Re: [UX]Comments visibility
On 12/16/2012 01:41, Kevin Grignon wrote: KG01 - see comments inline On Dec 15, 2012, at 11:31 PM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: On 08/12/2012 RGB ES wrote: Some users, mostly when reading an existing document, tend do disable the view of comments with View → Comments. The problem with this option is that comments disappear *completely*, which increase the risk of deleting a note by accident. KG01 - The system should avoid deleting hidden elements. Should the system try to delete content which includes a hidden comment, we should inform the user of the consequence of the action, and provide a way to quickly review the comment, in context, and give them options on how to proceed. Options could include 1) delete content and comment, 2) delete content and push comment to cursor location 3) or cancel action. I agree this can be a usability problem. So I think there are two point that can be considered: 1- Set by default the option of viewing note anchors even when view comments is disabled. KG01 - View option for common objects could be simplified. With some task pane toolbar view options (clipart gallery, navigator, etc) moving to sidebar task pane, we could push a high frequency view options command (dropdown) to the main toolbar. Where one click on/off could control view options, such as comments. This makes sense, but then we would have to add an option at least in Tools - Options - Writer - View to hide comment anchors too (and it would have to be active only if Comments in unset... not very friendly). 2- Make note anchor show a tooltip with the note content, the same way footnote anchors show footnote content when hover over it, but of course only when view comment is disable. KG01 - we could explore user friendly action tool bars as a way to reveal comments. This would work, but the user wouldn't get rid of comments completely. He would still see the anchor and I don't know how annoying this would be. KG01 - I'll add this to the ux backlog. This is an area where we should sketch out some concepts, then socialize for feedback. Definitely a good question for UX! KG - Yup. Keep 'em coming :) Regards, Andrea. While you're thinking about visibility, please think about bookmarks. Totally invisible, very deletable, combination undesirable. /tj/
Re: wiki.open office Volunteer Application
Doreen, Please refer to http://openoffice.apache.org/mailing-lists.html, and send mail to dev-subscr...@openoffice.apache.org , then you will be subscribed to dev@openoffice.apache.org automatically. But be careful that there might be 20~50 mails every day from the mail list. So you may want a special mail account for it. - Shenfeng (Simon) 2012/12/14 陶然 doreentr0...@gmail.com Hi, First of all, thank you for your fast feedback! And I'm very appreciate your permit! Would you please put me into the mail list?And if I have an account for editing WIKI content, my username for the account is Doreen. Nice to meet you all! Best regards, Doreen 2012/12/13 Andrew Douglas Pitonyak and...@pitonyak.org the WIKI, respond to this email (be sure to include the mailing list) and indicate the username to use for your account. Note that you only require an account if you will edit WIKI content
Re: [proposal]: Enhance visualisation of Handles
Hi Armin, Armin Le Grand schrieb: Hi List, On 11.12.2012 14:15, Armin Le Grand wrote: Hi List, I took the time and started to look technically and bitmap'ally at the handles and how to make them some nicer, but also more useful (aka slightly transparent). For deeper information, please see the task (https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=121463) I have opened for it. I know handles and how they look is a question of taste; I tried to carefully alter them and did not take away any existiong options (two sets, two sizes to choose from, plus HighContrast). To take a look, follow the link to find the things I changed and the bitmaps in the files referenced there. P.S.: I actually used Draw and it's 3D engine to create the handles before scaling them down in a bitmap program, it's all in there :-) -- ALG I have comitted this now, mainly that all get the chance to have a look and play around with it. Please do not hesitate when you see negative effects or something that needs to be re-evaluated. Comitting it does not mean it's the end of the story :-) For the worst case, svn *is* a time machine. I (still) hope that the handles which are more pleasing to the eye find mostly everyones liking. I was very careful, the change is moderate. Just take a look first ;-) The buildbot version has it now and I tried it. The transparency for the anchor icon is really a large improvement. And the handles have a good compromise between brightness and transparency. The draw center and mirror axis markers are visible in front of dark backgrounds too. So I think, well done. :) Kind regards Regina
Why not .....
Why not use a distinct mark in de ruler for a hanging indent something like ►. That's easy to use and clear/obvious. Don't try to imitate WORD Saludos Carlos
Re: Why not .....
Hi Carlos, c...@setarnet.aw schrieb: Why not use a distinct mark in de ruler for a hanging indent something like ►. That's easy to use and clear/obvious. There are two triangles on the left side of the horizontal ruler. The upper one with tip down is for the indent of the first line and the lower one is for the indent of the rest of the lines. What is your problem with this triangles? Drag them to the indent you want. Don't try to imitate WORD We do not. Apache OpenOffice is designed to work with styles, although hard formatting works as well. So if you want a hanging indent then apply the style Hanging indent. If you need to adapt the amount of indent to your needs, then modify the style. You are not subscribed to the mailing list, so you might miss some answers. What about using the forum http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/ ? Kind regards Regina
Re: Why not .....
