Re: Non-blocking PME discussion, ASF Slack, September 10, 13.00 (MSK)

2019-09-10 Thread Павлухин Иван
Anton,

Thank you very much for performing the discussion! I found it pretty
much useful. And I really like such kind of collaboration and hope
that we will go forward in that direction.

Looking forward for meeting minutes and slides.

вт, 10 сент. 2019 г. в 10:24, Alexey Goncharuk :
>
> Anton,
>
> I will not be able to attend the meeting in person, so I will test this new
> communication channel from the other side. Let's see how well decisions and
> discussion is translated to the dev list :)
>
> пн, 9 сент. 2019 г. в 13:52, Anton Vinogradov :
>
> > Alexey,
> > thanks for pointing this.
> >
> > I've prepared the presentation with explanation how it works now and with a
> > set of proposals.
> > So, I'm not going to have a chat with somebody tomorrow.
> > I'll, as usual, will start a video call and share the screen with the
> > presentation, like a regular webinar.
> > Sounds good?
> >
> > BTW, I'll be at GG office, you may join me via the internet or in the same
> > room.
> >
> > On Mon, Sep 9, 2019 at 1:34 PM Alexey Goncharuk <
> > alexey.goncha...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hello Anton,
> > >
> > > I doubt that Slack channel is a good way to discuss/make decisions on
> > such
> > > an important topic. Changes in PME are usually the hard ones, and slack
> > is
> > > kind of a synchronous communication channel - with no known context it
> > will
> > > be hard to give appropriate feedback. Do you have something to make
> > > Igniters familiar with beforehand?
> > >
> > > пн, 9 сент. 2019 г. в 09:01, Anton Vinogradov :
> > >
> > > > Igniters,
> > > >
> > > > As far as you may know, we have blocking PME now.
> > > > It means that the upcoming operation's latency may be increased or
> > > already
> > > > started operations can be canceled.
> > > >
> > > > I've done some homework and found it's possible to have almost
> > > non-blocking
> > > > PME (fully non-blocked in some cases).
> > > > I'd like to discuss found with the community before starting the
> > > > implementation.
> > > >
> > > > Let's have a first community-wide discussion using the ASF Slack.
> > > > I've created the channel [1] and going to explain found tomorrow
> > > (September
> > > > 10) 13.00 (MSK).
> > > > Disclaimer: We'll use the Russian language this time.
> > > >
> > > > [1] https://the-asf.slack.com/messages/CMTJBREKD
> > > >
> > >
> >



-- 
Best regards,
Ivan Pavlukhin


Re: Non-blocking PME discussion, ASF Slack, September 10, 13.00 (MSK)

2019-09-10 Thread Alexey Goncharuk
Anton,

I will not be able to attend the meeting in person, so I will test this new
communication channel from the other side. Let's see how well decisions and
discussion is translated to the dev list :)

пн, 9 сент. 2019 г. в 13:52, Anton Vinogradov :

> Alexey,
> thanks for pointing this.
>
> I've prepared the presentation with explanation how it works now and with a
> set of proposals.
> So, I'm not going to have a chat with somebody tomorrow.
> I'll, as usual, will start a video call and share the screen with the
> presentation, like a regular webinar.
> Sounds good?
>
> BTW, I'll be at GG office, you may join me via the internet or in the same
> room.
>
> On Mon, Sep 9, 2019 at 1:34 PM Alexey Goncharuk <
> alexey.goncha...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hello Anton,
> >
> > I doubt that Slack channel is a good way to discuss/make decisions on
> such
> > an important topic. Changes in PME are usually the hard ones, and slack
> is
> > kind of a synchronous communication channel - with no known context it
> will
> > be hard to give appropriate feedback. Do you have something to make
> > Igniters familiar with beforehand?
> >
> > пн, 9 сент. 2019 г. в 09:01, Anton Vinogradov :
> >
> > > Igniters,
> > >
> > > As far as you may know, we have blocking PME now.
> > > It means that the upcoming operation's latency may be increased or
> > already
> > > started operations can be canceled.
> > >
> > > I've done some homework and found it's possible to have almost
> > non-blocking
> > > PME (fully non-blocked in some cases).
> > > I'd like to discuss found with the community before starting the
> > > implementation.
> > >
> > > Let's have a first community-wide discussion using the ASF Slack.
> > > I've created the channel [1] and going to explain found tomorrow
> > (September
> > > 10) 13.00 (MSK).
> > > Disclaimer: We'll use the Russian language this time.
> > >
> > > [1] https://the-asf.slack.com/messages/CMTJBREKD
> > >
> >
>


