Re: [opencontrail-dev] Opinion Please: Help Choose OpenContrail's New Name

[Randy Bias]

Folks,


I’m afraid it’s not that easy.  The situation with Xen and Xen 
Project is actually quite different.

First, in this case, Citrix chose to retain their Xen trademark 
(like Juniper), while providing a free trademark license for all vendors 
providing Xen products (unlike Juniper).  Second, LF trademarked “Xen Project” 
as a way to trademark the new project itself as it joined.  This is a weak 
trademark as any trademark lawyer will tell you. The LF and the Xen Project are 
probably at the mercy of Citrix if Citrix suddenly decided to enforce their 
trademark against them.  Although since Citrix is freely licensing “Xen” 
standalone, their usage might be included.  I don’t know.  IANAL.

I can tell you that the LF was clear that while some exceptions had 
been made earlier in their life span, that they had now become reasonably good 
at this process and knew that in order to avoid issues they needed a clean 
trademark for projects.  They also gave numerous examples of recent projects 
that needed to rebrand.

I am happy to ask the LF legal team to weigh in on this thread if 
it helps.

OpenKontrail will not work because it is too similar to 
OpenContrail.  Trademarks have to be sufficiently differentiated and simple 
consonant/vowel replacements, pluralization, and so on, don’t do it.  In fact, 
Tesserax, as was pointed out in another thread, rides close to the edge because 
it touches on Tesseract, Tesseracts, Tesserack, Tesserae, and so on.  We 
potentially get away with it only because the other usages don’t appear to 
relate to networking, SDN, orchestration, or cloud.  The closest is Tesserack, 
although our legal team has concerns there.

The easy permutations and discussions with legal counsel were 
handled a couple of months ago.  Only a clean rebranding will work at this 
point.

I will ask Mike Dolan of the LF to weigh in here.


Best,



--Randy

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From: Masood Ul Amin <masood.a...@aricent.com>
Date: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 at 11:43 PM
To: Aniket Daptari <aniket.contr...@gmail.com>, Randy Bias <rb...@juniper.net>
Cc: "annou...@lists.opencontrail.org" <annou...@lists.opencontrail.org>, 
"dev@lists.opencontrail.org" <dev@lists.opencontrail.org>
Subject: RE: [opencontrail-dev] Opinion Please: Help Choose OpenContrail's New 
Name

Thank you Aniket,
OpenKontrail sounds great.

Regards,
Masood


From: Dev [mailto:dev-boun...@lists.opencontrail.org] On Behalf Of Aniket 
Daptari
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 11:40 PM
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Cc: annou...@lists.opencontrail.org; dev@lists.opencontrail.org
Subject: Re: [opencontrail-dev] Opinion Please: Help Choose OpenContrail's New 
Name

And therefore, with that example (Xen v/s Xen Project) in front of us, if the 
LF project can absolutely NOT be named OpenContrail or "OpenContrail Project", 
then why not call it "OpenKontrail Project" or something really close to the 
original name?

Thanks,
Aniket


On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 11:38 PM, Aniket Daptari 
<aniket.contr...@gmail.com<mailto:aniket.contr...@gmail.com>> wrote:
FWIW, my 2 cents on this topic.

There is some precedent with the LF adding differentiation in the trademark 
owned by the LF by adding a simple suffix or prefix.
Let's take the example of "Xen" v/s "Xen Project".

The trademark "Xen" is owned by 
Citrix<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.citrix.com_content_dam_citrix_en-5Fus_documents_about_citrix-2Dtrademark-2Dlist.pdf=DwMGaQ=HAkYuh63rsuhr6Scbfh0UjBXeMK-ndb3voDTXcWzoCI=cvig2YGjcAqtN3D01QkDbCz-8RUttsFy-iNDV0QCxFA=vEpdMPeFFI4BMVunxfki4mojNfMyfWxj_qldB59PUEA=lC7YCjjFCaxHfiAEJYf9UVkvYooQwbjhv2L6iRTw5MA=>
 and Citrix uses the Xen brand for proprietary products even unrelated to Xen 
(XenApp, XenDesktop, etc).

