Re: [IMPORTANT, DISCUSS]: no migration/use of former user profile with AOO 4.0
On 14.01.2013 22:50, Hagar Delest wrote: Le 14/01/2013 12:06, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann a écrit : Does exist a description (may be inclusive a blob of the former user profile) to reproduce the problem? Sadly, no. XP seems the version where it occurs the most. Was the profile migration problem also reported on Mac, Linux or FreeBSD? If it was mostly an XP problem then the observation by Stephan Bergmann mentioned in http://ooo-forums.apache.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?t=55017p=242599#p242632 could be real the root cause of all our profile migration related instabilities. The (very incomplete) stacks of the crash that I saw all mentioned the update service being involved. This also fits with the observation that the crash apparently happened after a predictable time, e.g. 30 secs, which would also point to a problem in the update service. Next time I'll try to make a copy of the whole profile. We're looking forward to it, thanks! Herbert
Re: Adding a new type of cursor on LINUX platform
On 15.01.2013 11:28, Herbert Duerr wrote: On 15.01.2013 09:40, Liang Weike wrote: I want to add a new type of cursor into office. Currently I've finished it on Windows. But when I run it on Linux the new cursor disappears. So how to write #_mask.h and #_curs.h? And does it come from the converted .cur file? If it does, then how to convert? I'm afraid the tool that did such conversions is no longer available and has to be rewritten. The format of these *_mask.h and *_curs.h files are the ones written out by X11's XWriteBitmapFile() [1] function. The Windows CUR file format is described in [2]. [1] http://www.x.org/archive/X11R7.5/doc/man/man3/XReadBitmapFile.3.html [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ICO_%28icon_image_file_format%29 FWIW both imagemagick and icotool can read *.cur files and convert them to a more common format. You'd also need to use the MAKE_CURSOR macro in main/vcl/unx/generic/app/saldisp.cxx and main/vcl/unx/gtk/app/gtkdata.cxx Hope that helps, Herbert
Re: Build OpenOffice 3.4.1 - Error in module
Hi, On 15.01.2013 10:53, Fabrizio Sancin wrote: Hello, I have tried to build OpenOffice using the steps described here: http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO/Step_by_step My platform is windows 7 x64 sp1 I downloaded Source release at http://www.openoffice.org/download/other.html#tested-sdk Everything worked out just fine until i ran the command build --all in cygwin, after compiling one hour, the error i got was: = Building module comphelper = Entering /tmp/aoo-3.4.1/main/comphelper/prj cd .. make -s -r -j1 make -s -r deliverlog [ info ALL ] LinkTarget Library/isal.lib not defined: Assuming headers to be there! [ info ALL ] LinkTarget Library/icppuhelper.lib not defined: Assuming headers to be there! [ info ALL ] LinkTarget Library/icppu.lib not defined: Assuming headers to be there! [ info ALL ] LinkTarget Library/iucbhelper.lib not defined: Assuming headers to be there! [ info ALL ] LinkTarget Library/ivos.lib not defined: Assuming headers to be there! [ info ALL ] LinkTarget Library/stlport_vc71.lib not defined: Assuming headers to be there! [ info ALL ] LinkTarget Library/uwinapi.lib not defined: Assuming headers to be there! [ info ALL ] LinkTarget Library/kernel32.lib not defined: Assuming headers to be there! [ info ALL ] LinkTarget Library/msvcrt.lib not defined: Assuming headers to be there! [ info ALL ] LinkTarget Library/oldnames.lib not defined: Assuming headers to be there! [ build PKG ] comphelper_inc [ build PCH ] precompiled_comphelper precompiled_comphelper.cxx awk: fatal: can't open source file `C:/cygwinc:/cygwin/tmp/aoo-3.4.1/main/solenv/gbuild/processdeps.awk' for reading (No such file or directory) C:/cygwin/tmp/aoo-3.4.1/main/solenv/gbuild/PrecompiledHeaders.mk:49: recipe for target `/tmp/aoo-3.4.1/main/solver/341/ wntmsci12.pro/workdir/PrecompiledHeader/nodebug/precompiled_comphelper.hxx.pch' failed make: *** [/tmp/aoo-3.4.1/main/solver/341/ wntmsci12.pro/workdir/PrecompiledHeader/nodebug/precompiled_comphelper.hxx.pch] Error 2 dmake: Error code 2, while making 'all' 1 module(s): comphelper need(s) to be rebuilt Reason(s): ERROR: error 65280 occurred while making /tmp/aoo-3.4.1/main/comphelper/prj When you have fixed the errors in that module you can resume the build by running: build --all:comphelper Please help if you can! Thank you! It looks like that you have somehow lost (or never had) the file main/solenv/gbuild/processdeps.awk Are you working with a source release or a SVN checkout of the source code repository? If you are working on a SVN checkout the following command will bring back the file: svn update main/solenv/gbuild/processdeps.awk Best regards, Oliver.
Re: Blogging volunteers
On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 8:03 AM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.orgwrote: The next weeks will see a release, two conferences and the 4.0 preparations. With so many topics to talk about, I suggest that everybody who may want to blog about OpenOffice on our official blog http://blogs.apache.org/OOo/asks for a Roller account in advance. The project blog is in English, but don't worry about the language, we have native speakers who can proofread posts. All you need is to reply to this message on ooo-dev and ask for an account here; we will then ask Infra to create the accounts. Regards, Andrea. I'm open to write periodically blog posts about AOO Extensions and Templates based on downloads figures as well as about the new features that we'll make available (end of February and end of April are the next delivery dates). Roberto -- This e- mail message is intended only for the named recipient(s) above. It may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail and any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by replying to this e-mail and delete the message and any attachment(s) from your system. Thank you.
Re: Build OpenOffice 3.4.1 - Error in module
Hi, Oliver I built it with a source release. Now I'm build trying with SVN : https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/ooo/trunk then, I will follow your advice. See what happens. Thank you, Fabrizio. 2013/1/15 Oliver-Rainer Wittmann orwittm...@googlemail.com Hi, On 15.01.2013 10:53, Fabrizio Sancin wrote: Hello, I have tried to build OpenOffice using the steps described here: http://wiki.openoffice.org/**wiki/Documentation/Building_** Guide_AOO/Step_by_stephttp://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO/Step_by_step My platform is windows 7 x64 sp1 I downloaded Source release at http://www.openoffice.org/**download/other.html#tested-sdkhttp://www.openoffice.org/download/other.html#tested-sdk Everything worked out just fine until i ran the command build --all in cygwin, after compiling one hour, the error i got was: = Building module comphelper = Entering /tmp/aoo-3.4.1/main/**comphelper/prj cd .. make -s -r -j1 make -s -r deliverlog [ info ALL ] LinkTarget Library/isal.lib not defined: Assuming headers to be there! [ info ALL ] LinkTarget Library/icppuhelper.lib not defined: Assuming headers to be there! [ info ALL ] LinkTarget Library/icppu.lib not defined: Assuming headers to be there! [ info ALL ] LinkTarget Library/iucbhelper.lib not defined: Assuming headers to be there! [ info ALL ] LinkTarget Library/ivos.lib not defined: Assuming headers to be there! [ info ALL ] LinkTarget Library/stlport_vc71.lib not defined: Assuming headers to be there! [ info ALL ] LinkTarget Library/uwinapi.lib not defined: Assuming headers to be there! [ info ALL ] LinkTarget Library/kernel32.lib not defined: Assuming headers to be there! [ info ALL ] LinkTarget Library/msvcrt.lib not defined: Assuming headers to be there! [ info ALL ] LinkTarget Library/oldnames.lib not defined: Assuming headers to be there! [ build PKG ] comphelper_inc [ build PCH ] precompiled_comphelper precompiled_comphelper.cxx awk: fatal: can't open source file `C:/cygwinc:/cygwin/tmp/aoo-3.**4.1/main/solenv/gbuild/**processdeps.awk' for reading (No such file or directory) C:/cygwin/tmp/aoo-3.4.1/main/**solenv/gbuild/**PrecompiledHeaders.mk:49: recipe for target `/tmp/aoo-3.4.1/main/solver/**341/ wntmsci12.pro/workdir/**PrecompiledHeader/nodebug/** precompiled_comphelper.hxx.pchhttp://wntmsci12.pro/workdir/PrecompiledHeader/nodebug/precompiled_comphelper.hxx.pch **' failed make: *** [/tmp/aoo-3.4.1/main/solver/**341/ wntmsci12.pro/workdir/**PrecompiledHeader/nodebug/** precompiled_comphelper.hxx.pchhttp://wntmsci12.pro/workdir/PrecompiledHeader/nodebug/precompiled_comphelper.hxx.pch **] Error 2 dmake: Error code 2, while making 'all' 1 module(s): comphelper need(s) to be rebuilt Reason(s): ERROR: error 65280 occurred while making /tmp/aoo-3.4.1/main/** comphelper/prj When you have fixed the errors in that module you can resume the build by running: build --all:comphelper Please help if you can! Thank you! It looks like that you have somehow lost (or never had) the file main/solenv/gbuild/**processdeps.awk Are you working with a source release or a SVN checkout of the source code repository? If you are working on a SVN checkout the following command will bring back the file: svn update main/solenv/gbuild/**processdeps.awk Best regards, Oliver.
