Re: Sidebar color scheme survey

2013-02-25 Thread Andre Fischer

Am 21.02.2013 16:26, schrieb Regina Henschel:

Hi,

Xin Li schrieb:
[..]
So I create a light-weight gray proposal based on the option we 
discussed

before.I use a light grey on the side bar and use a gradient for the
section title.

And I also align the same light grey to slide thumbnail panel 
background in

Presentation. Because the content area on the center should have the
highest priority, the rest elements should have lower priorities, and 
items

with the same priority should be treated with the same way.

I have added the latest design(option10) to AOO UX wiki page. Please see
the latest design by the link:
http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/AOO_UX_Design_Exploration_-_Task_Pane_Content_Panel_-_User_Interface_Design_Proposals#Task_Pane_Content_Panel_-_UX_Design_propoals 



Welcome to share your thoughts and ideas. Thanks.



Can you make a little change and draw the color gradient of the 
subtitles the other way round: light color at the top edge and darker 
color at the bottom edge? And put the pictures side by side to allow 
to compare them?


I don´t think that would work.  The current orientation of the gradient 
is chosen so that the title bar blends into the panel so that the user 
can recognize both to belong together.  Inverting the gradient would 
work only when we make the background of the panel dark.




Background for the request: When ever I see such gradient in an UI, it 
assumes, that the light comes from left-top, so that the top and the 
left parts of the elements are lighter then the right and bottom parts.


AOO is not a physics simulation.

-Andre



Re: CMS diff: Apache OpenOffice - Deutsche Startseite

2013-02-25 Thread Oliver-Rainer Wittmann

Hi,

I have committed and published this typo.

I also published Rob's clean up of the product page which he had 
committed a couple of hours ago.


Best regards, Oliver.

On 24.02.2013 16:29, Piotr wrote:

Clone URL (Committers only):
https://cms.apache.org/redirect?new=anonymous;action=diff;uri=http://ooo-site.apache.org/de%2Findex.html

Piotr

Index: trunk/content/de/index.html
===
--- trunk/content/de/index.html (revision 1449428)
+++ trunk/content/de/index.html (working copy)
@@ -95,7 +95,7 @@
a 
href=http://projects.testopenoffice.org/native-lang.html;Sprachen/a 
verfuuml;gbar ist, als auch ein
a 
href=http://www.opensource.org/docs/definition.php;Open-Source/a-Projekt, in 
dem viele zumeist
ehrenamtliche Mitglieder das Produkt immer weiter 
verbessern und unterstuuml;tzen. Fuuml;r diese
-   Gemeinschaft suchen wirstauml;ndig neue Mitglieder: a 
href=dev/index.htmlBeteiligen/a Sie sich!/p
+   Gemeinschaft suchen wir stauml;ndig neue Mitglieder: a 
href=dev/index.htmlBeteiligen/a Sie sich!/p
/div

div id=ooo-modules



Re: java 7 patch

2013-02-25 Thread Herbert Dürr

On 2013/02/25 1:09 AM, Pedro Giffuni wrote:

While here let me remind you that to solve the jdk7 issue you have to
look at i121098. The fix is rather trivial but someone else has to do
it.


Thanks for the pointer. I adjusted the produced classfile format to our
baseline as defined in the checks during configure which is Java 5. Even 
this version was released in 2004 so it is old enough to be upgraded 
should the need arise.


Herbert



Re: Sidebar color scheme survey

2013-02-25 Thread Andre Fischer
Am 25.02.2013 08:03, schrieb Xin Li:
 Hi Ariel,

 Thanks for your concern about the issue of color customization. I think we
 need to **discuss this issue as two parts:

 1. Do we need to create the new look and feel for AOO?
 We always say that the current look and feel for AOO is out of style.  We
 know that AOO just use the system color by default. But if we want AOO
 looks more modern and fashion, we need to do some change, we need to have
 new design for default look and feel. You can see that most of  the PC
 software have their own default look and feel, like: MSO, Photoshop, Adobe
 Illustrator and so on. I think if the default visual style of software is
 good, the requirements of change color will be smaller.

 2.User also can change to other colors if we have default new look and feel.
 We create new look and feel does not mean that we forbid user change color.
 User can also change color if they don't like the default look and feel.
 And I think the reasonable way is user can change the whole interface with
 sidebar to other colors.

I will try this week to find some time to play with the colors. On
Windows we are not so far away from the system colors, anyway. Maybe it
is good enough to use the cleaner look (not so many lines and boxes and
title bars as the old (Impress) taskpanel) together with the system
colors. Besides, the system colors still offer some choice. And we can
modify them a little bit like in the Impress slide sorter. Its selection
color is based on the system selection color but is made a little
brighter (I think). There are a lot of knobs to turn. Lets see what I
can do.

-Andre


 Thanks.

 2013/2/21 Ariel Constenla-Haile arie...@apache.org

 Hi Xin Li,

 On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 04:20:25PM +0800, Xin Li wrote:
 Hi all,

 Thanks for your votes and your feedback.

