Re: [DISCUSS] Project graduation?

[Won Wook SONG]

Hi,

As discussed on the thread in general@incubator.a.o [1]
, could I
kindly ask for some additional opinions from our mentors?

Thank you!
Regards
Wonook
[1]: https://lists.apache.org/thread/to1xdxzlfvkt9cwdnoc4vb6otgvl2vbc



2022년 11월 1일 (화) 오후 3:37, Joo Yeon Kim 님이 작성:

> Hello everyone.
>
> I also agree that the PMC chair should go to Wonook :)
> Thank you all for the work and participation to lead this project to
> graduation!
>
> Best regards,
> Joo Yeon
>
> 2022년 11월 1일 (화) 오후 2:06, Byung-Gon Chun 님이 작성:
>
> > Hi Won Wook,
> >
> > As far as I remember, PPMC members automatically become PMC members
> unless
> > one explicitly mentions to exclude her or him from the PMC.
> >
> > Thanks.
> > -Gon
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 1, 2022 at 1:32 PM Won Wook SONG  wrote:
> >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > [ACTION REQUIRED]!!
> > >
> > > Thanks for your support! As for our graduation, I've created a
> resolution
> > > to establish Apache Nemo. Please take a look at the following link, and
> > add
> > > yourself to the list of initial PMCs, if you want to be a part of it!
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1n_SSHfHlpp7pXoOueT0JZAFvcRJp8npV--dRf7yjtSE/edit?usp=sharing
> > >
> > > I'll let it open until the end of the week, to start the voting process
> > by
> > > next week.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Wonook
> > >
> > >
> > > 2022년 11월 1일 (화) 오전 8:00, Sanha Lee 님이 작성:
> > >
> > > > Hi Wonwook,
> > > > Thanks for your hard work!
> > > >
> > > > +1 for project graduation and our chair candidate.
> > > >
> > > > I'm glad to see Nemo's graduation process :)
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > Sanha
> > > >
> > > > 2022년 11월 1일 (화) 오전 7:51, Yunseong Lee 님이 작성:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Wonwook,
> > > > > Thanks for initiating the graduation process!
> > > > >
> > > > > I agree that the project is ready to graduate, and
> > > > > Wonwook is the best candidate to be the chair of PMCs. :)
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > > Yunseong
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, Oct 31, 2022 at 10:39 PM Woo-Yeon Lee <
> wylee.x...@gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > As a PPMC member of Nemo, I am happy that we are talking about
> > Nemo's
> > > > > > graduation :)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > As Justin reminded us, during our incubation period, we have been
> > > > > steadily
> > > > > > working hard on project development and release.
> > > > > > Nemo has grown a lot during the incubator period, and as major
> > > > committers
> > > > > > continue to be active, I expect it to grow even more in the
> future
> > > > after
> > > > > > graduation.
> > > > > > So +1 for graduation.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > And +1 for Wonook to be the chair of the initial PMC, as he is
> very
> > > > > > passionate about Nemo and has been active in it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > Woo-Yeon
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, Oct 26, 2022 at 9:10 AM Byung-Gon Chun  >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi Wonook,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thank you for sharing the process!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I recommend Wonook to be the chair of the initial PMC.
> > > > > > > Wonook has been very active in the Nemo community.
> > > > > > > He has developed the main parts of Nemo. He has been our
> > evangelist
> > > > to
> > > > > > > introduce Nemo to various venues including a Beam summit.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > > Gon
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Wed, Oct 26, 2022 at 8:01 AM Won Wook SONG <
> won...@apache.org
> > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > As suggested, let's broaden our discussion to the dev@
> mailing
> > > > > thread.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I've taken some time to look at the graduation process and
> > found
> > > > this
> > > > > > > link
> > > > > > > > <
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#graduating_to_a_top_level_project
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > and the procedures below.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >  1. [DISCUSS] thread for community input and to gauge
> > consensus.
> > > > > During
> > > > > > > > this thread, the resolution for graduation is put in front of
> > > > > everyone,
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > a chair is chosen, as is the initial PMC. My suggestion is to
> > > take
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > > existing PPMC and make them the initial PMC. That includes
> > > mentors.
> > > > > > > Assume
> > > > > > > > everyone wants in, and don’t be exclusionary. Who should be
> the
> > > > > chair?
> > > > > > > > That’s up to you guys and gals :) The thing there is to have
> > > > someone
> > > > > > who
> > > > > > > > can submit and create a board report for the first 3 months,
> > then
> > > > > > > quarterly
> > > > > > > > after, and to be the “eyes and ears of the board” 

Re: [DISCUSS] Project graduation?

[Joo Yeon Kim]

Hello everyone.

I also agree that the PMC chair should go to Wonook :)
Thank you all for the work and participation to lead this project to
graduation!

