Re: [DISCUSSION] Docker OS support
Yeah. We have chosen Debian 10 for the binary release and clean up the license requirements for the first binary release. In the source level, we would also like to include a few platforms/versions in the main source code to be "supported" and the others will be moved to like a "extra" folder and not actively supported/tested. On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 9:22 AM Dave Fisher wrote: > I thought that the purpose of this discussion was to find the one or two > platforms for Heron to support in order to keep down the complexity of > making the first binary release for the community. > > Other platforms could be on a roadmap for future releases. > > Regards, > Dave > > > On May 26, 2020, at 12:26 PM, Ning Wang wrote: > > > > My concern about "latest" is that I feel most people hold it for some > time > > before migrating to the latest version (if it ever happens). If there are > > numbers, it could make sense to use the most popular version (plus the > > other criterias). > > > > On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 12:14 PM Oliver Bristow < > oli...@oliverbristow.co.uk> > > wrote: > > > >> Sorry if I missed the rationale for Ubuntu 18.04 instead of 20.04, but > >> would the latest LTS be a better choice? 18.04 was released before > Debian > >> 10, so that may be an argument for 20.04 re. compatibility if Debian 10 > is > >> the standard. > >> > >> There's already a 20.04 Dockerfile + I It looks like the vagrant setup > will > >> get an upgrade from 14.04 to 20.04 as a part of the python3 upgrade, and > >> seems to run fine so far. > >> > >> On Tue, 26 May 2020 at 19:30, Josh Fischer wrote: > >> > >>> Thanks for further clarifying. Yes, that is correct. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 1:16 PM Ning Wang > wrote: > >>> > +1. > > So my understanding is: > binary (in future release): Debian 10. > source: Debian 9/10 + ubuntu 18.04 + centos 7. version numbers will be > updated in the future after more discussions/votes. > > others will be moved to a "extra" folder only for reference. > > > > On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 6:13 AM Josh Fischer > >>> wrote: > > > Hi All, > > > > Based on what I've read on this thread a combination of CentOS/Debian > would > > be the better options for us to support multiple versions for the > > community. We will also support one version of Ubuntu. > > > > So. I will start a vote in 72 hours that calls on the vote on > >> this. > > I'm going to write down my understanding of what this thread covers > >> to > get > > some actionable topics to vote on. If I've written anything down > > incorrectly please speak up before we start a vote. > > > > Debian: > >- Debian10 is the official docker image to support and be > >> published > to > > Docker Hub, we will also support Debian9. > > CentOS: > >- We will support CentOS7. Note, I do not think it has native > > Python3.7 support, but we are also not there yet. > > Ubuntu: > >- We will still support one version. At this time the version is > 18.04. > > > > We will upgrade supported versions of each OS as updates/deprecation > >> of > > support are needed. > > > > Again let's wait 72 hours before starting a vote. Also please check > >>> that > > the statements I wrote down are what you understood! > > > > See below for notes on lazy consensus: > > https://community.apache.org/committers/lazyConsensus.html > > > > - Josh > > > > > > On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 9:41 PM Ning Wang > >>> wrote: > > > >> +1 > >> > >> On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 7:26 PM Nicholas Nezis < > nicholas.ne...@gmail.com > >> > >> wrote: > >> > >>> I like those options. > >>> > >>> On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 10:15 PM Josh Fischer < > >> j...@joshfischer.io > > >> wrote: > >>> > Let's wait 3 more days for anyone to give input. Then we can > start a > >>> vote > to make a final decision on which containers for us to support. > Keep > >> in > mind that even though we do need to plan for Python3 support > >>> (There > > is > >>> work > in progress now) we do not need it as of yet. > > - Josh > > On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 8:34 PM thinker0 > wrote: > > > My experience is mainly for CentOS 7, so I think it would be > >>> nice > > if > >> it > was > > included. > > > > 2020년 5월 21일 (목) 오전 9:56, Josh Fischer >>> 님이 > 작성: > > > >> Well thought out Windham. I like how you narrowed the > >>> criteria > >> down > >>> to > >> Debian10/CentOS7(depending on PY3 support) thinking about > overall > support > >> and what others would need/want. > >> > >> +1 > >> >