Re: Build OpenOffice 3.4.1 - Error in module
Hi, On 15.01.2013 12:51, Fabrizio Sancin wrote: Hi, Oliver I built it with a source release. Now I'm build trying with SVN : https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/ooo/trunk then, I will follow your advice. See what happens. Thus, I assume that the file is missing in your environment. Right? Before doing the huge step to setup another complete environment you might should have a look into the source release package, if the file is available. If it is available, just extract this file from the source release package and copy it at its expected location. Best regards, Oliver. 2013/1/15 Oliver-Rainer Wittmann orwittm...@googlemail.com Hi, On 15.01.2013 10:53, Fabrizio Sancin wrote: Hello, I have tried to build OpenOffice using the steps described here: http://wiki.openoffice.org/**wiki/Documentation/Building_** Guide_AOO/Step_by_stephttp://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO/Step_by_step My platform is windows 7 x64 sp1 I downloaded Source release at http://www.openoffice.org/**download/other.html#tested-sdkhttp://www.openoffice.org/download/other.html#tested-sdk Everything worked out just fine until i ran the command build --all in cygwin, after compiling one hour, the error i got was: = Building module comphelper = Entering /tmp/aoo-3.4.1/main/**comphelper/prj cd .. make -s -r -j1 make -s -r deliverlog [ info ALL ] LinkTarget Library/isal.lib not defined: Assuming headers to be there! [ info ALL ] LinkTarget Library/icppuhelper.lib not defined: Assuming headers to be there! [ info ALL ] LinkTarget Library/icppu.lib not defined: Assuming headers to be there! [ info ALL ] LinkTarget Library/iucbhelper.lib not defined: Assuming headers to be there! [ info ALL ] LinkTarget Library/ivos.lib not defined: Assuming headers to be there! [ info ALL ] LinkTarget Library/stlport_vc71.lib not defined: Assuming headers to be there! [ info ALL ] LinkTarget Library/uwinapi.lib not defined: Assuming headers to be there! [ info ALL ] LinkTarget Library/kernel32.lib not defined: Assuming headers to be there! [ info ALL ] LinkTarget Library/msvcrt.lib not defined: Assuming headers to be there! [ info ALL ] LinkTarget Library/oldnames.lib not defined: Assuming headers to be there! [ build PKG ] comphelper_inc [ build PCH ] precompiled_comphelper precompiled_comphelper.cxx awk: fatal: can't open source file `C:/cygwinc:/cygwin/tmp/aoo-3.**4.1/main/solenv/gbuild/**processdeps.awk' for reading (No such file or directory) C:/cygwin/tmp/aoo-3.4.1/main/**solenv/gbuild/**PrecompiledHeaders.mk:49: recipe for target `/tmp/aoo-3.4.1/main/solver/**341/ wntmsci12.pro/workdir/**PrecompiledHeader/nodebug/** precompiled_comphelper.hxx.pchhttp://wntmsci12.pro/workdir/PrecompiledHeader/nodebug/precompiled_comphelper.hxx.pch **' failed make: *** [/tmp/aoo-3.4.1/main/solver/**341/ wntmsci12.pro/workdir/**PrecompiledHeader/nodebug/** precompiled_comphelper.hxx.pchhttp://wntmsci12.pro/workdir/PrecompiledHeader/nodebug/precompiled_comphelper.hxx.pch **] Error 2 dmake: Error code 2, while making 'all' 1 module(s): comphelper need(s) to be rebuilt Reason(s): ERROR: error 65280 occurred while making /tmp/aoo-3.4.1/main/** comphelper/prj When you have fixed the errors in that module you can resume the build by running: build --all:comphelper Please help if you can! Thank you! It looks like that you have somehow lost (or never had) the file main/solenv/gbuild/**processdeps.awk Are you working with a source release or a SVN checkout of the source code repository? If you are working on a SVN checkout the following command will bring back the file: svn update main/solenv/gbuild/**processdeps.awk Best regards, Oliver.
Re: Apache OpenOffice at FOSDEM 2013
On Jan 14, 2013, at 7:43 PM, Drew Jensen drewjensen.in...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, A couple of quick questions as I finish up the tri-fold brochure: Supported operating systems - the original lists in three places with three different sets of OS: (fr cover) Windows, Linux, Unix, OS/2, OS X, Solaris (bk cover) Windows, Linux, FreeBSD, IBM OS/2, OS X, Solaris So, I believe the back cover is more correct, and would use it for both? In a body section it again lists them, but differentiates between what is available from the main AOO website (Win, Linux, OS X) and those from third parties (OS/2, Solaris, Free BSD and Portable) and lists this link, http://www.openoffice.org/porting/ to find these. This is going to go away, yes? What would you like for this link? That Page is not going away. We're only talking about moving the /porting/Mac page. -Rob Oh one other thing, anyone know what overgangsëffecten translates to, the only word I'm lost on. Thanks, Drew On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 4:37 PM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.orgwrote: On 09/01/2013 Andrea Pescetti wrote: Schedule now ready at https://fosdem.org/2013/**schedule/track/apache_**openoffice/https://fosdem.org/2013/schedule/track/apache_openoffice/ The organizers asked to shift everything one hour forward. The updated devroom schedule is now online at the same address. The devroom will run 11 to 18.30, in line with all the other Saturday devrooms. Regards, Andrea.
Re: Blogging volunteers
On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 2:03 AM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: The next weeks will see a release, two conferences and the 4.0 preparations. With so many topics to talk about, I suggest that everybody who may want to blog about OpenOffice on our official blog http://blogs.apache.org/OOo/ asks for a Roller account in advance. The project blog is in English, but don't worry about the language, we have native speakers who can proofread posts. Thanks for encouraging more blogging volunteers. I'm happy to help with the editing as well. Everyone should note that a blog post does not need to be lengthy. A mix of short update and longer expository pieces are great. Having a regular heartbeat of communications is the important thing. And if you want to help, but don't know what to write about, then consider this: Offer to do an interview, via email or Skype, with another project member, or an extension author, or an OpenOffice book author. Turn that interview into a blog post. This helps promote the project and the ecosystem. Regards, -Rob All you need is to reply to this message on ooo-dev and ask for an account here; we will then ask Infra to create the accounts. Regards, Andrea.
Re: (Draft) Introduction to Development module
On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 3:44 AM, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann orwittm...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi, On 14.01.2013 20:01, Rob Weir wrote: http://openoffice.apache.org/orientation/intro-development.html The idea here is to have a dev-focused introduction page that works along side the similar pages we have for Marketing and QA. This is the first draft. I already see a few typos, so don't worry about those. But I am looking for more content. What else should we put here? Any other links? Any other startup tasks? I think it makes sense to include the link to the OpenGrok instance from Adfinis Sygroup [1] which can be also used to inspect the source code. [1] http://opengrok.adfinis-sygroup.org/source/ Thanks! I made changes, mainly additions, based on your feedback and earlier comments from Kay and Jan. Here is the updated version: http://openoffice.apache.org/orientation/intro-development.html -Rob Best regards, Oliver.
