Re: Systemd support in 2.4

2014-09-17 Thread Jan Kaluža

On 09/15/2014 08:00 AM, Jan Kaluža wrote:

On 09/14/2014 01:21 PM, Martynas Bendorius wrote:

Hello,

Is there any special reason why mod_systemd and mod_journald (available
in trunk) are not backported to 2.4 yet?


Hi,

I think mod_systemd could be proposed for 2.4 branch (maybe even with
the changes adding socket activation), but for mod_journald, we would
have to backport modular logging, which breaks the API/ABI and
therefore I'm afraid that won't happen in 2.4 branch :(.


mod_systemd and socket activation proposed in r1625531.

Jan Kaluza


Jan Kaluza


As we have a lot of distributions already using systemd by default
(CentOS/RHEL 7, Fedora, Arch Linux, CoreOS, openSUSE), and more of them
are going to use systemd by default (Debian 8 (Jessie), Ubuntu), it
requires manual patching of apache for the support of systemd/journald.

Thank you!







Re: Systemd support in 2.4

2014-09-17 Thread Jeff Trawick
On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 2:00 AM, Jan Kaluža jkal...@redhat.com wrote:

 On 09/14/2014 01:21 PM, Martynas Bendorius wrote:

 Hello,

 Is there any special reason why mod_systemd and mod_journald (available
 in trunk) are not backported to 2.4 yet?


 Hi,

 I think mod_systemd could be proposed for 2.4 branch (maybe even with the
 changes adding socket activation), but for mod_journald, we would have to
 backport modular logging, which breaks the API/ABI and therefore I'm
 afraid that won't happen in 2.4 branch :(.


I have an old patch somewhere that doesn't break the API/ABI, and
accommodates such differences as syslog being built-in in 2.4.x.  I didn't
realize that anybody besides me actually cared.

I'll try to find time to see how it fits in 2.4.x-HEAD.



 Jan Kaluza


  As we have a lot of distributions already using systemd by default
 (CentOS/RHEL 7, Fedora, Arch Linux, CoreOS, openSUSE), and more of them
 are going to use systemd by default (Debian 8 (Jessie), Ubuntu), it
 requires manual patching of apache for the support of systemd/journald.

 Thank you!





-- 
Born in Roswell... married an alien...
http://emptyhammock.com/


Re: Systemd support in 2.4

2014-09-17 Thread Jim Jagielski
Whether we like it or not, systemd is here to stay.

   systemd: The Emacs of Linux init implementations.

*grin*
On Sep 17, 2014, at 9:22 AM, Jeff Trawick traw...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 2:00 AM, Jan Kaluža jkal...@redhat.com wrote:
 On 09/14/2014 01:21 PM, Martynas Bendorius wrote:
 Hello,
 
 Is there any special reason why mod_systemd and mod_journald (available
 in trunk) are not backported to 2.4 yet?
 
 Hi,
 
 I think mod_systemd could be proposed for 2.4 branch (maybe even with the 
 changes adding socket activation), but for mod_journald, we would have to 
 backport modular logging, which breaks the API/ABI and therefore I'm afraid 
 that won't happen in 2.4 branch :(.
 
 
 I have an old patch somewhere that doesn't break the API/ABI, and 
 accommodates such differences as syslog being built-in in 2.4.x.  I didn't 
 realize that anybody besides me actually cared.
 
 I'll try to find time to see how it fits in 2.4.x-HEAD.
 
  
 Jan Kaluza
 
 
 As we have a lot of distributions already using systemd by default
 (CentOS/RHEL 7, Fedora, Arch Linux, CoreOS, openSUSE), and more of them
 are going to use systemd by default (Debian 8 (Jessie), Ubuntu), it
 requires manual patching of apache for the support of systemd/journald.
 
 Thank you!
 
 
 
 
 
 -- 
 Born in Roswell... married an alien...
 http://emptyhammock.com/