Re: The logo, once and for all? (was AW: Merged to master (was Re: A NetBeans website proposal))
When we started this, and Chris did his icon, we had the NetBeans cube; both the blue solid and the red empty sides versions. NB has had those cube icons for decades at this point. Webpack, at the time of his drawing, had a cube in a translucent cube. But, did have the hexgon outline. Has anyone see the latest Webpack logo? It seems to differ only in color, as they have added boldness and contrast to the internal cube lines. I think it would be fair to afford some time for some modification because of this. Just some ideas: Some extra depth to the layer around the cube could relate to the pieces from "Fits the pieces together" as well as "into a new dimension". Maybe even adding some tilt to the hexagon to give it a distinct shadow. Wade On Feb 26, 2018 06:06, "Antonio" wrote: > Hi Chris, all, > > The situation with the logo is that there was a voting at [1] somewhere in > 2016, the most voted logo is not the one with colors, so using the one you > suggest (with colors) instead of the most voted one does not seem to be > very Apache compliant, as it would be against a voting result. > > Also in late 2017 we opened an Apache NetBeans logo contest at [2], which > has not been closed yet. There has been a submission in early february 2018 > (i.e., a few days ago) from Junichi (see [3]), which is also pretty cool, > IMHO, and also deserves our consideration. > > To end up the logo discussion once and for all I propose: > > - Announcing closing the contest within a few days. > - Announce a voting in the mailing list, as per the Apache way. > > I know this is probably lots of bureaucracy, but that's how things are > expected to work in this Apache world, AFAIK (and please correct me if I'm > wrong). > > Kind regards, > Antonio > > [1] > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/NetBeans+Logo > > [2] > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-145 > > [3] > https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12909573/ap > ache-netbeans-logo.png > > Forwarded Message > Subject: AW: Merged to master (was Re: A NetBeans website proposal) > Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2018 10:58:53 +0100 > From: Christian Lenz > Reply-To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > > I would like to Change the logo to the SVG file, because it scales better > and we don’t have any Problems with Retina and whatever, as you can see it > here: http://netbeans.apache.org/. I added the SVG too. > > > Cheers > > Chris > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > > > >
T-Shirts (was Fwd: Re: The logo, once and for all? (was AW: Merged to master (was Re: A NetBeans website proposal)))
Talking of which, the ASF Swag site http://apacheswag.com/ Has no Apache NetBeans T-Shirts yet!! :-( Forwarded Message Subject: Re: The logo, once and for all? (was AW: Merged to master (was Re: A NetBeans website proposal)) Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2018 10:58:11 + From: Neil C Smith Reply-To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org On Tue, 27 Feb 2018 at 10:40 Antonio wrote: I like that "Powered by NetBeans..." logo idea! Yes, particularly on a T-shirt! ;-) Best wishes, Neil -- Neil C Smith Artist & Technologist www.neilcsmith.net Praxis LIVE - hybrid visual IDE for creative coding - www.praxislive.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
Re: The logo, once and for all? (was AW: Merged to master (was Re: A NetBeans website proposal))
On Tue, 27 Feb 2018 at 10:40 Antonio wrote: > I like that "Powered by NetBeans..." logo idea! > Yes, particularly on a T-shirt! ;-) Best wishes, Neil -- Neil C Smith Artist & Technologist www.neilcsmith.net Praxis LIVE - hybrid visual IDE for creative coding - www.praxislive.org
Re: The logo, once and for all? (was AW: Merged to master (was Re: A NetBeans website proposal))
I like that "Powered by NetBeans..." logo idea! Thanks, Bertrand, Antonio On 27/02/18 10:31, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 5:20 PM, Eduard Karel de Jong wrote: ...The next discussion and a subsequent vote should be on the elements that we want to present in the typography... Note also https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs which has a (small) section on logos and graphics policy. -Bertrand - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
Re: The logo, once and for all? (was AW: Merged to master (was Re: A NetBeans website proposal))
On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 5:20 PM, Eduard Karel de Jong wrote: > ...The next discussion and a subsequent vote should be on the elements that we > want to present in the typography... Note also https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs which has a (small) section on logos and graphics policy. -Bertrand - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
Re: The logo, once and for all? (was AW: Merged to master (was Re: A NetBeans website proposal))
