Re: Fluido skin Maven site
Merci beaucoup Hervé, I raw also commits where you updated the fluido-skin, very appreciated! DOXIASITETOOLS-51 looks good to me, I will have yet another deep review later so I can provide feedbacks. Have a nice day, all the best! Simo http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/ http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/ http://twitter.com/simonetripodi http://www.99soft.org/ On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 12:07 AM, Hervé BOUTEMY herve.bout...@free.fr wrote: Ip updated DOXIASITETOOLS-51 please review and propose improvements Regards, Hervé Le Jeudi 27 Octobre 2011 16:03:40 Ivan Habunek a écrit : On 27 October 2011 15:56, Simone Tripodi simonetrip...@apache.org wrote: I'll update later bot samples of generated site to see the results :) I really want to say a big THANK YOU to Ivan for the amazing suggestion to implement that feature. I researched the usage of custom tag earlier since it is not documented at all (there's an open issue for that). Thank you for doing the work. Unfortunately I haven't had much time to work on open source lately. Hope to have some soon. Regards, Ivan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org
Re: Fluido skin Maven site
Hi again guys, top-bar is now excluded by default as you suggested and thanks to Ivan hints, see r1189641[1] - Ivan credited in the commit message, it was just a matter of c'n'p from his mail! Kudos, Ivan!!! All the best, have a nice day, Simo [1] https://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revisionrevision=1189641 http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/ http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/ http://twitter.com/simonetripodi http://www.99soft.org/ On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 10:48 PM, Simone Tripodi simonetrip...@apache.org wrote: Salut again Olivier, I wonder to have an option to disable the menu too. For folks who want to have topbar only. I think that this is an interesting option :) All the best!!! Simo http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/ http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/ http://twitter.com/simonetripodi http://www.99soft.org/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org
Re: Fluido skin Maven site
Hi again mates, I just committed also the feature of having sidebar enabled/disabled, to allow it is enough playing with variables in site.xml like the XML snipped below. Please pay attention that when disabling the sidebar, the topbar is NOT automatically enabled, maybe the user really wants to have clean white pages! And when disabling the sidebar, the container layout also changes, no more fluid layout but a fixed central layout, like the one on bootstrap homepage. I'll update later bot samples of generated site to see the results :) I really want to say a big THANK YOU to Ivan for the amazing suggestion to implement that feature. Have a nice day, all the best! Simo custom fluidoSkin topBarEnabledtrue/topBarEnabled sideBarEnabledfalse/sideBarEnabled /fluidoSkin /custom http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/ http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/ http://twitter.com/simonetripodi http://www.99soft.org/ On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 9:20 AM, Simone Tripodi simonetrip...@apache.org wrote: Hi again guys, top-bar is now excluded by default as you suggested and thanks to Ivan hints, see r1189641[1] - Ivan credited in the commit message, it was just a matter of c'n'p from his mail! Kudos, Ivan!!! All the best, have a nice day, Simo [1] https://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revisionrevision=1189641 http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/ http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/ http://twitter.com/simonetripodi http://www.99soft.org/ On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 10:48 PM, Simone Tripodi simonetrip...@apache.org wrote: Salut again Olivier, I wonder to have an option to disable the menu too. For folks who want to have topbar only. I think that this is an interesting option :) All the best!!! Simo http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/ http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/ http://twitter.com/simonetripodi http://www.99soft.org/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org
Re: Fluido skin Maven site
On 27 October 2011 15:56, Simone Tripodi simonetrip...@apache.org wrote: I'll update later bot samples of generated site to see the results :) I really want to say a big THANK YOU to Ivan for the amazing suggestion to implement that feature. I researched the usage of custom tag earlier since it is not documented at all (there's an open issue for that). Thank you for doing the work. Unfortunately I haven't had much time to work on open source lately. Hope to have some soon. Regards, Ivan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org
Re: Fluido skin Maven site
Don't worry Ivan, I got spare time slot and took advantage to experiment, what is really nice is that we now have 4 skins in 1! 1 both side/top bar 2 sidebar only 3 topbar only 4 no bars at all Having 2 by default - the canonical maven skin :) What I need now is uploading the samples. Looking forward to hear more from you soon! All the best, Simo http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/ http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/ http://twitter.com/simonetripodi http://www.99soft.org/ On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 4:03 PM, Ivan Habunek ivan.habu...@gmail.com wrote: On 27 October 2011 15:56, Simone Tripodi simonetrip...@apache.org wrote: I'll update later bot samples of generated site to see the results :) I really want to say a big THANK YOU to Ivan for the amazing suggestion to implement that feature. I researched the usage of custom tag earlier since it is not documented at all (there's an open issue for that). Thank you for doing the work. Unfortunately I haven't had much time to work on open source lately. Hope to have some soon. Regards, Ivan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org
Re: Fluido skin Maven site