When the Xen 
Project<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.xenproject.org_=DwMGaQ=HAkYuh63rsuhr6Scbfh0UjBXeMK-ndb3voDTXcWzoCI=cvig2YGjcAqtN3D01QkDbCz-8RUttsFy-iNDV0QCxFA=vEpdMPeFFI4BMVunxfki4mojNfMyfWxj_qldB59PUEA=CZBKRD0_kRVifG0zZoA5oAiRndnOEJsUEvStqGePTCc=>
 was moved under the auspices of the LF, a new trademark "Xen Project" was 
chosen to differentiate the LF project from Citrix's 
products<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.xenproject.org_trademark-2Dpolicy.html=DwMGaQ=HAkYuh63rsuhr6Scbfh0UjBXeMK-ndb3voDTXcWzoCI=cvig2YGjcAqtN3D01QkDbCz-8RUttsFy-iNDV0QCxFA=vEpdMPeFFI4BMVunxfki4mojNfMyfWxj_qldB59PUEA=FkJK5FAcadu5a3KoeWn1NmYKHN_hKRVw2Psgdt_L88E=>.

What I'm guessing from the discussion here is that the community's

Re: [opencontrail-dev] [Announce] Opinion Please: Help Choose OpenContrail's New Name

[Randy Bias]

Hi,


Thanks for the input.  Just a reminder that I gave y’all a heads up 
on this in early December and we discussed it in detail at the governance 
summit at Kubecon as well.  There should be zero surprised to anyone that we 
can’t proceed with OpenContrail.

As a reminder here is the detailed email where I explained how we 
got here:


http://lists.opencontrail.org/pipermail/dev_lists.opencontrail.org/2017-December/003713.html

I don’t think there is really anything to add.

Meanwhile, we’ve been open to any suggestions on name, but the 
process is extremely challenging as we need all of the following:


1.Must be trademark-able

2.Must be able to get a domain name for it

3.Ideally it’s “cool”

4.Get the name change done before or quickly after joining LFN

On #1, it’s highly challenging.  Pick any literal term related to 
“fabrics”, “networks”, “orchestration”, “cloud” and so on and large swaths of 
potential names have been trademarked.  If not in the USA then in another 
country.

The reality of the situation is that without more time and 
resources we are going to have difficulty finding the perfect new name.  I wish 
it was not so.  I wish I had been able to convince Juniper management to give 
over Contrail/OpenContrail regardless of the ramifications to our business.

It is what it is.  Serious suggestions on new names will be taken 
even at this late date but time is very short so make sure you had your legal 
team do quick search on it (takes 24-ish hours) and you have identified a 
domain we can use.



Thank you,



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From: Dev  on behalf of Robert Raszuk 

Date: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 at 2:32 AM
To: "ext-edgar.mag...@workday.com" 
Cc: "dev@lists.opencontrail.org" , 
"annou...@lists.opencontrail.org" 
Subject: Re: [opencontrail-dev] [Announce] Opinion Please: Help Choose 
OpenContrail's New Name

Hi Edgar,


> In my opinion, these three names sound awful.

Completely agree ! Terrible. Why not something very easy like CFabric ? (Oh no 
it starts with bad letter "c" ;-).

>  Maybe we could negotiate with Juniper ...


Exactly proposed the same few months back (when this all started to surface). 
Got back bunch of unicasts from J that this is impossible to negotiate - the 
internal decision has been made.


I actually still do not understand the real reason: LF/Community project name 
is: OpenContrail. Juniper commercial name is: Contrail. Completely different 
words/names. What's wrong with keeping it as it was named day one ?


Otherwise looking at the three alternatives provided it does look like someone 
really hard is trying to kill the community version :(


Cheers,
R.


On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 4:48 AM, Edgar Magana 
> wrote:
Community,

I know I have been disengaged lately from the project and I probably do not 
deserve a voice here. However, I would like to ask you for your forgiveness if 
I do say something that is out of place, wrong or even offensive, it is not my 
intention.

In my opinion, these three names sound awful. I think we should do better 
marketing about it. It feels that we are going to lose a lot of good branding 
with OpenContrail. Maybe going under Linux Foundation is not the best option 
for this open-source project. I know a lot of people have invested a lot of 
effort on making this project part of the LF but again, just feel that we are 
going to lose a lot. Maybe we could negotiate with Juniper, they were the ones 
deciding open-source it, maybe they are willing to change the name of the 
enterprise version.

These are just my thoughts.

Thanks for reading and understanding my opinion.

