Mailing list threading improvements

[Christofer Dutz]

TL;DR: We’re updating how auto-generated email from Github will be
threaded on your mailing lists. If you want to keep the old defaults,
details are below.

We’re pleased to let you know that we’re tweaking the way that auto-
generated email from Github will appear on your mailing lists. This
will lead to more human-readable subject lines, and the ability of most
modern mail clients to correctly thread discussions originating on
Github.

Background: Many project mailing lists receive email auto-generated by
Github. The way that the subject lines are crafted leads to messages
from the same topic not being threaded together by most mail clients.
We’re fixing that.

The way that these messages are threaded is defined by a file -
.asf.yml - in your git repositories. We’re changing the way that it
will work by default if you don’t choose settings. If you’re happy for
us to make this change, don’t do anything - the change will happen on
October the 1st 2023.

Details of the current default, as well as the proposed changes, are on
the following page, along with instructions on how to keep your current
settings, if you prefer:

https://community.apache.org/contributors/mailing-lists.html#configuring-the-subject-lines-of-the-emails-being-sent

Please copy d...@community.apache.org
on any feedback.

Chris, on behalf of the Comdev PMC

Re: Mailing List

[Nathan Hartman]

@Brennan, thanks for catching that!

Nathan

On Thu, Jun 8, 2023 at 11:44 PM Brennan Ashton 
wrote:

> Email aggressively remove the sender from the reply list when sent to a
> list so they likely did not get this email. I was doing the same thing a
> couple weeks ago Added them to this one.
>
> Sharwin Patil hopefully you get this response from Nathan.
>
> --Brennan
>
> On Thu, Jun 8, 2023, 6:28 PM Nathan Hartman 
> wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Jun 8, 2023 at 7:01 PM Sharwin Patil 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > I am a developer using NuttX and would like to be added to the mailing
> > list
> > > for NuttX development.
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > > Sharwin Patil
> > > GreenSight
> > >
> >
> > Great to have you! To subscribe, send an email to:
> > dev-subscr...@nuttx.apache.org.
> >
> > Youll get a confirmation email; once you confirm by replying to that,
> > you'll be on the mailing list.
> >
> > Similarly, if you ever wish to unsubscribe, just send an email to:
> > dev-unsubscr...@nuttx.apache.org.
> >
> > We should probably update the NuttX website to document this process more
> > clearly. :-)
> >
> > Hope this helps,
> > Nathan
> >
>

Re: Mailing List

[Brennan Ashton]

Email aggressively remove the sender from the reply list when sent to a
list so they likely did not get this email. I was doing the same thing a
couple weeks ago Added them to this one.

Sharwin Patil hopefully you get this response from Nathan.

--Brennan

On Thu, Jun 8, 2023, 6:28 PM Nathan Hartman 
wrote:

> On Thu, Jun 8, 2023 at 7:01 PM Sharwin Patil 
> wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > I am a developer using NuttX and would like to be added to the mailing
> list
> > for NuttX development.
> >
> > Thanks!
> > Sharwin Patil
> > GreenSight
> >
>
> Great to have you! To subscribe, send an email to:
> dev-subscr...@nuttx.apache.org.
>
> Youll get a confirmation email; once you confirm by replying to that,
> you'll be on the mailing list.
>
> Similarly, if you ever wish to unsubscribe, just send an email to:
> dev-unsubscr...@nuttx.apache.org.
>
> We should probably update the NuttX website to document this process more
> clearly. :-)
>
> Hope this helps,
> Nathan
>

Re: Mailing List

[Nathan Hartman]

On Thu, Jun 8, 2023 at 7:01 PM Sharwin Patil 
wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I am a developer using NuttX and would like to be added to the mailing list
> for NuttX development.
>
> Thanks!
> Sharwin Patil
> GreenSight
>

Great to have you! To subscribe, send an email to:
dev-subscr...@nuttx.apache.org.

Youll get a confirmation email; once you confirm by replying to that,
you'll be on the mailing list.

Similarly, if you ever wish to unsubscribe, just send an email to:
dev-unsubscr...@nuttx.apache.org.

We should probably update the NuttX website to document this process more
clearly. :-)

Hope this helps,
Nathan

Mailing List

[Sharwin Patil]

Hello,

I am a developer using NuttX and would like to be added to the mailing list
for NuttX development.

Thanks!
Sharwin Patil
GreenSight

Re: Warning: Apache Mailing list was silently down

[Sebastien Lorquet]

Hi,

seems like it was not /dev/null after all but a /dev/pipe since my smart 
card messages finally went through without any action on my side.


Sebastien

Le 09/05/2023 à 19:16, Alan C. Assis a écrit :

It seems that since (at least) yesterday Apache mailing list was
silently dropping emails.