Re: Apache OpenOffice at FOSDEM 2013
Hi all, is there any official/unofficial FOSDEM template (or at least a guideline for logos, elements or styles that should be shared between presentations) for AOO track? Best regards, Fabrizio
Re: Adapt the naming of our project deliverables - OpenOffice.org -- Apache OpenOffice
Hi, On 11.01.2013 15:06, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: On 1/10/13 3:56 PM, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote: Hi, On 10.01.2013 11:55, Rony G. Flatscher wrote: Hi Oliver-Rainer, On 10.01.2013 11:23, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote: I have finished the renaming from OpenOffice.org to Apache OpenOffice - see issue 121388. Beside corresponding changes in the user interface this change has impact on the following important and critical stuff: - folder/directory names - package names - Windows registry key names and values - ... As the folder/directory path to the user profile is also changed, the user profile of a former installed AOO (or OOo) version is not taken over. for installation script purposes of add-ons etc., where can one find the concrete strings for folder/directory names on the various operating system platforms and the Windows registry key names and values? Unfortunately, there is no single place in the source code. I also had not the resources to clean this up during the renaming work - hint, hint, hint :-) Please have a look at issue 121388, the wiki page referenced in one of the issue's comments and the intrinsic changes I have made. The product installation folder is more or less a form of the $PRODUCTNAME + [major version number]. E.g.: - Windows: Apache OpenOffice 3 - Linux: apache_openoffice3 On Linux platforms we have also the basis installation folder. It name is found in /main/instsetoo_native/util/openoffice.lst The user profile folder is more or less $PRODUCTNAME/[major version number]/ The Windows registry keys and values can be found in module main/scp2/ I hope that helps a little bit. I was thinking about the name and here I mean the name that is used for the folder etc. The name is used in the help, in tools option, in the menu... We changed OpenOffice.org to Apache OpenOffice so good so far. But would it be nicer to shorten the folder, menu entries, ... to simply OpenOffice Folders Linux: /opt/openoffice4 Mac: OpenOffice.app Windows: OpenOffice 4 Tools Option OpenOffice OpenOffice Writer OpenOffice ... Help OpenOffice instead of hundreds of Apache OpenOffice The idea is that the project and product is called Apache OpenOffice but in practice we would use in the product the short from OpenOffice. The intro, start center, about can of course use images where we use Apache OpenOffice. Well it's just an idea and I know it would require some further work but now would be the time for it. I believe legally should it be ok today but it have to checked to be safe. What's your opinion? It looks like that Jürgen's suggestion does not get any objections, quite the contrary happened. Thus, if nobody objects I will reopen issue 121388 and work on it to adapt the naming as suggested by Jürgen. Best regards, Oliver.
Re: [WEBSITE] broken link on mac porting page
On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 8:36 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: Sorry for top posting, but I think we've discussed this enough to have a sense of what our constraints are. A quick proposal: Let's start from this page: http://www.openoffice.org/product/ That is linked to prominently from the homepage and the top navigation bar. I propose adding a new section to the left navigation panel, between Products and More. The new section will be called Platforms and will link to four pages: 1) Windows 2) Mac 3) Linux 4) Ports The first three will be new landing pages. The last one will link to the existing /porting page. Each of the platform pages will have basic system requirements and a link to the download page. They pages can grow to contain (or link to) other platform specific instructions or FAQ's. As an example, here is what the windows page might look like: http://www.openoffice.org/product/windows.html We could try to keep the other platforms in a parallel form. -Rob -Rob On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 8:35 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 2:18 AM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: Rob Weir wrote: I could see /platforms/mac if we imagine creating in the future similar landing pages for Windows or Linux. Note that today, a query of OpenOffice for Linux has this ancient page as a #1 hit: http://www.openoffice.org/dev_docs/setup-linux.html And the #1 hit for OpenOffice for Windows is not even at our website. It goes to CNet's download.com page. Very interesting. Indeed this could also be the way to catch users who look for OpenOffice Portable, for example, and should know that we do have a (third-party, from winPenPack) version available; they are now offered an ancient version since OpenOffice Portable has not been updated yet. The updated version is not on the first page of search results. Exactly. In the last month we've seen the following related queries: openoffice portable 2,500 open office portable1,000 openoffice portable italiano150 apache openoffice portable 16 portable90 openoffice portable download16 portable openoffice 12 openofficeportable 10 office portable 10 openoffice portable日本語版 10 openoffice portable 3.4 10 openoffice 3.4 portable 10 openoffice portable deutsch 10 openoffice.org portable 日本語版10 portable open office10 openoffice.org portable 10 openoffice portable 日本語 10 For many of these queries the #1 page is the German page: http://www.openoffice.org/de/downloads/oooportable.html. That is not the optimal page for most of these queries. -Rob Regards, Andrea.
Re: Error (maybe) installing yesterdays daily build
Hi, Will fully remove both currently installed versions (daily from 3 days ago and yesterday) and install rev. 1433282 clean - and see how that goes with desktop integration. Downloading that now. (have a slow link right at present so will be a short while) //drew On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 3:15 AM, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann orwittm...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi, On 15.01.2013 07:50, Drew Jensen wrote: Howdy, I just installed the 64bit Linux daily build from yesterday and ran into an error I don't remember seeing before. I'm not installing this in parallel, BTW, the platform is Ubuntu 12.10 with LibreOffice completely removed. I install the desktop integration files each time when I do. So the main files went in fine, with the new directory names under /opt The desktop integration however gave these error messages: dpkg: regarding apache_openoffice3.5-debian-**menus_3.5-9611_all.deb containing apache: apache2.2-common conflicts with apache apache (version 3.5-9611) is to be installed. dpkg: error processing apache_openoffice3.5-debian-** menus_3.5-9611_all.deb (--install): conflicting packages - not installing apache Errors were encountered while processing: apache_openoffice3.5-debian-**menus_3.5-9611_all.deb Just thought I'd pass it along. Thanks for passing it along. I assume that this error is caused by the changes for the renaming - issue 121388 - as also the packages had been renamed. Can somebody with expertise in the area of debian packages help me to solve the issue? Thanks in advance, Oliver.