Best regards,
Joo Yeon

2022년 11월 1일 (화) 오후 2:06, Byung-Gon Chun 님이 작성:

> Hi Won Wook,
>
> As far as I remember, PPMC members automatically become PMC members unless
> one explicitly mentions to exclude her or him from the PMC.
>
> Thanks.
> -Gon
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 1, 2022 at 1:32 PM Won Wook SONG  wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > [ACTION REQUIRED]!!
> >
> > Thanks for your support! As for our graduation, I've created a resolution
> > to establish Apache Nemo. Please take a look at the following link, and
> add
> > yourself to the list of initial PMCs, if you want to be a part of it!
> >
> >
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1n_SSHfHlpp7pXoOueT0JZAFvcRJp8npV--dRf7yjtSE/edit?usp=sharing
> >
> > I'll let it open until the end of the week, to start the voting process
> by
> > next week.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Wonook
> >
> >
> > 2022년 11월 1일 (화) 오전 8:00, Sanha Lee 님이 작성:
> >
> > > Hi Wonwook,
> > > Thanks for your hard work!
> > >
> > > +1 for project graduation and our chair candidate.
> > >
> > > I'm glad to see Nemo's graduation process :)
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Sanha
> > >
> > > 2022년 11월 1일 (화) 오전 7:51, Yunseong Lee 님이 작성:
> > >
> > > > Hi Wonwook,
> > > > Thanks for initiating the graduation process!
> > > >
> > > > I agree that the project is ready to graduate, and
> > > > Wonwook is the best candidate to be the chair of PMCs. :)
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Yunseong
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Oct 31, 2022 at 10:39 PM Woo-Yeon Lee 
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > As a PPMC member of Nemo, I am happy that we are talking about
> Nemo's
> > > > > graduation :)
> > > > >
> > > > > As Justin reminded us, during our incubation period, we have been
> > > > steadily
> > > > > working hard on project development and release.
> > > > > Nemo has grown a lot during the incubator period, and as major
> > > committers
> > > > > continue to be active, I expect it to grow even more in the future
> > > after
> > > > > graduation.
> > > > > So +1 for graduation.
> > > > >
> > > > > And +1 for Wonook to be the chair of the initial PMC, as he is very
> > > > > passionate about Nemo and has been active in it.
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > Woo-Yeon
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Oct 26, 2022 at 9:10 AM Byung-Gon Chun 
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Wonook,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thank you for sharing the process!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I recommend Wonook to be the chair of the initial PMC.
> > > > > > Wonook has been very active in the Nemo community.
> > > > > > He has developed the main parts of Nemo. He has been our
> evangelist
> > > to
> > > > > > introduce Nemo to various venues including a Beam summit.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > Gon
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, Oct 26, 2022 at 8:01 AM Won Wook SONG  >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > As suggested, let's broaden our discussion to the dev@ mailing
> > > > thread.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I've taken some time to look at the graduation process and
> found
> > > this
> > > > > > link
> > > > > > > <
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#graduating_to_a_top_level_project
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > and the procedures below.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >  1. [DISCUSS] thread for community input and to gauge
> consensus.
> > > > During
> > > > > > > this thread, the resolution for graduation is put in front of
> > > > everyone,
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > a chair is chosen, as is the initial PMC. My suggestion is to
> > take
> > > > the
> > > > > > > existing PPMC and make them the initial PMC. That includes
> > mentors.
> > > > > > Assume
> > > > > > > everyone wants in, and don’t be exclusionary. Who should be the
> > > > chair?
> > > > > > > That’s up to you guys and gals :) The thing there is to have
> > > someone
> > > > > who
> > > > > > > can submit and create a board report for the first 3 months,
> then
> > > > > > quarterly
> > > > > > > after, and to be the “eyes and ears of the board” in the
> > community.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >  2. Once 1 is done (I usually leave it up for at least 72
> hours),
> > > we
> > > > > then
> > > > > > > call a [VOTE] thread. This should be a community VOTE, on the
> dev
> > > > list
> > > > > > for
> > > > > > > all to participate in.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >  3. Once 2 is done, proceed to general@incubator.a.o with a
> > [VOTE]
> > > > > > thread.
> > > > > > > If we got at least 3 +1 IPMCs (hopefully from 2) already, we’re
> > > > golden,
> > > > > > but
> > > > > > > looking for more IPMC consensus. If we didn’t get 3 +1 IPMC
> votes
> > > in
> > > > 2,
> > > > > > > we’re looking to get them here.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >  4. If 3 pass, we paste the resolution into next month’s board
> > > > agenda,

Re: [DISCUSS] Project graduation?

[Byung-Gon Chun]

Hi Won Wook,

As far as I remember, PPMC members automatically become PMC members unless
one explicitly mentions to exclude her or him from the PMC.