So it you sent some email at least in the last 24h please submit it
again because the email server sent it to /dev/null !

BR,

Alan

Re: Warning: Apache Mailing list was silently down

[Alan C. Assis]

Hi Nathan,

On 5/9/23, Nathan Hartman  wrote:
> On Tue, May 9, 2023 at 1:20 PM Alan C. Assis  wrote:
>
>> It seems that since (at least) yesterday Apache mailing list was
>> silently dropping emails.
>>
>> So it you sent some email at least in the last 24h please submit it
>> again because the email server sent it to /dev/null !
>>
>
> Should talk to Infra?
>

Yes, could you please ping infra?

BR,

Alan

Re: Warning: Apache Mailing list was silently down

[Nathan Hartman]

On Tue, May 9, 2023 at 1:20 PM Alan C. Assis  wrote:

> It seems that since (at least) yesterday Apache mailing list was
> silently dropping emails.
>
> So it you sent some email at least in the last 24h please submit it
> again because the email server sent it to /dev/null !
>
> BR,
>
> Alan
>

Should talk to Infra?

Nathan

Warning: Apache Mailing list was silently down

[Alan C. Assis]

It seems that since (at least) yesterday Apache mailing list was
silently dropping emails.

So it you sent some email at least in the last 24h please submit it
again because the email server sent it to /dev/null !

BR,

Alan

Mailing list duplicate header error

[Bernd Walter]

This is not about nuttx, but about this list.

Just a few minutes ago I had send a mail to this list.
The returned mail from the list was tagged as spam.
It wasn't enough to reject the mail, but tag it, so that it was filed
into the spam folder.
The major reason (rspamd default config) was 7 points for duplicate
unique headers.
I tend to send mail with a reply-to header.
The list added a second header, but left mine, so in the end there had
been two disagreeing reply-to headers.

-- 
B.Walter  https://www.bwct.de
Modbus/TCP Ethernet I/O Baugruppen, ARM basierte FreeBSD Rechner uvm.

Re: [NuttX] mailing list messages subject prefix

[Tomek CEDRO]

On Mon, Jun 20, 2022 at 4:44 PM Alan Carvalho de Assis wrote:
> They just replied:
> "Note that this is true of most ASF mailing lists.
> Also adding a subject prefix can cause issues with message signatures,
> e.g. DCIM."

Indeed if mailman wants to forward signed messages they cannot be tampered with.

https://doc.coker.com.au/internet/dkim-and-mailing-lists/

I will create a filter in my email client :-)

Thank you Alan and Nathan :-)

Tomek

-- 
CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info

Re: [NuttX] mailing list messages subject prefix

[Alan Carvalho de Assis]

They just replied:

"Note that this is true of most ASF mailing lists.
Also adding a subject prefix can cause issues with message signatures,
e.g. DCIM."

BR,

Alan

On 6/20/22, Tomek CEDRO  wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 20, 2022 at 4:20 PM Alan Carvalho de Assis  wrote:
>> Ok, I opened a ticket to let Apache Infra to fix it:
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-23402
>> BR,
>> Alan
>
> Thank You Alan!! :-)
>
> --
> CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info
>

Re: [NuttX] mailing list messages subject prefix

[Tomek CEDRO]

On Mon, Jun 20, 2022 at 4:20 PM Alan Carvalho de Assis  wrote:
> Ok, I opened a ticket to let Apache Infra to fix it:
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-23402
> BR,
> Alan

Thank You Alan!! :-)

-- 
CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info

Re: [NuttX] mailing list messages subject prefix

[Alan Carvalho de Assis]

Ok, I opened a ticket to let Apache Infra to fix it:

https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-23402

BR,

Alan

On 6/20/22, Tomek CEDRO  wrote:
> hello world :-)
>
> would that be possible to add "[NuttX]" or "[Nuttx-dev]" prefix to mailing
> list messages?
>
> that would help in quick messages identification among hundreds of other
> emails :-)
>
> thanks for considering :-)
>
> --
> CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info
>

Re: [NuttX] mailing list messages subject prefix

[Nathan Hartman]

On Mon, Jun 20, 2022 at 9:46 AM Tomek CEDRO  wrote:
>
> hello world :-)
>
> would that be possible to add "[NuttX]" or "[Nuttx-dev]" prefix to mailing
> list messages?
>
> that would help in quick messages identification among hundreds of other
> emails :-)
>
> thanks for considering :-)
>
> --
> CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info


Hmm, our mail lists are managed by ASF and I haven't seen other ASF
project mailing lists doing that. Unfortunately, relying on
individuals to do it manually probably won't work consistently.

Are you able to configure your mail client to filter by From address?

