Re: [PR] Add get support page [kafka-site]

2024-01-15 Thread via GitHub


fpapon commented on PR #577:
URL: https://github.com/apache/kafka-site/pull/577#issuecomment-1891670491

   > @fpapon I guess you mean Kafka PMC :) Not Karaf :)
   
   Ah yes, sorry, split brain :)
   I fixed.


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Re: [PR] Add get support page [kafka-site]

2024-01-15 Thread via GitHub


jbonofre commented on PR #577:
URL: https://github.com/apache/kafka-site/pull/577#issuecomment-1891649260

   @fpapon I guess you mean Kafka PMC :) Not Karaf :) 


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Re: [PR] Add get support page [kafka-site]

2024-01-15 Thread via GitHub


fpapon commented on PR #577:
URL: https://github.com/apache/kafka-site/pull/577#issuecomment-1891642675

   As the Apache Karaf PMC rejeted this proposal on the mailing list, I'm 
closing this PR.
   Link to the thread:
   https://lists.apache.org/thread/sld85ly7fvvvlb5bh2856qqcpnckg2on


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Re: [PR] Add get support page [kafka-site]

2024-01-15 Thread via GitHub


fpapon closed pull request #577: Add get support page
URL: https://github.com/apache/kafka-site/pull/577


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Re: [PR] Add get support page [kafka-site]

2024-01-10 Thread via GitHub


fpapon commented on PR #577:
URL: https://github.com/apache/kafka-site/pull/577#issuecomment-1885101241

   @ableegoldman I pushed some changes, feel free to review/comment :)


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Re: [PR] Add get support page [kafka-site]

2024-01-10 Thread via GitHub


fpapon commented on PR #577:
URL: https://github.com/apache/kafka-site/pull/577#issuecomment-1884961276

   @mimaison ok thanks for your feeedbacks. I will update the PR according to 
the comments of the people and then resend an email to the mailing for the 
proposal and see how the community react on it.


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Re: [PR] Add get support page [kafka-site]

2024-01-10 Thread via GitHub


mimaison commented on PR #577:
URL: https://github.com/apache/kafka-site/pull/577#issuecomment-1884814599

   No worries, there's no need to blame anybody for such a small issue. The 
initiative to add this page is, in my opinion, good and contributions are 
always welcome. It's just the initial content and quick approvals that looked 
concerning.
   
   @fpapon As pointed by several committers there are a few issues with the 
current content but we should be able to agree on what to do and update this PR 
accordingly. I wonder if the first step would be to decide whether we want this 
page on the website. It's probably best to email the dev to get some agreement, 
or at least allow people to raise objections and then start gathering content.


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Re: [PR] Add get support page [kafka-site]

2024-01-10 Thread via GitHub


jbonofre commented on PR #577:
URL: https://github.com/apache/kafka-site/pull/577#issuecomment-1884745111

   @mimaison I take the blame on me: I did mistakes with the bright side of 
things. 
   1. I thought this kind of change was approved by the community/PMC
   2. As the same page exists in several ASF projects, and it was a copy from 
Camel, I thought it was ok straight forward without checking the diff in 
details.
   
   I share your points, but I would not be too sharp. @fpapon is just trying to 
help. I would add more companies/providers in this page as part of this PR. I 
think we can say that it's for the good of the Kafka community and diversity.
   
   I'm happy to chat with you about that on Slack or on a call if you want.


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Re: [PR] Add get support page [kafka-site]

2024-01-10 Thread via GitHub


fpapon commented on PR #577:
URL: https://github.com/apache/kafka-site/pull/577#issuecomment-1884696661

   @mimaison I replied to the original thread on the mailing list to rebirth 
the discussion.


