Re: Keeping github fork up to date

[Lars Bruun-Hansen]

As far as I know it cannot be done from the GitHub UI. You need to do
it via your own local copy (of your fork).

Have a look in the NetBeans wiki:

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=74681408#SubmittingPullRequestonApacheNetBeans-KeepingyourownforkinsyncwithApacheGitHubrepo

Once you get the hang of it is it takes less than 1 min. The problem
is that this is something you do infrequently so you tend to forget
the steps involved. :-)

On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 8:06 AM Jan Lahoda  wrote:
>
> Not sure what the best practices are, but what I do:
> -I have two remotes configured for my local clone, "apache/netbeans" (e.g.
> named "apache" or "origin") and "jlahoda/netbeans" (e.g. named "github") -
> see "git remote", in particular "git remote add  "
> -I update my local master from apache/netbeans (e.g. git checkout master &&
> git pull apache master).
> -when I want to start a feature branch, I update my local master, and
> branch from it, and then (after commit, etc.) simply push the branch to my
> github repository. Updating the master on my github fork is not necessary
> for this to work. Pull requests from the feature branches should work even
> if your master is not updated. (AFAIK, a branch in git is only a named
> pointer to a changeset, so "master" is just a "symlink" to a changeset.
> Pushing a branch will push all necessary changesets, so updating the master
> "symlink" is not necessary.)
>
> If I want to sync the master branch on my github with apache/netbeans, I
> simply update my local master and then push the master to my github (e.g.
> git push github master).
>
> Alternatively, you can create a pull request from master on apache/netbeans
> into the master on your fork, but feels like more manual work that just
> pull and push.
>
> Jan
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 12:17 AM Ernie Rael  wrote:
>
> > I've got a fork from a couple months ago. I want to use it again and
> > there's lot's of commits. I've been pulling from upstream, now I want to
> > look at doing some more pull requests. Is there a way with the github
> > web interface to ask it to pull from master, or otherwise update to master?
> >
> > If not, is it best practice to delete and recreate the fork. Or push
> > from my local to the fork?
> >
> > -ernie
> >
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Re: Keeping github fork up to date

[Jan Lahoda]

Not sure what the best practices are, but what I do:
-I have two remotes configured for my local clone, "apache/netbeans" (e.g.
named "apache" or "origin") and "jlahoda/netbeans" (e.g. named "github") -
see "git remote", in particular "git remote add  "
-I update my local master from apache/netbeans (e.g. git checkout master &&
git pull apache master).
-when I want to start a feature branch, I update my local master, and
branch from it, and then (after commit, etc.) simply push the branch to my
github repository. Updating the master on my github fork is not necessary
for this to work. Pull requests from the feature branches should work even
if your master is not updated. (AFAIK, a branch in git is only a named
pointer to a changeset, so "master" is just a "symlink" to a changeset.
Pushing a branch will push all necessary changesets, so updating the master
"symlink" is not necessary.)

If I want to sync the master branch on my github with apache/netbeans, I
simply update my local master and then push the master to my github (e.g.
git push github master).

Alternatively, you can create a pull request from master on apache/netbeans
into the master on your fork, but feels like more manual work that just
pull and push.

Jan


On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 12:17 AM Ernie Rael  wrote:

> I've got a fork from a couple months ago. I want to use it again and
> there's lot's of commits. I've been pulling from upstream, now I want to
> look at doing some more pull requests. Is there a way with the github
> web interface to ask it to pull from master, or otherwise update to master?
>
> If not, is it best practice to delete and recreate the fork. Or push
> from my local to the fork?
>
> -ernie
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Keeping github fork up to date

[Ernie Rael]

I've got a fork from a couple months ago. I want to use it again and 
there's lot's of commits. I've been pulling from upstream, now I want to 
look at doing some more pull requests. Is there a way with the github 
web interface to ask it to pull from master, or otherwise update to master?


If not, is it best practice to delete and recreate the fork. Or push 
from my local to the fork?


-ernie


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Re: Remove outdated look and feels CDE/Motif and Windows Classic?

[antonio]

Hi all,

What is the advantage of removing these look and feels? Also, why are 
they "outdated"?


Thanks,
Antonio

El 7/1/20 a las 17:19, Karl Tauber escribió:

Hello all,

in NetBeans 11.3 we have 4 new look and feels (Dark Metal, Dark Nimbus, 
FlatLaf Dark and FlatLaf Light). On Windows there are now 9 LaFs in the 
LaF combobox in the Options dialog.


