Re: Prepared Maven 3.5.3 Release Notes

[Olivier Lamy]

Hi,
Nice work. Ok contributors are important but title of the issue as well and
as reading the release note I except to have the most important at the top
without need to scroll down to the far bottom.

What about
Bugs:

   - MNG-6323  - Deadlock
   in multithreaded dependency resolution (reported by xxx)

so IMHO it makes something shorter and easier to read.
With the current when I start reading it I see the issue number the person
who help and asking my self so what is the issue?

On 26 February 2018 at 01:00, Karl Heinz Marbaise  wrote:

> Hi Stephen,
>
> On 25/02/18 09:06, Stephen Connolly wrote:
>
>> On Sat 24 Feb 2018 at 21:02, Gary Gregory  wrote:
>>
>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> Thank you for preparing a release.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Well I managed to consolidate some of the steps for this one... I think it
>> will be nearer 20-25 steps, down from 30
>>
>> I’m still hoping to get to a more automated solution (modulo we need a
>> release vote)
>>
>> NOTE: this is not the final release notes, rather a draft... and until the
>> vote completes there is no release.
>>
>>
>>
>>> As a user, this is useless:
>>>
>>>
>> The Maven project *really* wants to express. as our most important thing
>> about any release, the debt of gratitude we owe to any non-committer who
>> contributes in any way to the release.
>>
>> If we included the issue description in this section, people would focus
>> on
>> the description and not the values contributors.
>>
>> Perhaps we could start this section with a sentence to this effect, eg
>>
>> “We really value the contributions of these non committers, so this
>> section
>> is focused on those individuals. Descriptions of the issues fixed can be
>> found at the end of these release notes”
>>
>
> That looks like a very good idea...Added to the draft state...Thanks for
> expressing that...
>
>
>
>>
>> Bugs:
>>>
>>> - MNG-6323 
>>> reporter:
>>> Ben Caradoc-Davies
>>> - MNG-6320 
>>> reporter:
>>> Eugene Pliskin
>>> - MNG-6300 
>>> reporter:
>>> Andreas Kurth
>>> - MNG-6298 
>>> reporter:
>>> Ryan Heaton
>>> - MNG-6296 
>>> reporter:
>>> Robin Müller
>>> - MNG-6282 
>>> reporter:
>>> Dejan Stojadinović
>>> - MNG-6255 
>>> reporter:
>>> Andrew Kennedy
>>>
>>> Improvements:
>>>
>>> - MNG-6340 
>>> reporter:
>>> Tony Guan
>>> - MNG-6306 
>>> reporter:
>>> Andy Wilkinson
>>> - MNG-5992 
>>> reporter:
>>> Ryan J. McDonough
>>>
>>> I need to see the ticket DESCRIPTION. I do not care about the AUTHOR.
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>> Gary
>>>
>>> On Sat, Feb 24, 2018 at 1:47 PM, Karl Heinz Marbaise 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi to all,

 I have prepared Maven 3.5.3 Release notes.

 You can take a look here:

 https://github.com/khmarbaise/maven-release-notes/blob/maste
 r/content/markdown/docs/3.5.3/release-notes.md

 If you have improvements/ideas/supplementals etc. don't hesitate to
 contact me or make a PR...

 Kind regards
 Karl Heinz Marbaise

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Re: Prepared Maven 3.5.3 Release Notes

[Karl Heinz Marbaise]

Hi Stephen,

On 25/02/18 09:06, Stephen Connolly wrote:

On Sat 24 Feb 2018 at 21:02, Gary Gregory  wrote:


Hi All,

Thank you for preparing a release.



Well I managed to consolidate some of the steps for this one... I think it
will be nearer 20-25 steps, down from 30

I’m still hoping to get to a more automated solution (modulo we need a
release vote)

NOTE: this is not the final release notes, rather a draft... and until the
vote completes there is no release.




As a user, this is useless:



The Maven project *really* wants to express. as our most important thing
about any release, the debt of gratitude we owe to any non-committer who
contributes in any way to the release.

If we included the issue description in this section, people would focus on
the description and not the values contributors.

Perhaps we could start this section with a sentence to this effect, eg

“We really value the contributions of these non committers, so this section
is focused on those individuals. Descriptions of the issues fixed can be
found at the end of these release notes”


That looks like a very good idea...Added to the draft state...Thanks for 
expressing that...







Bugs:

- MNG-6323  reporter:
Ben Caradoc-Davies
- MNG-6320  reporter:
Eugene Pliskin
- MNG-6300  reporter:
Andreas Kurth
- MNG-6298  reporter:
Ryan Heaton
- MNG-6296  reporter:
Robin Müller
- MNG-6282  reporter:
Dejan Stojadinović
- MNG-6255  reporter:
Andrew Kennedy

Improvements:

- MNG-6340  reporter:
Tony Guan
- MNG-6306  reporter:
Andy Wilkinson
- MNG-5992  reporter:
Ryan J. McDonough

I need to see the ticket DESCRIPTION. I do not care about the AUTHOR.