Thanks.
-Gon


On Tue, Nov 1, 2022 at 1:32 PM Won Wook SONG  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> [ACTION REQUIRED]!!
>
> Thanks for your support! As for our graduation, I've created a resolution
> to establish Apache Nemo. Please take a look at the following link, and add
> yourself to the list of initial PMCs, if you want to be a part of it!
>
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1n_SSHfHlpp7pXoOueT0JZAFvcRJp8npV--dRf7yjtSE/edit?usp=sharing
>
> I'll let it open until the end of the week, to start the voting process by
> next week.
>
> Thanks,
> Wonook
>
>
> 2022년 11월 1일 (화) 오전 8:00, Sanha Lee 님이 작성:
>
> > Hi Wonwook,
> > Thanks for your hard work!
> >
> > +1 for project graduation and our chair candidate.
> >
> > I'm glad to see Nemo's graduation process :)
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Sanha
> >
> > 2022년 11월 1일 (화) 오전 7:51, Yunseong Lee 님이 작성:
> >
> > > Hi Wonwook,
> > > Thanks for initiating the graduation process!
> > >
> > > I agree that the project is ready to graduate, and
> > > Wonwook is the best candidate to be the chair of PMCs. :)
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Yunseong
> > >
> > > On Mon, Oct 31, 2022 at 10:39 PM Woo-Yeon Lee 
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > As a PPMC member of Nemo, I am happy that we are talking about Nemo's
> > > > graduation :)
> > > >
> > > > As Justin reminded us, during our incubation period, we have been
> > > steadily
> > > > working hard on project development and release.
> > > > Nemo has grown a lot during the incubator period, and as major
> > committers
> > > > continue to be active, I expect it to grow even more in the future
> > after
> > > > graduation.
> > > > So +1 for graduation.
> > > >
> > > > And +1 for Wonook to be the chair of the initial PMC, as he is very
> > > > passionate about Nemo and has been active in it.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > Woo-Yeon
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Oct 26, 2022 at 9:10 AM Byung-Gon Chun 
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Wonook,
> > > > >
> > > > > Thank you for sharing the process!
> > > > >
> > > > > I recommend Wonook to be the chair of the initial PMC.
> > > > > Wonook has been very active in the Nemo community.
> > > > > He has developed the main parts of Nemo. He has been our evangelist
> > to
> > > > > introduce Nemo to various venues including a Beam summit.
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > Gon
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Oct 26, 2022 at 8:01 AM Won Wook SONG 
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > As suggested, let's broaden our discussion to the dev@ mailing
> > > thread.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I've taken some time to look at the graduation process and found
> > this
> > > > > link
> > > > > > <
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#graduating_to_a_top_level_project
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > and the procedures below.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >  1. [DISCUSS] thread for community input and to gauge consensus.
> > > During
> > > > > > this thread, the resolution for graduation is put in front of
> > > everyone,
> > > > > and
> > > > > > a chair is chosen, as is the initial PMC. My suggestion is to
> take
> > > the
> > > > > > existing PPMC and make them the initial PMC. That includes
> mentors.
> > > > > Assume
> > > > > > everyone wants in, and don’t be exclusionary. Who should be the
> > > chair?
> > > > > > That’s up to you guys and gals :) The thing there is to have
> > someone
> > > > who
> > > > > > can submit and create a board report for the first 3 months, then
> > > > > quarterly
> > > > > > after, and to be the “eyes and ears of the board” in the
> community.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >  2. Once 1 is done (I usually leave it up for at least 72 hours),
> > we
> > > > then
> > > > > > call a [VOTE] thread. This should be a community VOTE, on the dev
> > > list
> > > > > for
> > > > > > all to participate in.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >  3. Once 2 is done, proceed to general@incubator.a.o with a
> [VOTE]
> > > > > thread.
> > > > > > If we got at least 3 +1 IPMCs (hopefully from 2) already, we’re
> > > golden,
> > > > > but
> > > > > > looking for more IPMC consensus. If we didn’t get 3 +1 IPMC votes
> > in
> > > 2,
> > > > > > we’re looking to get them here.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >  4. If 3 pass, we paste the resolution into next month’s board
> > > agenda,
> > > > > and
> > > > > > then if it passes at the board meeting we are on our way to a TLP
> > and
> > > > > then
> > > > > > must execute these steps (usually the chair does it):
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#life-after-graduation
> > > > > >
> > > > > > According to 1, we need to choose a chair as the initial PMC, and
> > > after
> > > > > > that, we can put up a community VOTE for graduation.
> > > > > > Then, we should post a VOTE for the IPMCs with our community vote
> > > > > results,
> > > > > > an

Re: [DISCUSS] Project graduation?

[Won Wook SONG]

Hi all,

[ACTION REQUIRED]!!

Thanks for your support! As for our graduation, I've created a resolution
to establish Apache Nemo. Please take a look at the following link, and add
yourself to the list of initial PMCs, if you want to be a part of it!
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1n_SSHfHlpp7pXoOueT0JZAFvcRJp8npV--dRf7yjtSE/edit?usp=sharing

I'll let it open until the end of the week, to start the voting process by
next week.