Hi Regina, must we not say Don't try to imitate MS- Word ? I think the Programname Word is to universally. Kind regards Mario from PC-SERVICEPARTNER Am 16.12.2012 17:32, schrieb Regina Henschel: Hi Carlos, c...@setarnet.aw schrieb: Why not use a distinct mark in de ruler for a hanging indent something like ►. That's easy to use and clear/obvious. There are two triangles on the left side of the horizontal ruler. The upper one with tip down is for the indent of the first line and the lower one is for the indent of the rest of the lines. What is your problem with this triangles? Drag them to the indent you want. Don't try to imitate WORD We do not. Apache OpenOffice is designed to work with styles, although hard formatting works as well. So if you want a hanging indent then apply the style Hanging indent. If you need to adapt the amount of indent to your needs, then modify the style. You are not subscribed to the mailing list, so you might miss some answers. What about using the forum http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/ ? Kind regards Regina -- PC-SERVICEPARTNER ERFURT Tel:0361 3915093 Computer+Notebook[CoNo]-Service Saltheim Verwaltung Mosbacher Straße 18/19 99848 Wutha-Farnroda Tel. 036921 90382
[question] draw...
Hi. I have to make some 3D construction drawings, I tried to use draw, but is seems that the 3D functionality is very limited ?? What I would like to was to create a half ball out of a circle (a dome for an astromony observatory, a hobby of mine, when I do not work on MWIKI or l10n), and then add some cutting lines etc, for a mechanic to follow. Am I wrong or is the 3D support limited to presentation and not really fit for drawing (in case not is there any work in progress) ? In case not, can anybody recommend a good tool, where I can import the files in AOO and write the documents. I know this is a developer list and not a customer support list, but I hope anyhow that somehow can give me a hint where to continue. thanks in advance. Jan I.
Re: [question] draw...
Hi Jan, janI schrieb: Hi. I have to make some 3D construction drawings, I tried to use draw, but is seems that the 3D functionality is very limited ?? The 3D-engine is limited concerning shadows, but the rest is usable. Only the UI needs an improvement. What I would like to was to create a half ball out of a circle (a dome for an astromony observatory, a hobby of mine, when I do not work on MWIKI or l10n), and then add some cutting lines etc, for a mechanic to follow. Do you have already enabled the set of predefined 3D-objects? Right click the drawing toolbar Customize Check 3D-objects. The set contains a Half-Sphere. Perhaps that is already what you are searching for. Do you know the chapter about 3D-Objects in the Draw-Guide? I ask because it is not clear, how much do you already know about 3D objects. For example, do you know the difference between object properties and scene properties? Am I wrong or is the 3D support limited to presentation and not really fit for drawing (in case not is there any work in progress) ? No, the objects are the same in Draw and Impress. One difference between Impress and Draw is, that you have animation in Impress and that you have layer in Draw. In case not, can anybody recommend a good tool, where I can import the files in AOO and write the documents. What part of AOO you want to use? If you will use Writer, then the 3D-application should be able to export to pictures. If you will produce a presentation in Impress, then Flash might work as well, you can use the Flash plugin. I have no recommendation, because I can do all what I need in Draw. Only for those parts where I need an exact calculation, I use a CAS (computer algebra system). I know this is a developer list and not a customer support list, but I hope anyhow that somehow can give me a hint where to continue. 3D is already very special. But you will find experts on the user mailing list and in the forum too. I read the mailing list regularly and the forum from time to time. Kind regards Regina
Re: [question] draw...
Danke.. On 16 December 2012 19:17, Regina Henschel rb.hensc...@t-online.de wrote: Hi Jan, janI schrieb: Hi. I have to make some 3D construction drawings, I tried to use draw, but is seems that the 3D functionality is very limited ?? The 3D-engine is limited concerning shadows, but the rest is usable. Only the UI needs an improvement. What I would like to was to create a half ball out of a circle (a dome for an astromony observatory, a hobby of mine, when I do not work on MWIKI or l10n), and then add some cutting lines etc, for a mechanic to follow. Do you have already enabled the set of predefined 3D-objects? Right click the drawing toolbar Customize Check 3D-objects. The set contains a Half-Sphere. Perhaps that is already what you are searching for. That helped me halfway. Do you know the chapter about 3D-Objects in the Draw-Guide? I ask because it is not clear, how much do you already know about 3D objects. For example, do you know the difference between object properties and scene properties? No problem in asking, I know a lot about 3d objects...I used to use 3Dmax, but working with AOO, I felt I should give draw a try. Working with updating the wiki, I tried