Thank you,
Gary

On Sat, Feb 24, 2018 at 1:47 PM, Karl Heinz Marbaise 
wrote:


Hi to all,

I have prepared Maven 3.5.3 Release notes.

You can take a look here:

https://github.com/khmarbaise/maven-release-notes/blob/maste
r/content/markdown/docs/3.5.3/release-notes.md

If you have improvements/ideas/supplementals etc. don't hesitate to
contact me or make a PR...

Kind regards
Karl Heinz Marbaise

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Re: Prepared Maven 3.5.3 Release Notes

[Stephen Connolly]

On Sat 24 Feb 2018 at 21:02, Gary Gregory  wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> Thank you for preparing a release.


Well I managed to consolidate some of the steps for this one... I think it
will be nearer 20-25 steps, down from 30

I’m still hoping to get to a more automated solution (modulo we need a
release vote)

NOTE: this is not the final release notes, rather a draft... and until the
vote completes there is no release.


>
> As a user, this is useless:
>

The Maven project *really* wants to express. as our most important thing
about any release, the debt of gratitude we owe to any non-committer who
contributes in any way to the release.

If we included the issue description in this section, people would focus on
the description and not the values contributors.

Perhaps we could start this section with a sentence to this effect, eg

“We really value the contributions of these non committers, so this section
is focused on those individuals. Descriptions of the issues fixed can be
found at the end of these release notes”


> Bugs:
>
>- MNG-6323  reporter:
>Ben Caradoc-Davies
>- MNG-6320  reporter:
>Eugene Pliskin
>- MNG-6300  reporter:
>Andreas Kurth
>- MNG-6298  reporter:
>Ryan Heaton
>- MNG-6296  reporter:
>Robin Müller
>- MNG-6282  reporter:
>Dejan Stojadinović
>- MNG-6255  reporter:
>Andrew Kennedy
>
> Improvements:
>
>- MNG-6340  reporter:
>Tony Guan
>- MNG-6306  reporter:
>Andy Wilkinson
>- MNG-5992  reporter:
>Ryan J. McDonough
>
> I need to see the ticket DESCRIPTION. I do not care about the AUTHOR.
>
> Thank you,
> Gary
>
> On Sat, Feb 24, 2018 at 1:47 PM, Karl Heinz Marbaise 
> wrote:
>
> > Hi to all,
> >
> > I have prepared Maven 3.5.3 Release notes.
> >
> > You can take a look here:
> >
> > https://github.com/khmarbaise/maven-release-notes/blob/maste
> > r/content/markdown/docs/3.5.3/release-notes.md
> >
> > If you have improvements/ideas/supplementals etc. don't hesitate to
> > contact me or make a PR...
> >
> > Kind regards
> > Karl Heinz Marbaise
> >
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> >
>
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Re: Prepared Maven 3.5.3 Release Notes

[Stephen Connolly]

Thanks for writing these up... I was going to do it today, but you saved me
the work!

On Sat 24 Feb 2018 at 20:47, Karl Heinz Marbaise  wrote:

> Hi to all,
>
> I have prepared Maven 3.5.3 Release notes.
>
> You can take a look here:
>
>
> https://github.com/khmarbaise/maven-release-notes/blob/master/content/markdown/docs/3.5.3/release-notes.md
>
> If you have improvements/ideas/supplementals etc. don't hesitate to
> contact me or make a PR...
>
> Kind regards
> Karl Heinz Marbaise
>
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Re: Prepared Maven 3.5.3 Release Notes

[Gary Gregory]

On Sat, Feb 24, 2018 at 2:24 PM, Karl Heinz Marbaise 
wrote:

> Hi Gary,
>
> On 24/02/18 22:02, Gary Gregory wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Thank you for preparing a release.
>>
>
> You're weclome.
>
>
>> As a user, this is useless:
>>
>> Bugs:
>>
>> - MNG-6323  reporter:
>> Ben Caradoc-Davies
>> - MNG-6320  reporter:
>> Eugene Pliskin
>> - MNG-6300  reporter:
>> Andreas Kurth
>> - MNG-6298  reporter:
>> Ryan Heaton
>> - MNG-6296  reporter:
>> Robin Müller
>> - MNG-6282  reporter:
>> Dejan Stojadinović
>> - MNG-6255  reporter:
>> Andrew Kennedy
>>
>> Improvements:
>>
>> - MNG-6340  reporter:
>> Tony Guan
>> - MNG-6306  reporter:
>> Andy Wilkinson
>> - MNG-5992  reporter:
>> Ryan J. McDonough
>>
>> I need to see the ticket DESCRIPTION. I do not care about the AUTHOR.
>>
>
> Sorry but I do care about the authors of the tickets, cause it shows
> their interest in helping making Maven better and contributing to Maven
> and I will honor those people at least with mentioning them in the Release
> Notes.
>

Hi,

I am not suggesting removal of the names of folks who have contributed,
just the addition of the ticket description. And yes, after scrolling down
I found the information I was looking for, which I expect to see front and
center in RNs, not deeper in.