Thanks,
Wonook


2022년 11월 1일 (화) 오전 8:00, Sanha Lee 님이 작성:

> Hi Wonwook,
> Thanks for your hard work!
>
> +1 for project graduation and our chair candidate.
>
> I'm glad to see Nemo's graduation process :)
>
> Cheers,
> Sanha
>
> 2022년 11월 1일 (화) 오전 7:51, Yunseong Lee 님이 작성:
>
> > Hi Wonwook,
> > Thanks for initiating the graduation process!
> >
> > I agree that the project is ready to graduate, and
> > Wonwook is the best candidate to be the chair of PMCs. :)
> >
> > Regards,
> > Yunseong
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 31, 2022 at 10:39 PM Woo-Yeon Lee 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > As a PPMC member of Nemo, I am happy that we are talking about Nemo's
> > > graduation :)
> > >
> > > As Justin reminded us, during our incubation period, we have been
> > steadily
> > > working hard on project development and release.
> > > Nemo has grown a lot during the incubator period, and as major
> committers
> > > continue to be active, I expect it to grow even more in the future
> after
> > > graduation.
> > > So +1 for graduation.
> > >
> > > And +1 for Wonook to be the chair of the initial PMC, as he is very
> > > passionate about Nemo and has been active in it.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Woo-Yeon
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Oct 26, 2022 at 9:10 AM Byung-Gon Chun 
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Wonook,
> > > >
> > > > Thank you for sharing the process!
> > > >
> > > > I recommend Wonook to be the chair of the initial PMC.
> > > > Wonook has been very active in the Nemo community.
> > > > He has developed the main parts of Nemo. He has been our evangelist
> to
> > > > introduce Nemo to various venues including a Beam summit.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > Gon
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Oct 26, 2022 at 8:01 AM Won Wook SONG 
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > As suggested, let's broaden our discussion to the dev@ mailing
> > thread.
> > > > >
> > > > > I've taken some time to look at the graduation process and found
> this
> > > > link
> > > > > <
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#graduating_to_a_top_level_project
> > > > > >
> > > > > and the procedures below.
> > > > >
> > > > >  1. [DISCUSS] thread for community input and to gauge consensus.
> > During
> > > > > this thread, the resolution for graduation is put in front of
> > everyone,
> > > > and
> > > > > a chair is chosen, as is the initial PMC. My suggestion is to take
> > the
> > > > > existing PPMC and make them the initial PMC. That includes mentors.
> > > > Assume
> > > > > everyone wants in, and don’t be exclusionary. Who should be the
> > chair?
> > > > > That’s up to you guys and gals :) The thing there is to have
> someone
> > > who
> > > > > can submit and create a board report for the first 3 months, then
> > > > quarterly
> > > > > after, and to be the “eyes and ears of the board” in the community.
> > > > >
> > > > >  2. Once 1 is done (I usually leave it up for at least 72 hours),
> we
> > > then
> > > > > call a [VOTE] thread. This should be a community VOTE, on the dev
> > list
> > > > for
> > > > > all to participate in.
> > > > >
> > > > >  3. Once 2 is done, proceed to general@incubator.a.o with a [VOTE]
> > > > thread.
> > > > > If we got at least 3 +1 IPMCs (hopefully from 2) already, we’re
> > golden,
> > > > but
> > > > > looking for more IPMC consensus. If we didn’t get 3 +1 IPMC votes
> in
> > 2,
> > > > > we’re looking to get them here.
> > > > >
> > > > >  4. If 3 pass, we paste the resolution into next month’s board
> > agenda,
> > > > and
> > > > > then if it passes at the board meeting we are on our way to a TLP
> and
> > > > then
> > > > > must execute these steps (usually the chair does it):
> > > > >
> > >
> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#life-after-graduation
> > > > >
> > > > > According to 1, we need to choose a chair as the initial PMC, and
> > after
> > > > > that, we can put up a community VOTE for graduation.
> > > > > Then, we should post a VOTE for the IPMCs with our community vote
> > > > results,
> > > > > and after that, we can submit the resolution to the board.
> > > > >
> > > > > We have several releases and I think we are ready to graduate, also
> > > with
> > > > > the maturity checklist
> > > > > <
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1qQsjqZl9gJQz85-2MGjNWqNB58SiXPWNocEkxP7Vy0c/edit
> > > > > >
> > > > > in
> > > > > our mind. Please let us know your opinions on choosing our chair 😀
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > >
> > > > > Wonook
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > 2022년 10월 21일 (금) 오후 11:3

Re: [DISCUSS] Project graduation?

[Sanha Lee]

Hi Wonwook,
Thanks for your hard work!

+1 for project graduation and our chair candidate.