Re: (Draft) Introduction to Development module
Hi Rob, Rob Weir schrieb: On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 3:44 AM, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann orwittm...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi, On 14.01.2013 20:01, Rob Weir wrote: http://openoffice.apache.org/orientation/intro-development.html The idea here is to have a dev-focused introduction page that works along side the similar pages we have for Marketing and QA. This is the first draft. I already see a few typos, so don't worry about those. But I am looking for more content. What else should we put here? Any other links? Any other startup tasks? There exists different type of development: - changing the core - using AOO in other applications - adding functionality to AOO via extensions and macros Your text addresses only changing the core. That is likely correct, when someone reaches that page following a hierarchical instruction. But nowadays pages are more often found by searching. So my suggestion is, to make a short page for the other type of development and add at the beginning of your text, the target audience of your page and a reference to the other page. I don' know, whether an introduction page for the other kind of development already exist. But it should contain hints to: - a...@openoffice.apache.org - existence and download of SDK - http://www.openoffice.org/api/docs/common/ref/com/sun/star/module-ix.html - http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/BASIC_Guide - http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/DevGuide/OpenOffice.org_Developers_Guide [- http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Using_Cpp_with_the_OOo_SDK, if it will be continued] I think it makes sense to include the link to the OpenGrok instance from Adfinis Sygroup [1] which can be also used to inspect the source code. [1] http://opengrok.adfinis-sygroup.org/source/ Thanks! I made changes, mainly additions, based on your feedback and earlier comments from Kay and Jan. Here is the updated version: http://openoffice.apache.org/orientation/intro-development.html The section 'Other Useful Resources' should have a link to http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Source_code_directories and http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Coding_Standards and http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Writer/Code_Conventions However, they seem to need revision and additions. But they are useful for newcomer nevertheless. A hint to Doxygen for LibreOffice. The tool is helpful and it would be nice to have a similar thing for AOO. If a module has it, you can get it when you click on the module name in http://docs.libreoffice.org/ and then on 'Doxygen'. Try it for example with module 'sd'. Kind regards Regina
Re: Error (maybe) installing yesterdays daily build
I should of waited to send the first email today - no, no difference, same error. On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 10:31 AM, Drew Jensen drewjensen.in...@gmail.comwrote: Hi, Will fully remove both currently installed versions (daily from 3 days ago and yesterday) and install rev. 1433282 clean - and see how that goes with desktop integration. Downloading that now. (have a slow link right at present so will be a short while) //drew On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 3:15 AM, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann orwittm...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi, On 15.01.2013 07:50, Drew Jensen wrote: Howdy, I just installed the 64bit Linux daily build from yesterday and ran into an error I don't remember seeing before. I'm not installing this in parallel, BTW, the platform is Ubuntu 12.10 with LibreOffice completely removed. I install the desktop integration files each time when I do. So the main files went in fine, with the new directory names under /opt The desktop integration however gave these error messages: dpkg: regarding apache_openoffice3.5-debian-**menus_3.5-9611_all.deb containing apache: apache2.2-common conflicts with apache apache (version 3.5-9611) is to be installed. dpkg: error processing apache_openoffice3.5-debian-** menus_3.5-9611_all.deb (--install): conflicting packages - not installing apache Errors were encountered while processing: apache_openoffice3.5-debian-**menus_3.5-9611_all.deb Just thought I'd pass it along. Thanks for passing it along. I assume that this error is caused by the changes for the renaming - issue 121388 - as also the packages had been renamed. Can somebody with expertise in the area of debian packages help me to solve the issue? Thanks in advance, Oliver.
Re: Apache OpenOffice at FOSDEM 2013
Well, this Tri-Fold flyer isn't done. I put to current file to the wiki at: http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/File:AOO_Flyer.odt The first paragraph (two actually) on page one needs re-write I think. The right hand column on page 2 certainly needs re-write. I made a subtle change with the logos, using what was in the original but without zooming one up 300%, would look terrible printed I think. So, if anyone has an ideas on those sections, feel free to just update the file directly or post a message. I'm off to do a few other things, will check here and the wiki this evening when I come back to this. Thanks //drew On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 9:30 AM, Fabrizio Marchesano fmarches...@gmail.comwrote: Hi all, is there any official/unofficial FOSDEM template (or at least a guideline for logos, elements or styles that should be shared between presentations) for AOO track? Best regards, Fabrizio
Re: Adapt the naming of our project deliverables - OpenOffice.org -- Apache OpenOffice
On Jan 14, 2013, at 2:46 AM, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote: Hi, On 12.01.2013 00:39, Dave Fisher wrote: On Jan 11, 2013, at 12:05 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote: Am 01/11/2013 03:06 PM, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt: On 1/10/13 3:56 PM, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote: Hi, On 10.01.2013 11:55, Rony G. Flatscher wrote: Hi Oliver-Rainer, On 10.01.2013 11:23, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote: I have finished the renaming from OpenOffice.org to Apache OpenOffice - see issue 121388. Beside corresponding changes in the user interface this change has impact on the following important and critical stuff: - folder/directory names - package names - Windows registry key names and values - ... As the folder/directory path to the user profile is also changed, the user profile of a former installed AOO (or OOo) version is not taken over. for installation script purposes of add-ons etc., where can one find the concrete strings for folder/directory names on the various operating system platforms and the Windows registry key names and values? Unfortunately, there is no single place in the source code. I also had not the resources to clean this up during the renaming work - hint, hint, hint :-) Please have a look at issue 121388, the wiki page referenced in one of the issue's comments and the intrinsic changes I have made. The product installation folder is more or less a form of the $PRODUCTNAME + [major version number]. E.g.: - Windows: Apache OpenOffice 3 - Linux: apache_openoffice3 On Linux platforms we have also the basis installation folder. It name is found in /main/instsetoo_native/util/openoffice.lst The user profile folder is more or less $PRODUCTNAME/[major version number]/ The Windows registry keys and values can be found in module main/scp2/ I hope that helps a little bit. I was thinking about the name and here I mean the name that is used for the folder etc. The name is used in the help, in tools option, in the menu... We changed OpenOffice.org to Apache OpenOffice so good so far. But would it be nicer to shorten the folder, menu entries, ... to simply OpenOffice Folders Linux: /opt/openoffice4 Mac: OpenOffice.app Windows: OpenOffice 4 Tools Option OpenOffice OpenOffice Writer OpenOffice ... Help OpenOffice instead of hundreds of Apache OpenOffice The idea is that the project and product is called Apache OpenOffice but in practice we would use in the product the short from OpenOffice. The intro, start center, about can of course use images where we use Apache OpenOffice. Well it's just an idea and I know it would require some further work but now would be the time for it. I believe legally should it be ok today but it have to checked to be safe. What's your opinion? In general a very good idea: Shorter menu entries, etc. and a higher attention of the open source product. And yes, we should get this clarified from trademarks@. If it is called Apache OpenOffice software or product on first use on certain pages then it is permissible to use short forms like OpenOffice in various places. There is no trouble with that approach. Look at the Apache Hadoop project's home page - http://hadoop.apache.org/ We should make sure that somewhere we use OpenOffice.org ® for the link to the website to preserve that trademark in certain jurisdictions. As you might have seen, I also changed OpenOffice.org website to Apache OpenOffice website in some place of the help content. Dave, do you think we should keep OpenOffice.org in such cases? In order to preserve registered trademark in places like China we have to have places where we show and use OpenOffice.org®. Using that for the website is one easy and important way to do that. Is there room for a phase like The Apache OpenOffice product website at OpenOffice.org®? We should likely include this in the footer in the website. Probably this needs to be a full discussion under its own topic. Regards, Dave Best regards, Oliver.