Edgar

From: Announce 
>
 on behalf of Gregory Elkinbard 
>
Date: Monday, February 12, 2018 at 4:52 PM
To: "dev@lists.opencontrail.org" 
>, 
"annou...@lists.opencontrail.org" 
>
Subject: [Announce] Opinion Please: Help Choose OpenContrail's New Name

As many of you already know, we are required to change the name of the project 
as part of moving to the LF-N.

We've started the ball rolling by coming up with a slate of names that we've 
preliminarily vetted with trademark 

Re: [opencontrail-dev] Opinion Please: Help Choose OpenContrail's New Name

[Randy Bias]

If trademarks were solely about finding something that no one else is using it 
would make what is already a tremendously difficult exercise basically 
impossible.  We would all be making up nonsense words in order to get something 
no one else used.



Trademarks infringement is defined as follows (NOLO):



“Trademark infringement is the unauthorized use of a trademark or service mark 
(or a substantially similar mark) on competing or related goods and services. 
The success of a lawsuit to stop the infringement turns on whether the 
defendant's use causes a likelihood of confusion in the average consumer.”



The key here is that software-defined-networking (SDN) is sufficiently 
different from OCR that there should be little or no confusion.



Is it perfect?  No.  Was it flagged as a concern by legal?  Yes, it was.  
Moderate risk.  It was also one of the better names that is not completely 
abstract.



Tesseract, while widely used, has a small committer base and no foundation 
behind it.  So legal risk is small.



So, to be clear, the same trademark term can be used multiple times as long as 
each usage is clearly distinct.



This is why we have 3 options.  If ultimately LF/LFN is unhappy with this 
option we will fall back to one of the others.





Best,









--Randy



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On 2/13/18, 2:39 AM, "Dev on behalf of Valentine Sinitsyn" 
 
wrote:



Hi Greg,



I'm concerned a bit about Tesserax being too close to Tesseract, which

is a well-known open-source OCR (and also a registered trademark owned

by someone else). Sounds very similar to Firebird (RDBMS) vs Firebird

(now Firefox) issue of the early 2000s.



My two cents,

Valentine



On 13.02.2018 05:52, Gregory Elkinbard wrote:

> As many of you already know, we are required to change the name of the

> project as part of moving to the LF-N.

>

> We've started the ball rolling by coming up with a slate of names that

> we've preliminarily vetted with trademark counsel. That process has

> yielded three names that we are reasonably confident can pass the more

> stringent trademark test that is presently underway. Now, we need your 
help.

>

> We've set up a Google Form poll to gather community input on which of

> these three names might be most preferred by a plurality of members.

> Please follow the link belowhttps://goo.gl/forms/dj7xIlsXowVez4wI2and

> complete the poll per the instructions there. Voting is open through

> 08:00 UTC on Thursday, February 15. We'll announce the winner next week,

> pending the aforementioned trademark counsel review.

>

> Thanks for participating!

>

>

>

>Greg

>

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Re: [opencontrail-dev] The Controversy around Renaming OpenContrail

[Randy Bias]

Whoa, whoa, whoa….

You’re conflating two things.  Codebase/product/branching and naming.  The name 
has absolutely nothing to do with the questions you brought up below.  Nothing. 
 There is absolutely no relationship whatsoever.

But to answer your questions, I think there is some serious confusion.  Juniper 
is moving to a model where it is a primary consumer of the XYZ (to maintain 
your convention) project.  The Contrail product will incorporate XYZ without 
modification.  That means there is no internal fork of the XYZ codebase.  All 
of our work will be done upstream in the XYZ codebase except for anything that 
is part of the proprietary code of the Contrail product.

More specifically to your five questions:


1.There will be NO internal Contrail branch; all features added in XYZ 
would wind up in the Contrail product codebase, with a caveat:

a.The commercial Contrail product may not officially support features 
upstreamed in XYZ and incorporated in the Contrail codebase until we have 
tested and validated them to our own satisfaction; our product testing and 
supported features for Contrail will be necessarily different from XYZ even if 
the code exists in Contrail

2.There is NO separate branch; all code will be contributed to XYZ for all 
core features and open source capabilities, with a caveat:

a.We are moving to an “open core” model where the Contrail product is 100% 
open source XYZ + proprietary UI and analytics codebase that is NOT open 
source, so …

b.ALL code that we crate that is not the UI or analytics is contributed to 
XYZ first and there is NO FORK OF THAT CODE BASE

