Re: [DISCUSS] Move Jena repo to gitbox or github

2018-12-11 Thread Chris Tomlinson
Hi Andy,

My GH and ASF accounts are linked. As I understand the note from D.Gruno once 
jena is moved to GB then we can use either GB or GH or both in our individual 
workflows. For me just working with GH would be my choice. 

I’m not sure how far away 3.10.0 is (I’ve completed all of the pending 
jena-text updates for 3.10.0) but maybe it makes sense if that release can be 
completed prior to moving from git-wip-us without running into the forced move 
beginning on 7 Feb 2019.

It would also be helpful to see the docs moved from SVN to GH/GB so we have a 
single environment. I think I saw this discussed briefly some time ago but I 
don’t recall a resolution.

I agree that JIRA integration is key - it appears that it will continue since 
JIRA is used to control the migration from git-wip-us and svn.

Regards,
Chris

> On Dec 11, 2018, at 5:37 AM, Andy Seaborne  wrote:
> 
> Committers -
> 
> Who has the link up for pushing to GH directly?
> 
> https://gitbox.apache.org/ -> "Link GitHub and ASF accounts"
> 
>Andy
> 
> On 10/12/2018 16:11, Andy Seaborne wrote:
>> I confess I don't completely understand the details/changes here
>> "either the ASF repository system (gitbox.apache.org) OR GitHub for your 
>> development and code pushes"
>> unless you can mix-and-match, in case anyone does not want to forced to have 
>> a GH account. gitbox.apache.org says "will be granted write-access on both 
>> services (gitbox and github)" if you have your GH account linked to your 
>> Apache account (which I do).
>> The other unclarity is what happens about JIRA integration. We have managed 
>> to get people to use JIRA so whatever we may think about it at a technical 
>> level, we do have as a communication path.  The Q has been asked on the 
>> infra list but no response yet.  The text about either service sort of hints 
>> that that if there is an integration, it works on both access points.
>> JIRA is useful during a release to find changes since last time. Obviously, 
>> GH issues and labels can be used for that but we need to set that up. There 
>> again, a clearout of old dead stuff would not be so bad!
>> We have a release sometime soon (ish, maybe, whatever) and I think my only 
>> issue is controlling the switchover point in time, sooner is better, and 
>> otherwise we do it and see what happens.
>> For workflow, if we have to fix on one tailored to GH or gitbox.a.o, shall 
>> we go GH? If it's both, we can start being more GH on our own timescales.
>> Thoughts?
>> Let's discuss for a few days and if nothing arises, run the vote.
>> Andy
>> But please, not go back to SVN :-)
>> On 09/12/2018 20:47, Andy Seaborne wrote:
>>> 
>>> [IF YOUR PROJECT DOES NOT HAVE GIT REPOSITORIES ON GIT-WIP-US PLEASE
>>>DISREGARD THIS EMAIL; IT WAS MASS-MAILED TO ALL APACHE PROJECTS]
>>> 
>>> Hello Apache projects,
>>> I am writing to you because you may have git repositories on the
>>> git-wip-us server, which is slated to be decommissioned in the coming
>>> months. All repositories will be moved to the new gitbox service which
>>> includes direct write access on github as well as the standard ASF
>>> commit access via gitbox.apache.org.
>>> 
>>> ## Why this move? ##
>>> The move comes as a result of retiring the git-wip service, as the
>>> hardware it runs on is longing for retirement. In lieu of this, we
>>> have decided to consolidate the two services (git-wip and gitbox), to
>>> ease the management of our repository systems and future-proof the
>>> underlying hardware. The move is fully automated, and ideally, nothing
>>> will change in your workflow other than added features and access to
>>> GitHub.
>>> 
>>> ## Timeframe for relocation ##
>>> Initially, we are asking that projects voluntarily request to move
>>> their repositories to gitbox, hence this email. The voluntary
>>> timeframe is between now and January 9th 2019, during which projects
>>> are free to either move over to gitbox or stay put on git-wip. After
>>> this phase, we will be requiring the remaining projects to move within
>>> one month, after which we will move the remaining projects over.
>>> 
>>> To have your project moved in this initial phase, you will need:
>>> 
>>> - Consensus in the project (documented via the mailing list)
>>> - File a JIRA ticket with INFRA to voluntarily move your project repos
>>> over to gitbox (as stated, this is highly automated and will take
>>> between a minute and an hour, depending on the size and number of
>>> your repositories)
>>> 
>>> To sum up the preliminary timeline;
>>> 
>>> - December 9th 2018 -January 9th 2019: Voluntary (coordinated)
>>> relocation
>>> - January 9th -February 6th: Mandated (coordinated) relocation
>>> - February 7th: All remaining repositories are mass migrated.
>>> 
>>> This timeline may change to accommodate various scenarios.
>>> 
>>> ## Using GitHub with ASF repositories ##
>>> When your project has moved, you are free to use either the ASF
>>> repository system 

Re: [DISCUSS] Move Jena repo to gitbox or github

2018-12-11 Thread ajs6f
I've linked my account (many months ago). It changed nothing at all, not in 
Github, not elsewhere. I think we need to make the move for the project as a 
whole before that happens.