Guys, as they say in my country: until there will be music, let's dance! What do you think letting users chose the menubar position, like left/right? :) That would give our users a real free to customize their layouts! Waiting for your feedbacks, have a nice day! Simo http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/ http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/ http://twitter.com/simonetripodi http://www.99soft.org/ On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 4:11 PM, Simone Tripodi simonetrip...@apache.org wrote: Don't worry Ivan, I got spare time slot and took advantage to experiment, what is really nice is that we now have 4 skins in 1! 1 both side/top bar 2 sidebar only 3 topbar only 4 no bars at all Having 2 by default - the canonical maven skin :) What I need now is uploading the samples. Looking forward to hear more from you soon! All the best, Simo http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/ http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/ http://twitter.com/simonetripodi http://www.99soft.org/ On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 4:03 PM, Ivan Habunek ivan.habu...@gmail.com wrote: On 27 October 2011 15:56, Simone Tripodi simonetrip...@apache.org wrote: I'll update later bot samples of generated site to see the results :) I really want to say a big THANK YOU to Ivan for the amazing suggestion to implement that feature. I researched the usage of custom tag earlier since it is not documented at all (there's an open issue for that). Thank you for doing the work. Unfortunately I haven't had much time to work on open source lately. Hope to have some soon. Regards, Ivan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org
Re: Fluido skin Maven site
OK guys, there are previews: * fluido-skin with topbar only: http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/fluido/topbar/ * fluido-skin with sidebar only: http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/fluido/sidebar/ Take a look at used icons too - they are so elegant, IMHO! :) Please share your thoughts/feedbacks/... All the best! Simo http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/ http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/ http://twitter.com/simonetripodi http://www.99soft.org/ On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 4:47 PM, Simone Tripodi simonetrip...@apache.org wrote: Guys, as they say in my country: until there will be music, let's dance! What do you think letting users chose the menubar position, like left/right? :) That would give our users a real free to customize their layouts! Waiting for your feedbacks, have a nice day! Simo http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/ http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/ http://twitter.com/simonetripodi http://www.99soft.org/ On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 4:11 PM, Simone Tripodi simonetrip...@apache.org wrote: Don't worry Ivan, I got spare time slot and took advantage to experiment, what is really nice is that we now have 4 skins in 1! 1 both side/top bar 2 sidebar only 3 topbar only 4 no bars at all Having 2 by default - the canonical maven skin :) What I need now is uploading the samples. Looking forward to hear more from you soon! All the best, Simo http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/ http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/ http://twitter.com/simonetripodi http://www.99soft.org/ On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 4:03 PM, Ivan Habunek ivan.habu...@gmail.com wrote: On 27 October 2011 15:56, Simone Tripodi simonetrip...@apache.org wrote: I'll update later bot samples of generated site to see the results :) I really want to say a big THANK YOU to Ivan for the amazing suggestion to implement that feature. I researched the usage of custom tag earlier since it is not documented at all (there's an open issue for that). Thank you for doing the work. Unfortunately I haven't had much time to work on open source lately. Hope to have some soon. Regards, Ivan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org
Re: Fluido skin Maven site
Nice!! I like the 4 skins in only 1 :-) I wonder about testing with more reports (surefire, mpir, plugin for maven-plugin) ? 2011/10/27 Simone Tripodi simonetrip...@apache.org: OK guys, there are previews: * fluido-skin with topbar only: http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/fluido/topbar/ * fluido-skin with sidebar only: http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/fluido/sidebar/ Take a look at used icons too - they are so elegant, IMHO! :) Please share your thoughts/feedbacks/... All the best! Simo http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/ http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/ http://twitter.com/simonetripodi http://www.99soft.org/ On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 4:47 PM, Simone Tripodi simonetrip...@apache.org wrote: Guys, as they say in my country: until there will be music, let's dance! What do you think letting users chose the menubar position, like left/right? :) That would give our users a real free to customize their layouts! Waiting for your feedbacks, have a nice day! Simo http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/ http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/ http://twitter.com/simonetripodi http://www.99soft.org/ On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 4:11 PM, Simone Tripodi simonetrip...@apache.org wrote: Don't worry Ivan, I got spare time slot and took advantage to experiment, what is really nice is that we now have 4 skins in 1! 1 both side/top bar 2 sidebar only 3 topbar only 4 no bars at all Having 2 by default - the canonical maven skin :) What I need now is uploading the samples. Looking forward to hear more from you soon! All the best, Simo http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/ http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/ http://twitter.com/simonetripodi http://www.99soft.org/ On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 4:03 PM, Ivan Habunek ivan.habu...@gmail.com wrote: On 27 October 2011 15:56, Simone Tripodi simonetrip...@apache.org wrote: I'll update later bot samples of generated site to see the results :) I really want to say a big THANK YOU to Ivan for the amazing suggestion to implement that feature. I researched the usage of custom tag earlier since it is not documented at all (there's an open issue for that). Thank you for doing the work. Unfortunately I haven't had much time to work on open source lately. Hope to have some soon. Regards, Ivan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org -- Olivier Lamy Talend : http://talend.com http://twitter.com/olamy | http://linkedin.com/in/olamy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org
Re: Fluido skin Maven site
Ip updated DOXIASITETOOLS-51 please review and propose improvements Regards, Hervé Le Jeudi 27 Octobre 2011 16:03:40 Ivan Habunek a écrit : On 27 October 2011 15:56, Simone Tripodi simonetrip...@apache.org wrote: I'll update later bot samples of generated site to see the results :) I really want to say a big THANK YOU to Ivan for the amazing suggestion to implement that feature. I researched the usage of custom tag earlier since it is not documented at all (there's an open issue for that). Thank you for doing the work. Unfortunately I haven't had much time to work on open source lately. Hope to have some soon. Regards, Ivan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org
Re: Fluido skin Maven site
Hello,
Not sure it's possible with site.xml.