3.The TSC drives the decisions on branching of the XYZ codebase

4.You are confused; Contrail is completely interoperable with XYZ because 
it *IS* XYZ with the exception of the UI and the analytics engine; similarly 
it’s our intention that XYZ deployments can be upgraded to Contrail and that 
Contrail deployments could be downgraded to XYZ; this is not achievable if we 
have a fork or use a different codebase

5.No, we’re going to work closely with the community to make XYZ awesome 
because we are entirely dependent on it

I’m not sure how this got confused.  Even today, with the 4.x line of code, 
Juniper is predominantly operating in the open and most of the codebase is 
modified in public.  There have been some wonky pieces of the build and release 
system that confused this, but that’s all being re-jiggered over the next month 
or so.

Juniper does not maintain a separate internal codebase for Contrail separate 
from XYZ/OpenContrail and has no intention to do so; *other* than the new GUI 
and analytics engine which are proprietary components to our product.



--Randy

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From: <rras...@gmail.com> on behalf of Robert Raszuk <rob...@raszuk.net>
Date: Tuesday, December 5, 2017 at 2:39 PM
To: Randy Bias <rb...@juniper.net>
Cc: "dev@lists.opencontrail.org" <dev@lists.opencontrail.org>
Subject: Re: [opencontrail-dev] The Controversy around Renaming OpenContrail

Hi Randy,

> To recap, we’re in the process of creating a vehicle that would allow 
> community-led governance
> of OpenContrail.  That process will result in some kind of entity, besides 
> Juniper, that owns the
> governance, codebase, and related trademarks.


Let's assume the new name for community OpenContrail is XYZ.

Can you answer few simple questions yet very critical to the future of both 
community XYZ & Juniper's Contrail:

* If community adds new features to XYZ is Juniper/Contrail engineering going 
to sync it into the internal Contrail branch such that *all* such features are 
part of it ?

* If Juniper engineering/PMs add a new feature or bug fix to Juniper's Contrail 
will it get also commited to community XYZ branch ?

* Who and how will decided what goes into what branch ?

* If there is no 100% of feature and bug fix party how are you going to make 
sure both XYZ & Contrail are even interoperable ?

* Is Juniper going to internally keep texting community XYZ version ?

Many thx,
Robert.

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Re: [opencontrail-dev] We need a new name

[Randy Bias]

Yeah. Not a big fan of natto. Even with an egg on it.


--Randy


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On Nov 30, 2017, at 14:21, Robert Raszuk 
> wrote:

Hey Nachi,

> BTW how about natto? this food seems like a network :P 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natt%C5%8D

Do you really want to discourage people from using it :)))  ?

Cheers,
R,

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Re: [opencontrail-dev] We need a new name

[Randy Bias]

I don’t think it is necessarily a requirement that it be trademarked.  Mostly 
we need it fairly unique.



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From: Dev  on behalf of Buddy Yaussy 

Date: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 at 1:35 PM
To: Gregory Elkinbard 
Cc: "dev@lists.opencontrail.org" 
Subject: Re: [opencontrail-dev] We need a new name

Don’t know if it would be able to be trademarked, without some kind of 
variation on the name, but I like:

Constable

As relating to directing traffic, etc.

Buddy Yaussy
Principal Member Technical Staff
AT Foundry

404.539.9559

On Nov 28, 2017, at 2:26 PM, Gregory Elkinbard 
> wrote:
Dear Community Members.
Linux Foundation is unable to accept OpenContrail as a trademark to the project 
as Juniper has Contrail product line.
We need to select a different name. Legal team has offered OpenVTrail. But I am 
hoping that folks can come up with something cooler.

Please send in your name proposals, by Dec 4th and lets discuss it during the 
summit.
Requirements for the name. Full name must be unique and not currently 
trademarked.
If the name is a composite, no part of the composite can be trademarked by 
another entity.

Linux foundation can temporarily accept us under the OpenContrail name, but 
will require a new name after a short transition period.

Thanks
Greg

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Re: [opencontrail-dev] We need a new name

[Randy Bias]

I respectfully request we avoid lawyering while discussing a new name.  Let’s 
focus on something that we love and are proud of.  Something that gets people 
excited about the project.

