Re: NetBeans 9.0 internationalized edition

[Sven Reimers]

Wow.. this would be really great ..

-Sven

Geertjan Wielenga  schrieb am
Do., 2. Aug. 2018, 21:41:

> The l10n translation bundles at https://hg.netbeans.org/releases/l10n will
> be part of the next donation, i.e., the 3rd donation, to Apache, which
> we're trying to wrap up in the next few weeks.
>
> Gj
>
> On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 9:37 PM, Jiří Kovalský 
> wrote:
>
> > Hello Boris,
> >
> >since nobody is driving this the best you can do if you really want to
> > help is to get ownership of the multi-language distributions and start to
> > organize it. I am sure that if you volunteer to coordinate the effort and
> > turn to dev@ or @users@ lists, several people will join you. Just don't
> > be shy, raise your hand, divide the work into small enough tasks and
> people
> > will help you.
> >
> > Good luck Boris!
> >
> > -Jirka
> >
> > Dne 2.8.2018 v 14:12 Boris Heithecker napsal(a):
> >
> > Hello,
> >> i'm now finally porting my app to 9.0. It's always been build on the
> >> internationalized '"multi-language" zip-bundle (I need the german
> >> variant).
> >> Are there any plans to provide internationalized builds / bundles of
> >> 9.0 ready to download? Would this be difficult to do? Can I help
> >> somehow?
> >> Alternatively, I'd simply copy the "locale" folders from 8.2 to the
> >> new 9.0 installation, but I think there should be more people using
> >> the multi-language editon.
> >> Boris
> >>
> >>
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Re: Improving infra @ netbeans?

[Jiří Kovalský]

I looked at your Wikis Antonio and I think they are very good providing 
the necessary introductory information on the infrastructure as we have 
it today. Once the solution for NetBeans Plugin Portal is in place, we 
will have to include it there too. Not sure, if we want to also document 
the scripts for active users and download statistics.


-Jirka

Dne 2.8.2018 v 20:11 Antonio napsal(a):


Hi all,

I've added some initial documentation about our infra at:

https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__cwiki.apache.org_confluence_display_NETBEANS_Infra=DwICaQ=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE=8_Pz0x0SKeT5e3IehhQKCbQ2xl3tz40jnCU133NrdP4=Gco1d3ek09387T2lE95UrUL8nXeTlvtI7MdJHDCiIq0=SX7CZxTm6pQG0tavgEDnqzOBypX2nEaKxSiChEGqNro= 



This is for the Apache NetBeans website, the netbeans-vm.apache.org box 
and how we collect statistics in the update center.


As time permits I'll try to add the jenkins stuff.

I'd appreciate review and corrections.

Thanks,
Antonio

On 02/08/18 06:59, Antonio wrote:

Hi all,

I'll try to create some confluence pages later during the weekend. 
Will keep you posted of my findings :-)


Cheers,
Antonio

On 31/07/18 10:16, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:

Excellent, yes, there's a couple of areas in the infra domain where only
very few people in our community know how to do things, if we can change
that it would be great.

Gj

On Tue, Jul 31, 2018 at 10:11 AM, Wade Chandler 


wrote:

This would be great for me as it is easy to fall behind when you 
have to
come and go in spurts as things are moving so fast in some areas it 
is hard
to keep up. It would make it easier to contribute further to some 
things

IMO.

Thanks so much Antonio

Wade


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Re: NetBeans 9.0 internationalized edition

[Geertjan Wielenga]

The l10n translation bundles at https://hg.netbeans.org/releases/l10n will
be part of the next donation, i.e., the 3rd donation, to Apache, which
we're trying to wrap up in the next few weeks.

Gj

On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 9:37 PM, Jiří Kovalský 
wrote:

> Hello Boris,
>
>since nobody is driving this the best you can do if you really want to
> help is to get ownership of the multi-language distributions and start to
> organize it. I am sure that if you volunteer to coordinate the effort and
> turn to dev@ or @users@ lists, several people will join you. Just don't
> be shy, raise your hand, divide the work into small enough tasks and people
> will help you.
>
> Good luck Boris!
>
> -Jirka
>
> Dne 2.8.2018 v 14:12 Boris Heithecker napsal(a):
>
> Hello,
>> i'm now finally porting my app to 9.0. It's always been build on the
>> internationalized '"multi-language" zip-bundle (I need the german
>> variant).
>> Are there any plans to provide internationalized builds / bundles of
>> 9.0 ready to download? Would this be difficult to do? Can I help
>> somehow?
>> Alternatively, I'd simply copy the "locale" folders from 8.2 to the
>> new 9.0 installation, but I think there should be more people using
>> the multi-language editon.
>> Boris
>>
>>
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RE: [Apache NetBeans 9 Apress Book] Starting the new book

[constantin drabo]

Hello  John,
I vote for :

  *google group mailing list : 
  *dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org but using a header like [Apache 
NetBeans 9 Apress Book]
  *and zoom for the realtime chat

Constantin Drabo

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dans un berceau. ??
- ConstantinE. Tsiolkovski , p??re de l'astronautique?? et de 
l'a??rospatiale modernes.