My idea was using project.properties.
Having topbar disabled by default and activate this with:
project
properties
skin.fluido.topBar.enabledtrue/skin.fluido.topBar.enabled
/properties
...
/project
Makes sense ?
2011/10/25 Simone Tripodi simonetrip...@apache.org:
Salut Olivier,
this is indeed a very nice suggestion! I guess the property should be
defined in the site.xml, right? If yes... how?
Many thanks in advance!
Simo
http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/
http://twitter.com/simonetripodi
http://www.99soft.org/
On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 11:22 PM, Olivier Lamy ol...@apache.org wrote:
I wonder if it could be possible to have the topbar optional ? (tru a
project property: site.enableTopBar ? )
Just to prevent redundancy.
2011/10/18 Simone Tripodi simonetrip...@apache.org:
Hi Barrie!
thanks for sharing your opinions, much more than appreciated!
Please read my replies inline, you wrote a long email I could make
confusion :)
All the best, have a nice day!
Simo
http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/
http://twitter.com/simonetripodi
http://www.99soft.org/
Having larger fonts is making my reading experience better.
I think in general it is an improvement.
Here are some nitpicks (I'm no web site designer) - feel free to
nitpick them too.
I'm no web site designer too ;) that is why we started developing the
new skin on top of Twitter's Bootstrap (twitter.github.com/bootstrap/)
that allows developers playing the role of a designer :P
Jokes a part, color palette, the style, etc etc are all the default
one that comes from Bootstrap.
Users can anyway declare the skin in the site.xml and declare the
overrides/additional classes - as I did in the Maven site PoC - that
is something users are already used to.
I'm not convinced about the drop down menus, I tend to visually ignore
them, but that may just be me.
Ivan is not convinced too, I think/hope is a matter of taste, Olivier,
Christian and I like it, I proposed to keep it because is less work
users should do to have it.. :P
On http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/maven/site/plugins/index.html
some links do not have the blue hyperlink underlining but instead have
a yellow halo.
That is because in the APT page, table elements are declared as
{{{/plugins/maven-clean-plugin/} clean}}
That will be rendered as Monospaced, and that's the default Bootstrap's
style.
That could be easily modified by overriding the class as described before...
Looking around some more at
http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/maven/site/download.html the
yellow halo appears to be the style of apt Monospaced and
must be rendered using a monospaced, typewriter-like font.
yes I understand, the reason is the one before, we can change anyway
the font by overriding, that is something we already did
The halo is drawing my attention to these fields but they aren't
visually that important. Generally used for configuration values and
what you type etc.
default Bootstrap style...
Grey text makes me think of disabled text, and this is the style
applied to numbered lists.
The Installation Instructions section of
http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/maven/site/download.html is a
good example of what I'm talking about.
Visually it looks like I should ignore the text (since its grey) with
large amounts of text I should pay attention too (because they are
haloed).
again default Bootstrap style...
One of my gripes with Confluence is its lack of indentation of
heading/subheadings (I've yet to look into whether I can fix that).
The old site http://maven.apache.org/what-is-maven.html does have
indentation even if the sub headings dont look that great.
Whereas the new version
http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/maven/site/what-is-maven.html
just has smaller heading styles.
Googling about web design seems to indicate to keep headings to two
levels so maybe this is just my problem again :)
that sounds something we can add (I'll add as soon as I get home), can
you point me to what you found on Google? Just a matter of filling the
gap of my lack of design, thanks in advance!!!
All the best,
Simo
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Re: Fluido skin Maven site
On 26 October 2011 09:47, Olivier Lamy ol...@apache.org wrote:
Hello,
Not sure it's possible with site.xml.
My idea was using project.properties.
If you wish to have the config in site.xml you can use the custom
element. Something like:
custom
fluidoSkin
topBarEnabledtrue/topBarEnabled
/fluidoSkin
/custom
Then you can use it in the site template like this:
$decoration.custom.getChild('fluidoSkin').getChild(topBarEnabled).getValue()
Regards,
Ivan
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Re: Fluido skin Maven site
Salut Olivier!
