Re: [DISCUSS] JIRA Version page only available to authenticated users
For implementing this change, I have filed https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HBASE-26771 On Tue, Oct 26, 2021 at 8:36 PM Sean Busbey wrote: > for example, this is roughly what HBase 2.4.7 would look like: > > > https://gist.github.com/busbey/b5a849626bc4fcc2cbdd18f56c8d2807#file-apache-hbase-2-4-7-releasenotes-md > > (but the url would be to the rel/2.4.7 tag on github) > > On Tue, Oct 26, 2021 at 1:33 PM Sean Busbey wrote: > > > let's just start pointing at the release notes? for any given release > that > > should be where we as a community have spent the most effort crafting a > > message for our downstream folks. > > > > preferably rendered. Could we start putting the generated release note > > that just the part relevant to the specific patch release into the GitHub > > release tag's release note? IIRC that will render markdown and is > readable > > without logging in. We could integrate populating it via the GitHub API > > into the release tooling. > > > > On Tue, Oct 26, 2021 at 11:39 AM Nick Dimiduk > wrote: > > > >> I find it surprising that our announcements point people at something > that > >> requires a login. It seems not very “open” or “inviting”. > >> > >> On Tue, Oct 26, 2021 at 07:26 Sean Busbey wrote: > >> > >> > We have historically linked to the Jira Version page because it > >> provides a > >> > starting point on issue navigation that we don't get elsewhere. Plenty > >> of > >> > interactions with our issue tracker require a login. Why is that > >> threshold > >> > not acceptable here? I think we should just note that a login with > >> > low-friction signup is required. Though I guess we will need to > validate > >> > that it's still straightforward to create a jira account. > >> > > >> > The changelog and release notes for the release are both available on > >> > downloads.a.o if we want to link to something available without a > login > >> > rather than just mentioning them. If we're going to change what we'd > >> link > >> > to I'd rather one of those than jira at all. > >> > > >> > On Tue, Oct 26, 2021 at 5:55 AM 张铎(Duo Zhang) > >> > wrote: > >> > > >> > > At least for me I haven't typed it up in the past... > >> > > > >> > > I'm not sure whether you need to set up a template manually first... > >> > > > >> > > Wei-Chiu Chuang 于2021年10月26日周二 > >> 下午5:48写道： > >> > > > >> > > > Duo, > >> > > > Just out of curiosity, is this release note in the JIRA populated > >> > > > automatically? Or someone typed it up? > >> > > > > >> > > > On Tue, Oct 26, 2021 at 4:25 PM 张铎(Duo Zhang) < > >> palomino...@gmail.com> > >> > > > wrote: > >> > > > > >> > > > > I think this is what we should link in the announcement? > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=12310753=12350545 > >> > > > > > >> > > > > We should link the release note, not the page where we can > >> generate > >> > the > >> > > > > release note... > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Just my thoughts. Thanks. > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Nick Dimiduk 于2021年10月26日周二 上午1:19写道： > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > Heya, > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > The link we include in our announcement emails is only > >> accessible > >> > for > >> > > > > > people who are logged into JIRA. Seems like bad form. > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > I.e., > >> > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/HBASE/versions/12350545 > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > I doubt this is by design on our part. I wonder if JIRA has > >> always > >> > > been > >> > > > > > configured this way, or if it's an (un)intentional change on > the > >> > part > >> > > > of > >> > > > > > Infra. > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > Should we instead link to something else? > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > Thanks, > >> > > > > > Nick > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >
Re: [DISCUSS] JIRA Version page only available to authenticated users