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Re: [PR] Add get support page [kafka-site]

2024-01-10 Thread via GitHub


fpapon commented on PR #577:
URL: https://github.com/apache/kafka-site/pull/577#issuecomment-1884677270

   > You have to admit this PR raised quite a few red flags!
   > 
   > First it's directly copied from Camel without replacing mentions to Kafka. 
Then within minutes it's approved by 2 other ASF members clearly without 
looking at the diff. Finally it's adding your company as the sole provider for 
commercial support.
   > 
   > A more open approach would have been to reach out the Kafka community on 
the dev or users lists and discuss a nice way to build such a page. I tend to 
agree that a page listing commercial offerings is helpful but I'm sure you 
understand why we can't merge the PR as is.
   
   Hi @mimaison,
   
   I admitted that I made a mistake about copy/paste from Camel website and I 
fixed it. About adding my company, as I explained in other comments, it's just 
a starting point to list companies. I cannot add the others for trademark 
purpose because I'm not owning them but everybody can add their company as 
explain in the text or I'm open to do it if people ask me in this PR.
   
   About the approach, I already start a thread on the mailing list about this 
topic before doing a proposal, here the link to thread:
   https://lists.apache.org/thread/kkox33rhtjcdr5zztq3lzj7c5s7k9wsr
   
   Sorry, it was last year, so may be I would have to resend it again?


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Re: [PR] Add get support page [kafka-site]

2024-01-10 Thread via GitHub


mimaison commented on PR #577:
URL: https://github.com/apache/kafka-site/pull/577#issuecomment-1884671597

   As I said, I think a page listing commercial offerings is useful. I was just 
commenting on the approach you took.
   
   I don't think we necessarily need a committer to build this page (obviously 
a committer will have to review the PR before merging). If you want you can 
start the discussion.


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Re: [PR] Add get support page [kafka-site]

2024-01-10 Thread via GitHub


rmannibucau commented on PR #577:
URL: https://github.com/apache/kafka-site/pull/577#issuecomment-1884622256

   @mimaison well I wouldn't say red flags but I fully understand the surprise 
on kafka side if it was never discussed on/offline first - we had the same 
debate on TomEE side years ago.
   But it is not uncommon at apache to have such a page, even with a single 
company or even with no company and request for companies:
   
   * https://hop.apache.org/community/commercial/ (0)
   * https://struts.apache.org/commercial-support.html (1)
   * https://directory.apache.org/commercial-support.html (1)
   * https://superset.apache.org/community (direct link to the company behind - 
this one is more surprising for me since instead of encouraging the 
"registration" of vendors it hides it somehow but guess it is a small 
clumsiness)
   * https://tomee.apache.org/commercial-support.html (2)
   * https://plc4x.apache.org/users/commercial-support.html (2)
   * https://camel.apache.org/community/support/
   * https://openmeetings.apache.org/commercial-support.html
   * https://guacamole.apache.org/support/
   * 
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/HADOOP2/Distributions+and+Commercial+Support
   * https://activemq.apache.org/support
   * https://netbeans.apache.org/front/main/help/commercial-support/
   * https://royale.apache.org/royale-commercial-support/
   * (way more but guess you got the idea)
   
   To give an example of the "rationale behind" please have a look to 
https://github.com/apache/superset/issues/8852 issue.
   
   An important point to take into consideration is that several products - and 
I think Kafka is exactly there - wouldn't live without external support (it is 
true for most broker or server) so it is guaranteeing its community and helping 
its user base to do this kind of page - and trust me, ~5 years ago I didn't 
understand that as well as today so I say it very humbly.
   
   So overall, due to kafka adoption it can only be good to get such a page 
IMHO but I agree that if you feel it is not straight forward and it must be 
discussed more deeply cause Kafka wants to write its own content, a thread 
sounds the way to move it forward and a core commiter should then probably take 
the leadership on that "doc" track and this pr marked as pending while this 
work is done.


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Re: [PR] Add get support page [kafka-site]

2024-01-10 Thread via GitHub


mimaison commented on PR #577:
URL: https://github.com/apache/kafka-site/pull/577#issuecomment-1884592204

   You have to admit this PR raised quite a few red flags!
   