I think that having it in the site.xml, as proposed by Ivan, would be
more canonical, since site.xml is where skin is declared.
Thanks a lot Ivan for the hint, feel free to work on it if you want!
Question is: topbar enabled or disabled by default? Personally I would
like to have it enabled, but I suspect that the general opinion is
having it disabled :)
Have a nice day, all the best!
PS as a side note: I've been working on improving icons styles, don't
be scared/worried if something doesn't look like it should do! it
still is a sandbox anyway :P
http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/
http://twitter.com/simonetripodi
http://www.99soft.org/
On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 10:01 AM, Ivan Habunek ivan.habu...@gmail.com wrote:
On 26 October 2011 09:47, Olivier Lamy ol...@apache.org wrote:
Hello,
Not sure it's possible with site.xml.
My idea was using project.properties.
If you wish to have the config in site.xml you can use the custom
element. Something like:
custom
fluidoSkin
topBarEnabledtrue/topBarEnabled
/fluidoSkin
/custom
Then you can use it in the site template like this:
$decoration.custom.getChild('fluidoSkin').getChild(topBarEnabled).getValue()
Regards,
Ivan
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Re: Fluido skin Maven site
2011/10/26 Simone Tripodi simonetrip...@apache.org:
Salut Olivier!
I think that having it in the site.xml, as proposed by Ivan, would be
more canonical, since site.xml is where skin is declared.
agree on the Ivan proposal.
Thanks a lot Ivan for the hint, feel free to work on it if you want!
Question is: topbar enabled or disabled by default? Personally I would
like to have it enabled, but I suspect that the general opinion is
having it disabled :)
Yup for me too: disabled by default :-)
I wonder to have an option to disable the menu too. For folks who want
to have topbar only.
Have a nice day, all the best!
PS as a side note: I've been working on improving icons styles, don't
be scared/worried if something doesn't look like it should do! it
still is a sandbox anyway :P
http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/
http://twitter.com/simonetripodi
http://www.99soft.org/
On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 10:01 AM, Ivan Habunek ivan.habu...@gmail.com wrote:
On 26 October 2011 09:47, Olivier Lamy ol...@apache.org wrote:
Hello,
Not sure it's possible with site.xml.
My idea was using project.properties.
If you wish to have the config in site.xml you can use the custom
element. Something like:
custom
fluidoSkin
topBarEnabledtrue/topBarEnabled
/fluidoSkin
/custom
Then you can use it in the site template like this:
$decoration.custom.getChild('fluidoSkin').getChild(topBarEnabled).getValue()
Regards,
Ivan
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Re: Fluido skin Maven site
Salut again Olivier, I wonder to have an option to disable the menu too. For folks who want to have topbar only. I think that this is an interesting option :) All the best!!! Simo http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/ http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/ http://twitter.com/simonetripodi http://www.99soft.org/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org
Re: Fluido skin Maven site
I wonder if it could be possible to have the topbar optional ? (tru a
project property: site.enableTopBar ? )
Just to prevent redundancy.
2011/10/18 Simone Tripodi simonetrip...@apache.org:
Hi Barrie!
thanks for sharing your opinions, much more than appreciated!
Please read my replies inline, you wrote a long email I could make confusion
:)
All the best, have a nice day!
Simo
http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/
http://twitter.com/simonetripodi
http://www.99soft.org/
Having larger fonts is making my reading experience better.
I think in general it is an improvement.
Here are some nitpicks (I'm no web site designer) - feel free to
nitpick them too.
I'm no web site designer too ;) that is why we started developing the
new skin on top of Twitter's Bootstrap (twitter.github.com/bootstrap/)
that allows developers playing the role of a designer :P
Jokes a part, color palette, the style, etc etc are all the default
one that comes from Bootstrap.
Users can anyway declare the skin in the site.xml and declare the
overrides/additional classes - as I did in the Maven site PoC - that
is something users are already used to.
I'm not convinced about the drop down menus, I tend to visually ignore
them, but that may just be me.
Ivan is not convinced too, I think/hope is a matter of taste, Olivier,
Christian and I like it, I proposed to keep it because is less work
users should do to have it.. :P
On http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/maven/site/plugins/index.html
some links do not have the blue hyperlink underlining but instead have
a yellow halo.
That is because in the APT page, table elements are declared as
{{{/plugins/maven-clean-plugin/} clean}}
That will be rendered as Monospaced, and that's the default Bootstrap's style.
That could be easily modified by overriding the class as described before...
Looking around some more at
http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/maven/site/download.html the
yellow halo appears to be the style of apt Monospaced and
must be rendered using a monospaced, typewriter-like font.
yes I understand, the reason is the one before, we can change anyway
the font by overriding, that is something we already did
The halo is drawing my attention to these fields but they aren't
visually that important. Generally used for configuration values and
what you type etc.
default Bootstrap style...
Grey text makes me think of disabled text, and this is the style
applied to numbered lists.