Cheers,
Nathan

[NuttX] mailing list messages subject prefix

[Tomek CEDRO]

hello world :-)

would that be possible to add "[NuttX]" or "[Nuttx-dev]" prefix to mailing
list messages?

that would help in quick messages identification among hundreds of other
emails :-)

thanks for considering :-)

--
CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info

Re: Mailing list usability

[Matias N.]

Most mailing list managers allow turning off sending emails (and also support 
digest mode).
If Apache uses mailman this should be possible to set via administrative 
interface once you
subscribe.

Best,
Matias

On Fri, Apr 23, 2021, at 06:34, Max Kriegleder wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I am an infrequent user of the mailing list, where I sometimes post 
> issues and even more rarely pull request. Hence, I would rather not 
> subscribe to the list because of spam (no pun intended!). However, I 
> find it quite difficult to use the mailing list for my purposes without 
> subscribing.
> 
> Lately, some of my messages apparently got lost. Also, I cannot answer 
> to specific messages on 
> https://www.mail-archive.com/dev@nuttx.apache.org/ as the 'Reply via 
> email to' button doesn't work in my browser (Firefox). I have tried 
> http://mail-archives.apache.org, which doesn't have a search and reply 
> functionality, and 
> https://lists.apache.org/list.html?dev@nuttx.apache.org, which seems 
> like the best alternative with search and reply functionality, but it 
> doesn't seem to be in sync with the mailing list (or takes longer to do 
> that).
> 
> Are there other alternatives for my use case or do I really need to 
> subscribe to the mailing list?
> 
> Thanks!
> Max
> 
> 

Re: Mailing list usability

[Brennan Ashton]

Max,
Sorry you are having trouble, I agree mailing lists are hard to use without
subscribing and I think you found what would have been my suggestions for
accessing the archives. I included you directly in this response so
hopefully you will get it.

If you have "issues" that you want to discuss such as the one you posted
about with the sm32f4discovery board feel free to open an actual GitHub
issue and we can try to resolve it there. We try to avoid too many of the
"how do I" kind of questions there, but if they are posted usually they
will still get a response just the audience may be smaller.

I hope that helps!

--Brennan


On Fri, Apr 23, 2021, 3:45 PM Max Kriegleder 
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I am an infrequent user of the mailing list, where I sometimes post
> issues and even more rarely pull request. Hence, I would rather not
> subscribe to the list because of spam (no pun intended!). However, I
> find it quite difficult to use the mailing list for my purposes without
> subscribing.
>
> Lately, some of my messages apparently got lost. Also, I cannot answer
> to specific messages on
> https://www.mail-archive.com/dev@nuttx.apache.org/ as the 'Reply via
> email to' button doesn't work in my browser (Firefox). I have tried
> http://mail-archives.apache.org, which doesn't have a search and reply
> functionality, and
> https://lists.apache.org/list.html?dev@nuttx.apache.org, which seems
> like the best alternative with search and reply functionality, but it
> doesn't seem to be in sync with the mailing list (or takes longer to do
> that).
>
> Are there other alternatives for my use case or do I really need to
> subscribe to the mailing list?
>
> Thanks!
> Max
>
>

Mailing list usability

[Max Kriegleder]

Hi all,

I am an infrequent user of the mailing list, where I sometimes post 
issues and even more rarely pull request. Hence, I would rather not 
subscribe to the list because of spam (no pun intended!). However, I 
find it quite difficult to use the mailing list for my purposes without 
subscribing.


Lately, some of my messages apparently got lost. Also, I cannot answer 
to specific messages on 
https://www.mail-archive.com/dev@nuttx.apache.org/ as the 'Reply via 
email to' button doesn't work in my browser (Firefox). I have tried 
http://mail-archives.apache.org, which doesn't have a search and reply 
functionality, and 
https://lists.apache.org/list.html?dev@nuttx.apache.org, which seems 
like the best alternative with search and reply functionality, but it 
doesn't seem to be in sync with the mailing list (or takes longer to do 
that).


Are there other alternatives for my use case or do I really need to 
subscribe to the mailing list?


Thanks!
Max

Re: Request to join Mailing List

[Nathan Hartman]

On Thu, Feb 20, 2020 at 6:13 AM Bhindhiya Raja
 wrote:

> Hi
>
> I would like to join the mailing list.


Hello,

Please send blank email to dev-subscr...@nuttx.apache.org.

Regards
Nathan

Request to join Mailing List

[Bhindhiya Raja]

Hi

I would like to join the mailing list.

Regards
Bhindhiya Raja

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Re: Mailing list subscribers

[Gregory Nutt]

JFYI So far we have 62 subscriber to this list.


This is very good.  There are 403 in the Google group.  When we reach a 
point where we tolerate the inconvenience to the few remaining, I can 
shut down further posts on Google.

Mailing list subscribers

[Justin Mclean]

Hi,

JFYI So far we have 62 subscriber to this list.

Thanks,
Justin