   First it's directly copied from Camel without replacing mentions to Kafka. 
Then within minutes it's approved by 2 other ASF members clearly without 
looking at the diff. Finally it's adding your company as the sole provider for 
commercial support.
   
   A more open approach would have been to reach out the Kafka community on the 
dev or users lists and discuss a nice way to build such a page. I tend to agree 
that a page listing commercial offerings is helpful but I'm sure you understand 
why we can't merge the PR as is.
   


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Re: [PR] Add get support page [kafka-site]

2024-01-10 Thread via GitHub


fpapon commented on PR #577:
URL: https://github.com/apache/kafka-site/pull/577#issuecomment-1884502000

   > @fpapon , thanks for the PR. Could you explain the motivation that why we 
should add `Get Support` page? Why is the `Contact Us` page not enough? Thanks.
   
   - This page explain more how to get supported. @ableegoldman didn't said 
that it's weird to have commercial support list, but it's weird to have only 
one company listed, that I'm agree and we can ask on the mailing list if some 
other company want to be listed.
   
   - Agree for the vendor neutral slack channel, that's why I proposed to list 
the existing official ASF Kafka slack channel. About StackOverFlow, as there is 
a lot of content on that channel, it can be used as a FAQ for the user but 
users can also ask on the mailing list. I think users can search content more 
easily on StackOverFlow rather than on the mailing list thread history.
   


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Re: [PR] Add get support page [kafka-site]

2024-01-10 Thread via GitHub


fpapon commented on PR #577:
URL: https://github.com/apache/kafka-site/pull/577#issuecomment-1884372269

   @showuon There is a lot of ASF projects that provide a page with community 
support, it help the adoption and the growth of the project because the users 
need commercial support for production (SLAs), consulting or training. So if 
some company are listed in the project website it can be very useful for them 
to find support. You can check Camel, ActiveMQ, Karaf websites for example.


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Re: [PR] Add get support page [kafka-site]

2024-01-10 Thread via GitHub


rmannibucau commented on code in PR #577:
URL: https://github.com/apache/kafka-site/pull/577#discussion_r1447016147


##
support.html:
##
@@ -0,0 +1,54 @@
+
+
+
+
+   
+   
+   Support
+   Community support
+
+   
+   This is an open source project so the amount of time 
community members have available to help resolve your issue
+   is often limited as help is provided on a volunteer 
basis from
+   https://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works/#hats; 
target="_blank">individuals.
+   However, it is free, and you are often able to discuss 
issues with the developers who actually wrote the code
+   you are running.
+   
+   
+   If you want community support then please https://kafka.apache.org/contact;>contact us.
+   If you’re fairly certain you’re hitting a bug please 
report it via one of our
+   https://kafka.apache.org/contributing;>issue 
trackers. Be sure to review
+   these pages carefully as they contain tips and tricks 
about working with Apache communities in general and
+   Apache Kafka in particular.
+   
+
+   Commercial support
+   
+   Apache Kafka is a widely used project. As such, several 
companies have built products and services around Kafka.
+   This page is dedicated to providing descriptions of 
those offerings and links to more information.
+   Companies are definitely encouraged to update this page 
directly or send a mail to the Kafka PMC with a description
+   of your offerings, and we can update the page. The 
products and services listed on this page are provided for
+   information use only to our users. The Kafka PMC does 
not endorse or recommend any of the products or services
+   on this page. See below for information about what is 
appropriate to add to the page.
+   
+
+   
+   https://www.yupiik.com; 
target="_blank">Yupiik contributes and commits to many Apache projects. 
Provides consulting, training and support

Review Comment:
   For one rational (coming from other ASF projects): asking for help always 
require some sort of registration and when a company just want support (often 
SLA related or expertise related) this is perceived as negative so several ASF 
projects (most of the ones able to run as standalone, ie not libs) started to 
add such a page or at least point to a page enabling to find out the info.
   