to use it :-) but the page: http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Draw_Guide is very empty ?? so where is the guide ? Am I wrong or is the 3D support limited to presentation and not really fit for drawing (in case not is there any work in progress) ? No, the objects are the same in Draw and Impress. One difference between Impress and Draw is, that you have animation in Impress and that you have layer in Draw. In case not, can anybody recommend a good tool, where I can import the files in AOO and write the documents. What part of AOO you want to use? If you will use Writer, then the 3D-application should be able to export to pictures. If you will produce a presentation in Impress, then Flash might work as well, you can use the Flash plugin. I actually just need draw...I have to make a drawing of a dome, made of triangels. So my idea was to take a half sphere and draw lines on it...in 3Dmax that is a piece of cake, because you work in 2d with X,Y,Z planes and it generates the 3d object. I have no recommendation, because I can do all what I need in Draw. Only for those parts where I need an exact calculation, I use a CAS (computer algebra system). Thanks for your help so far...if you can point me the manual in wiki or elsewhere, then I will dig. I know this is a developer list and not a customer support list, but I hope anyhow that somehow can give me a hint where to continue. 3D is already very special. But you will find experts on the user mailing list and in the forum too. I read the mailing list regularly and the forum from time to time. To be honest, this was fastest since I am not in any forums...just these developer lists :-( have a nice evening Jan I. Kind regards Regina
[WEBSITE] Problem with .htm files
I had a long discussion with Infra today trying to find out why a change I had applied was not appearing. Analyzing it, it turns out that we have a problem already visible on over 400 pages and related to .htm files (as opposed to .html files). Reproducing is easy: 1) Edit a .htm file, e.g., do this: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/pt/about/newsletter.htm?r1=1413471r2=1422592diff_format=h 2) Publish the changes and you get file duplication: http://www.openoffice.org/pt/about/newsletter.htm (the existing URL, ending in .htm, not updated) http://www.openoffice.org/pt/about/newsletter.html (a new URL, containing the fix) This silent change of URLs is quite scary and we already have 401 duplicate pages. For other examples see http://www.openoffice.org/fr/Documentation/liens.htm http://www.openoffice.org/fr/Documentation/liens.html or http://www.openoffice.org/ui/proposals/Readonly_mode.htm http://www.openoffice.org/ui/proposals/Readonly_mode.html Daniel Shahaf, who investigated the problem, suggests that we take a look at our path.pm. Looking at it, I think the place to start investigating is line 14 of http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/lib/path.pm?revision=1413471view=markup which seems to actually turn .htm files into .html files, but it's probably best that someone familiar with the CMS does the change, since I definitely don't want to break the website. Regards, Andrea.
AOO trunk build fails with HSQLDB
Hi,
I cannot build AOO from source. I use Ubuntu 64bit. I have never been
able to build correctly; I switched from jdk7 to jdk6 and that didn't
change anything.
I used these instructions, [1], to get things started but I use a
different svn url. (off topic: I tried svn-git but it stops responding
after a while).
These are the commands that I run to get the build going:
svn co https://svn-master.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/trunk ~/aoo/trunk
cd ~/aoo/trunk/main/
autoconf
~/aoo/trunk/main/configure
--with-dmake-url=http://dmake.apache-extras.org.codespot.com/files/dmake-4.12.tar.bz2
--with-epm-url=http://ftp.easysw.com/pub/epm/3.7/epm-3.7-source.tar.gz
--disable-odk --disable-binfilter
~/aoo/trunk/main/bootstrap
source ~/aoo/trunk/main/LinuxX86-64Env.Set.sh
cd ~/aoo/trunk/main/instsetoo_native/
build --all -P4 -- -P4
It fails. I get a bunch of compiler errors about abstract methods not
being overridden:
[javac]
/home/ljdelight/aoo/trunk/main/hsqldb/unxlngx6.pro/misc/build/hsqldb/src/org/hsqldb/jdbc/jdbcStatement.java:127:
error: jdbcStatement is not abstract and does not override abstract
method isCloseOnCompletion() in Statement
[javac] public class jdbcStatement implements Statement {
[javac]^
ERROR: error 65280 occurred while making /home/ljdelight/aoo/trunk/main/hsqldb
When you have fixed the errors in that module you can resume the build
by running:
build --from hsqldb
Thanks for the help,
Lucas
[1] http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO
Re: AOO trunk build fails with HSQLDB
Hi Lucas,
On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 01:52:49PM -0600, Lucas Burson wrote:
Hi,
I cannot build AOO from source. I use Ubuntu 64bit. I have never been
able to build correctly; I switched from jdk7 to jdk6 and that didn't
change anything.
The error seems to tell your system is on Java 7, see bellow.
I used these instructions, [1], to get things started but I use a
different svn url. (off topic: I tried svn-git but it stops responding
after a while).