De : John Kostaras 
Envoyé : mercredi 1 août 2018 22:28
À : dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
Objet : Re: [Apache NetBeans 9 Apress Book] Starting the new book

Thanks for your reply Josh.

I can't create a new channel in netbeans.slack.com so I guess Geertjan or
the creator of this workspace could do it.

I guess first we need to:

   - decide how we want to exchange ideas, so please vote for one of the
   following:
  - slack channel
  - google group mailing list
  
  - dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org but using a header like [Apache
  NetBeans 9 Apress Book]
  - other (please advise)
   - and once this is decided then vote in there whether we wish to write
  - an Apress book
  - a LeanPub  book (but then we need to decide
  what to do with the money if the book is not free)
  - a free community (wiki?) book (e.g. using github.io or another wiki)

Looking forward your feedback.

John.
On Thu, 2 Aug 2018 at 05:48, Josh Juneau  wrote:

> Hi John,
>
> Thanks for sending the detailed proposed TOC for the book.  I agree with
> the three-part book, and I also am in-line with the proposed chapters.  I
> like your idea of looking at the various NetBeans books that are available
> now to get an idea of coverage.  Those interested in working on the book
> should send ideas on proposed chapters after looking at the table of
> contents from some of the other available books.  I believe that would
> ensure we have a solid lineup of chapters.
>
> To answer your questions:
>
> 1) With respect to collaboration, I like the email idea, and I also think
> that we should start a NetBeans book Slack group.  Perhaps as a channel
> added into the existing NetBeans slack group.
>
> 2) Thanks for starting a mailing list for the book!  I think this is a
> great idea.
>
> 3). Apress uses Microsoft Office online (and they should provide accounts)
> that we authors can use for collaboration efforts.
>
> If we go with Apress for the book, we will be working with Jonathan
> Gennick...at least in the beginning.  I'll reach out to him and provide
> your contact information John, if the group is interested in proceeding.
>
> Thanks again...looking forward to moving this along!
>
> Josh Juneau
> juneau...@gmail.com
> http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com
> https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866
>
> > On Aug 1, 2018, at 5:10 AM, Delfi Ramirez 
> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Agreed to most of the proposed index / scheme
> >
> > Please consider
> >
> > "* Part 1: Using Apache NetBeans *: Chapter 3: New features, jigsaw
> support, jshell, etc."
> >
> > To be indexed in Part 3, or part 2, for academic purposes, maybe. due to
> the fact that the "New features" section can grow in a second donation or
> through git collab
> >
> > cheers
> >
> >
> > Delfi Ramirez
> >
> > Segonquart Studio
> >
> > https://segonquart.net
> >
> > From: John Kostaras
> > Sent: 01 August 2018 10:02
> > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > Subject: [Apache NetBeans 9 Apress Book] Starting the new book
> >
> > Hallo again,
> >
> > and thank you for your feedback. I couldn't have described the effort
> > needed in a better way.
> >
> > In order to somehow start, here are few things that we need to consider
> in
> > my opinion.
> >
> >   1. *How we can cooperate.*
> >  1. I suggest that we use a header like the one in this email in
> order
> >  to make it easier to categorise the emails targeting the group of
> authors
> >  of the book, and don't disturb others in the dev mailing list.
> >  2. I have also created a google group (
> >  netbeans-9-community-b...@googlegroups.com) which you could join (I
> >  'll also try to invite some of those in this thread that are
> > interested in
> >  contributing).
> >  3. Are you aware of any web co-authoring tool? There are a number
> >  wiki-like ones, free and non-free, but I don't know of any that
> > we can keep
> >  our work restricted of the world. I use for example github.io. I
> >  don't know if Apress can offer us such an infrastructure, i.e. a
> > wiki that
> >  can be private to its members to co-author a book? Bertrand
> mentions that
> >  Any PoC in Apress Josh?
> >   2. *Book structure*
> >  1. We also need to decide on the book structure. Geertjan already
> >  proposed to split it into three parts, each of
> >  which could be split into about 5 chapters:
> >  Part 1: Using Apache NetBeans
> >  Part 2: Extending Apache NetBeans
> > 

Re: [Apache NetBeans 9 Apress Book] Starting the new book

[Josh Juneau]

Hi John,

I am okay with continuing to exchange ideas via email using the [Apache
NetBeans 9 Apress Book] header.  I also am in favor of a dedicated Slack
channel if one is created.

