RE: NetBeans Blog vs Start Page
Many thanks for feedback, Hopefuly https://github.com/apache/netbeans-website/pull/671 will allow to have a favicon. We try to fix some redirect also. Will later add the former news. Best Regards Eric -Message d'origine- De : Pyro MX Envoyé : mardi 1 août 2023 02:37 À : dev@netbeans.apache.org; Eric Barboni Objet : Re: NetBeans Blog vs Start Page Tested the Atom feed on my end and it works OOTB in Thunderbird. Some minor things I noticed: * W3 validator reports that feed item IDs must be complete URIs (https://validator.w3.org/feed/check.cgi?url=https%3A%2F%2Fnetbeans.apache.org%2Fblogs%2Fatom) * Feed icon defaults to domain's favicon (https://netbeans.apache.org/favicon.ico). Right now this is the Apache feather, would be nice if it was the NetBeans cube to differentiate it from the other feeds in the reader. Otherwise, the Atom feed element may provide an icon element to point to specifically point to an icon: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc4287.html#section-4.1.1 Many thanks for bringing the feed back online! Le 2023-07-26 à 12 h 41, Eric Barboni a écrit : > Hi, a bit late but, redirection are in place. > Blogs entry 2023 - 2021 are back online. > > The new web view is like that: > https://netbeans.apache.org/blogs/index.html > Maybe some css tuning may be cool, or structural calendar. (some menu > item are too big) > > The feed looks like that > https://netbeans.apache.org/blogs/atom > > I'm not an expert of feed so maybe people may find missing elements that > matters. > > Feel free to comment. > Best Regards > Eric > -Message d'origine- > De : Michael Bien > Envoyé : lundi 17 juillet 2023 18:06 > À : dev@netbeans.apache.org; Laszlo Kishalmi > Objet : Re: NetBeans Blog vs Start Page > > On 17.07.23 16:45, Michael Bien wrote: >> Hi Laszlo, >> >> we could investigate if it could handle the atom protocol and switch >> it to: >> https://github.com/apache/netbeans/releases.atom > > > https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pull/6211 > > > -mbien > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > > > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
Re: NetBeans Blog vs Start Page
Tested the Atom feed on my end and it works OOTB in Thunderbird. Some minor things I noticed: * W3 validator reports that feed item IDs must be complete URIs (https://validator.w3.org/feed/check.cgi?url=https%3A%2F%2Fnetbeans.apache.org%2Fblogs%2Fatom) * Feed icon defaults to domain's favicon (https://netbeans.apache.org/favicon.ico). Right now this is the Apache feather, would be nice if it was the NetBeans cube to differentiate it from the other feeds in the reader. Otherwise, the Atom feed element may provide an icon element to point to specifically point to an icon: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc4287.html#section-4.1.1 Many thanks for bringing the feed back online! Le 2023-07-26 à 12 h 41, Eric Barboni a écrit : Hi, a bit late but, redirection are in place. Blogs entry 2023 - 2021 are back online. The new web view is like that: https://netbeans.apache.org/blogs/index.html Maybe some css tuning may be cool, or structural calendar. (some menu item are too big) The feed looks like that https://netbeans.apache.org/blogs/atom I'm not an expert of feed so maybe people may find missing elements that matters. Feel free to comment. Best Regards Eric -Message d'origine- De : Michael Bien Envoyé : lundi 17 juillet 2023 18:06 À : dev@netbeans.apache.org; Laszlo Kishalmi Objet : Re: NetBeans Blog vs Start Page On 17.07.23 16:45, Michael Bien wrote: Hi Laszlo, we could investigate if it could handle the atom protocol and switch it to: https://github.com/apache/netbeans/releases.atom https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pull/6211 -mbien - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
RE: NetBeans Blog vs Start Page
Hi, a bit late but, redirection are in place. Blogs entry 2023 - 2021 are back online. The new web view is like that: https://netbeans.apache.org/blogs/index.html Maybe some css tuning may be cool, or structural calendar. (some menu item are too big) The feed looks like that https://netbeans.apache.org/blogs/atom I'm not an expert of feed so maybe people may find missing elements that matters. Feel free to comment. Best Regards Eric -Message d'origine- De : Michael Bien Envoyé : lundi 17 juillet 2023 18:06 À : dev@netbeans.apache.org; Laszlo Kishalmi Objet : Re: NetBeans Blog vs Start Page On 17.07.23 16:45, Michael Bien wrote: > Hi Laszlo, > > we could investigate if it could handle the atom protocol and switch > it to: > https://github.com/apache/netbeans/releases.atom https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pull/6211 -mbien - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
Re: NetBeans Blog vs Start Page
On 17.07.23 16:45, Michael Bien wrote: Hi Laszlo, we could investigate if it could handle the atom protocol and switch it to: https://github.com/apache/netbeans/releases.atom https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pull/6211 -mbien - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
Re: NetBeans Blog vs Start Page
On Mon, 17 Jul 2023 at 15:54, Michael Bien wrote: > but there is a higher level issue, essentially asking if NB will > continue to have some form of a dev blog or not: > https://github.com/apache/netbeans/issues/6200 And a second higher level issue, should it continue to use the Start Page at all? I keep trying to find some time to have a look at that and https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pull/5591 and ... to see if we could / should replace the current start page. It don't look great! :-) Rethinking that as some sort of dashboard API in the platform might be good. I'm sure others, including me, have implemented things like that for platform applications. Having a good think about what we should put in front of IDE users on startup, for the first run and after that would be useful. Because I think the current Start Page gives a terrible first impression. Best wishes, Neil - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
Re: NetBeans Blog vs Start Page
Hi Laszlo, we could investigate if it could handle the atom protocol and switch it to: https://github.com/apache/netbeans/releases.atom but there is a higher level issue, essentially asking if NB will continue to have some form of a dev blog or not: https://github.com/apache/netbeans/issues/6200 I am still using roller for my personal dev blog (where I rarely post anything these days), but the editor is a bit old fashioned and blog aggregation is a risky endeavor so I do understand why apache turned their roller instance + blog aggregator off. (full disclosure: i am a roller contributor who ended up getting PMC'ed at some point) best regards, michael On 17.07.23 16:23, Laszlo Kishalmi wrote: Dear all, Apache has discontinued its blog (roller) service. The RSS feed of that blog were used to feed the "What's New" section of the Start Page. Shall we replace that with something else or, just remove that section? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