Re: Adapt the naming of our project deliverables - OpenOffice.org -- Apache OpenOffice
On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 12:53 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: On Jan 14, 2013, at 2:46 AM, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote: Hi, On 12.01.2013 00:39, Dave Fisher wrote: On Jan 11, 2013, at 12:05 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote: Am 01/11/2013 03:06 PM, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt: On 1/10/13 3:56 PM, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote: Hi, On 10.01.2013 11:55, Rony G. Flatscher wrote: Hi Oliver-Rainer, On 10.01.2013 11:23, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote: I have finished the renaming from OpenOffice.org to Apache OpenOffice - see issue 121388. Beside corresponding changes in the user interface this change has impact on the following important and critical stuff: - folder/directory names - package names - Windows registry key names and values - ... As the folder/directory path to the user profile is also changed, the user profile of a former installed AOO (or OOo) version is not taken over. for installation script purposes of add-ons etc., where can one find the concrete strings for folder/directory names on the various operating system platforms and the Windows registry key names and values? Unfortunately, there is no single place in the source code. I also had not the resources to clean this up during the renaming work - hint, hint, hint :-) Please have a look at issue 121388, the wiki page referenced in one of the issue's comments and the intrinsic changes I have made. The product installation folder is more or less a form of the $PRODUCTNAME + [major version number]. E.g.: - Windows: Apache OpenOffice 3 - Linux: apache_openoffice3 On Linux platforms we have also the basis installation folder. It name is found in /main/instsetoo_native/util/openoffice.lst The user profile folder is more or less $PRODUCTNAME/[major version number]/ The Windows registry keys and values can be found in module main/scp2/ I hope that helps a little bit. I was thinking about the name and here I mean the name that is used for the folder etc. The name is used in the help, in tools option, in the menu... We changed OpenOffice.org to Apache OpenOffice so good so far. But would it be nicer to shorten the folder, menu entries, ... to simply OpenOffice Folders Linux: /opt/openoffice4 Mac: OpenOffice.app Windows: OpenOffice 4 Tools Option OpenOffice OpenOffice Writer OpenOffice ... Help OpenOffice instead of hundreds of Apache OpenOffice The idea is that the project and product is called Apache OpenOffice but in practice we would use in the product the short from OpenOffice. The intro, start center, about can of course use images where we use Apache OpenOffice. Well it's just an idea and I know it would require some further work but now would be the time for it. I believe legally should it be ok today but it have to checked to be safe. What's your opinion? In general a very good idea: Shorter menu entries, etc. and a higher attention of the open source product. And yes, we should get this clarified from trademarks@. If it is called Apache OpenOffice software or product on first use on certain pages then it is permissible to use short forms like OpenOffice in various places. There is no trouble with that approach. Look at the Apache Hadoop project's home page - http://hadoop.apache.org/ We should make sure that somewhere we use OpenOffice.org ® for the link to the website to preserve that trademark in certain jurisdictions. As you might have seen, I also changed OpenOffice.org website to Apache OpenOffice website in some place of the help content. Dave, do you think we should keep OpenOffice.org in such cases? In order to preserve registered trademark in places like China we have to have places where we show and use OpenOffice.org®. Using that for the website is one easy and important way to do that. Is there room for a phase like The Apache OpenOffice product website at OpenOffice.org®? That won't work. The trademark is registered as: Computer software for use in database management, for use as a spreadsheet, for word processing, that may be downloaded from a global computer network; computer programs, namely, presentation graphics programs, that may be downloaded from a global computer network; software for processing images, graphics and text, that may be downloaded from a global computer network; software for typesetting of equations and formulae, that may be downloaded from a global computer network. We cannot properly use it as a trademark for a website. Or at least using it for the website does not count as continued use of the trademark as registered. But isn't it sufficient that we still distribute and support OpenOffice.org 3.3.0 and earlier? We still get downloads for earlier versions. Our website and forums still deal with earlier versions (in addition to AOO). So OpenOffice.org is a trademark still in use by us. Regards, -Rob We should likely include this in the footer in the website. Probably this needs to be a
Codesnippets: What is it? Who is hosting it? Do we still want it?
http://codesnippets.services.openoffice.org/index.xml I noticed this linked to from another page. It looks a mess. But the source does not appear to be in SVN, so I don't see any way to clean it up. -Rob
Re: Codesnippets: What is it? Who is hosting it? Do we still want it?
That service was and is hosted by a third party, predates the extension site and feature for that matter. Personally, I think it is probably superfluous these days. On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 1:54 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: http://codesnippets.services.openoffice.org/index.xml I noticed this linked to from another page. It looks a mess. But the source does not appear to be in SVN, so I don't see any way to clean it up. -Rob
Re: Codesnippets: What is it? Who is hosting it? Do we still want it?
Rob,
Am 15.01.2013 um 19:54 schrieb Rob Weir robw...@apache.org:
http://codesnippets.services.openoffice.org/index.xml
I noticed this linked to from another page. It looks a mess. But the
source does not appear to be in SVN, so I don't see any way to clean
it up.
-Rob
The corresponding e-mail of last year (March 11th, 2012), including the contact
information, attached.
HTH
---rony
Rob,
On 11.03.2012 03:26, Rob Weir wrote:
On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 9:03 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote:
Rob,
This site is not hosted by oracle.
It is another third party.
Do you have the details on that, e.g., what 3rd party? We should
probably have a conversation and ensure that suitable disclaimers are
put in place and that we're not giving one 3rd party favorable access
at the exclusion of others.
Here's the pointer with the e-mail address of the hoster.
Original Message
Subject:Re: Just a minor remark: codesnippet pages look a little bit
strange
Date:Mon, 02 Jan 2012 18:49:39 +0100
From:Rony G. Flatscher (Apache) r...@apache.org
Reply-To:ooo-...@incubator.apache.org
To:ooo-...@incubator.apache.org
Hi Dave,
On 02.01.2012 18:39, Dave Fisher wrote:
It is not hosted at Oracle, and has not been migrated.
The site is powered by Apache AxKit and BestSolutions@
Nslookup yields:
codesnippets.services.openoffice.orgcanonical name =
ancamna.bestsolution.at.
Name:ancamna.bestsolution.at
Address: 94.198.139.11
Another job for the PPMC, Infrastructure, and/or Trademarks - make contact
with bestsolutions @
contact in this case would probably be Tom.Schindl-a-t-bestsolution.at,
who has been also very
active in the Eclipse project AFAIK.
Regards,
---rony
HTH,
---rony
Re: Codesnippets: What is it? Who is hosting it? Do we still want it?
On 15.01.2013 14:19, Rob Weir wrote: On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 2:06 PM, Rony G. Flatscher rony.flatsc...@wu.ac.at wrote: Rob, Am 15.01.2013 um 19:54 schrieb Rob Weir robw...@apache.org: http://codesnippets.services.openoffice.org/index.xml I noticed this linked to from another page. It looks a mess. But the source does not appear to be in SVN, so I don't see any way to clean it up. -Rob The corresponding e-mail of last year (March 11th, 2012), including the contact information, attached. OK. Thanks. So it is external and not under our control, though obviously we could drop the DNS entry if we feel this is abandoned. I can see how having code snippets would be useful for developers, But can't we do most of this on the MWiki? Odd. I had always assumed that it was an official site supported by Sun.
Re: [WEBSITE] broken link on mac porting page
Am 01/15/2013 07:21 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk: On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 7:12 AM, Rob Weirrobw...@apache.org wrote: On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 8:36 AM, Rob Weirrobw...@apache.org wrote: Sorry for top posting, but I think we've discussed this enough to have a sense of what our constraints are. A quick proposal: Let's start from this page: http://www.openoffice.org/product/ That is linked to prominently from the homepage and the top navigation bar. I propose adding a new section to the left navigation panel, between Products and More. The new section will be called Platforms and will link to four pages: 1) Windows 2) Mac 3) Linux 4) Ports The first three will be new landing pages. The last one will link to the existing /porting page. Each of the platform pages will have basic system requirements and a link to the download page. They pages can grow to contain (or link to) other platform specific instructions or FAQ's. As an example, here is what the windows page might look like: http://www.openoffice.org/product/windows.html We could try to keep the other platforms in a parallel form. -Rob good idea! I like it! Or with a picture: http://siliconangle.com/files/2011/11/i-like.jpg :-D Marcus On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 8:35 AM, Rob Weirrobw...@apache.org wrote: On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 2:18 AM, Andrea Pescettipesce...@apache.org wrote: Rob Weir wrote: I could see /platforms/mac if we imagine creating in the future similar landing pages for Windows or Linux. Note that today, a query of OpenOffice for Linux has this ancient page as a #1 hit: http://www.openoffice.org/dev_docs/setup-linux.html And the #1 hit for OpenOffice for Windows is not even at our website. It goes to CNet's download.com page. Very interesting. Indeed this could also be the way to catch users who look for OpenOffice Portable, for example, and should know that we do have a (third-party, from winPenPack) version available; they are now offered an ancient version since OpenOffice Portable has not been updated yet. The updated version is not on the first page of search results. Exactly. In the last month we've seen the following related queries: openoffice portable 2,500 open office portable1,000 openoffice portable italiano150 apache openoffice portable 16 portable90 openoffice portable download16 portable openoffice 12 openofficeportable10 office portable10 openoffice portable日本語版10 openoffice portable 3.410 openoffice 3.4 portable10 openoffice portable deutsch10 openoffice.org portable 日本語版10 portable open office10 openoffice.org portable10 openoffice portable 日本語10 For many of these queries the #1 page is the German page: http://www.openoffice.org/de/downloads/oooportable.html. That is not the optimal page for most of these queries. -Rob Regards, Andrea.