I also agree that the vote for where the book is to be published should
occur in a new thread using the header, or in a Slack channel.

Thanks John, I appreciate you taking a lead role in this effort.

On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 5:29 AM John Kostaras  wrote:

> Thanks for your reply Josh.
>
> I can't create a new channel in netbeans.slack.com so I guess Geertjan or
> the creator of this workspace could do it.
>
> I guess first we need to:
>
>- decide how we want to exchange ideas, so please vote for one of the
>following:
>   - slack channel
>   - google group mailing list
>   
>   - dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org but using a header like [Apache
>   NetBeans 9 Apress Book]
>   - other (please advise)
>- and once this is decided then vote in there whether we wish to write
>   - an Apress book
>   - a LeanPub  book (but then we need to decide
>   what to do with the money if the book is not free)
>   - a free community (wiki?) book (e.g. using github.io or another
> wiki)
>
> Looking forward your feedback.
>
> John.
> On Thu, 2 Aug 2018 at 05:48, Josh Juneau  wrote:
>
> > Hi John,
> >
> > Thanks for sending the detailed proposed TOC for the book.  I agree with
> > the three-part book, and I also am in-line with the proposed chapters.  I
> > like your idea of looking at the various NetBeans books that are
> available
> > now to get an idea of coverage.  Those interested in working on the book
> > should send ideas on proposed chapters after looking at the table of
> > contents from some of the other available books.  I believe that would
> > ensure we have a solid lineup of chapters.
> >
> > To answer your questions:
> >
> > 1) With respect to collaboration, I like the email idea, and I also think
> > that we should start a NetBeans book Slack group.  Perhaps as a channel
> > added into the existing NetBeans slack group.
> >
> > 2) Thanks for starting a mailing list for the book!  I think this is a
> > great idea.
> >
> > 3). Apress uses Microsoft Office online (and they should provide
> accounts)
> > that we authors can use for collaboration efforts.
> >
> > If we go with Apress for the book, we will be working with Jonathan
> > Gennick...at least in the beginning.  I'll reach out to him and provide
> > your contact information John, if the group is interested in proceeding.
> >
> > Thanks again...looking forward to moving this along!
> >
> > Josh Juneau
> > juneau...@gmail.com
> > http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com
> > https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866
> >
> > > On Aug 1, 2018, at 5:10 AM, Delfi Ramirez 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Agreed to most of the proposed index / scheme
> > >
> > > Please consider
> > >
> > > "* Part 1: Using Apache NetBeans *: Chapter 3: New features, jigsaw
> > support, jshell, etc."
> > >
> > > To be indexed in Part 3, or part 2, for academic purposes, maybe. due
> to
> > the fact that the "New features" section can grow in a second donation or
> > through git collab
> > >
> > > cheers
> > >
> > >
> > > Delfi Ramirez
> > >
> > > Segonquart Studio
> > >
> > > https://segonquart.net
> > >
> > > From: John Kostaras
> > > Sent: 01 August 2018 10:02
> > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > Subject: [Apache NetBeans 9 Apress Book] Starting the new book
> > >
> > > Hallo again,
> > >
> > > and thank you for your feedback. I couldn't have described the effort
> > > needed in a better way.
> > >
> > > In order to somehow start, here are few things that we need to consider
> > in
> > > my opinion.
> > >
> > >   1. *How we can cooperate.*
> > >  1. I suggest that we use a header like the one in this email in
> > order
> > >  to make it easier to categorise the emails targeting the group of
> > authors
> > >  of the book, and don't disturb others in the dev mailing list.
> > >  2. I have also created a google group (
> > >  netbeans-9-community-b...@googlegroups.com) which you could join
> (I
> > >  'll also try to invite some of those in this thread that are
> > > interested in
> > >  contributing).
> > >  3. Are you aware of any web co-authoring tool? There are a number
> > >  wiki-like ones, free and non-free, but I don't know of any that
> > > we can keep
> > >  our work restricted of the world. I use for example github.io. I
> > >  don't know if Apress can offer us such an infrastructure, i.e. a
> > > wiki that
> > >  can be private to its members to co-author a book? Bertrand
> > mentions that
> > >  Any PoC in Apress Josh?
> > >   2. *Book structure*
> > >  1. We also need to decide on the book structure. Geertjan already
> > >  proposed to split it into three parts, each of
> > >  which could be split into about 5 chapters:
> 

NetBeans 9.0 internationalized edition

[Boris Heithecker]

Hello,
i'm now finally porting my app to 9.0. It's always been build on the
internationalized '"multi-language" zip-bundle (I need the german
variant).
Are there any plans to provide internationalized builds / bundles of
9.0 ready to download? Would this be difficult to do? Can I help
somehow?
Alternatively, I'd simply copy the "locale" folders from 8.2 to the
new 9.0 installation, but I think there should be more people using
the multi-language editon.
Boris
-- 
Boris Heithecker

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Re: [Apache NetBeans 9 Apress Book] Starting the new book

[John Kostaras]

Thanks for your reply Josh.