The Installation Instructions section of
http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/maven/site/download.html is a
good example of what I'm talking about.
Visually it looks like I should ignore the text (since its grey) with
large amounts of text I should pay attention too (because they are
haloed).
again default Bootstrap style...
One of my gripes with Confluence is its lack of indentation of
heading/subheadings (I've yet to look into whether I can fix that).
The old site http://maven.apache.org/what-is-maven.html does have
indentation even if the sub headings dont look that great.
Whereas the new version
http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/maven/site/what-is-maven.html
just has smaller heading styles.
Googling about web design seems to indicate to keep headings to two
levels so maybe this is just my problem again :)
that sounds something we can add (I'll add as soon as I get home), can
you point me to what you found on Google? Just a matter of filling the
gap of my lack of design, thanks in advance!!!
All the best,
Simo
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Re: Fluido skin Maven site
Salut Olivier,
this is indeed a very nice suggestion! I guess the property should be
defined in the site.xml, right? If yes... how?
Many thanks in advance!
Simo
http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/
http://twitter.com/simonetripodi
http://www.99soft.org/
On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 11:22 PM, Olivier Lamy ol...@apache.org wrote:
I wonder if it could be possible to have the topbar optional ? (tru a
project property: site.enableTopBar ? )
Just to prevent redundancy.
2011/10/18 Simone Tripodi simonetrip...@apache.org:
Hi Barrie!
thanks for sharing your opinions, much more than appreciated!
Please read my replies inline, you wrote a long email I could make confusion
:)
All the best, have a nice day!
Simo
http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/
http://twitter.com/simonetripodi
http://www.99soft.org/
Having larger fonts is making my reading experience better.
I think in general it is an improvement.
Here are some nitpicks (I'm no web site designer) - feel free to
nitpick them too.
I'm no web site designer too ;) that is why we started developing the
new skin on top of Twitter's Bootstrap (twitter.github.com/bootstrap/)
that allows developers playing the role of a designer :P
Jokes a part, color palette, the style, etc etc are all the default
one that comes from Bootstrap.
Users can anyway declare the skin in the site.xml and declare the
overrides/additional classes - as I did in the Maven site PoC - that
is something users are already used to.
I'm not convinced about the drop down menus, I tend to visually ignore
them, but that may just be me.
Ivan is not convinced too, I think/hope is a matter of taste, Olivier,
Christian and I like it, I proposed to keep it because is less work
users should do to have it.. :P
On http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/maven/site/plugins/index.html
some links do not have the blue hyperlink underlining but instead have
a yellow halo.
That is because in the APT page, table elements are declared as
{{{/plugins/maven-clean-plugin/} clean}}
That will be rendered as Monospaced, and that's the default Bootstrap's
style.
That could be easily modified by overriding the class as described before...
Looking around some more at
http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/maven/site/download.html the
yellow halo appears to be the style of apt Monospaced and
must be rendered using a monospaced, typewriter-like font.
yes I understand, the reason is the one before, we can change anyway
the font by overriding, that is something we already did
The halo is drawing my attention to these fields but they aren't
visually that important. Generally used for configuration values and
what you type etc.
default Bootstrap style...
Grey text makes me think of disabled text, and this is the style
applied to numbered lists.
The Installation Instructions section of
http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/maven/site/download.html is a
good example of what I'm talking about.
Visually it looks like I should ignore the text (since its grey) with
large amounts of text I should pay attention too (because they are
haloed).
again default Bootstrap style...
One of my gripes with Confluence is its lack of indentation of
heading/subheadings (I've yet to look into whether I can fix that).
The old site http://maven.apache.org/what-is-maven.html does have
indentation even if the sub headings dont look that great.
Whereas the new version
http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/maven/site/what-is-maven.html
just has smaller heading styles.
Googling about web design seems to indicate to keep headings to two
levels so maybe this is just my problem again :)
that sounds something we can add (I'll add as soon as I get home), can
you point me to what you found on Google? Just a matter of filling the
gap of my lack of design, thanks in advance!!!
All the best,
Simo
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Re: Fluido skin Maven site
Hi Barrie!
thanks for sharing your opinions, much more than appreciated!
Please read my replies inline, you wrote a long email I could make confusion :)
All the best, have a nice day!
Simo
http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/
http://twitter.com/simonetripodi
http://www.99soft.org/
Having larger fonts is making my reading experience better.
I think in general it is an improvement.
Here are some nitpicks (I'm no web site designer) - feel free to
nitpick them too.
I'm no web site designer too ;) that is why we started developing the
new skin on top of Twitter's Bootstrap (twitter.github.com/bootstrap/)
that allows developers playing the role of a designer :P
Jokes a part, color palette, the style, etc etc are all the default
one that comes from Bootstrap.
Users can anyway declare the skin in the site.xml and declare the
overrides/additional classes - as I did in the Maven site PoC - that
is something users are already used to.