Re: [WEBSITE] broken link on mac porting page
On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 2:28 PM, Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 01/14/2013 02:35 PM, schrieb Rob Weir: On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 2:18 AM, Andrea Pescettipesce...@apache.org wrote: Rob Weir wrote: I could see /platforms/mac if we imagine creating in the future similar landing pages for Windows or Linux. Note that today, a query of OpenOffice for Linux has this ancient page as a #1 hit: http://www.openoffice.org/dev_docs/setup-linux.html And the #1 hit for OpenOffice for Windows is not even at our website. It goes to CNet's download.com page. Very interesting. Indeed this could also be the way to catch users who look for OpenOffice Portable, for example, and should know that we do have a (third-party, from winPenPack) version available; they are now offered an ancient version since OpenOffice Portable has not been updated yet. The updated version is not on the first page of search results. Exactly. In the last month we've seen the following related queries: openoffice portable2,500 open office portable1,000 openoffice portable italiano150 apache openoffice portable 16 portable90 openoffice portable download16 portable openoffice 12 openofficeportable 10 office portable 10 openoffice portable日本語版 10 openoffice portable 3.4 10 openoffice 3.4 portable 10 openoffice portable deutsch 10 openoffice.org portable 日本語版10 portable open office10 openoffice.org portable 10 openoffice portable 日本語 10 For many of these queries the #1 page is the German page: http://www.openoffice.org/de/downloads/oooportable.html. That is not the optimal page for most of these queries. Maybe a good chance to add a /products/portable area like Rob suggestes in a later mail and attempted already with /products/windows. We sort of have that indirectly since the /products pages would have a leftnav link point to /porting and /porting already links to the winPenPack distribution. I suppose it depends on whether we want to make a distinction between the binaries that we sign and release, which we know comes from our release source code, versus downstream versions which might vary. -Rob Marcus
Re: [WEBSITE] broken link on mac porting page
On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 2:37 PM, Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 01/15/2013 02:36 PM, schrieb Rob Weir: Sorry for top posting, but I think we've discussed this enough to have a sense of what our constraints are. A quick proposal: Let's start from this page: http://www.openoffice.org/product/ That is linked to prominently from the homepage and the top navigation bar. I propose adding a new section to the left navigation panel, between Products and More. The new section will be called Platforms and will link to four pages: 1) Windows 2) Mac 3) Linux 4) Ports The first three will be new landing pages. The last one will link to the existing /porting page. Each of the platform pages will have basic system requirements and a link to the download page. They pages can grow to contain (or link to) other platform specific instructions or FAQ's. Looks good and to reuse the Products area instead of create a new one is a smart idea. Furthermore, we should include - besides the sysreq, instructions and FAQs - also a link to the most recent Readme text. IMHO it makes sense to have this here also in a prominent way. I added a link to these install instructions: http://www.openoffice.org/download/common/instructions.html#win Were there any platform-specific readme's? The FAQ's page has a place for platform-specific FAQ's, but currently only has them for MacOS: http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/FAQ Another thing that would be good on such a page is any information on platform-specific integration features. For example, on Windows we have email client access via MAPI. I suspect we support ODBC data access. Anything else special? OLE? DDE? TrueType Fonts? Support for 2nd monitor? DirectDraw? Is there a list of things like this anywhere? Remember, as a landing page for Windows (or Mac or Linux) it does not need to contain every bit of information. But it does need to contain all the relevant buzzwords. We can link to the details. -Rob Marcus On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 8:35 AM, Rob Weirrobw...@apache.org wrote: On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 2:18 AM, Andrea Pescettipesce...@apache.org wrote: Rob Weir wrote: I could see /platforms/mac if we imagine creating in the future similar landing pages for Windows or Linux. Note that today, a query of OpenOffice for Linux has this ancient page as a #1 hit: http://www.openoffice.org/dev_docs/setup-linux.html And the #1 hit for OpenOffice for Windows is not even at our website. It goes to CNet's download.com page. Very interesting. Indeed this could also be the way to catch users who look for OpenOffice Portable, for example, and should know that we do have a (third-party, from winPenPack) version available; they are now offered an ancient version since OpenOffice Portable has not been updated yet. The updated version is not on the first page of search results. Exactly. In the last month we've seen the following related queries: openoffice portable 2,500 open office portable1,000 openoffice portable italiano150 apache openoffice portable 16 portable90 openoffice portable download16 portable openoffice 12 openofficeportable10 office portable10 openoffice portable日本語版10 openoffice portable 3.410 openoffice 3.4 portable10 openoffice portable deutsch10 openoffice.org portable 日本語版10 portable open office10 openoffice.org portable10 openoffice portable 日本語10 For many of these queries the #1 page is the German page: http://www.openoffice.org/de/downloads/oooportable.html. That is not the optimal page for most of these queries. -Rob Regards, Andrea.
Re: Codesnippets: What is it? Who is hosting it? Do we still want it?
Am Dienstag, 15. Januar 2013 um 20:19 schrieb Rob Weir: On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 2:06 PM, Rony G. Flatscher rony.flatsc...@wu.ac.at wrote: Rob, Am 15.01.2013 um 19:54 schrieb Rob Weir robw...@apache.org: http://codesnippets.services.openoffice.org/index.xml I noticed this linked to from another page. It looks a mess. But the source does not appear to be in SVN, so I don't see any way to clean it up. -Rob The corresponding e-mail of last year (March 11th, 2012), including the contact information, attached. OK. Thanks. So it is external and not under our control, though obviously we could drop the DNS entry if we feel this is abandoned. I can see how having code snippets would be useful for developers, But can't we do most of this on the MWiki? yes, we can do more or less the same in the wiki. Under http://wiki.openenoffice.org/wiki/API we had started to collect samples, tutorials and we can extend it to simple snippets. When we use appropriate categories we can easy navigate through the snippets etc. I think we can either drop the external site completely or we can merge the snippets in the wiki. But in general we should extend the API section in the wiki. Currently it looks messed but this is new and probably related to the wiki update. Some cleanup or correction is necessary. Juergen -Rob HTH ---rony Rob, On 11.03.2012 03:26, Rob Weir wrote: On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 9:03 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: Rob, This site is not hosted by oracle. It is another third party. Do you have the details on that, e.g., what 3rd party? We should probably have a conversation and ensure that suitable disclaimers are put in place and that we're not giving one 3rd party favorable access at the exclusion of others. Here's the pointer with the e-mail address of the hoster. Original Message Subject: Re: Just a minor remark: codesnippet pages look a little bit strange Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2012 18:49:39 +0100 From: Rony G. Flatscher (Apache) r...@apache.org Reply-To: ooo-...@incubator.apache.org To: ooo-...@incubator.apache.org Hi Dave, On 02.01.2012 18:39, Dave Fisher wrote: It is not hosted at Oracle, and has not been migrated. The site is powered by Apache AxKit and BestSolutions@ Nslookup yields: codesnippets.services.openoffice.org canonical name = ancamna.bestsolution.at. Name: ancamna.bestsolution.at Address: 94.198.139.11 Another job for the PPMC, Infrastructure, and/or Trademarks - make contact with bestsolutions @ contact in this case would probably be Tom.Schindl-a-t-bestsolution.at, who has been also very active in the Eclipse project AFAIK. Regards, ---rony HTH, ---rony
Re: Codesnippets: What is it? Who is hosting it? Do we still want it?
Having it in the wiki would be nice, because then our users can find more
information in ONE place.
I am all for anything the puts information in one common URL (e.g.
wiki.openoffice.org), having to look for information on multiple sites is
not exactly user friendly (hint to Cwiki).
rgds
jan I.
On 15 January 2013 21:22, Juergen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote:
Am Dienstag, 15. Januar 2013 um 20:19 schrieb Rob Weir:
On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 2:06 PM, Rony G. Flatscher
rony.flatsc...@wu.ac.at wrote:
Rob,
Am 15.01.2013 um 19:54 schrieb Rob Weir robw...@apache.org:
http://codesnippets.services.openoffice.org/index.xml
I noticed this linked to from another page. It looks a mess. But the
source does not appear to be in SVN, so I don't see any way to clean
it up.