   hope it helps



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Re: [PR] Add get support page [kafka-site]

2024-01-09 Thread via GitHub


showuon commented on code in PR #577:
URL: https://github.com/apache/kafka-site/pull/577#discussion_r1446975450


##
support.html:
##
@@ -0,0 +1,54 @@
+
+
+
+
+   
+   
+   Support
+   Community support
+
+   
+   This is an open source project so the amount of time 
community members have available to help resolve your issue
+   is often limited as help is provided on a volunteer 
basis from
+   https://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works/#hats; 
target="_blank">individuals.
+   However, it is free, and you are often able to discuss 
issues with the developers who actually wrote the code
+   you are running.
+   
+   
+   If you want community support then please https://kafka.apache.org/contact;>contact us.

Review Comment:
   I know @ableegoldman is trying to list all helpful resources here, but I 
don't think adding `Confluent Community Slack` or `StackOverflow` is 
appropriate here. `Confluent Community Slack` is run by Confluent, so it is not 
a neutral recourse. About the `StackOverflow`, I think if we list 
`StackOverflow` here, does that imply `us...@apache.kafka.org` or 
`d...@apache.kafka.org` are not useful? I think, as a community, we should 
recommend users to ask/answer questions in the community, instead of in the 3rd 
party site. 



##
support.html:
##
@@ -0,0 +1,54 @@
+
+
+
+
+   
+   
+   Support
+   Community support
+
+   
+   This is an open source project so the amount of time 
community members have available to help resolve your issue
+   is often limited as help is provided on a volunteer 
basis from
+   https://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works/#hats; 
target="_blank">individuals.
+   However, it is free, and you are often able to discuss 
issues with the developers who actually wrote the code
+   you are running.
+   
+   
+   If you want community support then please https://kafka.apache.org/contact;>contact us.
+   If you’re fairly certain you’re hitting a bug please 
report it via one of our
+   https://kafka.apache.org/contributing;>issue 
trackers. Be sure to review
+   these pages carefully as they contain tips and tricks 
about working with Apache communities in general and
+   Apache Kafka in particular.
+   
+
+   Commercial support
+   
+   Apache Kafka is a widely used project. As such, several 
companies have built products and services around Kafka.
+   This page is dedicated to providing descriptions of 
those offerings and links to more information.
+   Companies are definitely encouraged to update this page 
directly or send a mail to the Kafka PMC with a description
+   of your offerings, and we can update the page. The 
products and services listed on this page are provided for
+   information use only to our users. The Kafka PMC does 
not endorse or recommend any of the products or services
+   on this page. See below for information about what is 
appropriate to add to the page.
+   
+
+   
+   https://www.yupiik.com; 
target="_blank">Yupiik contributes and commits to many Apache projects. 
Provides consulting, training and support

Review Comment:
   I think you should start a discussion thread to ask if we "should" have the 
"Commercial support" section first. I agree with @ableegoldman that it's weird 
the Apache Kafka site contains any commercial content.



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Re: [PR] Add get support page [kafka-site]

2024-01-09 Thread via GitHub


fpapon commented on code in PR #577:
URL: https://github.com/apache/kafka-site/pull/577#discussion_r1446950508