Indeed, the icon without typgraphy should be the item to vote upon this time. The next discussion and a subsequent vote should be on the elements that we want to present in the typography, for instance: -the word "apache" -the feather -a 'badge' with "IDE" (with a possible alternate badge for the framework, like "AFW". An other question is if the words "Net" and "Beans" should be with distinct typography. Cheers Eduard Antonio wrote: I'd say the icon without the typography. Cheers, Antonio On 26/02/18 12:16, Neil C Smith wrote: On Mon, 26 Feb 2018 at 11:06 Antonio wrote: To end up the logo discussion once and for all I propose: - Announcing closing the contest within a few days. - Announce a voting in the mailing list, as per the Apache way. Sounds good! Can we also clarify what we mean by logo though? Are we at this stage literally looking for the replacement for the cube icon, without any text / typography? Because currently the blue logo has 6 or 8 votes depending on what we mean. Best wishes, Neil - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
Re: The logo, once and for all? (was AW: Merged to master (was Re: A NetBeans website proposal))
Indeed, the icon without typgraphy should be the item to vote upon this time. The next discussion and a subsequent vote should be on the elements that we want to present in the typography, for instance: -the word "apache" -the feather -a 'badge' with "IDE" (with a possible alternate badge for the framework, like "AFW". An other question is if the words "Net" and "Beans" should be with distinct typography. Cheers Eduard Antonio wrote: I'd say the icon without the typography. Cheers, Antonio On 26/02/18 12:16, Neil C Smith wrote: On Mon, 26 Feb 2018 at 11:06 Antonio wrote: To end up the logo discussion once and for all I propose: - Announcing closing the contest within a few days. - Announce a voting in the mailing list, as per the Apache way. Sounds good! Can we also clarify what we mean by logo though? Are we at this stage literally looking for the replacement for the cube icon, without any text / typography? Because currently the blue logo has 6 or 8 votes depending on what we mean. Best wishes, Neil - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
Re: The logo, once and for all? (was AW: Merged to master (was Re: A NetBeans website proposal))
On Mon, 26 Feb 2018 at 11:24 Antonio wrote: > I'd say the icon without the typography. > Agreed, so +1 from me to that and your schedule. Given the necessarily short schedule, etc., and as we find our feet at Apache, it might be good to keep in mind that any decision could get reviewed around either next major release or when we become a top-level project - ie. it's not a vote on something that will be fixed for all eternity! ;-) Best wishes, Neil -- Neil C Smith Artist & Technologist www.neilcsmith.net Praxis LIVE - hybrid visual IDE for creative coding - www.praxislive.org
Re: The logo, once and for all? (was AW: Merged to master (was Re: A NetBeans website proposal))
I'd say the icon without the typography. Cheers, Antonio On 26/02/18 12:16, Neil C Smith wrote: On Mon, 26 Feb 2018 at 11:06 Antonio wrote: To end up the logo discussion once and for all I propose: - Announcing closing the contest within a few days. - Announce a voting in the mailing list, as per the Apache way. Sounds good! Can we also clarify what we mean by logo though? Are we at this stage literally looking for the replacement for the cube icon, without any text / typography? Because currently the blue logo has 6 or 8 votes depending on what we mean. Best wishes, Neil - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
Re: The logo, once and for all? (was AW: Merged to master (was Re: A NetBeans website proposal))
Hi again, So, to keep things moving, shall we announce closing the contest by, say, until March the 1st? And start the voting during March 2nd, 3rd and 4th? Or is that too fast? ;-) Cheers, Antonio On 26/02/18 12:09, Geertjan Wielenga wrote: That sounds good. Thanks for persevering with this, Antonio. Gj On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 12:06 PM, Antonio wrote: Hi Chris, all, The situation with the logo is that there was a voting at [1] somewhere in 2016, the most voted logo is not the one with colors, so using the one you suggest (with colors) instead of the most voted one does not seem to be very Apache compliant, as it would be against a voting result. Also in late 2017 we opened an Apache NetBeans logo contest at [2], which has not been closed yet. There has been a submission in early february 2018 (i.e., a few days ago) from Junichi (see [3]), which is also pretty cool, IMHO, and also deserves our consideration. To end up the logo discussion once and for all I propose: - Announcing closing the contest within a few days. - Announce a voting in the mailing list, as per the Apache way. I know this is probably lots of bureaucracy, but that's how things are expected to work in this Apache world, AFAIK (and please correct me if I'm wrong). Kind regards, Antonio [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/NetBeans+Logo [2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-145 [3] https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12909573/ apache-netbeans-logo.png Forwarded Message Subject: AW: Merged to master (was Re: A NetBeans website proposal) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2018 10:58:53 +0100 From: Christian Lenz Reply-To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org I would like to Change the logo to the SVG file, because it scales better and we don’t have any Problems with Retina and whatever, as you can see it here: http://netbeans.apache.org/. I added the SVG too. Cheers Chris - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