I'm glad to see Nemo's graduation process :)

Cheers,
Sanha

2022년 11월 1일 (화) 오전 7:51, Yunseong Lee 님이 작성:

> Hi Wonwook,
> Thanks for initiating the graduation process!
>
> I agree that the project is ready to graduate, and
> Wonwook is the best candidate to be the chair of PMCs. :)
>
> Regards,
> Yunseong
>
> On Mon, Oct 31, 2022 at 10:39 PM Woo-Yeon Lee 
> wrote:
>
> > As a PPMC member of Nemo, I am happy that we are talking about Nemo's
> > graduation :)
> >
> > As Justin reminded us, during our incubation period, we have been
> steadily
> > working hard on project development and release.
> > Nemo has grown a lot during the incubator period, and as major committers
> > continue to be active, I expect it to grow even more in the future after
> > graduation.
> > So +1 for graduation.
> >
> > And +1 for Wonook to be the chair of the initial PMC, as he is very
> > passionate about Nemo and has been active in it.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Woo-Yeon
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 26, 2022 at 9:10 AM Byung-Gon Chun  wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Wonook,
> > >
> > > Thank you for sharing the process!
> > >
> > > I recommend Wonook to be the chair of the initial PMC.
> > > Wonook has been very active in the Nemo community.
> > > He has developed the main parts of Nemo. He has been our evangelist to
> > > introduce Nemo to various venues including a Beam summit.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Gon
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Oct 26, 2022 at 8:01 AM Won Wook SONG 
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > As suggested, let's broaden our discussion to the dev@ mailing
> thread.
> > > >
> > > > I've taken some time to look at the graduation process and found this
> > > link
> > > > <
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#graduating_to_a_top_level_project
> > > > >
> > > > and the procedures below.
> > > >
> > > >  1. [DISCUSS] thread for community input and to gauge consensus.
> During
> > > > this thread, the resolution for graduation is put in front of
> everyone,
> > > and
> > > > a chair is chosen, as is the initial PMC. My suggestion is to take
> the
> > > > existing PPMC and make them the initial PMC. That includes mentors.
> > > Assume
> > > > everyone wants in, and don’t be exclusionary. Who should be the
> chair?
> > > > That’s up to you guys and gals :) The thing there is to have someone
> > who
> > > > can submit and create a board report for the first 3 months, then
> > > quarterly
> > > > after, and to be the “eyes and ears of the board” in the community.
> > > >
> > > >  2. Once 1 is done (I usually leave it up for at least 72 hours), we
> > then
> > > > call a [VOTE] thread. This should be a community VOTE, on the dev
> list
> > > for
> > > > all to participate in.
> > > >
> > > >  3. Once 2 is done, proceed to general@incubator.a.o with a [VOTE]
> > > thread.
> > > > If we got at least 3 +1 IPMCs (hopefully from 2) already, we’re
> golden,
> > > but
> > > > looking for more IPMC consensus. If we didn’t get 3 +1 IPMC votes in
> 2,
> > > > we’re looking to get them here.
> > > >
> > > >  4. If 3 pass, we paste the resolution into next month’s board
> agenda,
> > > and
> > > > then if it passes at the board meeting we are on our way to a TLP and
> > > then
> > > > must execute these steps (usually the chair does it):
> > > >
> > http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#life-after-graduation
> > > >
> > > > According to 1, we need to choose a chair as the initial PMC, and
> after
> > > > that, we can put up a community VOTE for graduation.
> > > > Then, we should post a VOTE for the IPMCs with our community vote
> > > results,
> > > > and after that, we can submit the resolution to the board.
> > > >
> > > > We have several releases and I think we are ready to graduate, also
> > with
> > > > the maturity checklist
> > > > <
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1qQsjqZl9gJQz85-2MGjNWqNB58SiXPWNocEkxP7Vy0c/edit
> > > > >
> > > > in
> > > > our mind. Please let us know your opinions on choosing our chair 😀
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Wonook
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 2022년 10월 21일 (금) 오후 11:38, Byung-Gon Chun 님이 작성:
> > > >
> > > > > Wonook,
> > > > >
> > > > > Could you take a look at the guide doc and follow the process?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#graduating_to_a_top_level_project
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks!
> > > > > -Gon
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, Oct 21, 2022 at 5:01 PM Byung-Gon Chun 
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> Thanks for checking it out. nemo is ready to graduate.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Moving Justin to bcc.
> > > > >> This thread could be on dev@, rather than private@.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On Fri, Oct 21, 2022 at 4:56 PM Won Wook SONG 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> I've checked the list, and I think we are ready to go according
> to
> > > the
> > > > >>> maturity list!

Re: [DISCUSS] Project graduation?

[Yunseong Lee]

Hi Wonwook,
Thanks for initiating the graduation process!