##
support.html:
##
@@ -0,0 +1,54 @@
+
+
+
+
+   
+   
+   Support
+   Community support
+
+   
+   This is an open source project so the amount of time 
community members have available to help resolve your issue
+   is often limited as help is provided on a volunteer 
basis from
+   https://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works/#hats; 
target="_blank">individuals.
+   However, it is free, and you are often able to discuss 
issues with the developers who actually wrote the code
+   you are running.
+   
+   
+   If you want community support then please https://kafka.apache.org/contact;>contact us.
+   If you’re fairly certain you’re hitting a bug please 
report it via one of our
+   https://kafka.apache.org/contributing;>issue 
trackers. Be sure to review
+   these pages carefully as they contain tips and tricks 
about working with Apache communities in general and
+   Apache Kafka in particular.
+   
+
+   Commercial support
+   
+   Apache Kafka is a widely used project. As such, several 
companies have built products and services around Kafka.
+   This page is dedicated to providing descriptions of 
those offerings and links to more information.
+   Companies are definitely encouraged to update this page 
directly or send a mail to the Kafka PMC with a description
+   of your offerings, and we can update the page. The 
products and services listed on this page are provided for
+   information use only to our users. The Kafka PMC does 
not endorse or recommend any of the products or services
+   on this page. See below for information about what is 
appropriate to add to the page.
+   
+
+   
+   https://www.yupiik.com; 
target="_blank">Yupiik contributes and commits to many Apache projects. 
Provides consulting, training and support

Review Comment:
   @ableegoldman do you think we can start a thread on the mailing list to ask 
which company want to be add in the commercial list support?



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Re: [PR] Add get support page [kafka-site]

2024-01-09 Thread via GitHub


fpapon commented on code in PR #577:
URL: https://github.com/apache/kafka-site/pull/577#discussion_r1446949226


##
support.html:
##
@@ -0,0 +1,54 @@
+
+
+
+
+   
+   
+   Support
+   Community support
+
+   
+   This is an open source project so the amount of time 
community members have available to help resolve your issue
+   is often limited as help is provided on a volunteer 
basis from
+   https://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works/#hats; 
target="_blank">individuals.
+   However, it is free, and you are often able to discuss 
issues with the developers who actually wrote the code
+   you are running.
+   
+   
+   If you want community support then please https://kafka.apache.org/contact;>contact us.
+   If you’re fairly certain you’re hitting a bug please 
report it via one of our
+   https://kafka.apache.org/contributing;>issue 
trackers. Be sure to review
+   these pages carefully as they contain tips and tricks 
about working with Apache communities in general and
+   Apache Kafka in particular.
+   
+
+   Commercial support
+   
+   Apache Kafka is a widely used project. As such, several 
companies have built products and services around Kafka.
+   This page is dedicated to providing descriptions of 
those offerings and links to more information.
+   Companies are definitely encouraged to update this page 
directly or send a mail to the Kafka PMC with a description
+   of your offerings, and we can update the page. The 
products and services listed on this page are provided for
+   information use only to our users. The Kafka PMC does 
not endorse or recommend any of the products or services
+   on this page. See below for information about what is 
appropriate to add to the page.
+   
+
+   
+   https://www.yupiik.com; 
target="_blank">Yupiik contributes and commits to many Apache projects. 
Provides consulting, training and support

Review Comment:
   I added the first company because I don't know the other and like it's 
mention in the text, company are encouraged to add themselves by providing a 
PR. At the beginning we need to start with one company but if people want to 
add other companies in this PR with comments, I can add them to start with more 
than one before merging.



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Re: [PR] Add get support page [kafka-site]

2024-01-09 Thread via GitHub


fpapon commented on code in PR #577:
URL: https://github.com/apache/kafka-site/pull/577#discussion_r1446947444


##
support.html:
##
@@ -0,0 +1,54 @@
+
+
+
+
+   
+   
+   Support
+   Community support
+
+   
+   This is an open source project so the amount of time 
community members have available to help resolve your issue
+   is often limited as help is provided on a volunteer 
basis from
+   https://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works/#hats; 
target="_blank">individuals.
+   However, it is free, and you are often able to discuss 
issues with the developers who actually wrote the code
+   you are running.
+   
+   
+   If you want community support then please https://kafka.apache.org/contact;>contact us.
+   If you’re fairly certain you’re hitting a bug please 
report it via one of our
+   https://kafka.apache.org/contributing;>issue 
trackers. Be sure to review

Review Comment:
   Ok, I will update to be more specific about the issue tracker.