Hopefully we will wind up with 5-10 great choices.  At that point we’ll get 
some legal opinions and then shortlist and vote on it.


Thank you,


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From: <rras...@gmail.com> on behalf of Robert Raszuk <rob...@raszuk.net>
Date: Tuesday, November 28, 2017 at 2:06 PM
To: Gregory Elkinbard <gelkinb...@juniper.net>
Cc: Randy Bias <rb...@juniper.net>, Ankur Singla <asin...@juniper.net>, 
"dev@lists.opencontrail.org" <dev@lists.opencontrail.org>
Subject: Re: [opencontrail-dev] We need a new name

While I suggested DCV before to Greg offline the real question here is if you 
want this to be a new name independent from Juniper's parent or something which 
is still seen as maintaining this relation going forward.

If the latter how about simply: Kontrail ?

Legally different - product wise quite similar :)

Best,
R.


On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 10:48 PM, Gregory Elkinbard 
<gelkinb...@juniper.net<mailto:gelkinb...@juniper.net>> wrote:
Registered by Hitachi.
Unrelated to computers, but they can still sue.
Strimmor – which is contrail in Swedish is still open.

Greg



From: Dev 
<dev-boun...@lists.opencontrail.org<mailto:dev-boun...@lists.opencontrail.org>> 
on behalf of Randy Bias <rb...@juniper.net<mailto:rb...@juniper.net>>
Date: Tuesday, November 28, 2017 at 1:38 PM
To: Ankur Singla <asin...@juniper.net<mailto:asin...@juniper.net>>, 
"dev@lists.opencontrail.org<mailto:dev@lists.opencontrail.org>" 
<dev@lists.opencontrail.org<mailto:dev@lists.opencontrail.org>>

Subject: Re: [opencontrail-dev] We need a new name

This is pretty good.  +1



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From: Dev 
<dev-boun...@lists.opencontrail.org<mailto:dev-boun...@lists.opencontrail.org>> 
on behalf of Ankur Singla <asin...@juniper.net<mailto:asin...@juniper.net>>
Date: Tuesday, November 28, 2017 at 1:04 PM
To: "dev@lists.opencontrail.org<mailto:dev@lists.opencontrail.org>" 
<dev@lists.opencontrail.org<mailto:dev@lists.opencontrail.org>>
Subject: Re: [opencontrail-dev] We need a new name


I would nominate “Hikoki” - it means Contrail in Japanese.




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Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2017 20:22:36 +
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To: Foucault de Bonneval <fouca...@thaumiers.com<mailto:fouca...@thaumiers.com>>
Cc: "dev@lists.opencontrail.org<mailto:dev@lists.opencontrail.org>" 
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Personal names cannot be trademarked in general in USA, unless the name is 
unique and the person doing the trademarking owns the name or choses to assign 
his rights.

I will add One0six the list

Thanks
Greg


From: Foucault de Bonneval 
<fouca...@thaumiers.com<mailto:fouca...@thaumiers.com>>
Date: Tuesday, November 28, 2017 at 12:07 PM
To: Gregory Elkinbard <gelkinb...@juniper.net<mailto:gelkinb...@juniper.net>>
Cc: "dev@lists.opencontrail.org<mailto:dev@lists.opencontrail.org>" 
<dev@lists.opencontrail.org<mailto:dev@lists.opencontrail.org>>
Subject: Re: [opencontrail-dev] We need a new name

Hi there,

Got a couple of ideas :
- "Ankur" as a mark of respect to Contrail System's CEO
- "One0six" as the first version release deployed in production by a few of us

'Am no marketing guy as could have guessed from my proposals.


Enjoy,
Foucault

Le 28 nov. 2017 8:27 PM, "Gregory Elkinbard" 
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 a ?crit :
Dear Community Members.
Linux Founda

Re: [opencontrail-dev] We need a new name

[Randy Bias]

I’m going to recommend we avoid anything with “vapor” in it due to the possible 
negative connotations.


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From: Dev  on behalf of Saim Khan 

Reply-To: "saim.k...@colorado.edu" 
Date: Tuesday, November 28, 2017 at 12:46 PM
To: "ext-edgar.mag...@workday.com" 
Cc: "dev@lists.opencontrail.org" 
Subject: Re: [opencontrail-dev] We need a new name

Hi All,

How about Open-VaporTrail. Meaning remains the same.