I'm not convinced about the drop down menus, I tend to visually ignore
them, but that may just be me.
Ivan is not convinced too, I think/hope is a matter of taste, Olivier,
Christian and I like it, I proposed to keep it because is less work
users should do to have it.. :P
On http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/maven/site/plugins/index.html
some links do not have the blue hyperlink underlining but instead have
a yellow halo.
That is because in the APT page, table elements are declared as
{{{/plugins/maven-clean-plugin/} clean}}
That will be rendered as Monospaced, and that's the default Bootstrap's style.
That could be easily modified by overriding the class as described before...
Looking around some more at
http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/maven/site/download.html the
yellow halo appears to be the style of apt Monospaced and
must be rendered using a monospaced, typewriter-like font.
yes I understand, the reason is the one before, we can change anyway
the font by overriding, that is something we already did
The halo is drawing my attention to these fields but they aren't
visually that important. Generally used for configuration values and
what you type etc.
default Bootstrap style...
Grey text makes me think of disabled text, and this is the style
applied to numbered lists.
The Installation Instructions section of
http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/maven/site/download.html is a
good example of what I'm talking about.
Visually it looks like I should ignore the text (since its grey) with
large amounts of text I should pay attention too (because they are
haloed).
again default Bootstrap style...
One of my gripes with Confluence is its lack of indentation of
heading/subheadings (I've yet to look into whether I can fix that).
The old site http://maven.apache.org/what-is-maven.html does have
indentation even if the sub headings dont look that great.
Whereas the new version
http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/maven/site/what-is-maven.html
just has smaller heading styles.
Googling about web design seems to indicate to keep headings to two
levels so maybe this is just my problem again :)
that sounds something we can add (I'll add as soon as I get home), can
you point me to what you found on Google? Just a matter of filling the
gap of my lack of design, thanks in advance!!!
All the best,
Simo
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Re: Fluido skin Maven site
On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 3:01 AM, Simone Tripodi
simonetrip...@apache.org wrote:
I'm no web site designer too ;) that is why we started developing the
new skin on top of Twitter's Bootstrap (twitter.github.com/bootstrap/)
http://twitter.github.com/bootstrap/
That page looks good and contains advice - something I can make use of
at my company.
Now we need to work out the peculiarities of the Maven site to why it
doesn't look as good.
I'm not convinced about the drop down menus, I tend to visually ignore
them, but that may just be me.
Ivan is not convinced too, I think/hope is a matter of taste, Olivier,
Christian and I like it, I proposed to keep it because is less work
users should do to have it.. :P
Consider my vote +0 :)
On http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/maven/site/plugins/index.html
some links do not have the blue hyperlink underlining but instead have
a yellow halo.
That is because in the APT page, table elements are declared as
{{{/plugins/maven-clean-plugin/} clean}}
That will be rendered as Monospaced, and that's the default Bootstrap's style.
That could be easily modified by overriding the class as described before...
Looking around some more at
http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/maven/site/download.html the
yellow halo appears to be the style of apt Monospaced and
must be rendered using a monospaced, typewriter-like font.
yes I understand, the reason is the one before, we can change anyway
the font by overriding, that is something we already did
The halo is drawing my attention to these fields but they aren't
visually that important. Generally used for configuration values and
what you type etc.
default Bootstrap style...
As noted above http://twitter.github.com/bootstrap/ looks good.
The halo is not drawing my attention away like in on our version of the pages.
I think because their text is black and ours are inside lists which
makes the text grey.
One of my gripes with Confluence is its lack of indentation of
heading/subheadings (I've yet to look into whether I can fix that).
The old site http://maven.apache.org/what-is-maven.html does have
indentation even if the sub headings dont look that great.
Whereas the new version
http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/maven/site/what-is-maven.html
just has smaller heading styles.
Googling about web design seems to indicate to keep headings to two
levels so maybe this is just my problem again :)
that sounds something we can add (I'll add as soon as I get home), can
you point me to what you found on Google? Just a matter of filling the
gap of my lack of design, thanks in advance!!!