-Rob
The corresponding e-mail of last year (March 11th, 2012), including
the contact information, attached.
OK. Thanks. So it is external and not under our control, though
obviously we could drop the DNS entry if we feel this is abandoned.
I can see how having code snippets would be useful for developers,
But can't we do most of this on the MWiki?
yes, we can do more or less the same in the wiki. Under
http://wiki.openenoffice.org/wiki/API we had started to collect samples,
tutorials and we can extend it to simple snippets. When we use appropriate
categories we can easy navigate through the snippets etc.
I think we can either drop the external site completely or we can merge
the snippets in the wiki. But in general we should extend the API section
in the wiki.
Currently it looks messed but this is new and probably related to the wiki
update. Some cleanup or correction is necessary.
Juergen
-Rob
HTH
---rony
Rob,
On 11.03.2012 03:26, Rob Weir wrote:
On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 9:03 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net
wrote:
Rob,
This site is not hosted by oracle.
It is another third party.
Do you have the details on that, e.g., what 3rd party? We should
probably have a conversation and ensure that suitable disclaimers are
put in place and that we're not giving one 3rd party favorable access
at the exclusion of others.
Here's the pointer with the e-mail address of the hoster.
Original Message
Subject: Re: Just a minor remark: codesnippet pages look a little bit
strange
Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2012 18:49:39 +0100
From: Rony G. Flatscher (Apache) r...@apache.org
Reply-To: ooo-...@incubator.apache.org
To: ooo-...@incubator.apache.org
Hi Dave,
On 02.01.2012 18:39, Dave Fisher wrote:
It is not hosted at Oracle, and has not been migrated.
The site is powered by Apache AxKit and BestSolutions@
Nslookup yields:
codesnippets.services.openoffice.org canonical name =
ancamna.bestsolution.at.
Name: ancamna.bestsolution.at
Address: 94.198.139.11
Another job for the PPMC, Infrastructure, and/or Trademarks - make
contact with bestsolutions @
contact in this case would probably be
Tom.Schindl-a-t-bestsolution.at, who has been also very
active in the Eclipse project AFAIK.
Regards,
---rony
HTH,
---rony
Re: [WEBSITE] broken link on mac porting page
On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 1:21 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 7:12 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 8:36 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: Sorry for top posting, but I think we've discussed this enough to have a sense of what our constraints are. A quick proposal: Let's start from this page: http://www.openoffice.org/product/ That is linked to prominently from the homepage and the top navigation bar. I propose adding a new section to the left navigation panel, between Products and More. The new section will be called Platforms and will link to four pages: 1) Windows 2) Mac 3) Linux 4) Ports The first three will be new landing pages. The last one will link to the existing /porting page. Each of the platform pages will have basic system requirements and a link to the download page. They pages can grow to contain (or link to) other platform specific instructions or FAQ's. As an example, here is what the windows page might look like: http://www.openoffice.org/product/windows.html We could try to keep the other platforms in a parallel form. -Rob good idea! I like it! OK. I've uploaded template pages for MacOS and Linux: http://www.openoffice.org/product/mac.html http://www.openoffice.org/product/linux.html I really need help on filling in the details there. I don't think I've touched a Mac since 1989. And even then I was confused looking for the on button ;-) Regards, -Rob -Rob On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 8:35 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 2:18 AM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: Rob Weir wrote: I could see /platforms/mac if we imagine creating in the future similar landing pages for Windows or Linux. Note that today, a query of OpenOffice for Linux has this ancient page as a #1 hit: http://www.openoffice.org/dev_docs/setup-linux.html And the #1 hit for OpenOffice for Windows is not even at our website. It goes to CNet's download.com page. Very interesting. Indeed this could also be the way to catch users who look for OpenOffice Portable, for example, and should know that we do have a (third-party, from winPenPack) version available; they are now offered an ancient version since OpenOffice Portable has not been updated yet. The updated version is not on the first page of search results. Exactly. In the last month we've seen the following related queries: openoffice portable 2,500 open office portable1,000 openoffice portable italiano150 apache openoffice portable 16 portable90 openoffice portable download16 portable openoffice 12 openofficeportable 10 office portable 10 openoffice portable日本語版 10 openoffice portable 3.4 10 openoffice 3.4 portable 10 openoffice portable deutsch 10 openoffice.org portable 日本語版10 portable open office10 openoffice.org portable 10 openoffice portable 日本語 10 For many of these queries the #1 page is the German page: http://www.openoffice.org/de/downloads/oooportable.html. That is not the optimal page for most of these queries. -Rob Regards, Andrea. -- MzK No act of kindness, no matter how small, is ever wasted. -- Aesop
Re: Symphony code in AOO 4.0
On 11/01/2013 Rob Weir wrote: In any case, pointing out the lie on this list already gives 90% of the benefit, since such FUD cannot survive the light of day. A blog post is unnecessary. Regardless of what prompted the discussion here, a specific blog post about what the Symphony contribution specifically has meant for OpenOffice would probably be very informative for our users. It would also be a nice way to show that formerly proprietary code was incorporated in OpenOffice and is now available to other products that can integrate it (and actually, in a few cases, probably already did). Of course, no need to post it today, and especially no need to post it with the aim of refuting misleading claims... I'm just saying that the discussion here suggested that the Symphony contribution in itself is worth to be properly acknowledged and get exposure. Regards, Andrea.
FreeBSD port status
Just a small update; The main set of patches for building on FreeBSD were committed before 3.4 Release. I have been slowly committing the remaining FreeBSD patches trying to avoid interfering with other platforms. All this work has been done by Maho. If someone notices breakage after Revision 1433680 (a one line removal), let me know so that it can be reverted. The only remaining issue to have a direct build from the sources is reported in Bugzilla i118574 and doesn't seem easy to solve cleanly. I have been updating some components to match what we use in FreeBSD, but the port is still fragile for two reasons: - internal icu. - stlport. The first needs to be updated and the second needs to die. Both issues are also key to get a working clang port and would help greatly MacOS X. In any case the status is ... the port works and has been shipping for a while! cheers, Pedro.
Re: [WEBSITE] broken link on mac porting page
Am 01/15/2013 09:43 PM, schrieb Rob Weir: On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 1:21 PM, Kay Schenkkay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 7:12 AM, Rob Weirrobw...@apache.org wrote: On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 8:36 AM, Rob Weirrobw...@apache.org wrote: Sorry for top posting, but I think we've discussed this enough to have a sense of what our constraints are. A quick proposal: Let's start from this page: http://www.openoffice.org/product/ That is linked to prominently from the homepage and the top navigation bar. I propose adding a new section to the left navigation panel, between Products and More. The new section will be called Platforms and will link to four pages: 1) Windows 2) Mac 3) Linux 4) Ports The first three will be new landing pages. The last one will link to the existing /porting page. Each of the platform pages will have basic system requirements and a link to the download page. They pages can grow to contain (or link to) other platform specific instructions or FAQ's. As an example, here is what the windows page might look like: http://www.openoffice.org/product/windows.html We could try to keep the other platforms in a parallel form. -Rob good idea! I like it! OK. I've uploaded template pages for MacOS and Linux: http://www.openoffice.org/product/mac.html http://www.openoffice.org/product/linux.html I really need help on filling in the details there. I don't think I've touched a Mac since 1989. And even then I was confused looking for the on button ;-) At the moment my time is a bit limited for read/write the ML. As it seems we have a consesus I can help much more on the coming weekend. So, it depends on how patient you (we all?) are. ;-) Marcus On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 8:35 AM, Rob Weirrobw...@apache.org wrote: On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 2:18 AM, Andrea Pescettipesce...@apache.org wrote: Rob Weir wrote: I could see /platforms/mac if we imagine creating in the future similar landing pages for Windows or Linux. Note that today, a query of OpenOffice for Linux has this ancient page as a #1 hit: http://www.openoffice.org/dev_docs/setup-linux.html And the #1 hit for OpenOffice for Windows is not even at our website. It goes to CNet's download.com page. Very interesting. Indeed this could also be the way to catch users who look for OpenOffice Portable, for example, and should know that we do have a (third-party, from winPenPack) version available; they are now offered an ancient version since OpenOffice Portable has not been updated yet. The updated version is not on the first page of search results. Exactly. In the last month we've seen the following related queries: openoffice portable 2,500 open office portable1,000 openoffice portable italiano150 apache openoffice portable 16 portable90 openoffice portable download16 portable openoffice 12 openofficeportable10 office portable10 openoffice portable日本語版10 openoffice portable 3.410 openoffice 3.4 portable10 openoffice portable deutsch10 openoffice.org portable 日本語版10 portable open office10 openoffice.org portable10 openoffice portable 日本語10 For many of these queries the #1 page is the German page: http://www.openoffice.org/de/downloads/oooportable.html. That is not the optimal page for most of these queries.