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Re: [PR] Add get support page [kafka-site]

2024-01-09 Thread via GitHub


fpapon commented on code in PR #577:
URL: https://github.com/apache/kafka-site/pull/577#discussion_r1446946324


##
support.html:
##
@@ -0,0 +1,54 @@
+
+
+
+
+   
+   
+   Support
+   Community support
+
+   
+   This is an open source project so the amount of time 
community members have available to help resolve your issue
+   is often limited as help is provided on a volunteer 
basis from
+   https://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works/#hats; 
target="_blank">individuals.
+   However, it is free, and you are often able to discuss 
issues with the developers who actually wrote the code
+   you are running.
+   
+   
+   If you want community support then please https://kafka.apache.org/contact;>contact us.

Review Comment:
   There is an existing ASF Slack and a Kafka channel so why not using it?



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Re: [PR] Add get support page [kafka-site]

2024-01-09 Thread via GitHub


fpapon commented on code in PR #577:
URL: https://github.com/apache/kafka-site/pull/577#discussion_r1446946944


##
support.html:
##
@@ -0,0 +1,54 @@
+
+
+
+
+   
+   
+   Support
+   Community support
+
+   
+   This is an open source project so the amount of time 
community members have available to help resolve your issue
+   is often limited as help is provided on a volunteer 
basis from
+   https://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works/#hats; 
target="_blank">individuals.
+   However, it is free, and you are often able to discuss 
issues with the developers who actually wrote the code
+   you are running.
+   
+   
+   If you want community support then please https://kafka.apache.org/contact;>contact us.

Review Comment:
   I will mention and add a link to StackOverFlow.



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Re: [PR] Add get support page [kafka-site]

2024-01-09 Thread via GitHub


rmannibucau commented on code in PR #577:
URL: https://github.com/apache/kafka-site/pull/577#discussion_r1446679772


##
support.html:
##
@@ -0,0 +1,54 @@
+
+
+
+
+   
+   
+   Support
+   Community support
+
+   
+   This is an open source project so the amount of time 
community members have available to help resolve your issue
+   is often limited as help is provided on a volunteer 
basis from
+   https://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works/#hats; 
target="_blank">individuals.
+   However, it is free, and you are often able to discuss 
issues with the developers who actually wrote the code
+   you are running.
+   
+   
+   If you want community support then please https://kafka.apache.org/contact;>contact us.
+   If you’re fairly certain you’re hitting a bug please 
report it via one of our
+   https://kafka.apache.org/contributing;>issue 
trackers. Be sure to review
+   these pages carefully as they contain tips and tricks 
about working with Apache communities in general and
+   Apache Kafka in particular.
+   
+
+   Commercial support
+   
+   Apache Kafka is a widely used project. As such, several 
companies have built products and services around Kafka.
+   This page is dedicated to providing descriptions of 
those offerings and links to more information.
+   Companies are definitely encouraged to update this page 
directly or send a mail to the Kafka PMC with a description
+   of your offerings, and we can update the page. The 
products and services listed on this page are provided for
+   information use only to our users. The Kafka PMC does 
not endorse or recommend any of the products or services
+   on this page. See below for information about what is 
appropriate to add to the page.
+   
+
+   
+   https://www.yupiik.com; 
target="_blank">Yupiik contributes and commits to many Apache projects. 
Provides consulting, training and support

Review Comment:
   An alternative to reaching out (which feels like the opposite) is to add an 
edit link (github) and encourage people to pr to add themselves.
   Will make it more open and less closed to a single company so cna be a trade 
off maybe.
   Wdyt?