I agree that the project is ready to graduate, and
Wonwook is the best candidate to be the chair of PMCs. :)

Regards,
Yunseong

On Mon, Oct 31, 2022 at 10:39 PM Woo-Yeon Lee  wrote:

> As a PPMC member of Nemo, I am happy that we are talking about Nemo's
> graduation :)
>
> As Justin reminded us, during our incubation period, we have been steadily
> working hard on project development and release.
> Nemo has grown a lot during the incubator period, and as major committers
> continue to be active, I expect it to grow even more in the future after
> graduation.
> So +1 for graduation.
>
> And +1 for Wonook to be the chair of the initial PMC, as he is very
> passionate about Nemo and has been active in it.
>
> Cheers,
> Woo-Yeon
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 26, 2022 at 9:10 AM Byung-Gon Chun  wrote:
>
> > Hi Wonook,
> >
> > Thank you for sharing the process!
> >
> > I recommend Wonook to be the chair of the initial PMC.
> > Wonook has been very active in the Nemo community.
> > He has developed the main parts of Nemo. He has been our evangelist to
> > introduce Nemo to various venues including a Beam summit.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Gon
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 26, 2022 at 8:01 AM Won Wook SONG  wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > As suggested, let's broaden our discussion to the dev@ mailing thread.
> > >
> > > I've taken some time to look at the graduation process and found this
> > link
> > > <
> > >
> >
> https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#graduating_to_a_top_level_project
> > > >
> > > and the procedures below.
> > >
> > >  1. [DISCUSS] thread for community input and to gauge consensus. During
> > > this thread, the resolution for graduation is put in front of everyone,
> > and
> > > a chair is chosen, as is the initial PMC. My suggestion is to take the
> > > existing PPMC and make them the initial PMC. That includes mentors.
> > Assume
> > > everyone wants in, and don’t be exclusionary. Who should be the chair?
> > > That’s up to you guys and gals :) The thing there is to have someone
> who
> > > can submit and create a board report for the first 3 months, then
> > quarterly
> > > after, and to be the “eyes and ears of the board” in the community.
> > >
> > >  2. Once 1 is done (I usually leave it up for at least 72 hours), we
> then
> > > call a [VOTE] thread. This should be a community VOTE, on the dev list
> > for
> > > all to participate in.
> > >
> > >  3. Once 2 is done, proceed to general@incubator.a.o with a [VOTE]
> > thread.
> > > If we got at least 3 +1 IPMCs (hopefully from 2) already, we’re golden,
> > but
> > > looking for more IPMC consensus. If we didn’t get 3 +1 IPMC votes in 2,
> > > we’re looking to get them here.
> > >
> > >  4. If 3 pass, we paste the resolution into next month’s board agenda,
> > and
> > > then if it passes at the board meeting we are on our way to a TLP and
> > then
> > > must execute these steps (usually the chair does it):
> > >
> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#life-after-graduation
> > >
> > > According to 1, we need to choose a chair as the initial PMC, and after
> > > that, we can put up a community VOTE for graduation.
> > > Then, we should post a VOTE for the IPMCs with our community vote
> > results,
> > > and after that, we can submit the resolution to the board.
> > >
> > > We have several releases and I think we are ready to graduate, also
> with
> > > the maturity checklist
> > > <
> > >
> >
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1qQsjqZl9gJQz85-2MGjNWqNB58SiXPWNocEkxP7Vy0c/edit
> > > >
> > > in
> > > our mind. Please let us know your opinions on choosing our chair 😀
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Wonook
> > >
> > >
> > > 2022년 10월 21일 (금) 오후 11:38, Byung-Gon Chun 님이 작성:
> > >
> > > > Wonook,
> > > >
> > > > Could you take a look at the guide doc and follow the process?
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#graduating_to_a_top_level_project
> > > >
> > > > Thanks!
> > > > -Gon
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Oct 21, 2022 at 5:01 PM Byung-Gon Chun 
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Thanks for checking it out. nemo is ready to graduate.
> > > >>
> > > >> Moving Justin to bcc.
> > > >> This thread could be on dev@, rather than private@.
> > > >>
> > > >> On Fri, Oct 21, 2022 at 4:56 PM Won Wook SONG 
> > > wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> I've checked the list, and I think we are ready to go according to
> > the
> > > >>> maturity list!
> > > >>> There's a few updates that I think I could make (ex. update the
> docs
> > > and
> > > >>> instructions). I'll do that soon. Can you instruct us on where to
> go
> > > from
> > > >>> here?
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Thanks,
> > > >>> Wonook
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> 2022년 10월 20일 (목) 오후 1:36, Byung-Gon Chun 님이 작성:
> > > >>>
> > >  Wonook,
> > > 
> > >  Thank you for following up.
> > > 
> > >  We have a checklist in the following doc.
> > > 
> > > 
> > >
> >
> https://docs.goog

Re: [DISCUSS] Project graduation?