These are the commands that I run to get the build going:
svn co https://svn-master.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/trunk ~/aoo/trunk
cd ~/aoo/trunk/main/
autoconf
~/aoo/trunk/main/configure
--with-dmake-url=http://dmake.apache-extras.org.codespot.com/files/dmake-4.12.tar.bz2
--with-epm-url=http://ftp.easysw.com/pub/epm/3.7/epm-3.7-source.tar.gz
--disable-odk --disable-binfilter
~/aoo/trunk/main/bootstrap
source ~/aoo/trunk/main/LinuxX86-64Env.Set.sh
cd ~/aoo/trunk/main/instsetoo_native/
build --all -P4 -- -P4
It fails. I get a bunch of compiler errors about abstract methods not
being overridden:
[javac]
/home/ljdelight/aoo/trunk/main/hsqldb/unxlngx6.pro/misc/build/hsqldb/src/org/hsqldb/jdbc/jdbcStatement.java:127:
error: jdbcStatement is not abstract and does not override abstract
method isCloseOnCompletion() in Statement
[javac] public class jdbcStatement implements Statement {
[javac]^
This method was added on Java 7, see
http://docs.oracle.com/javase/7/docs/api/java/sql/Statement.html#isCloseOnCompletion%28%29
Either use alternatives to switch to Java 6, or better install Java
6 from your distros repo, leaving your system's default, and pointing
the build system to the right JDK 6, configuring with --with-jdk-home
for example:
--with-jdk-home=/opt/jdk1.6
here JDK 6 is in /opt/jdk1.6
Regards
--
Ariel Constenla-Haile
La Plata, Argentina
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Re: AOO trunk build fails with HSQLDB
I use ubuntu (12.04 server and 12.10 desktop) and have no problem building
trunk, branches/l10n.
I use the following conf call:
./configure \
--with-dmake-url=
http://dmake.apache-extras.org.codespot.com/files/dmake-4.12.tar.bz2 \
--with-epm-url=http://ftp.easysw.com/pub/epm/3.7/epm-3.7-source.tar.gz\
--disable-odk \
--disable-binfilter \
--enable-wiki-publisher \
--with-lang=da
(also with --with-lang).
I have not changed any java setup, actually I just installed the 12.10
yesterday, so it is fresh out of the box.
I had a problem with sysui and permission,but I committed a change to build
a while ago.
java is version 1.7.0_09
OpenJDK runtime (IcedTea 2.3.3)
OpenJDK 64bit server build 23-2-b09
I just had another build all this evening which just completed.
On 16 December 2012 20:52, Lucas Burson ljdeli...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
I cannot build AOO from source. I use Ubuntu 64bit. I have never been
able to build correctly; I switched from jdk7 to jdk6 and that didn't
change anything.
I used these instructions, [1], to get things started but I use a
different svn url. (off topic: I tried svn-git but it stops responding
after a while).
These are the commands that I run to get the build going:
svn co https://svn-master.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/trunk~/aoo/trunk
cd ~/aoo/trunk/main/
autoconf
~/aoo/trunk/main/configure
--with-dmake-url=
http://dmake.apache-extras.org.codespot.com/files/dmake-4.12.tar.bz2
--with-epm-url=http://ftp.easysw.com/pub/epm/3.7/epm-3.7-source.tar.gz
--disable-odk --disable-binfilter
~/aoo/trunk/main/bootstrap
source ~/aoo/trunk/main/LinuxX86-64Env.Set.sh
cd ~/aoo/trunk/main/instsetoo_native/
build --all -P4 -- -P4
I do the same...and when I run into problems I restart build without the P4
(solely: build --all)
hope it helps.
Jan.
It fails. I get a bunch of compiler errors about abstract methods not
being overridden:
[javac] /home/ljdelight/aoo/trunk/main/hsqldb/
unxlngx6.pro/misc/build/hsqldb/src/org/hsqldb/jdbc/jdbcStatement.java:127:
error: jdbcStatement is not abstract and does not override abstract
method isCloseOnCompletion() in Statement
[javac] public class jdbcStatement implements Statement {
[javac]^
ERROR: error 65280 occurred while making
/home/ljdelight/aoo/trunk/main/hsqldb
When you have fixed the errors in that module you can resume the build
by running:
build --from hsqldb
Thanks for the help,
Lucas
[1] http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO
Re: AOO trunk build fails with HSQLDB
Why does that work on my system...I am just wondering ??
Jan.
On 16 December 2012 21:03, Ariel Constenla-Haile arie...@apache.org wrote:
Hi Lucas,
On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 01:52:49PM -0600, Lucas Burson wrote:
Hi,
I cannot build AOO from source. I use Ubuntu 64bit. I have never been
able to build correctly; I switched from jdk7 to jdk6 and that didn't
change anything.
The error seems to tell your system is on Java 7, see bellow.
I used these instructions, [1], to get things started but I use a
different svn url. (off topic: I tried svn-git but it stops responding
after a while).