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Re: [PR] Add get support page [kafka-site]

2024-01-09 Thread via GitHub


ableegoldman commented on code in PR #577:
URL: https://github.com/apache/kafka-site/pull/577#discussion_r1446628388


##
support.html:
##
@@ -0,0 +1,54 @@
+
+
+
+
+   
+   
+   Support
+   Community support
+
+   
+   This is an open source project so the amount of time 
community members have available to help resolve your issue
+   is often limited as help is provided on a volunteer 
basis from
+   https://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works/#hats; 
target="_blank">individuals.
+   However, it is free, and you are often able to discuss 
issues with the developers who actually wrote the code
+   you are running.
+   
+   
+   If you want community support then please https://kafka.apache.org/contact;>contact us.

Review Comment:
   It might be good to be a bit more specific here. For example most support 
related questions should probably go to the `us...@apache.kafka.org` mailing 
list specifically



##
support.html:
##
@@ -0,0 +1,54 @@
+
+
+
+
+   
+   
+   Support
+   Community support
+
+   
+   This is an open source project so the amount of time 
community members have available to help resolve your issue
+   is often limited as help is provided on a volunteer 
basis from
+   https://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works/#hats; 
target="_blank">individuals.
+   However, it is free, and you are often able to discuss 
issues with the developers who actually wrote the code
+   you are running.
+   
+   
+   If you want community support then please https://kafka.apache.org/contact;>contact us.

Review Comment:
   Another common source of help is the Confluent Community Slack. Yes, it's 
run by Confluent, but it's free and is fairly active with people, both users 
and devs, from across a wide range of companies. Not sure if we'd need to get 
permission to include that or not.
   
   I also see people ask and get good answers on StackOverflow, though 
generally speaking the users mailing list and Confluent Community Slack are the 
most active in my experience



##
support.html:
##
@@ -0,0 +1,54 @@
+
+
+
+
+   
+   
+   Support
+   Community support
+
+   
+   This is an open source project so the amount of time 
community members have available to help resolve your issue
+   is often limited as help is provided on a volunteer 
basis from
+   https://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works/#hats; 
target="_blank">individuals.
+   However, it is free, and you are often able to discuss 
issues with the developers who actually wrote the code
+   you are running.
+   
+   
+   If you want community support then please https://kafka.apache.org/contact;>contact us.
+   If you’re fairly certain you’re hitting a bug please 
report it via one of our
+   https://kafka.apache.org/contributing;>issue 
trackers. Be sure to review

Review Comment:
   I feel like this should link to JIRA directly, and also mention it by name 
instead of saying "one of our issue trackers" -- we really only have the one. 
The "contributing" link would be more appropriate for the following sentence, 
which does indeed appear to be about contributing rather than reporting issues 
or "community support". Frankly this section is kind of all over the place but 
I think it's fine as long as we hit on the important notes -- like where to 
report issues



##
support.html:
##
@@ -0,0 +1,54 @@
+
+
+
+
+   
+   
+   Support
+   Community support
+
+   
+   This is an open source project so the amount of time 
community members have available to help resolve your issue
+   is often limited as help is provided on a volunteer 
basis from
+   https://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works/#hats; 
target="_blank">individuals.
+   However, it is free, and you are often able to discuss 
issues with the developers who actually wrote the code
+   you are running.
+   
+   
+   If you want community support then please https://kafka.apache.org/contact;>contact us.
+   If you’re fairly certain you’re hitting a bug please 
report it via one of our
+   https://kafka.apache.org/contributing;>issue 
trackers. Be sure to review
+   these pages carefully as 

Re: [PR] Add get support page [kafka-site]

2024-01-09 Thread via GitHub


fpapon commented on PR #577:
URL: https://github.com/apache/kafka-site/pull/577#issuecomment-1883454200

   @C0urante good catch! Sorry for the copy/paste error, it's ok now.


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Re: [PR] Add get support page [kafka-site]

2024-01-09 Thread via GitHub


rmannibucau commented on PR #577:
URL: https://github.com/apache/kafka-site/pull/577#issuecomment-1883451784

   @C0urante yes, this is a small typo @fpapon is aware of but the proposal 
follows ASF guidelines and the fix is trivial (before or after the merge) so a 
clear plus for Kafka community from the last year requests I saw, but you are 
right, we should have highlighted it more.