Re: The logo, once and for all? (was AW: Merged to master (was Re: A NetBeans website proposal))
On Mon, 26 Feb 2018 at 11:06 Antonio wrote: > To end up the logo discussion once and for all I propose: > > - Announcing closing the contest within a few days. > - Announce a voting in the mailing list, as per the Apache way. > Sounds good! Can we also clarify what we mean by logo though? Are we at this stage literally looking for the replacement for the cube icon, without any text / typography? Because currently the blue logo has 6 or 8 votes depending on what we mean. Best wishes, Neil -- Neil C Smith Artist & Technologist www.neilcsmith.net Praxis LIVE - hybrid visual IDE for creative coding - www.praxislive.org
Re: The logo, once and for all? (was AW: Merged to master (was Re: A NetBeans website proposal))
That sounds good. Thanks for persevering with this, Antonio. Gj On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 12:06 PM, Antonio wrote: > Hi Chris, all, > > The situation with the logo is that there was a voting at [1] somewhere in > 2016, the most voted logo is not the one with colors, so using the one you > suggest (with colors) instead of the most voted one does not seem to be > very Apache compliant, as it would be against a voting result. > > Also in late 2017 we opened an Apache NetBeans logo contest at [2], which > has not been closed yet. There has been a submission in early february 2018 > (i.e., a few days ago) from Junichi (see [3]), which is also pretty cool, > IMHO, and also deserves our consideration. > > To end up the logo discussion once and for all I propose: > > - Announcing closing the contest within a few days. > - Announce a voting in the mailing list, as per the Apache way. > > I know this is probably lots of bureaucracy, but that's how things are > expected to work in this Apache world, AFAIK (and please correct me if I'm > wrong). > > Kind regards, > Antonio > > [1] > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/NetBeans+Logo > > [2] > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-145 > > [3] > https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12909573/ > apache-netbeans-logo.png > > Forwarded Message > Subject: AW: Merged to master (was Re: A NetBeans website proposal) > Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2018 10:58:53 +0100 > From: Christian Lenz > Reply-To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > > I would like to Change the logo to the SVG file, because it scales better > and we don’t have any Problems with Retina and whatever, as you can see it > here: http://netbeans.apache.org/. I added the SVG too. > > > Cheers > > Chris > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > > > >
The logo, once and for all? (was AW: Merged to master (was Re: A NetBeans website proposal))
Hi Chris, all, The situation with the logo is that there was a voting at [1] somewhere in 2016, the most voted logo is not the one with colors, so using the one you suggest (with colors) instead of the most voted one does not seem to be very Apache compliant, as it would be against a voting result. Also in late 2017 we opened an Apache NetBeans logo contest at [2], which has not been closed yet. There has been a submission in early february 2018 (i.e., a few days ago) from Junichi (see [3]), which is also pretty cool, IMHO, and also deserves our consideration. To end up the logo discussion once and for all I propose: - Announcing closing the contest within a few days. - Announce a voting in the mailing list, as per the Apache way. I know this is probably lots of bureaucracy, but that's how things are expected to work in this Apache world, AFAIK (and please correct me if I'm wrong). Kind regards, Antonio [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/NetBeans+Logo [2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-145 [3] https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12909573/apache-netbeans-logo.png Forwarded Message Subject: AW: Merged to master (was Re: A NetBeans website proposal) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2018 10:58:53 +0100 From: Christian Lenz Reply-To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org I would like to Change the logo to the SVG file, because it scales better and we don’t have any Problems with Retina and whatever, as you can see it here: http://netbeans.apache.org/. I added the SVG too. Cheers Chris - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