These are the commands that I run to get the build going:
svn co https://svn-master.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/trunk~/aoo/trunk
cd ~/aoo/trunk/main/
autoconf
~/aoo/trunk/main/configure
--with-dmake-url=
http://dmake.apache-extras.org.codespot.com/files/dmake-4.12.tar.bz2
--with-epm-url=http://ftp.easysw.com/pub/epm/3.7/epm-3.7-source.tar.gz
--disable-odk --disable-binfilter
~/aoo/trunk/main/bootstrap
source ~/aoo/trunk/main/LinuxX86-64Env.Set.sh
cd ~/aoo/trunk/main/instsetoo_native/
build --all -P4 -- -P4
It fails. I get a bunch of compiler errors about abstract methods not
being overridden:
[javac] /home/ljdelight/aoo/trunk/main/hsqldb/
unxlngx6.pro/misc/build/hsqldb/src/org/hsqldb/jdbc/jdbcStatement.java:127:
error: jdbcStatement is not abstract and does not override abstract
method isCloseOnCompletion() in Statement
[javac] public class jdbcStatement implements Statement {
[javac]^
This method was added on Java 7, see
http://docs.oracle.com/javase/7/docs/api/java/sql/Statement.html#isCloseOnCompletion%28%29
Either use alternatives to switch to Java 6, or better install Java
6 from your distros repo, leaving your system's default, and pointing
the build system to the right JDK 6, configuring with --with-jdk-home
for example:
--with-jdk-home=/opt/jdk1.6
here JDK 6 is in /opt/jdk1.6
Regards
--
Ariel Constenla-Haile
La Plata, Argentina
Re: AOO trunk build fails with HSQLDB
- Original Message -
From: Ariel Constenla-Haile
Hi Lucas,
On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 01:52:49PM -0600, Lucas Burson wrote:
Hi,
...
It fails. I get a bunch of compiler errors about abstract methods not
being overridden:
[javac]
/home/ljdelight/aoo/trunk/main/hsqldb/unxlngx6.pro/misc/build/hsqldb/src/org/hsqldb/jdbc/jdbcStatement.java:127:
error: jdbcStatement is not abstract and does not override abstract
method isCloseOnCompletion() in Statement
[javac] public class jdbcStatement implements Statement {
[javac] ^
This method was added on Java 7, see
http://docs.oracle.com/javase/7/docs/api/java/sql/Statement.html#isCloseOnCompletion%28%29
There is a patch in debian that adds some stubs for this. The real solution is
updating hsqldb
though.
On the subject of Java 7, someone should look at
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=121098
The fix is rather trivial.
Pedro.
Re: [question] draw...
Hi Jan, janI schrieb: Danke.. On 16 December 2012 19:17, Regina Henschel rb.hensc...@t-online.de wrote: Hi Jan, janI schrieb: Hi. I have to make some 3D construction drawings, I tried to use draw, but is seems that the 3D functionality is very limited ?? The 3D-engine is limited concerning shadows, but the rest is usable. Only the UI needs an improvement. What I would like to was to create a half ball out of a circle (a dome for an astromony observatory, a hobby of mine, when I do not work on MWIKI or l10n), and then add some cutting lines etc, for a mechanic to follow. Do you have already enabled the set of predefined 3D-objects? Right click the drawing toolbar Customize Check 3D-objects. The set contains a Half-Sphere. Perhaps that is already what you are searching for. That helped me halfway. Do you know the chapter about 3D-Objects in the Draw-Guide? I ask because it is not clear, how much do you already know about 3D objects. For example, do you know the difference between object properties and scene properties? No problem in asking, I know a lot about 3d objects...I used to use 3Dmax, but working with AOO, I felt I should give draw a try. Then you will probably stay with 3Dmax. Working with updating the wiki, I tried to use it :-) but the page: http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Draw_Guide is very empty ?? so where is the guide ? Documentation are made by ODFAuthors. http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/draw-guide You can use the LO guides, the difference is small. Am I wrong or is the 3D support limited to presentation and not really fit for drawing (in case not is there any work in progress) ? No, the objects are the same in Draw and Impress. One difference between Impress and Draw is, that you have animation in Impress and that you have layer in Draw. In case not, can anybody recommend a good tool, where I can import the files in AOO and write the documents. What part of AOO you want to use? If you will use Writer, then the 3D-application should be able to export to pictures. If you will produce a presentation in Impress, then Flash might work as well, you can use the Flash plugin. I actually just need draw...I have to make a drawing of a dome, made of triangels. That will only work using macros, because the rotation does not use triangles and extrusion will not generate a half sphere. You would have to place each triangle individually and that is practically nearly impossible with the current UI. So my idea was to take a half sphere and draw lines on it...in 3Dmax that is a piece of cake, because you work in 2d with X,Y,Z planes and it generates the 3d object. Therefore I ask what do you want to do with the result. If it will become a picture in the target, why not using 3Dmax? Drawing 3D-lines will be hard; using hatching or picture texture might be easier. But if it was easy in 3Dmax, I would use that application. Kind regards Regina
Re: AOO trunk build fails with HSQLDB
On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 09:07:42PM +0100, janI wrote: Why does that work on my system...I am just wondering ?? I've no idea. In theory you can use javac from JDF 7 to compile old code, and even target to an older JVM, as javac has the -source and -target options, but I've no idea if the HSQLDB ant scripts has this options set (ant's javac task supports both source and target attributes). Regards -- Ariel Constenla-Haile La Plata, Argentina pgp6uRBKrQI2U.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [question] draw...