Re: FreeBSD port status
Am 01/15/2013 11:24 PM, schrieb Pedro Giffuni: Just a small update; The main set of patches for building on FreeBSD were committed before 3.4 Release. I have been slowly committing the remaining FreeBSD patches trying to avoid interfering with other platforms. All this work has been done by Maho. If someone notices breakage after Revision 1433680 (a one line removal), let me know so that it can be reverted. The only remaining issue to have a direct build from the sources is reported in Bugzilla i118574 and doesn't seem easy to solve cleanly. I have been updating some components to match what we use in FreeBSD, but the port is still fragile for two reasons: - internal icu. - stlport. The first needs to be updated and the second needs to die. Both issues are also key to get a working clang port and would help greatly MacOS X. In any case the status is ... the port works and has been shipping for a while! cheers, Pedro. Thats great news. Thanks a lot, Pedro and Maho, for your endless effort to support and keeping up-to-date this port on FreeBSD. Marcus
Re: RegExp do not work when Format is selected
2013/1/14 Herbert Duerr h...@apache.org On 12.01.2013 18:42, RGB ES wrote: Some trouble with the new RegExp engine in Writer. Forum discussion: http://forum.openoffice.org/**en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7t=**58510http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7t=58510 On Writer, when you do a SR you can use regular expressions or set a format (Format button on More options) but it seems you cannot do both at the same time https://issues.apache.org/ooo/**show_bug.cgi?id=121482https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=121482 Thanks for catching this! These problems are fixed now. Please verify with the next nightly build (i.e. revision=1432869) from our buildbots http://ci.apache.org/projects/**openoffice/http://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/ Working great on 1433282 Thanks again! Ricardo Herbert
Re: OO / unsubscribed posters
Le 14/01/2013 23:45, Rob Weir a écrit : We do, however, have one option, a more extreme one. That would be to disallow posts from non-subscribers altogether. So keep the dev list for subscribers only and get on with our work. And use another list, like users, where anyone can post. Then the expectations are clear on that list: safer to always cc the poster. We do that 100% of the time. The best solution IMHO. A dev mailing list is clearly for advanced users to talk about code and so on. There are many questions posted here that should be on the users mailing in fact. That would spare a lot of time not spent in reading and answering when standard users could. Hagar
Re: Apache OpenOffice at FOSDEM 2013
On 15/01/2013 Drew Jensen wrote: Well, this Tri-Fold flyer isn't done. I put to current file to the wiki at: http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/File:AOO_Flyer.odt Thanks! But I think there's something to fix on the wiki, I can't download the file. The link in your page goes to http://wiki.openoffice.org/w/images/a/af/AOO_Flyer.odt which returns a Not found error. Regards, Andrea.
Re: [WEBSITE] broken link on mac porting page
On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 11:48 AM, sara...@upscale.in wrote: Can we make a website with automated language selector or optional language selector and over all I m not convinced really website looks great either you can incorporate bootstrap into it what do you say... I'm not very familiar with Bootstrap. Can you explain more? For example, does it require server-side processing? For performance and security reasons we have some severe restrictions on server-side processes. And for a language selector, we talked at one time about adding the Google Translate drop down on each page, to make it easier for visitors to get a page translated, but there were concerns on the poor quality of the automated translation. -Rob Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel -Original Message- From: Rob Weir robw...@apache.org Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 08:36:07 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Reply-To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: [WEBSITE] broken link on mac porting page Sorry for top posting, but I think we've discussed this enough to have a sense of what our constraints are. A quick proposal: Let's start from this page: http://www.openoffice.org/product/ That is linked to prominently from the homepage and the top navigation bar. I propose adding a new section to the left navigation panel, between Products and More. The new section will be called Platforms and will link to four pages: 1) Windows 2) Mac 3) Linux 4) Ports The first three will be new landing pages. The last one will link to the existing /porting page. Each of the platform pages will have basic system requirements and a link to the download page. They pages can grow to contain (or link to) other platform specific instructions or FAQ's. -Rob On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 8:35 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 2:18 AM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: Rob Weir wrote: I could see /platforms/mac if we imagine creating in the future similar landing pages for Windows or Linux. Note that today, a query of OpenOffice for Linux has this ancient page as a #1 hit: http://www.openoffice.org/dev_docs/setup-linux.html And the #1 hit for OpenOffice for Windows is not even at our website. It goes to CNet's download.com page. Very interesting. Indeed this could also be the way to catch users who look for OpenOffice Portable, for example, and should know that we do have a (third-party, from winPenPack) version available; they are now offered an ancient version since OpenOffice Portable has not been updated yet. The updated version is not on the first page of search results. Exactly. In the last month we've seen the following related queries: openoffice portable 2,500 open office portable1,000 openoffice portable italiano150 apache openoffice portable 16 portable90 openoffice portable download16 portable openoffice 12 openofficeportable 10 office portable 10 openoffice portable日本語版 10 openoffice portable 3.4 10 openoffice 3.4 portable 10 openoffice portable deutsch 10 openoffice.org portable 日本語版10 portable open office10 openoffice.org portable 10 openoffice portable 日本語 10 For many of these queries the #1 page is the German page: http://www.openoffice.org/de/downloads/oooportable.html. That is not the optimal page for most of these queries. -Rob Regards, Andrea.
Re: OO / unsubscribed posters
Message du 14/01/13 23:35 De : Andrea Pescetti It has been a priority of mine, but the results are not encouraging. A couple months ago, in November, I contacted Infra to find out whether this was feasible and it isn't. These are the three options I gave them: a) Adding an X-Apache-moderated: yes header or similar when a message is held for moderation (Delivered-To will occur multiple times and won't work) b) adding a [moderated] tag at the end of the subject c) setting Reply-To to list+sender instead of list only in this case I just thought about another way: today the delivered-to header for moderation is the second one in the code of the email. I guess that the TB filter sees only the first field. Could it be possible to swap the 2 delivered-to headers so that the one for moderation is the first one? Would it have an impact or not on the list management? Hagar Une messagerie gratuite, garantie à vie et des services en plus, ça vous tente ? Je crée ma boîte mail www.laposte.net
Re: [UX] Five new presentation template design
Kay, thanks for your support. I will upload more.:) 2013/1/14 Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com On 01/08/2013 11:25 PM, Xin Li wrote: Hi all, We have some new presentation template design and have uploaded five new templates. Welcome to have a try and give me some feedback. Thanks. http://templates.services.**openoffice.org/en/node/9165http://templates.services.openoffice.org/en/node/9165 http://templates.services.**openoffice.org/en/node/9169http://templates.services.openoffice.org/en/node/9169 http://templates.services.**openoffice.org/en/node/9171http://templates.services.openoffice.org/en/node/9171 http://templates.services.**openoffice.org/en/node/9173http://templates.services.openoffice.org/en/node/9173 http://templates.services.**openoffice.org/en/node/9175http://templates.services.openoffice.org/en/node/9175 Very nice. Thanks. -- --**--** MzK No act of kindness, no matter how small, is ever wasted. -- Aesop -- Best regards, Xin Li 李欣 UX designer