Should we reduce the number of supported LaFs a little bit and remove 
the outdated CDE/Motif and "Windows Classic" LaFs?


Isn't Motif dead since nearly 20 years?
And "Windows Classic" is Windows 95 style (as far as I remember)...
Can't imagine that anybody is using them...


The removal could be done in two steps:
   1. remove them from the LaF combobox, which is easy
   2. remove code related to the removed LaFs,
  which is maybe more work and could be done later


Karl

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Re: Any objections against turning netbeans.org OFF?

[Ernie Rael]

On 1/3/2020 1:05 AM, Jiří Kovalský wrote:

Hi Antonio,

   in my opinion the new Plugin Portal 3.0 [1] is ready for usage


I believe that until [NETBEANS-3569] is resolved, the portal is not 
ready for general usage.


It's fine for creating the update center catalog, but not for user 
browsing or downloading.


-ernie

[NETBEANS-3569] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-3569

 unsuitable/failed-verification plugin not indicated as such by 
plugin portal



and if anyone would like to access the old plugins s/he can use the 
snapshot [2] hosted on Emilian's private VM.


[1] http://netbeans-vm.apache.org/pluginportal/
[2] 
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Where+to+download+plugins+for+NetBeans+10.0+and+earlier


-Jirka

Dne 02. 01. 20 v 19:03 antonio napsal(a):


Hi Jirka,

There's an open issue here 
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__issues.apache.org_jira_browse_INFRA-2D17245-3FfocusedCommentId-3D16876231-26page-3Dcom.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels-253Acomment-2Dtabpanel-23comment-2D16876231=DwIDBA=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE=8_Pz0x0SKeT5e3IehhQKCbQ2xl3tz40jnCU133NrdP4=72SLBuSzP0_CuN7qTUrzwH7aLpJT_Y8-1iiDGVYwxNc=B0m3fYY_FOJ17cE4dm9zTb8IiDQ0AvbFt5IaLPe8lBg= 

It seems the plugin portal will stop working. Don't know if the new 
plugin portal is a substitute.


Cheers,
Antonio

El 2/1/20 a las 16:56, Jiří Kovalský escribió:

Hello folks,

    as many of you know we have successfully matured to a top level 
Apache project in 2019. How about turning netbeans.org domain in 2020?


    Can we identify parts which still need to be migrated? Is anyone 
aware of something which prevents decommissioning of Oracle 
infrastructure hosting the legacy services?


Are there any Mercurial repositories [1] worth their backup before 
we turn the servers off or we are ready?


[1] 
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__hg.netbeans.org=DwIDBA=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE=8_Pz0x0SKeT5e3IehhQKCbQ2xl3tz40jnCU133NrdP4=72SLBuSzP0_CuN7qTUrzwH7aLpJT_Y8-1iiDGVYwxNc=gil4WTW5pj9CeCyxwrfhlTSaoQ2ivvww-rMgjfqITAw= 


-Jirka

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Re: Remove (experimental) from FlatLaf Dark

[Karl Tauber]

+1


I'm already working on 2., 3. and on NETBEANS-3657.
PRs are coming soon...


You can change the progress bar height in FlatLaf.properties.
The default is:
  ProgressBar.horizontalSize=146,4

Try whether this is better:
  ProgressBar.horizontalSize=146,6


I also like to improve the editor/view tabs to address Eirik's comments 
in PR 1771. And look at the other dark LaFs to find colors that need 
fixes in FlatLaf.



Karl


On 07.01.2020 18:07, Laszlo Kishalmi wrote:

Dear all, Karl,

Feature freeze is closing for 11.3 (next week). Thanks to Karl and other 
active community members, FlatLaf Dark has progressed a lot and it is a 
completely usable modern dark Laf for NetBeans. It can make the Darcula 
plugin (AFAIK, the most downloaded NetBeans plugin from the plugin 
portal) obsolete. I see only 4 fixable issues:


1. Form designer: https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pull/1846

2. The versioning annotations and diff colors needs some adjustments to 
the dark theme.


3. The border color of the search bar does not follow the LaF palette. I 
guess that's just one line in a property file change.


4. Unbounded progress bar height is really small. (I do not know that it 
is by design, but for me it's visually confusing)


Does anybody see anything else, before we could remove the 
(experimental) adjective from this LaF?


BTW FlatLaf Light looks good as well it just missing some coloring 
review and perhaps a fitting Editor Color theme.



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Re: Remove outdated look and feels CDE/Motif and Windows Classic?