On 16 December 2012 21:18, Regina Henschel rb.hensc...@t-online.de wrote: Hi Jan, janI schrieb: Danke.. On 16 December 2012 19:17, Regina Henschel rb.hensc...@t-online.de wrote: Hi Jan, janI schrieb: Hi. I have to make some 3D construction drawings, I tried to use draw, but is seems that the 3D functionality is very limited ?? The 3D-engine is limited concerning shadows, but the rest is usable. Only the UI needs an improvement. What I would like to was to create a half ball out of a circle (a dome for an astromony observatory, a hobby of mine, when I do not work on MWIKI or l10n), and then add some cutting lines etc, for a mechanic to follow. Do you have already enabled the set of predefined 3D-objects? Right click the drawing toolbar Customize Check 3D-objects. The set contains a Half-Sphere. Perhaps that is already what you are searching for. That helped me halfway. Do you know the chapter about 3D-Objects in the Draw-Guide? I ask because it is not clear, how much do you already know about 3D objects. For example, do you know the difference between object properties and scene properties? No problem in asking, I know a lot about 3d objects...I used to use 3Dmax, but working with AOO, I felt I should give draw a try. Then you will probably stay with 3Dmax. Would love to, but I cannot afford to use it as a private person, I used to work with it in a company. But I trust that draw will do what I need, AOO is a good package !! Working with updating the wiki, I tried to use it :-) but the page: http://wiki.openoffice.org/**wiki/Draw_Guidehttp://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Draw_Guide is very empty ?? so where is the guide ? Documentation are made by ODFAuthors. http://www.odfauthors.org/**libreoffice/english/draw-guidehttp://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/draw-guide You can use the LO guides, the difference is small. Thanks, maybe we should update our wiki pages at some point. Am I wrong or is the 3D support limited to presentation and not really fit for drawing (in case not is there any work in progress) ? No, the objects are the same in Draw and Impress. One difference between Impress and Draw is, that you have animation in Impress and that you have layer in Draw. In case not, can anybody recommend a good tool, where I can import the files in AOO and write the documents. What part of AOO you want to use? If you will use Writer, then the 3D-application should be able to export to pictures. If you will produce a presentation in Impress, then Flash might work as well, you can use the Flash plugin. I actually just need draw...I have to make a drawing of a dome, made of triangels. That will only work using macros, because the rotation does not use triangles and extrusion will not generate a half sphere. You would have to place each triangle individually and that is practically nearly impossible with the current UI. So my idea was to take a half sphere and draw lines on it...in 3Dmax that is a piece of cake, because you work in 2d with X,Y,Z planes and it generates the 3d object. Therefore I ask what do you want to do with the result. If it will become a picture in the target, why not using 3Dmax? Drawing 3D-lines will be hard; using hatching or picture texture might be easier. But if it was easy in 3Dmax, I would use that application. Kind regards Regina
Re: [WEBSITE] Problem with .htm files
On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 2:47 PM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: I had a long discussion with Infra today trying to find out why a change I had applied was not appearing. Analyzing it, it turns out that we have a problem already visible on over 400 pages and related to .htm files (as opposed to .html files). Reproducing is easy: 1) Edit a .htm file, e.g., do this: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/pt/about/newsletter.htm?r1=1413471r2=1422592diff_format=h 2) Publish the changes and you get file duplication: http://www.openoffice.org/pt/about/newsletter.htm (the existing URL, ending in .htm, not updated) http://www.openoffice.org/pt/about/newsletter.html (a new URL, containing the fix) This silent change of URLs is quite scary and we already have 401 duplicate pages. For other examples see http://www.openoffice.org/fr/Documentation/liens.htm http://www.openoffice.org/fr/Documentation/liens.html When I build locally I see that input htm files are published as html files. But I don't see any duplications. Maybe the duplicates are just left over from earlier? or http://www.openoffice.org/ui/proposals/Readonly_mode.htm http://www.openoffice.org/ui/proposals/Readonly_mode.html Daniel Shahaf, who investigated the problem, suggests that we take a look at our path.pm. Looking at it, I think the place to start investigating is line 14 of http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/lib/path.pm?revision=1413471view=markup which seems to actually turn .htm files into .html files, but it's probably best that someone familiar with the CMS does the change, since I definitely don't want to break the website. Regards, Andrea.