Cheers,
Gary


>
> This is the foundation of an open source project or in other words the
> community we have here.
>
> I have a complete different opinion about that in particular in my Role as
> a Apache Maven PMC
>
> Sorry to say that in a very clear and maybe a little harsh way sorry if
> you grasp it that way.
>
> Apart from that I have added detailed descriptions about the changes which
> have been made and what they mean. Furthermore you will find a list of the
> tickets also and of course a link to the JIRA.
>
> If you have supplementals/enhancements/fixes or improvements for example
> the descriptions please feel free to add PR's or open at least issues on
> the git repository or make suggestions here on the mailing list...
>
> Kind regards
> Karl Heinz Marbaise
> Apache Maven PMC
>
>
>
>> Thank you,
>> Gary
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 24, 2018 at 1:47 PM, Karl Heinz Marbaise 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi to all,
>>>
>>> I have prepared Maven 3.5.3 Release notes.
>>>
>>> You can take a look here:
>>>
>>> https://github.com/khmarbaise/maven-release-notes/blob/maste
>>> r/content/markdown/docs/3.5.3/release-notes.md
>>>
>>> If you have improvements/ideas/supplementals etc. don't hesitate to
>>> contact me or make a PR...
>>>
>>> Kind regards
>>> Karl Heinz Marbaise
>>>
>>

Re: Prepared Maven 3.5.3 Release Notes

[Karl Heinz Marbaise]

Hi Gary,

On 24/02/18 22:02, Gary Gregory wrote:

Hi All,

Thank you for preparing a release.


You're weclome.



As a user, this is useless:

Bugs:

- MNG-6323  reporter:
Ben Caradoc-Davies
- MNG-6320  reporter:
Eugene Pliskin
- MNG-6300  reporter:
Andreas Kurth
- MNG-6298  reporter:
Ryan Heaton
- MNG-6296  reporter:
Robin Müller
- MNG-6282  reporter:
Dejan Stojadinović
- MNG-6255  reporter:
Andrew Kennedy

Improvements:

- MNG-6340  reporter:
Tony Guan
- MNG-6306  reporter:
Andy Wilkinson
- MNG-5992  reporter:
Ryan J. McDonough

I need to see the ticket DESCRIPTION. I do not care about the AUTHOR.


Sorry but I do care about the authors of the tickets, cause it shows
their interest in helping making Maven better and contributing to Maven 
and I will honor those people at least with mentioning them in the 
Release Notes.


This is the foundation of an open source project or in other words the 
community we have here.


I have a complete different opinion about that in particular in my Role 
as a Apache Maven PMC


Sorry to say that in a very clear and maybe a little harsh way sorry if 
you grasp it that way.


Apart from that I have added detailed descriptions about the changes 
which have been made and what they mean. Furthermore you will find a 
list of the tickets also and of course a link to the JIRA.


If you have supplementals/enhancements/fixes or improvements for example 
the descriptions please feel free to add PR's or open at least issues on 
the git repository or make suggestions here on the mailing list...


Kind regards
Karl Heinz Marbaise
Apache Maven PMC




Thank you,
Gary

On Sat, Feb 24, 2018 at 1:47 PM, Karl Heinz Marbaise 
wrote:


Hi to all,

I have prepared Maven 3.5.3 Release notes.

You can take a look here:

https://github.com/khmarbaise/maven-release-notes/blob/maste
r/content/markdown/docs/3.5.3/release-notes.md

If you have improvements/ideas/supplementals etc. don't hesitate to
contact me or make a PR...

Kind regards
Karl Heinz Marbaise


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Re: Prepared Maven 3.5.3 Release Notes

[Gary Gregory]

Hi All,

Thank you for preparing a release.

As a user, this is useless:

Bugs:

   - MNG-6323  reporter:
   Ben Caradoc-Davies
   - MNG-6320  reporter:
   Eugene Pliskin
   - MNG-6300  reporter:
   Andreas Kurth
   - MNG-6298  reporter:
   Ryan Heaton
   - MNG-6296  reporter:
   Robin Müller
   - MNG-6282  reporter:
   Dejan Stojadinović
   - MNG-6255  reporter:
   Andrew Kennedy

Improvements:

   - MNG-6340  reporter:
   Tony Guan
   - MNG-6306  reporter:
   Andy Wilkinson
   - MNG-5992  reporter:
   Ryan J. McDonough

I need to see the ticket DESCRIPTION. I do not care about the AUTHOR.

Thank you,
Gary

On Sat, Feb 24, 2018 at 1:47 PM, Karl Heinz Marbaise 
wrote:

> Hi to all,
>
> I have prepared Maven 3.5.3 Release notes.
>
> You can take a look here:
>
> https://github.com/khmarbaise/maven-release-notes/blob/maste
> r/content/markdown/docs/3.5.3/release-notes.md
>
> If you have improvements/ideas/supplementals etc. don't hesitate to
> contact me or make a PR...
>
> Kind regards
> Karl Heinz Marbaise
>
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