I can't create a new channel in netbeans.slack.com so I guess Geertjan or
the creator of this workspace could do it.

I guess first we need to:

   - decide how we want to exchange ideas, so please vote for one of the
   following:
  - slack channel
  - google group mailing list
  
  - dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org but using a header like [Apache
  NetBeans 9 Apress Book]
  - other (please advise)
   - and once this is decided then vote in there whether we wish to write
  - an Apress book
  - a LeanPub  book (but then we need to decide
  what to do with the money if the book is not free)
  - a free community (wiki?) book (e.g. using github.io or another wiki)

Looking forward your feedback.

John.
On Thu, 2 Aug 2018 at 05:48, Josh Juneau  wrote:

> Hi John,
>
> Thanks for sending the detailed proposed TOC for the book.  I agree with
> the three-part book, and I also am in-line with the proposed chapters.  I
> like your idea of looking at the various NetBeans books that are available
> now to get an idea of coverage.  Those interested in working on the book
> should send ideas on proposed chapters after looking at the table of
> contents from some of the other available books.  I believe that would
> ensure we have a solid lineup of chapters.
>
> To answer your questions:
>
> 1) With respect to collaboration, I like the email idea, and I also think
> that we should start a NetBeans book Slack group.  Perhaps as a channel
> added into the existing NetBeans slack group.
>
> 2) Thanks for starting a mailing list for the book!  I think this is a
> great idea.
>
> 3). Apress uses Microsoft Office online (and they should provide accounts)
> that we authors can use for collaboration efforts.
>
> If we go with Apress for the book, we will be working with Jonathan
> Gennick...at least in the beginning.  I'll reach out to him and provide
> your contact information John, if the group is interested in proceeding.
>
> Thanks again...looking forward to moving this along!
>
> Josh Juneau
> juneau...@gmail.com
> http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com
> https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866
>
> > On Aug 1, 2018, at 5:10 AM, Delfi Ramirez 
> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Agreed to most of the proposed index / scheme
> >
> > Please consider
> >
> > "* Part 1: Using Apache NetBeans *: Chapter 3: New features, jigsaw
> support, jshell, etc."
> >
> > To be indexed in Part 3, or part 2, for academic purposes, maybe. due to
> the fact that the "New features" section can grow in a second donation or
> through git collab
> >
> > cheers
> >
> >
> > Delfi Ramirez
> >
> > Segonquart Studio
> >
> > https://segonquart.net
> >
> > From: John Kostaras
> > Sent: 01 August 2018 10:02
> > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > Subject: [Apache NetBeans 9 Apress Book] Starting the new book
> >
> > Hallo again,
> >
> > and thank you for your feedback. I couldn't have described the effort
> > needed in a better way.
> >
> > In order to somehow start, here are few things that we need to consider
> in
> > my opinion.
> >
> >   1. *How we can cooperate.*
> >  1. I suggest that we use a header like the one in this email in
> order
> >  to make it easier to categorise the emails targeting the group of
> authors
> >  of the book, and don't disturb others in the dev mailing list.
> >  2. I have also created a google group (
> >  netbeans-9-community-b...@googlegroups.com) which you could join (I
> >  'll also try to invite some of those in this thread that are
> > interested in
> >  contributing).
> >  3. Are you aware of any web co-authoring tool? There are a number
> >  wiki-like ones, free and non-free, but I don't know of any that
> > we can keep
> >  our work restricted of the world. I use for example github.io. I
> >  don't know if Apress can offer us such an infrastructure, i.e. a
> > wiki that
> >  can be private to its members to co-author a book? Bertrand
> mentions that
> >  Any PoC in Apress Josh?
> >   2. *Book structure*
> >  1. We also need to decide on the book structure. Geertjan already
> >  proposed to split it into three parts, each of
> >  which could be split into about 5 chapters:
> >  Part 1: Using Apache NetBeans
> >  Part 2: Extending Apache NetBeans
> >  Part 3: Contributing to Apache NetBeans
> >  2. We need to decide what will these 5x3 = 15 chapters are going to
> >  be and who writes what.
> >  1. E.g. thanks to Oliver:
> > 2. - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4k5JpluJM8
> >   https://www.slideshare.net/GeertjanWielenga/extending-nbide
> > - new language support
> > - some available language additions
> > - useful available external plugins
> > 3. Thanks to Milos here is a lot of material on NetBeans Platform
> > Cookbook