for example, this is roughly what HBase 2.4.7 would look like: https://gist.github.com/busbey/b5a849626bc4fcc2cbdd18f56c8d2807#file-apache-hbase-2-4-7-releasenotes-md (but the url would be to the rel/2.4.7 tag on github) On Tue, Oct 26, 2021 at 1:33 PM Sean Busbey wrote: > let's just start pointing at the release notes? for any given release that > should be where we as a community have spent the most effort crafting a > message for our downstream folks. > > preferably rendered. Could we start putting the generated release note > that just the part relevant to the specific patch release into the GitHub > release tag's release note? IIRC that will render markdown and is readable > without logging in. We could integrate populating it via the GitHub API > into the release tooling. > > On Tue, Oct 26, 2021 at 11:39 AM Nick Dimiduk wrote: > >> I find it surprising that our announcements point people at something that >> requires a login. It seems not very “open” or “inviting”. >> >> On Tue, Oct 26, 2021 at 07:26 Sean Busbey wrote: >> >> > We have historically linked to the Jira Version page because it >> provides a >> > starting point on issue navigation that we don't get elsewhere. Plenty >> of >> > interactions with our issue tracker require a login. Why is that >> threshold >> > not acceptable here? I think we should just note that a login with >> > low-friction signup is required. Though I guess we will need to validate >> > that it's still straightforward to create a jira account. >> > >> > The changelog and release notes for the release are both available on >> > downloads.a.o if we want to link to something available without a login >> > rather than just mentioning them. If we're going to change what we'd >> link >> > to I'd rather one of those than jira at all. >> > >> > On Tue, Oct 26, 2021 at 5:55 AM 张铎(Duo Zhang) >> > wrote: >> > >> > > At least for me I haven't typed it up in the past... >> > > >> > > I'm not sure whether you need to set up a template manually first... >> > > >> > > Wei-Chiu Chuang 于2021年10月26日周二 >> 下午5:48写道： >> > > >> > > > Duo, >> > > > Just out of curiosity, is this release note in the JIRA populated >> > > > automatically? Or someone typed it up? >> > > > >> > > > On Tue, Oct 26, 2021 at 4:25 PM 张铎(Duo Zhang) < >> palomino...@gmail.com> >> > > > wrote: >> > > > >> > > > > I think this is what we should link in the announcement? >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=12310753=12350545 >> > > > > >> > > > > We should link the release note, not the page where we can >> generate >> > the >> > > > > release note... >> > > > > >> > > > > Just my thoughts. Thanks. >> > > > > >> > > > > Nick Dimiduk 于2021年10月26日周二 上午1:19写道： >> > > > > >> > > > > > Heya, >> > > > > > >> > > > > > The link we include in our announcement emails is only >> accessible >> > for >> > > > > > people who are logged into JIRA. Seems like bad form. >> > > > > > >> > > > > > I.e., >> > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/HBASE/versions/12350545 >> > > > > > >> > > > > > I doubt this is by design on our part. I wonder if JIRA has >> always >> > > been >> > > > > > configured this way, or if it's an (un)intentional change on the >> > part >> > > > of >> > > > > > Infra. >> > > > > > >> > > > > > Should we instead link to something else? >> > > > > > >> > > > > > Thanks, >> > > > > > Nick >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >
Re: [DISCUSS] JIRA Version page only available to authenticated users
let's just start pointing at the release notes? for any given release that should be where we as a community have spent the most effort crafting a message for our downstream folks. preferably rendered. Could we start putting the generated release note that just the part relevant to the specific patch release into the GitHub release tag's release note? IIRC that will render markdown and is readable without logging in. We could integrate populating it via the GitHub API into the release tooling. On Tue, Oct 26, 2021 at 11:39 AM Nick Dimiduk wrote: > I find it surprising that our announcements point people at something that > requires a login. It seems not very “open” or “inviting”. > > On Tue, Oct 26, 2021 at 07:26 Sean Busbey wrote: > > > We have historically linked to the Jira Version page because it provides > a > > starting point on issue navigation that we don't get elsewhere. Plenty of > > interactions with our issue tracker require a login. Why is that > threshold > > not acceptable here? I think we should just note that a login with > > low-friction signup is required. Though I guess we will need to validate > > that it's still straightforward to create a jira account. > > > > The changelog and release notes for the release are both available on > > downloads.a.o if we want to link to something available without a login > > rather than just mentioning them. If we're going to change what we'd link > > to I'd rather one of those than jira at all. > > > > On Tue, Oct 26, 2021 at 5:55 AM 张铎(Duo Zhang) > > wrote: > > > > > At least for me I haven't typed it up in the past... > > > > > > I'm not sure whether you need to set up a template manually first... > > > > > > Wei-Chiu Chuang 于2021年10月26日周二 > 下午5:48写道： > > > > > > > Duo, > > > > Just out of curiosity, is this release note in the JIRA populated > > > > automatically? Or someone typed it up? > > > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 26, 2021 at 4:25 PM 张铎(Duo Zhang) > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > I think this is what we should link in the announcement? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=12310753=12350545 > > > > > > > > > > We should link the release note, not the page where we can generate > > the > > > > > release note... > > > > > > > > > > Just my thoughts. Thanks. > > > > > > > > > > Nick Dimiduk 于2021年10月26日周二 上午1:19写道： > > > > > > > > > > > Heya, > > > > > > > > > > > > The link we include in our announcement emails is only accessible > > for > > > > > > people who are logged into JIRA. Seems like bad form. > > > > > > > > > > > > I.e., > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/HBASE/versions/12350545 > > > > > > > > > > > > I doubt this is by design on our part. I wonder if JIRA has > always > > > been > > > > > > configured this way, or if it's an (un)intentional change on the > > part > > > > of > > > > > > Infra. > > > > > > > > > > > > Should we instead link to something else? > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Nick > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
Re: [DISCUSS] JIRA Version page only available to authenticated users
I find it surprising that our announcements point people at something that requires a login. It seems not very “open” or “inviting”. On Tue, Oct 26, 2021 at 07:26 Sean Busbey wrote: > We have historically linked to the Jira Version page because it provides a > starting point on issue navigation that we don't get elsewhere. Plenty of > interactions with our issue tracker require a login. Why is that threshold > not acceptable here? I think we should just note that a login with > low-friction signup is required. Though I guess we will need to validate > that it's still straightforward to create a jira account. > > The changelog and release notes for the release are both available on > downloads.a.o if we want to link to something available without a login > rather than just mentioning them. If we're going to change what we'd link > to I'd rather one of those than jira at all. > > On Tue, Oct 26, 2021 at 5:55 AM 张铎(Duo Zhang) > wrote: > > > At least for me I haven't typed it up in the past... > > > > I'm not sure whether you need to set up a template manually first... > > > > Wei-Chiu Chuang 于2021年10月26日周二 下午5:48写道： > > > > > Duo, > > > Just out of curiosity, is this release note in the JIRA populated > > > automatically? Or someone typed it up? > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 26, 2021 at 4:25 PM 张铎(Duo Zhang) > > > wrote: > > > > > > > I think this is what we should link in the announcement? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=12310753=12350545 > > > > > > > > We should link the release note, not the page where we can generate > the > > > > release note... > > > > > > > > Just my thoughts. Thanks. > > > > > > > > Nick Dimiduk 于2021年10月26日周二 上午1:19写道： > > > > > > > > > Heya, > > > > > > > > > > The link we include in our announcement emails is only accessible > for > > > > > people who are logged into JIRA. Seems like bad form. > > > > > > > > > > I.e., > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/HBASE/versions/12350545 > > > > > > > > > > I doubt this is by design on our part. I wonder if JIRA has always > > been > > > > > configured this way, or if it's an (un)intentional change on the > part > > > of > > > > > Infra. > > > > > > > > > > Should we instead link to something else? > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > Nick > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
Re: [DISCUSS] JIRA Version page only available to authenticated users