(At a conference, but will try to reply to the larger migration question 
today-- TL;DR: I'm in favor.)

ajs6f

> On Dec 11, 2018, at 6:37 AM, Andy Seaborne  wrote:
> 
> Committers -
> 
> Who has the link up for pushing to GH directly?
> 
> https://gitbox.apache.org/ -> "Link GitHub and ASF accounts"
> 
>Andy
> 
> On 10/12/2018 16:11, Andy Seaborne wrote:
>> I confess I don't completely understand the details/changes here
>> "either the ASF repository system (gitbox.apache.org) OR GitHub for your 
>> development and code pushes"
>> unless you can mix-and-match, in case anyone does not want to forced to have 
>> a GH account. gitbox.apache.org says "will be granted write-access on both 
>> services (gitbox and github)" if you have your GH account linked to your 
>> Apache account (which I do).
>> The other unclarity is what happens about JIRA integration. We have managed 
>> to get people to use JIRA so whatever we may think about it at a technical 
>> level, we do have as a communication path.  The Q has been asked on the 
>> infra list but no response yet.  The text about either service sort of hints 
>> that that if there is an integration, it works on both access points.
>> JIRA is useful during a release to find changes since last time. Obviously, 
>> GH issues and labels can be used for that but we need to set that up. There 
>> again, a clearout of old dead stuff would not be so bad!
>> We have a release sometime soon (ish, maybe, whatever) and I think my only 
>> issue is controlling the switchover point in time, sooner is better, and 
>> otherwise we do it and see what happens.
>> For workflow, if we have to fix on one tailored to GH or gitbox.a.o, shall 
>> we go GH? If it's both, we can start being more GH on our own timescales.
>> Thoughts?
>> Let's discuss for a few days and if nothing arises, run the vote.
>> Andy
>> But please, not go back to SVN :-)
>> On 09/12/2018 20:47, Andy Seaborne wrote:
>>> 
>>> [IF YOUR PROJECT DOES NOT HAVE GIT REPOSITORIES ON GIT-WIP-US PLEASE
>>>DISREGARD THIS EMAIL; IT WAS MASS-MAILED TO ALL APACHE PROJECTS]
>>> 
>>> Hello Apache projects,
>>> I am writing to you because you may have git repositories on the
>>> git-wip-us server, which is slated to be decommissioned in the coming
>>> months. All repositories will be moved to the new gitbox service which
>>> includes direct write access on github as well as the standard ASF
>>> commit access via gitbox.apache.org.
>>> 
>>> ## Why this move? ##
>>> The move comes as a result of retiring the git-wip service, as the
>>> hardware it runs on is longing for retirement. In lieu of this, we
>>> have decided to consolidate the two services (git-wip and gitbox), to
>>> ease the management of our repository systems and future-proof the
>>> underlying hardware. The move is fully automated, and ideally, nothing
>>> will change in your workflow other than added features and access to
>>> GitHub.
>>> 
>>> ## Timeframe for relocation ##
>>> Initially, we are asking that projects voluntarily request to move
>>> their repositories to gitbox, hence this email. The voluntary
>>> timeframe is between now and January 9th 2019, during which projects
>>> are free to either move over to gitbox or stay put on git-wip. After
>>> this phase, we will be requiring the remaining projects to move within
>>> one month, after which we will move the remaining projects over.
>>> 
>>> To have your project moved in this initial phase, you will need:
>>> 
>>> - Consensus in the project (documented via the mailing list)
>>> - File a JIRA ticket with INFRA to voluntarily move your project repos
>>> over to gitbox (as stated, this is highly automated and will take
>>> between a minute and an hour, depending on the size and number of
>>> your repositories)
>>> 
>>> To sum up the preliminary timeline;
>>> 
>>> - December 9th 2018 -January 9th 2019: Voluntary (coordinated)
>>> relocation
>>> - January 9th -February 6th: Mandated (coordinated) relocation
>>> - February 7th: All remaining repositories are mass migrated.
>>> 
>>> This timeline may change to accommodate various scenarios.
>>> 
>>> ## Using GitHub with ASF repositories ##
>>> When your project has moved, you are free to use either the ASF
>>> repository system (gitbox.apache.org) OR GitHub for your development
>>> and code pushes. To be able to use GitHub, please follow the primer
>>> at: https://reference.apache.org/committer/github
>>> 
>>> 
>>> We appreciate your understanding of this issue, and hope that your
>>> project can coordinate voluntarily moving your repositories in a
>>> timely manner.
>>> 
>>> All settings, such as commit mail targets, issue linking, PR
>>> notification schemes etc will automatically be migrated to gitbox as
>>> well.
>>> 
>>> With regards, Daniel on behalf 