I think I just googled
http://www.google.com/search?q=website+design+heading+subheading
And browsed to
* http://www.high-forest.co.uk/web-page-headings.php (this page has
indentation of headings and paragraphs - but so few sites I was
looking at for examples do)
* http://www.kerryr.net/webwriting/techniques_headings.htm
* http://www.vanseodesign.com/web-design/headlines-subheadings/
* http://nichcy.org/dissemination/tools/webwriting/headings
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Fluido skin Maven site
Hi all guys, I just deployed on my ASF personal space[1] the maven.apache.org site where I applied the fluido skin. In order to apply it, if you want to play a little with the site, you have to apply a small patch[2] to the current site. WDYT? Long Maven site pages justify the presence of the top menu bar - which allow switching from a section to another without scrolling back on top. Many thanks in advance, all the best, Simo [1] http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/maven/site/index.html [2] https://gist.github.com/1293481 http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/ http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/ http://twitter.com/simonetripodi http://www.99soft.org/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org
Re: Fluido skin Maven site
+10 ! Others ? 2011/10/17 Simone Tripodi simonetrip...@apache.org: Hi all guys, I just deployed on my ASF personal space[1] the maven.apache.org site where I applied the fluido skin. In order to apply it, if you want to play a little with the site, you have to apply a small patch[2] to the current site. WDYT? Long Maven site pages justify the presence of the top menu bar - which allow switching from a section to another without scrolling back on top. Many thanks in advance, all the best, Simo [1] http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/maven/site/index.html [2] https://gist.github.com/1293481 http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/ http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/ http://twitter.com/simonetripodi http://www.99soft.org/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org -- Olivier Lamy Talend : http://talend.com http://twitter.com/olamy | http://linkedin.com/in/olamy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org
Re: Fluido skin Maven site
Greetings, On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 3:18 PM, Simone Tripodi simonetrip...@apache.org wrote: I just deployed on my ASF personal space[1] the maven.apache.org site where I applied the fluido skin. [1] http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/maven/site/index.html I like it! One enhancement I have wanted for a while with a top-menu based navigation system is depth. By depth I mean, for example, Project Documentation pull down has Project Information, but it would be nice if that was an internal menu hot linking to the reports contained on that page. -Jesse -- There are 10 types of people in this world, those that can read binary and those that can not. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org
Re: Fluido skin Maven site
Hi Jesse, it would be really nice indeed! Unfortunately nested menus are not supported (yet, hopefully it will) by Bootstrap :( So, what I propose is keeping it as is, with the hope that in the future it will be supported. All the best, Simo PS Just a matter of curiosity: your family comes from Italy, right? Farinacci is a name that in my Abbruzzo (my region) is popular :) http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/ http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/ http://twitter.com/simonetripodi http://www.99soft.org/ On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 9:26 PM, Jesse Farinacci jie...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings, On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 3:18 PM, Simone Tripodi simonetrip...@apache.org wrote: I just deployed on my ASF personal space[1] the maven.apache.org site where I applied the fluido skin. [1] http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/maven/site/index.html I like it! One enhancement I have wanted for a while with a top-menu based navigation system is depth. By depth I mean, for example, Project Documentation pull down has Project Information, but it would be nice if that was an internal menu hot linking to the reports contained on that page. -Jesse -- There are 10 types of people in this world, those that can read binary and those that can not. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org
Re: Fluido skin Maven site
On 17.10.2011. 21:18, Simone Tripodi wrote: WDYT? Long Maven site pages justify the presence of the top menu bar - which allow switching from a section to another without scrolling back on top. That looks very nice. Now just to replace the logo with something nicer. I'm not much of an artist, but here's a placeholder image inspired by (copied from) Apache Ant: http://i.imgur.com/7x1BD.gif Regards, Ivan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org
Re: Fluido skin Maven site
Nice one Ivan, even if not being a designer you are good on doing it! In the past someone did something similar[1] I think it was used before the actual skin. For the skin we would need a new iconset, then I think we should almost ready. All the best, have a nice day! Simo [1] http://maven.apache.org/images/apache-maven-project.png http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/ http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/ http://twitter.com/simonetripodi http://www.99soft.org/ 2011/10/17 Ivan Habunek ivan.habu...@gmail.com: On 17.10.2011. 21:18, Simone Tripodi wrote: WDYT? Long Maven site pages justify the presence of the top menu bar - which allow switching from a section to another without scrolling back on top. That looks very nice. Now just to replace the logo with something nicer. I'm not much of an artist, but here's a placeholder image inspired by (copied from) Apache Ant: http://i.imgur.com/7x1BD.gif Regards, Ivan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org
Re: Fluido skin Maven site
see http://people.apache.org/~olamy/maven/site/ right looks strange now ? If nobody complains I will push that :-) 2011/10/17 Simone Tripodi simonetrip...@apache.org: Nice one Ivan, even if not being a designer you are good on doing it! In the past someone did something similar[1] I think it was used before the actual skin. For the skin we would need a new iconset, then I think we should almost ready. All the best, have a nice day! Simo [1] http://maven.apache.org/images/apache-maven-project.png http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/ http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/ http://twitter.com/simonetripodi http://www.99soft.org/ 2011/10/17 Ivan Habunek ivan.habu...@gmail.com: On 17.10.2011. 21:18, Simone Tripodi wrote: WDYT? Long Maven site pages justify the presence of the top menu bar - which allow switching from a section to another without scrolling back on top. That looks very nice. Now just to replace the logo with something nicer. I'm not much of an artist, but here's a placeholder image inspired by (copied from) Apache Ant: http://i.imgur.com/7x1BD.gif Regards, Ivan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org -- Olivier Lamy Talend : http://talend.com http://twitter.com/olamy | http://linkedin.com/in/olamy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org