Re: AOO trunk build fails with HSQLDB
Ariel, removing all JDK7 worked! Heck yes. This time it failed at VCL: make: *** No rule to make target `/usr/lib/jvm/java-7-openjdk-amd64/include/jni.h', needed by `/home/ljdelight/aoo/trunk/main/solver/350/unxlngx6.pro/workdir/CxxObject/vcl/source/window/syschild.o'. Stop. I'll double check my dirs are clear, java_home is set, and double check I destroyed all jdk7 in synaptic. Thanks a bunch. Lucas On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 2:26 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile arie...@apache.org wrote: On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 09:07:42PM +0100, janI wrote: Why does that work on my system...I am just wondering ?? I've no idea. In theory you can use javac from JDF 7 to compile old code, and even target to an older JVM, as javac has the -source and -target options, but I've no idea if the HSQLDB ant scripts has this options set (ant's javac task supports both source and target attributes). Regards -- Ariel Constenla-Haile La Plata, Argentina
Re: AOO trunk build fails with HSQLDB
Hi Lucas, On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 02:53:58PM -0600, Lucas Burson wrote: Ariel, removing all JDK7 worked! Heck yes. ups I didn't suggest that! This may break your system, at least it does in Fedora, where all java stuff is built with Java 7, targeted to a JVM 7. The best thing is to download a JDK 6 from Oracle, install it in /opt and configure --with-jdk-home, this way you don't break your system. This time it failed at VCL: make: *** No rule to make target `/usr/lib/jvm/java-7-openjdk-amd64/include/jni.h', needed by the build system is still looking for stuff from the JDK 7, as the path suggests: java-7-openjdk-amd64 I guess LinuxX86-64Env.Set.sh has some old variables, look at JAVA_HOME because the includes are generated from that variable, see SOLARINC SOLARINC=-I$JAVA_HOME/include -I$JAVA_HOME/include/linux -I$JAVA_HOME/include/native_threads/include `/home/ljdelight/aoo/trunk/main/solver/350/unxlngx6.pro/workdir/CxxObject/vcl/source/window/syschild.o'. Stop. I'll double check my dirs are clear, java_home is set, and double check I destroyed all jdk7 in synaptic. If you removed everything from JDK7, then run ./configure again so that it updates LinuxX86-64Env.Set.sh If it still fails, make sure to explicitly point to the JDK directory configuring with --with-jdk-home Regards -- Ariel Constenla-Haile La Plata, Argentina pgpJQAW07998S.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: AOO trunk build fails with HSQLDB
On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 12:13 PM, Pedro Giffuni p...@apache.org wrote:
- Original Message -
From: Ariel Constenla-Haile
Hi Lucas,
On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 01:52:49PM -0600, Lucas Burson wrote:
Hi,
...
It fails. I get a bunch of compiler errors about abstract methods not
being overridden:
[javac]
/home/ljdelight/aoo/trunk/main/hsqldb/unxlngx6.pro/misc/build/hsqldb/src/org/hsqldb/jdbc/jdbcStatement.java:127:
error: jdbcStatement is not abstract and does not override abstract
method isCloseOnCompletion() in Statement
[javac] public class jdbcStatement implements Statement {
[javac]^
This method was added on Java 7, see
http://docs.oracle.com/javase/7/docs/api/java/sql/Statement.html#isCloseOnCompletion%28%29
There is a patch in debian that adds some stubs for this. The real solution
is updating hsqldb
though.
On the subject of Java 7, someone should look at
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=121098
The fix is rather trivial.
Pedro.
Pedro --
I took a look at this issues. Would this allow us to build with java 7?
I'm wondering about this because our buildbots are configured with
java 6 and I *really* think we should go onto 7 if at all possible.
--
MzK
No act of kindness, no matter how small, is ever wasted.
-- Aesop
Re: [WEBSITE] Problem with .htm files
Dave Fisher wrote: I think that we can purge these *.htm duplicates, but if we do it will be a sledgehammer build. It will also be a problem, unless we accompany it with other changes: for example, http://www.openoffice.org/pt/ would completely break, and all external sites that now link to some of our .htm files would break too. It was intentional. Before doing so we would need to make a group decision about how to treat the two types of files. Regardless of what templates we apply, the best solution should: 1) Allow a .htaccess redirect/rewrite from .htm to .html (to preserve existing internal and external links) 2) Have the SVN file names match the URLs: editing a file named news.htm in SVN should not result in a change in a page with URL .../news.html. The current handling confuses the CMS too (for example, no diff is reported). So either we mass-rename files from .htm to .html and rely on 1) above, or we don't change .htm to .html but publish .htm URLs. There are two different procedures from view.pm used: ... There are several templates used from templates/. To me, .htm and .html are not different file types and were never used as such: I mean, volunteers historically committed .htm or .html according to their habits, but it doesn't make sense to have different ways of handling them now. So I would tend to rename all .htm to .html and put the .htaccess redirect in place, and have only one type of HTML files to handle. Regards, Andrea.
Re: AOO trunk build fails with HSQLDB
Hello Kay; Yes, I can confirm after solving those two issues,we got OpenOffice building with JDK 7 on FreeBSD: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/editors/openoffice-3-devel/files/ Pedro.
Re: [question] draw...
On 12/16/2012 14:08, janI wrote: [snip] Working with updating the wiki, I tried to use it :-) but the page: http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Draw_Guide is very empty ?? so where is the guide ? The v2 guide on the wiki is out of date, but it's there. All the wikified guides work the same way: use the purple TOC box at the right. A v3.3 guide is available in ODT[1] and PDF. The links are described on the wiki documentation page. [1] http://wiki.openoffice.org/w/images/5/50/0400DG33-OOoDraw3.odt /tj/
Can I get permission to upload files to UX wiki?