Re: [DISCUSS] Move Jena repo to gitbox or github

2018-12-11 Thread Andy Seaborne

Committers -

Who has the link up for pushing to GH directly?

https://gitbox.apache.org/ -> "Link GitHub and ASF accounts"

Andy

On 10/12/2018 16:11, Andy Seaborne wrote:

I confess I don't completely understand the details/changes here

"either the ASF repository system (gitbox.apache.org) OR GitHub for your 
development and code pushes"


unless you can mix-and-match, in case anyone does not want to forced to 
have a GH account. gitbox.apache.org says "will be granted write-access 
on both services (gitbox and github)" if you have your GH account linked 
to your Apache account (which I do).


The other unclarity is what happens about JIRA integration. We have 
managed to get people to use JIRA so whatever we may think about it at a 
technical level, we do have as a communication path.  The Q has been 
asked on the infra list but no response yet.  The text about either 
service sort of hints that that if there is an integration, it works on 
both access points.


JIRA is useful during a release to find changes since last time. 
Obviously, GH issues and labels can be used for that but we need to set 
that up. There again, a clearout of old dead stuff would not be so bad!


We have a release sometime soon (ish, maybe, whatever) and I think my 
only issue is controlling the switchover point in time, sooner is 
better, and otherwise we do it and see what happens.


For workflow, if we have to fix on one tailored to GH or gitbox.a.o, 
shall we go GH? If it's both, we can start being more GH on our own 
timescales.


Thoughts?

Let's discuss for a few days and if nothing arises, run the vote.

     Andy

But please, not go back to SVN :-)

On 09/12/2018 20:47, Andy Seaborne wrote:


[IF YOUR PROJECT DOES NOT HAVE GIT REPOSITORIES ON GIT-WIP-US PLEASE
   DISREGARD THIS EMAIL; IT WAS MASS-MAILED TO ALL APACHE PROJECTS]

Hello Apache projects,
I am writing to you because you may have git repositories on the
git-wip-us server, which is slated to be decommissioned in the coming
months. All repositories will be moved to the new gitbox service which
includes direct write access on github as well as the standard ASF
commit access via gitbox.apache.org.

## Why this move? ##
The move comes as a result of retiring the git-wip service, as the
hardware it runs on is longing for retirement. In lieu of this, we
have decided to consolidate the two services (git-wip and gitbox), to
ease the management of our repository systems and future-proof the
underlying hardware. The move is fully automated, and ideally, nothing
will change in your workflow other than added features and access to
GitHub.

## Timeframe for relocation ##
Initially, we are asking that projects voluntarily request to move
their repositories to gitbox, hence this email. The voluntary
timeframe is between now and January 9th 2019, during which projects
are free to either move over to gitbox or stay put on git-wip. After
this phase, we will be requiring the remaining projects to move within
one month, after which we will move the remaining projects over.

To have your project moved in this initial phase, you will need:

- Consensus in the project (documented via the mailing list)
- File a JIRA ticket with INFRA to voluntarily move your project repos
    over to gitbox (as stated, this is highly automated and will take
    between a minute and an hour, depending on the size and number of
    your repositories)

To sum up the preliminary timeline;

- December 9th 2018 -January 9th 2019: Voluntary (coordinated)
    relocation
- January 9th -February 6th: Mandated (coordinated) relocation
- February 7th: All remaining repositories are mass migrated.

This timeline may change to accommodate various scenarios.

## Using GitHub with ASF repositories ##
When your project has moved, you are free to use either the ASF
repository system (gitbox.apache.org) OR GitHub for your development
and code pushes. To be able to use GitHub, please follow the primer
at: https://reference.apache.org/committer/github


We appreciate your understanding of this issue, and hope that your
project can coordinate voluntarily moving your repositories in a
timely manner.

All settings, such as commit mail targets, issue linking, PR
notification schemes etc will automatically be migrated to gitbox as
well.

With regards, Daniel on behalf of ASF Infra.

PS:For inquiries, please reply to us...@infra.apache.org, not your
project's dev list :-).