be not download anything, but start at define a server then choose the link called download additional server adapters when a user doesn't see the adapter he wants there. From the resulting page, he can just download the geronimo eclipse plugin. I don't know if you or anyone has worked with WTP team to get our geronimo server to be on the list? 2) I tried to deploy a hello war project and able to deploy fine. But right click the project and do a run as, run on server doesn't bring up the eclipse internal web browser automatically. I wonder if someone else has noticed this? Lin Tim McConnell wrote: Start of discussion thread. -- Thanks, Tim McConnell
Re: [DISCUSS] Release Geronimo Eclipse Plugin 2.0.0 (RC2)
Looks good. Thanks Tim. Attached are some minor updates/feedback on your instructions. On 9/12/07, Tim McConnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Start of discussion thread. -- Thanks, Tim McConnell === Step #1 -- Install prerequisites=== The Geronimo Eclipse Plugin 2.0.0 has a number of prerequisites that must be installed prior to the installation of the plugin itself. These are necessary to establish the proper Eclipse installation. They are: 1 -- Europa (also known as Eclipse 3.3), which is platform specific 2 -- Web Tools Platform (WTP) 2.0.1 3 -- Data Tools Platform (DTP) 1.5 4 -- Eclipse Modeling Framework (EMF) 2.3 5 -- Graphical Editing Framework (GEF) 3.3 You can manually download the latest versions of these artifacts but it is somewhat cumbersome. Instead I've created an ant script (that is based on the one used to build the plugin) that you can use that will download and unzip everything for you. You can get it from here: http://people.apache.org/~mcconne/releases/RC2/build.xml After you download it somewhere (preferably in a temp subdirectory) you can just invoke it for your specific platform using one of these three commands: ant win32 ant linux ant macos It will create an /org/EUROPA/eclipse/3.3 subdirectory with all the downloaded artifacts and an /EUROPA/eclipse subdirectory where everything has been unzipped. This is now the Eclipse installation directly you should use to test the Geronimo Eclipse 2.0.0 plugin. If you don't wish to use the ant script it's very important to ensure you have the latest versions of each -- otherwise the plugin will not function correctly. For example, the WTP 2.0.0 release is fairly old and buggy, and our plugin will not function correctly. That is why this ant script downloads and installs the WTP 2.0.1 RC1 artifacts. Now that you have all the prerequisites you can do either of the two scenarios below since each must work and both should emulate how it will be installed and used in the real world. Scenarios #1 and #2 are mutually exclusive though -- do one or the other but not both unless you first delete and recreate your Eclipse installation directory (preferably with the ant script above). === Scenario #1 -- Upzip everything === You can just download the plugin itself and unzip it into the same directory where all the prereqs were installed (e.g., EUROPA/eclipse). If you choose this option you must have an installed version of the Geronimo 2.0.1 server somewhere on your system so that you can define an Geronimo Server configuration. If you've never done this before the steps are fairly straightforward: 1 -- Download the plugin and unzip into your EUROPA/eclipse directory. You can download the plugin from here: http://people.apache.org/~mcconne/releases/RC2/g-eclipse-plugin-2.0.0-deployable-RC2.zip 2 -- Invoke the eclipse executable from your EUROPA/eclipse directory. Select or accept the default workspace. 3 -- Open the Java EE perspective. From within Eclipse: a. Close the Welcome tab b. Select Window -- Open Perspective -- Other -- Java EE You should now be in the Java EE perspective. You can see the open perspective tabs in the upper right-hand corner of your Eclipse workspace. 4 -- Define a new server. From Eclipse select: a. File -- New -- Other -- Server -- Server -- Next -- Apache. At this point you must see the Apache Geronimo v2.0 Server selection or the plugin was not installed/unzipped correctly. b. Select Apache Geronimo v2.0 Server -- Next -- then enter the root directory of your Geronimo server installation -- Next -- Next -- Next -- Finish c. Now in the Java EE perspective you should see the Apache Geronimo v2.0 server (bottom pane, middle tab usually) that you can now start in Eclipse (either right-click on it and select start or select the little green and white arrow on the far right of the server pane). You should then see the console and the familiar server startup messages. d. Right-click on the server and select Launch Geronimo Console to bring up an admin console browser window in eclipse. === Scenario #2 -- Use Staging Site === Alternatively, you can download both the Eclipse Plugin and the Geronimo server from the Staging Site