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Re: [PR] Add get support page [kafka-site]

2024-01-09 Thread via GitHub


jbonofre commented on code in PR #577:
URL: https://github.com/apache/kafka-site/pull/577#discussion_r1446363532


##
support.html:
##
@@ -0,0 +1,54 @@
+
+
+
+
+   
+   
+   Support
+   Community support
+
+   
+   This is an open source project so the amount of time 
community members have available to help resolve your issue
+   is often limited as help is provided on a volunteer 
basis from
+   https://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works/#hats; 
target="_blank">individuals.
+   However, it is free, and you are often able to discuss 
issues with the developers who actually wrote the code
+   you are running.
+   
+   
+   If you want community support then please https://kafka.apache.org/contact;>contact us.
+   If you’re fairly certain you’re hitting a bug please 
report it via one of our
+   https://kafka.apache.org/contributing;>issue 
trackers. Be sure to review
+   these pages carefully as they contain tips and tricks 
about working with Apache communities in general and
+   Apache Kafka in particular.
+   
+
+   Commercial support
+   
+   Apache Camel is a widely used project. As such, several 
companies have built products and services around Camel.

Review Comment:
   It should be Kafka here.



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Re: [PR] Add get support page [kafka-site]

2024-01-09 Thread via GitHub


C0urante commented on code in PR #577:
URL: https://github.com/apache/kafka-site/pull/577#discussion_r1446362361


##
support.html:
##
@@ -0,0 +1,54 @@
+
+
+
+
+   
+   
+   Support
+   Community support
+
+   
+   This is an open source project so the amount of time 
community members have available to help resolve your issue
+   is often limited as help is provided on a volunteer 
basis from
+   https://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works/#hats; 
target="_blank">individuals.
+   However, it is free, and you are often able to discuss 
issues with the developers who actually wrote the code
+   you are running.
+   
+   
+   If you want community support then please https://kafka.apache.org/contact;>contact us.
+   If you’re fairly certain you’re hitting a bug please 
report it via one of our
+   https://kafka.apache.org/contributing;>issue 
trackers. Be sure to review
+   these pages carefully as they contain tips and tricks 
about working with Apache communities in general and
+   Apache Kafka in particular.
+   
+
+   Commercial support
+   
+   Apache Camel is a widely used project. As such, several 
companies have built products and services around Camel.
+   This page is dedicated to providing descriptions of 
those offerings and links to more information.
+   Companies are definitely encouraged to update this page 
directly or send a mail to the Camel PMC with a description
+   of your offerings, and we can update the page. The 
products and services listed on this page are provided for
+   information use only to our users. The Camel PMC does 
not endorse or recommend any of the products or services
+   on this page. See below for information about what is 
appropriate to add to the page.

Review Comment:
   Wrong project.



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Re: [PR] Add get support page [kafka-site]

2024-01-09 Thread via GitHub


jbonofre commented on PR #577:
URL: https://github.com/apache/kafka-site/pull/577#issuecomment-1883435388

   @C0urante yup it's a copy paste from Camel. I already asked @fpapon to 
update the page to mention Kafka instead of Camel.


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Re: [PR] Add get support page [kafka-site]

2024-01-09 Thread via GitHub


C0urante commented on PR #577:
URL: https://github.com/apache/kafka-site/pull/577#issuecomment-1883431881

   @jbonofre @rmannibucau did you actually review this PR? Part of it is 
copy+pasted with no changes from the [Apache Camel 
docs](https://github.com/apache/camel/blob/74b6e1994a33fe54c3f5a5ad2acc5849148dbb16/docs/user-manual/modules/ROOT/pages/commercial-camel-offerings.adoc#commercial-camel-offerings).
 I would hope that anyone who actually looked at the diff would have spotted 
that.


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