Re: [DISCUSSION] Docker OS support
I thought that the purpose of this discussion was to find the one or two platforms for Heron to support in order to keep down the complexity of making the first binary release for the community. Other platforms could be on a roadmap for future releases. Regards, Dave > On May 26, 2020, at 12:26 PM, Ning Wang wrote: > > My concern about "latest" is that I feel most people hold it for some time > before migrating to the latest version (if it ever happens). If there are > numbers, it could make sense to use the most popular version (plus the > other criterias). > > On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 12:14 PM Oliver Bristow > wrote: > >> Sorry if I missed the rationale for Ubuntu 18.04 instead of 20.04, but >> would the latest LTS be a better choice? 18.04 was released before Debian >> 10, so that may be an argument for 20.04 re. compatibility if Debian 10 is >> the standard. >> >> There's already a 20.04 Dockerfile + I It looks like the vagrant setup will >> get an upgrade from 14.04 to 20.04 as a part of the python3 upgrade, and >> seems to run fine so far. >> >> On Tue, 26 May 2020 at 19:30, Josh Fischer wrote: >> >>> Thanks for further clarifying. Yes, that is correct. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 1:16 PM Ning Wang wrote: >>> +1. So my understanding is: binary (in future release): Debian 10. source: Debian 9/10 + ubuntu 18.04 + centos 7. version numbers will be updated in the future after more discussions/votes. others will be moved to a "extra" folder only for reference. On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 6:13 AM Josh Fischer >>> wrote: > Hi All, > > Based on what I've read on this thread a combination of CentOS/Debian would > be the better options for us to support multiple versions for the > community. We will also support one version of Ubuntu. > > So. I will start a vote in 72 hours that calls on the vote on >> this. > I'm going to write down my understanding of what this thread covers >> to get > some actionable topics to vote on. If I've written anything down > incorrectly please speak up before we start a vote. > > Debian: >- Debian10 is the official docker image to support and be >> published to > Docker Hub, we will also support Debian9. > CentOS: >- We will support CentOS7. Note, I do not think it has native > Python3.7 support, but we are also not there yet. > Ubuntu: >- We will still support one version. At this time the version is 18.04. > > We will upgrade supported versions of each OS as updates/deprecation >> of > support are needed. > > Again let's wait 72 hours before starting a vote. Also please check >>> that > the statements I wrote down are what you understood! > > See below for notes on lazy consensus: > https://community.apache.org/committers/lazyConsensus.html > > - Josh > > > On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 9:41 PM Ning Wang >>> wrote: > >> +1 >> >> On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 7:26 PM Nicholas Nezis < nicholas.ne...@gmail.com >> >> wrote: >> >>> I like those options. >>> >>> On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 10:15 PM Josh Fischer < >> j...@joshfischer.io >> wrote: >>> Let's wait 3 more days for anyone to give input. Then we can start a >>> vote to make a final decision on which containers for us to support. Keep >> in mind that even though we do need to plan for Python3 support >>> (There > is >>> work in progress now) we do not need it as of yet. - Josh On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 8:34 PM thinker0 wrote: > My experience is mainly for CentOS 7, so I think it would be >>> nice > if >> it was > included. > > 2020년 5월 21일 (목) 오전 9:56, Josh Fischer >> 님이 작성: > >> Well thought out Windham. I like how you narrowed the >>> criteria >> down >>> to >> Debian10/CentOS7(depending on PY3 support) thinking about overall support >> and what others would need/want. >> >> +1 >> >> - Josh >> >> On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 8:39 PM Windham Wong < >>> windham.w...@stormeye.io > >> wrote: >> >>> My experience is that, people tends to pick their >> container > image >>> OS >> based >>> on few criterias only: >>> 1) image size, alpine always win, then debian/centos and >>> 3rd is >>> ubuntu/centos. alpine is always the smallest but not much > library >> provided >>> and require to compile manually. debian is always good because > it >>> has >>> apt-get to provide loads of library. centos is cool as >>> debian