[Woo-Yeon Lee]

As a PPMC member of Nemo, I am happy that we are talking about Nemo's
graduation :)

As Justin reminded us, during our incubation period, we have been steadily
working hard on project development and release.
Nemo has grown a lot during the incubator period, and as major committers
continue to be active, I expect it to grow even more in the future after
graduation.
So +1 for graduation.

And +1 for Wonook to be the chair of the initial PMC, as he is very
passionate about Nemo and has been active in it.

Cheers,
Woo-Yeon


On Wed, Oct 26, 2022 at 9:10 AM Byung-Gon Chun  wrote:

> Hi Wonook,
>
> Thank you for sharing the process!
>
> I recommend Wonook to be the chair of the initial PMC.
> Wonook has been very active in the Nemo community.
> He has developed the main parts of Nemo. He has been our evangelist to
> introduce Nemo to various venues including a Beam summit.
>
> Cheers,
> Gon
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 26, 2022 at 8:01 AM Won Wook SONG  wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > As suggested, let's broaden our discussion to the dev@ mailing thread.
> >
> > I've taken some time to look at the graduation process and found this
> link
> > <
> >
> https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#graduating_to_a_top_level_project
> > >
> > and the procedures below.
> >
> >  1. [DISCUSS] thread for community input and to gauge consensus. During
> > this thread, the resolution for graduation is put in front of everyone,
> and
> > a chair is chosen, as is the initial PMC. My suggestion is to take the
> > existing PPMC and make them the initial PMC. That includes mentors.
> Assume
> > everyone wants in, and don’t be exclusionary. Who should be the chair?
> > That’s up to you guys and gals :) The thing there is to have someone who
> > can submit and create a board report for the first 3 months, then
> quarterly
> > after, and to be the “eyes and ears of the board” in the community.
> >
> >  2. Once 1 is done (I usually leave it up for at least 72 hours), we then
> > call a [VOTE] thread. This should be a community VOTE, on the dev list
> for
> > all to participate in.
> >
> >  3. Once 2 is done, proceed to general@incubator.a.o with a [VOTE]
> thread.
> > If we got at least 3 +1 IPMCs (hopefully from 2) already, we’re golden,
> but
> > looking for more IPMC consensus. If we didn’t get 3 +1 IPMC votes in 2,
> > we’re looking to get them here.
> >
> >  4. If 3 pass, we paste the resolution into next month’s board agenda,
> and
> > then if it passes at the board meeting we are on our way to a TLP and
> then
> > must execute these steps (usually the chair does it):
> > http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#life-after-graduation
> >
> > According to 1, we need to choose a chair as the initial PMC, and after
> > that, we can put up a community VOTE for graduation.
> > Then, we should post a VOTE for the IPMCs with our community vote
> results,
> > and after that, we can submit the resolution to the board.
> >
> > We have several releases and I think we are ready to graduate, also with
> > the maturity checklist
> > <
> >
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1qQsjqZl9gJQz85-2MGjNWqNB58SiXPWNocEkxP7Vy0c/edit
> > >
> > in
> > our mind. Please let us know your opinions on choosing our chair 😀
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Wonook
> >
> >
> > 2022년 10월 21일 (금) 오후 11:38, Byung-Gon Chun 님이 작성:
> >
> > > Wonook,
> > >
> > > Could you take a look at the guide doc and follow the process?
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#graduating_to_a_top_level_project
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > > -Gon
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Oct 21, 2022 at 5:01 PM Byung-Gon Chun 
> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Thanks for checking it out. nemo is ready to graduate.
> > >>
> > >> Moving Justin to bcc.
> > >> This thread could be on dev@, rather than private@.
> > >>
> > >> On Fri, Oct 21, 2022 at 4:56 PM Won Wook SONG 
> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> I've checked the list, and I think we are ready to go according to
> the
> > >>> maturity list!
> > >>> There's a few updates that I think I could make (ex. update the docs
> > and
> > >>> instructions). I'll do that soon. Can you instruct us on where to go
> > from
> > >>> here?
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks,
> > >>> Wonook
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> 2022년 10월 20일 (목) 오후 1:36, Byung-Gon Chun 님이 작성:
> > >>>
> >  Wonook,
> > 
> >  Thank you for following up.
> > 
> >  We have a checklist in the following doc.
> > 
> > 
> >
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1qQsjqZl9gJQz85-2MGjNWqNB58SiXPWNocEkxP7Vy0c
> > 
> >  Could you check it to see what's missing?
> > 
> >  I agree with JB that the project is ready to graduate.
> > 
> >  Best,
> >  Gon
> > 
> > 
> >  On Thu, Oct 20, 2022 at 8:34 AM Won Wook SONG 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > > Hi, I'm resending the email just in case Justin's not subscribed to
> > > our private mailing list.
> > >
> > > @jmcl...@apache.org  Please refer to the email
> > > thread below if you haven't 

Re: [DISCUSS] Project graduation?

[Byung-Gon Chun]

Hi Wonook,

Thank you for sharing the process!