Hi， I'd like to continue the working on the UX wiki and usually need to share ideas or screenshots on UX wiki. I need to upload side bar design ideas screenshots to UX wiki and can not upload files these days. Can I get the permission to upload files? My wiki account is Xinli . Thanks very much! -- Best regards, Xin Li 李欣 UX designer
Re: [Blog Draft] Update about Apache Asia Road Show Beijing 2012 @Dec 13
Hi, all, I just want to give you an update that we had a successful Apache OpenOffice session last Thursday (Dec 13) on Apache Asia Road Show 2012 Beijing. Thanks to Peter, Tao and Da Li for the speech! The topics covered AOO general introduction, contributions from local volunteers, how to join community and make contribution, and building social/cloud solutions by integrating with AOO. We also distributed AOO promotion materials that prepared by Da Li. We got more than 100 audience participated in the OpenOffice session 14:00-15:00. Most of them are technical people from different companies and universities. Per my check during my speech, only 20 had used OpenOffice before. So it is really a good promotion of our product and community. We are refining the presentations and will publish them later. Thanks! - Shenfeng (Simon) 2012/12/5 Peter Junge peter.ju...@gmx.org OK. On 12/5/2012 4:55 PM, Shenfeng Liu wrote: Peter, Thanks for your comments! I added the speaker names per the presenting sequence. Apache OpenOffice in Apache Asia Road Show Beijing 2012 at December 13 Apache Asia Road Show Beijing 2012 will be held at December 13, and Apache OpenOffice will deliver a session in the conference. In the Apache OpenOffice session, Peter Junge, Apache OpenOffice PMC member, will give a speech to introduce Apache OpenOffice, its history and way in Apache. And other contributors in Beijing, Shenfeng Liu, Hongyun An, Tao Liu and Dali Liu, will also give their speech to share the best practice of contributing to the open source community, as well as building enterprise business and Cloud/Social solution on top of Apache OpenOffice. Please visit the Apache Asia Road Show Beijing 2012 website and register: http://apacheasiaroadshow04.eventbrite.com . We are looking forward to seeing you there! Apache OpenOffice将在12月13日Apache Asia Road Show Beijing 2012大会上介绍其发展及解决方案 Apache Asia Road Show Beijing 2012将于12月13日在北京中关村软件园举行。届时Apache OpenOffice将在大会上介绍其发展及相关解决方案。 在论坛上，Apache OpenOffice项目管理委员会成员Peter Junge将首先介绍Apache OpenOffice及其历史和发展方向。其他在北京的Apache OpenOffice志愿者，刘慎锋，安红云，刘涛，刘大力等，也会分享在Apache OpenOffice开源社区做贡献的经验，以及如何基于Apache OpenOffice开发企业应用和云计算及社交解决方案。 欢迎大家到Apache Asia Road Show Beijing 2012网站注册： http://apacheasiaroadshow04.eventbrite.com！让我们共同关注Apache OpenOffice，共同推动开源社区的发展！ - Shenfeng (Simon) 2012/12/5 Peter Junge peter.ju...@gmx.org I would also mention the names of the other speakers. Apart from that it's OK. Peter On 12/4/2012 11:15 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 11:21 PM, Shenfeng Liu liush...@gmail.com wrote: Don, Thanks for your suggestion! Here is my draft of the blog, in English Chinese. Please review and give your comments! I found myself not able to edit the blog directly, so I wonder if you or any one else can help to post? Thanks very much! Here is the post, in draft form on the blog: https://blogs.apache.org/**preview/OOo/?previewEntry=** apache_asia_road_show_beijing https://blogs.apache.org/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=apache_asia_road_show_beijing Let me know if it is OK and I will publish it. -Rob --**-- Apache OpenOffice in Apache Asia Road Show Beijing 2012 at December 13 Apache Asia Road Show Beijing 2012 will be held at December 13, and Apache OpenOffice will deliver a session in the conference. In the Apache OpenOffice session, Peter Junge, Apache OpenOffice PMC member, will give a speech to introduce Apache OpenOffice, its history and way in Apache. And other contributors in Beijing will also give their speech to share the best practice of contributing to the open source community, as well as building enterprise business and Cloud/Social solution on top of Apache OpenOffice. Please visit the Apache Asia Road Show Beijing 2012 website and register: http://apacheasiaroadshow04.**eventbrite.com http://apacheasiaroadshow04.eventbrite.com. We are looking forward to seeing you there! --**-- Apache OpenOffice将在12月13日Apache Asia Road Show Beijing 2012大会上介绍其发展及解决方案 Apache Asia Road Show Beijing 2012将于12月13日在北京中关村软件园举行。**届时Apache OpenOffice将在大会上介绍其发展及相关解决方案。 在论坛上，Apache OpenOffice项目管理委员会成员Peter Junge将首先介绍Apache OpenOffice及其历史和发展方向。**其他在北京的Apache OpenOffice志愿者也会分享在Apache OpenOffice开源社区做贡献的经验，**以及如何基于Apache OpenOffice开发企业应用和云计算及社交解决方案。 欢迎大家到Apache Asia Road Show Beijing 2012网站注册： http://apacheasiaroadshow04.**eventbrite.com http://apacheasiaroadshow04.eventbrite.com ！让我们共同关注Apache OpenOffice，共同推动开源社区的发展！