Re: Non-blocking PME discussion, ASF Slack, September 10, 13.00 (MSK)

2019-09-09 Thread Anton Vinogradov
Alexey,
thanks for pointing this.

I've prepared the presentation with explanation how it works now and with a
set of proposals.
So, I'm not going to have a chat with somebody tomorrow.
I'll, as usual, will start a video call and share the screen with the
presentation, like a regular webinar.
Sounds good?

BTW, I'll be at GG office, you may join me via the internet or in the same
room.

On Mon, Sep 9, 2019 at 1:34 PM Alexey Goncharuk 
wrote:

> Hello Anton,
>
> I doubt that Slack channel is a good way to discuss/make decisions on such
> an important topic. Changes in PME are usually the hard ones, and slack is
> kind of a synchronous communication channel - with no known context it will
> be hard to give appropriate feedback. Do you have something to make
> Igniters familiar with beforehand?
>
> пн, 9 сент. 2019 г. в 09:01, Anton Vinogradov :
>
> > Igniters,
> >
> > As far as you may know, we have blocking PME now.
> > It means that the upcoming operation's latency may be increased or
> already
> > started operations can be canceled.
> >
> > I've done some homework and found it's possible to have almost
> non-blocking
> > PME (fully non-blocked in some cases).
> > I'd like to discuss found with the community before starting the
> > implementation.
> >
> > Let's have a first community-wide discussion using the ASF Slack.
> > I've created the channel [1] and going to explain found tomorrow
> (September
> > 10) 13.00 (MSK).
> > Disclaimer: We'll use the Russian language this time.
> >
> > [1] https://the-asf.slack.com/messages/CMTJBREKD
> >
>


Re: Non-blocking PME discussion, ASF Slack, September 10, 13.00 (MSK)

2019-09-09 Thread Alexey Goncharuk
Hello Anton,

I doubt that Slack channel is a good way to discuss/make decisions on such
an important topic. Changes in PME are usually the hard ones, and slack is
kind of a synchronous communication channel - with no known context it will
be hard to give appropriate feedback. Do you have something to make
Igniters familiar with beforehand?

пн, 9 сент. 2019 г. в 09:01, Anton Vinogradov :

> Igniters,
>
> As far as you may know, we have blocking PME now.
> It means that the upcoming operation's latency may be increased or already
> started operations can be canceled.
>
> I've done some homework and found it's possible to have almost non-blocking
> PME (fully non-blocked in some cases).
> I'd like to discuss found with the community before starting the
> implementation.
>
> Let's have a first community-wide discussion using the ASF Slack.
> I've created the channel [1] and going to explain found tomorrow (September
> 10) 13.00 (MSK).
> Disclaimer: We'll use the Russian language this time.
>
> [1] https://the-asf.slack.com/messages/CMTJBREKD
>


Non-blocking PME discussion, ASF Slack, September 10, 13.00 (MSK)

2019-09-09 Thread Anton Vinogradov
Igniters,

As far as you may know, we have blocking PME now.
It means that the upcoming operation's latency may be increased or already
started operations can be canceled.

I've done some homework and found it's possible to have almost non-blocking
PME (fully non-blocked in some cases).
I'd like to discuss found with the community before starting the
implementation.

Let's have a first community-wide discussion using the ASF Slack.
I've created the channel [1] and going to explain found tomorrow (September
10) 13.00 (MSK).
Disclaimer: We'll use the Russian language this time.

[1] https://the-asf.slack.com/messages/CMTJBREKD