On 28-Nov-2017 12:25 PM, "Edgar Magana" 
> wrote:
What about keeping the Open with something like “OpenVRouter”?
Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 28, 2017, at 12:16 PM, Rob Hirschfeld 
> wrote:
 from the school of less change is better... "ComRail"  
http://comrail.com/
 is actually available.

sort of like the Food Lion vs Food Town history, but may be enough.

On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 12:07 PM Foucault de Bonneval 
> wrote:
Hi there,

Got a couple of ideas :
- "Ankur" as a mark of respect to Contrail System's CEO
- "One0six" as the first version release deployed in production by a few of us

'Am no marketing guy as could have guessed from my proposals.


Enjoy,
Foucault

Le 28 nov. 2017 8:27 PM, "Gregory Elkinbard" 
> a écrit :
Dear Community Members.
Linux Foundation is unable to accept OpenContrail as a trademark to the project 
as Juniper has Contrail product line.
We need to select a different name. Legal team has offered OpenVTrail. But I am 
hoping that folks can come up with something cooler.

Please send in your name proposals, by Dec 4th and lets discuss it during the 
summit.
Requirements for the name. Full name must be unique and not currently 
trademarked.
If the name is a composite, no part of the composite can be trademarked by 
another entity.

Linux foundation can temporarily accept us under the OpenContrail name, but 
will require a new name after a short transition period.

Thanks
Greg


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[opencontrail-dev] SDxCentral OpenContrail Coverage

[Randy Bias]

For those who missed it, we got some great coverage on SDxCentral talking about 
the community reboot efforts:


https://www.sdxcentral.com/articles/news/juniper-wants-opencontrail-to-garner-more-of-the-spotlight/2017/08/

Best,


--Randy

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[opencontrail-dev] Keynote Deck

[Randy Bias]

https://www.dropbox.com/s/oe7sig70ew8jzah/OCGS%20Randy%20Bias%20keynote%20v3.pdf?dl=0



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Re: [opencontrail-dev] RSVP for OpenContrail Governance Summit and Announcing New Community Director

[Randy Bias]

There is no need, but it would be helpful to get a head count in advance.  
We’re trying to maximize community participation.


Regards,



--Randy 
 
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On 6/13/17, 10:24 PM, "Dev on behalf of Valentine Sinitsyn" 
<dev-boun...@lists.opencontrail.org on behalf of valentine.sinit...@gmail.com> 
wrote:

Hi,

On 14.06.2017 03:20, Chaitanya Kadiyala wrote:
> We’re excited to announce the first OpenContrail Summit that will take 
> place on Wednesday, June 28, 2017 at TekSystems in San Jose, CA.
> *_RSVP to Attend _* 
> 
<https://www.eventbrite.com/e/opencontrail-summit-2017-tickets-34984159563?ref=ebtn>**
There is no need to RSVP if I intend to participate via a conference 
call, right?

Anyway, I look forward to the Summit.

Thanks,
Valentine

> The purpose of this half-day event is to launch a community discussion 
> of the future for the OpenContrail project. Discussion items will include:
> 
>   * building a common vision for the project and community
>   * introduction of Juniper's community manager for OpenContrail
>   * project governance options
>   * stakeholder alignment
>   * project priorities, including driving greater adoption, making
> deployment and management easier, improving the upstream
> contribution process, and the project roadmap
>   * how we're doing relative to other SDN options
> 
> We will conclude by developing a timeline with roles/responsibilities 
> for next steps in both the project and the community. A project page has 
> been set up to collect agenda ideas and topics for discussion. Join the 
> conversation_here_ <http://tinyurl.com/opencontrail-founding>and 
> on_Twitter_ <http://www.twitter.com/OpenContrail>.
> For full details read the _blog post_ 
> 
<http://www.opencontrail.org/two-firsts-the-opencontrail-governance-summit-and-an-opencontrail-community-manager/>by
 
> Randy Bias
> Thanks
> --
> Chaitanya Kadiyala
> Product Marketing Manager,
> Cloud and Enterprise Portfolio,
> Juniper Networks, Inc.
> Email:_ckadiyala@juniper.net_ <mailto:ckadiy...@juniper.net>
> Ph: _862-234-5635_ 
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