We have historically linked to the Jira Version page because it provides a starting point on issue navigation that we don't get elsewhere. Plenty of interactions with our issue tracker require a login. Why is that threshold not acceptable here? I think we should just note that a login with low-friction signup is required. Though I guess we will need to validate that it's still straightforward to create a jira account. The changelog and release notes for the release are both available on downloads.a.o if we want to link to something available without a login rather than just mentioning them. If we're going to change what we'd link to I'd rather one of those than jira at all. On Tue, Oct 26, 2021 at 5:55 AM 张铎(Duo Zhang) wrote: > At least for me I haven't typed it up in the past... > > I'm not sure whether you need to set up a template manually first... > > Wei-Chiu Chuang 于2021年10月26日周二 下午5:48写道： > > > Duo, > > Just out of curiosity, is this release note in the JIRA populated > > automatically? Or someone typed it up? > > > > On Tue, Oct 26, 2021 at 4:25 PM 张铎(Duo Zhang) > > wrote: > > > > > I think this is what we should link in the announcement? > > > > > > > > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=12310753=12350545 > > > > > > We should link the release note, not the page where we can generate the > > > release note... > > > > > > Just my thoughts. Thanks. > > > > > > Nick Dimiduk 于2021年10月26日周二 上午1:19写道： > > > > > > > Heya, > > > > > > > > The link we include in our announcement emails is only accessible for > > > > people who are logged into JIRA. Seems like bad form. > > > > > > > > I.e., > https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/HBASE/versions/12350545 > > > > > > > > I doubt this is by design on our part. I wonder if JIRA has always > been > > > > configured this way, or if it's an (un)intentional change on the part > > of > > > > Infra. > > > > > > > > Should we instead link to something else? > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Nick > > > > > > > > > >
Re: [DISCUSS] JIRA Version page only available to authenticated users
At least for me I haven't typed it up in the past... I'm not sure whether you need to set up a template manually first... Wei-Chiu Chuang 于2021年10月26日周二 下午5:48写道： > Duo, > Just out of curiosity, is this release note in the JIRA populated > automatically? Or someone typed it up? > > On Tue, Oct 26, 2021 at 4:25 PM 张铎(Duo Zhang) > wrote: > > > I think this is what we should link in the announcement? > > > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=12310753=12350545 > > > > We should link the release note, not the page where we can generate the > > release note... > > > > Just my thoughts. Thanks. > > > > Nick Dimiduk 于2021年10月26日周二 上午1:19写道： > > > > > Heya, > > > > > > The link we include in our announcement emails is only accessible for > > > people who are logged into JIRA. Seems like bad form. > > > > > > I.e., https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/HBASE/versions/12350545 > > > > > > I doubt this is by design on our part. I wonder if JIRA has always been > > > configured this way, or if it's an (un)intentional change on the part > of > > > Infra. > > > > > > Should we instead link to something else? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Nick > > > > > >
Re: [DISCUSS] JIRA Version page only available to authenticated users
Duo, Just out of curiosity, is this release note in the JIRA populated automatically? Or someone typed it up? On Tue, Oct 26, 2021 at 4:25 PM 张铎(Duo Zhang) wrote: > I think this is what we should link in the announcement? > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=12310753=12350545 > > We should link the release note, not the page where we can generate the > release note... > > Just my thoughts. Thanks. > > Nick Dimiduk 于2021年10月26日周二 上午1:19写道： > > > Heya, > > > > The link we include in our announcement emails is only accessible for > > people who are logged into JIRA. Seems like bad form. > > > > I.e., https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/HBASE/versions/12350545 > > > > I doubt this is by design on our part. I wonder if JIRA has always been > > configured this way, or if it's an (un)intentional change on the part of > > Infra. > > > > Should we instead link to something else? > > > > Thanks, > > Nick > > >
Re: [DISCUSS] JIRA Version page only available to authenticated users
I think this is what we should link in the announcement? https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=12310753=12350545 We should link the release note, not the page where we can generate the release note... Just my thoughts. Thanks. Nick Dimiduk 于2021年10月26日周二 上午1:19写道： > Heya, > > The link we include in our announcement emails is only accessible for > people who are logged into JIRA. Seems like bad form. > > I.e., https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/HBASE/versions/12350545 > > I doubt this is by design on our part. I wonder if JIRA has always been > configured this way, or if it's an (un)intentional change on the part of > Infra. > > Should we instead link to something else? > > Thanks, > Nick >