[Karl Tauber]

> Shall I create a PR for that,

Yes, that would be great.

Karl


On 07.01.2020 17:37, Laszlo Kishalmi wrote:
Just checked the CDE/Motif is available on Linux as well. It doesn't 
look really bad, maybe it brings up some sweet memories of my Solaris 
days in early 2000's, however it is definitely not supported by some of 
our components.


+1 for removing them from the combo box. Shall I create a PR for that, 
or you already have something for point 1?


On 1/7/20 8:19 AM, Karl Tauber wrote:

Hello all,

in NetBeans 11.3 we have 4 new look and feels (Dark Metal, Dark 
Nimbus, FlatLaf Dark and FlatLaf Light). On Windows there are now 9 
LaFs in the LaF combobox in the Options dialog.


Should we reduce the number of supported LaFs a little bit and remove 
the outdated CDE/Motif and "Windows Classic" LaFs?


Isn't Motif dead since nearly 20 years?
And "Windows Classic" is Windows 95 style (as far as I remember)...
Can't imagine that anybody is using them...


The removal could be done in two steps:
  1. remove them from the LaF combobox, which is easy
  2. remove code related to the removed LaFs,
 which is maybe more work and could be done later


Karl

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Remove (experimental) from FlatLaf Dark

[Laszlo Kishalmi]

Dear all, Karl,

Feature freeze is closing for 11.3 (next week). Thanks to Karl and other 
active community members, FlatLaf Dark has progressed a lot and it is a 
completely usable modern dark Laf for NetBeans. It can make the Darcula 
plugin (AFAIK, the most downloaded NetBeans plugin from the plugin 
portal) obsolete. I see only 4 fixable issues:


1. Form designer: https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pull/1846

2. The versioning annotations and diff colors needs some adjustments to 
the dark theme.


3. The border color of the search bar does not follow the LaF palette. I 
guess that's just one line in a property file change.


4. Unbounded progress bar height is really small. (I do not know that it 
is by design, but for me it's visually confusing)


Does anybody see anything else, before we could remove the 
(experimental) adjective from this LaF?


BTW FlatLaf Light looks good as well it just missing some coloring 
review and perhaps a fitting Editor Color theme.



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Re: Remove outdated look and feels CDE/Motif and Windows Classic?

[Laszlo Kishalmi]

Just checked the CDE/Motif is available on Linux as well. It doesn't 
look really bad, maybe it brings up some sweet memories of my Solaris 
days in early 2000's, however it is definitely not supported by some of 
our components.


+1 for removing them from the combo box. Shall I create a PR for that, 
or you already have something for point 1?


On 1/7/20 8:19 AM, Karl Tauber wrote:

Hello all,

in NetBeans 11.3 we have 4 new look and feels (Dark Metal, Dark 
Nimbus, FlatLaf Dark and FlatLaf Light). On Windows there are now 9 
LaFs in the LaF combobox in the Options dialog.


Should we reduce the number of supported LaFs a little bit and remove 
the outdated CDE/Motif and "Windows Classic" LaFs?


Isn't Motif dead since nearly 20 years?
And "Windows Classic" is Windows 95 style (as far as I remember)...
Can't imagine that anybody is using them...


The removal could be done in two steps:
  1. remove them from the LaF combobox, which is easy
  2. remove code related to the removed LaFs,
 which is maybe more work and could be done later


Karl

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web common api?

[Peter Nabbefeld]

Hello,

module web.common includes an "api" folder, but this isn't publicly
available. Instead, it has already 73 "friends". Wouldn't it make sense
to review the API and make it publicly available?

Kind regards,
Peter



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Remove outdated look and feels CDE/Motif and Windows Classic?

[Karl Tauber]

Hello all,

in NetBeans 11.3 we have 4 new look and feels (Dark Metal, Dark Nimbus, 
FlatLaf Dark and FlatLaf Light). On Windows there are now 9 LaFs in the 
LaF combobox in the Options dialog.


Should we reduce the number of supported LaFs a little bit and remove 
the outdated CDE/Motif and "Windows Classic" LaFs?


Isn't Motif dead since nearly 20 years?
And "Windows Classic" is Windows 95 style (as far as I remember)...
Can't imagine that anybody is using them...


The removal could be done in two steps:
  1. remove them from the LaF combobox, which is easy
  2. remove code related to the removed LaFs,
 which is maybe more work and could be done later


Karl

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Re: [Lazy Consensus] Shifting release timeline by a month for Apache NetBeans 11.3 and upcoming

[Laszlo Kishalmi]

I agree with the one month shift, if that counts.