Re: Fluido skin Maven site
Salut Olivier, looks like site.css is the same as before applying the patch, try run a `clean site` after the patch is applied. HTH, let me know if I can be helpful! Simo http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/ http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/ http://twitter.com/simonetripodi http://www.99soft.org/ On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 10:39 PM, Olivier Lamy ol...@apache.org wrote: see http://people.apache.org/~olamy/maven/site/ right looks strange now ? If nobody complains I will push that :-) 2011/10/17 Simone Tripodi simonetrip...@apache.org: Nice one Ivan, even if not being a designer you are good on doing it! In the past someone did something similar[1] I think it was used before the actual skin. For the skin we would need a new iconset, then I think we should almost ready. All the best, have a nice day! Simo [1] http://maven.apache.org/images/apache-maven-project.png http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/ http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/ http://twitter.com/simonetripodi http://www.99soft.org/ 2011/10/17 Ivan Habunek ivan.habu...@gmail.com: On 17.10.2011. 21:18, Simone Tripodi wrote: WDYT? Long Maven site pages justify the presence of the top menu bar - which allow switching from a section to another without scrolling back on top. That looks very nice. Now just to replace the logo with something nicer. I'm not much of an artist, but here's a placeholder image inspired by (copied from) Apache Ant: http://i.imgur.com/7x1BD.gif Regards, Ivan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org -- Olivier Lamy Talend : http://talend.com http://twitter.com/olamy | http://linkedin.com/in/olamy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org
Re: Fluido skin Maven site
euh refresh ? small issue to fix: removing | after publication date. 2011/10/17 Simone Tripodi simonetrip...@apache.org: Salut Olivier, looks like site.css is the same as before applying the patch, try run a `clean site` after the patch is applied. HTH, let me know if I can be helpful! Simo http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/ http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/ http://twitter.com/simonetripodi http://www.99soft.org/ On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 10:39 PM, Olivier Lamy ol...@apache.org wrote: see http://people.apache.org/~olamy/maven/site/ right looks strange now ? If nobody complains I will push that :-) 2011/10/17 Simone Tripodi simonetrip...@apache.org: Nice one Ivan, even if not being a designer you are good on doing it! In the past someone did something similar[1] I think it was used before the actual skin. For the skin we would need a new iconset, then I think we should almost ready. All the best, have a nice day! Simo [1] http://maven.apache.org/images/apache-maven-project.png http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/ http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/ http://twitter.com/simonetripodi http://www.99soft.org/ 2011/10/17 Ivan Habunek ivan.habu...@gmail.com: On 17.10.2011. 21:18, Simone Tripodi wrote: WDYT? Long Maven site pages justify the presence of the top menu bar - which allow switching from a section to another without scrolling back on top. That looks very nice. Now just to replace the logo with something nicer. I'm not much of an artist, but here's a placeholder image inspired by (copied from) Apache Ant: http://i.imgur.com/7x1BD.gif Regards, Ivan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org -- Olivier Lamy Talend : http://talend.com http://twitter.com/olamy | http://linkedin.com/in/olamy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org -- Olivier Lamy Talend : http://talend.com http://twitter.com/olamy | http://linkedin.com/in/olamy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org
Re: Fluido skin Maven site
On 17.10.2011. 22:39, Olivier Lamy wrote:
see http://people.apache.org/~olamy/maven/site/
right looks strange now ?
If nobody complains I will push that :-)
To me, the right banner picture still looks out of place... I think it
would look better if you removed it and added some margins on the left
banner, for example:
#banner {
margins: 15px 0;
}
Also beware, id=bannerLeft and id=bannerRight are set on both the
a and img elements. I have (just now) removed the id properties from
the img elements. So refresh the project.
Regards,
Ivan
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Re: Fluido skin Maven site
Having larger fonts is making my reading experience better. I think in general it is an improvement. Here are some nitpicks (I'm no web site designer) - feel free to nitpick them too. I'm not convinced about the drop down menus, I tend to visually ignore them, but that may just be me. On http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/maven/site/plugins/index.html some links do not have the blue hyperlink underlining but instead have a yellow halo. Looking around some more at http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/maven/site/download.html the yellow halo appears to be the style of apt Monospaced and must be rendered using a monospaced, typewriter-like font. The halo is drawing my attention to these fields but they aren't visually that important. Generally used for configuration values and what you type etc. Grey text makes me think of disabled text, and this is the style applied to numbered lists. The Installation Instructions section of http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/maven/site/download.html is a good example of what I'm talking about. Visually it looks like I should ignore the text (since its grey) with large amounts of text I should pay attention too (because they are haloed). One of my gripes with Confluence is its lack of indentation of heading/subheadings (I've yet to look into whether I can fix that). The old site http://maven.apache.org/what-is-maven.html does have indentation even if the sub headings dont look that great. Whereas the new version http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/maven/site/what-is-maven.html just has smaller heading styles. Googling about web design seems to indicate to keep headings to two levels so maybe this is just my problem again :) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org