I recommend Wonook to be the chair of the initial PMC.
Wonook has been very active in the Nemo community.
He has developed the main parts of Nemo. He has been our evangelist to
introduce Nemo to various venues including a Beam summit.

Cheers,
Gon


On Wed, Oct 26, 2022 at 8:01 AM Won Wook SONG  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> As suggested, let's broaden our discussion to the dev@ mailing thread.
>
> I've taken some time to look at the graduation process and found this link
> <
> https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#graduating_to_a_top_level_project
> >
> and the procedures below.
>
>  1. [DISCUSS] thread for community input and to gauge consensus. During
> this thread, the resolution for graduation is put in front of everyone, and
> a chair is chosen, as is the initial PMC. My suggestion is to take the
> existing PPMC and make them the initial PMC. That includes mentors. Assume
> everyone wants in, and don’t be exclusionary. Who should be the chair?
> That’s up to you guys and gals :) The thing there is to have someone who
> can submit and create a board report for the first 3 months, then quarterly
> after, and to be the “eyes and ears of the board” in the community.
>
>  2. Once 1 is done (I usually leave it up for at least 72 hours), we then
> call a [VOTE] thread. This should be a community VOTE, on the dev list for
> all to participate in.
>
>  3. Once 2 is done, proceed to general@incubator.a.o with a [VOTE] thread.
> If we got at least 3 +1 IPMCs (hopefully from 2) already, we’re golden, but
> looking for more IPMC consensus. If we didn’t get 3 +1 IPMC votes in 2,
> we’re looking to get them here.
>
>  4. If 3 pass, we paste the resolution into next month’s board agenda, and
> then if it passes at the board meeting we are on our way to a TLP and then
> must execute these steps (usually the chair does it):
> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#life-after-graduation
>
> According to 1, we need to choose a chair as the initial PMC, and after
> that, we can put up a community VOTE for graduation.
> Then, we should post a VOTE for the IPMCs with our community vote results,
> and after that, we can submit the resolution to the board.
>
> We have several releases and I think we are ready to graduate, also with
> the maturity checklist
> <
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1qQsjqZl9gJQz85-2MGjNWqNB58SiXPWNocEkxP7Vy0c/edit
> >
> in
> our mind. Please let us know your opinions on choosing our chair 😀
>
> Thanks,
>
> Wonook
>
>
> 2022년 10월 21일 (금) 오후 11:38, Byung-Gon Chun 님이 작성:
>
> > Wonook,
> >
> > Could you take a look at the guide doc and follow the process?
> >
> >
> https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#graduating_to_a_top_level_project
> >
> > Thanks!
> > -Gon
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 21, 2022 at 5:01 PM Byung-Gon Chun  wrote:
> >
> >> Thanks for checking it out. nemo is ready to graduate.
> >>
> >> Moving Justin to bcc.
> >> This thread could be on dev@, rather than private@.
> >>
> >> On Fri, Oct 21, 2022 at 4:56 PM Won Wook SONG 
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I've checked the list, and I think we are ready to go according to the
> >>> maturity list!
> >>> There's a few updates that I think I could make (ex. update the docs
> and
> >>> instructions). I'll do that soon. Can you instruct us on where to go
> from
> >>> here?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Wonook
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> 2022년 10월 20일 (목) 오후 1:36, Byung-Gon Chun 님이 작성:
> >>>
>  Wonook,
> 
>  Thank you for following up.
> 
>  We have a checklist in the following doc.
> 
> 
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1qQsjqZl9gJQz85-2MGjNWqNB58SiXPWNocEkxP7Vy0c
> 
>  Could you check it to see what's missing?
> 
>  I agree with JB that the project is ready to graduate.
> 
>  Best,
>  Gon
> 
> 
>  On Thu, Oct 20, 2022 at 8:34 AM Won Wook SONG 
>  wrote:
> 
> > Hi, I'm resending the email just in case Justin's not subscribed to
> > our private mailing list.
> >
> > @jmcl...@apache.org  Please refer to the email
> > thread below if you haven't yet so!
> >
> > Best,
> > Wonook
> >
> >
> > 2022년 10월 20일 (목) 오전 8:28, Won Wook SONG 님이 작성:
> >
> >> I agree. If there are some procedures or guides that are required
> for
> >> graduation, please instruct us. I'll try to process them as soon as
> >> possible.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Wonook
> >>
> >>
> >> 2022년 10월 19일 (수) 오후 12:52, Jean-Baptiste Onofré  >님이
> >> 작성:
> >>
> >>> Hi Justin,
> >>>
> >>> I think the project is ready to graduate. I asked in previous
> reports
> >>> to provide the maturity model matrix to check if we are good to go.
> >>>
> >>> Regards
> >>> JB
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Oct 18, 2022 at 11:56 PM Justin Mclean  >
> >>> wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > Hi,
> >>> >
> >>> > This project has spent a while in the Incubator. S