I guess it does mean that the feature freeze for 11.3 is on next week.

On 1/7/20 6:57 AM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:

Excellent progress and I think we're in sync on this.

Gj

On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 11:26 AM Neil C Smith  wrote:


On Tue, 7 Jan 2020, 14:17 Eric Barboni,  wrote:


  I will update, just no more sure but this is only for .3 part,
others .0 .1 .2 remains at the same schedule.


It's for every release, or it'll be impossible!

I assume you're RM'ing 11.3 then? We could do with making sure other
aspects of the wiki are up to date too. I'll have a look next week and
touch base with you on this.

Best wishes,

Neil



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Re: [Lazy Consensus] Shifting release timeline by a month for Apache NetBeans 11.3 and upcoming

[Geertjan Wielenga]

Excellent progress and I think we're in sync on this.

Gj

On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 11:26 AM Neil C Smith  wrote:

> On Tue, 7 Jan 2020, 14:17 Eric Barboni,  wrote:
>
> >  I will update, just no more sure but this is only for .3 part,
> > others .0 .1 .2 remains at the same schedule.
> >
>
> It's for every release, or it'll be impossible!
>
> I assume you're RM'ing 11.3 then? We could do with making sure other
> aspects of the wiki are up to date too. I'll have a look next week and
> touch base with you on this.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Neil
>
> >
>

Re: [Lazy Consensus] Shifting release timeline by a month for Apache NetBeans 11.3 and upcoming

[Neil C Smith]

On Tue, 7 Jan 2020, 14:17 Eric Barboni,  wrote:

>  I will update, just no more sure but this is only for .3 part,
> others .0 .1 .2 remains at the same schedule.
>

It's for every release, or it'll be impossible!

I assume you're RM'ing 11.3 then? We could do with making sure other
aspects of the wiki are up to date too. I'll have a look next week and
touch base with you on this.

Best wishes,

Neil

>

RE: [Lazy Consensus] Shifting release timeline by a month for Apache NetBeans 11.3 and upcoming

[Eric Barboni]

Hi,
 I will update, just no more sure but this is only for .3 part, others 
.0 .1 .2 remains at the same schedule.

Best Regards
Eric

And Happy new year to all Apache NetBeans community

-Message d'origine-
De : Geertjan Wielenga  
Envoyé : mardi 7 janvier 2020 12:27
À : dev 
Objet : Re: [Lazy Consensus] Shifting release timeline by a month for Apache 
NetBeans 11.3 and upcoming

Hi Eric,

Can you update this to reflect the updated release timeline?

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Release+Schedule

Thanks,

Gj

On Mon, Dec 9, 2019 at 7:54 AM Eric Barboni  wrote:

> I start a lazy consensus thread to make sure the shifting of release 
> by a month is ok for everybody.
>
>
>
> --
>
> If you object the shift, you must accept to be Release Manager 
> yourself in the old schedule.
>
> I would be pleased to act as a RM 11.3 if timeline is shifted, but 
> others may volunters too for this new timeline.
>
> --
>
>
>
> Following Apache lazy consensus
> (https://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html#LazyConsensus
> ), i.e.,
>
> no voting or responses of any kind are needed, except if you object. 
> If no one objects within 72 hours, we'll assume lazy consensus and 
> implement the above proposal.
>
>
>
> Best Regards
>
>
>
> Eric
>
>
>
>
>
>


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Re: [Lazy Consensus] Shifting release timeline by a month for Apache NetBeans 11.3 and upcoming

[Geertjan Wielenga]

Hi Eric,

Can you update this to reflect the updated release timeline?

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Release+Schedule

Thanks,

Gj

On Mon, Dec 9, 2019 at 7:54 AM Eric Barboni  wrote:

> I start a lazy consensus thread to make sure the shifting of release by a
> month is ok for everybody.
>
>
>
> --
>
> If you object the shift, you must accept to be Release Manager yourself in
> the old schedule.
>
> I would be pleased to act as a RM 11.3 if timeline is shifted, but others
> may volunters too for this new timeline.
>
> --
>
>
>
> Following Apache lazy consensus
> (https://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html#LazyConsensus
> ), i.e.,
>
> no voting or responses of any kind are needed, except if you object. If no
> one objects within 72 hours, we'll assume lazy consensus and implement the
> above proposal.
>
>
>
> Best Regards
>
>
>
> Eric
>
>
>
>
>
>