 I have summarized all votes from Facebook and mail list. The result is :
 A1:8A2:7A3:6
 B1:8B2:8B3:10
 C1:3C2:2C3:5

 For control style, it seems that many user prefer proposal B (Simple line
 separator). As Kevin's suggestion,noise reduction and consistency would
 be
 best. So separators between clusters may be better. So we use separators
 between clusters to separate the buttons of cluster.

 For content panel color, it seems that there no obvious winner. I would
 like to share my thoughts on the visual style because it is already
 relate
 to color topic when we do the side bar migration. As we discussed before,
 the current grey color used in AOO is dark and looks out of style. We
 should do some light-weight change in AOO.
 If you see something gray in the user interface, it is because your
 system uses that color for painting that particular object. If a user
 doesn't like gray, s/he has to simply switch the desktop theme.

 Moving away from the system's style settings only renders the sidebar as
 something that does not fit with the rest of the application/desktop:
 http://people.apache.org/~arielch/images/sidebar/

 These screen shots are from different GTK themes, the sidebar is
 obviously not following the rest of the application (the Navigator is
 side-by-side to show this fact).


 Regards
 --
 Ariel Constenla-Haile
 La Plata, Argentina






Re: Sidebar color scheme survey

2013-02-25 Thread Kevin Grignon
KG01 - see comments inline. 

On Feb 25, 2013, at 4:55 PM, Andre Fischer awf@gmail.com wrote:

 Am 21.02.2013 16:26, schrieb Regina Henschel:
 Hi,
 
 Xin Li schrieb:
 [..]
 So I create a light-weight gray proposal based on the option we discussed
 before.I use a light grey on the side bar and use a gradient for the
 section title.
 
 And I also align the same light grey to slide thumbnail panel background in
 Presentation. Because the content area on the center should have the
 highest priority, the rest elements should have lower priorities, and items
 with the same priority should be treated with the same way.
 
 I have added the latest design(option10) to AOO UX wiki page. Please see
 the latest design by the link:
 http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/AOO_UX_Design_Exploration_-_Task_Pane_Content_Panel_-_User_Interface_Design_Proposals#Task_Pane_Content_Panel_-_UX_Design_propoals
  
 
 Welcome to share your thoughts and ideas. Thanks.
 
 
 Can you make a little change and draw the color gradient of the subtitles 
 the other way round: light color at the top edge and darker color at the 
 bottom edge? And put the pictures side by side to allow to compare them?
 
 I don´t think that would work.  The current orientation of the gradient is 
 chosen so that the title bar blends into the panel so that the user can 
 recognize both to belong together.  Inverting the gradient would work only 
 when we make the background of the panel dark.
 
KG01 - exactly, the goal is to differentiate the section titles from each other 
while reinforcing the association between section header and it's content. Who 
said design was easy :) other solutions could be explored if the gradient is 
not ideal. 

 
 Background for the request: When ever I see such gradient in an UI, it 
 assumes, that the light comes from left-top, so that the top and the left 
 parts of the elements are lighter then the right and bottom parts.
 
 AOO is not a physics simulation.
 
 -Andre
 


Re: [serf-dev] Serf 1.2.0 has been released

2013-02-25 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 2/22/13 7:59 PM, Greg Stein wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I'm pleased to announce the serf 1.2.0 release!
 
 This release contains many robustness fixes, especially around flaky
 and problematic connections. The CHANGES file is located at:
   http://serf.googlecode.com/svn/tags/1.2.0/CHANGES
 
 
 Download details are at:
   http://code.google.com/p/serf/downloads/list
 
 Direct links:
 
   http://serf.googlecode.com/files/serf-1.2.0.tar.bz2
   SHA1: 30b29bd9214d50887abcc20cf82096aaaf5d1d61
 
   http://serf.googlecode.com/files/serf-1.2.0.zip
   SHA1: 07112bb7f715e1ec472f190c7b3051189969bba7
 
 
 Please report any problems to serf-...@googlegroups.com
 

ok I already replied on the serf-dev mailing list. Thnaks agian for
notifying us form the update. We will update our dependencies to the new
serf version. I have created issue
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=121823

Thanks

Juergen



Re: 4.0 and loss of backward compatibility for extensions with toolbar

2013-02-25 Thread Roberto Galoppini
On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 2:28 PM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 2/21/13 10:05 AM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:
 On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 09:22:34AM +0100, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
 The first step should be a simple check if an Addons.xcu is
 contained at all. Something like unzip -l extension | grep
 Addons.xcu should be enough. The second step if an
 Addons.xcu is contained is to check for the node
 oor:name=OfficeToolBar entry. Only if this entry exists
 the Addons.xcu the extension has to be updated.

 This might be error prone, because the file can have any name, all
 it matters is the media type in the META-INF manifest and the OO
 registry package and name in the file itself.

 While it's highly rare to find a lala.lala, I've found an
 addons.xcu (in lowercase). No wonder there is no OfficeToolBar in
 this particular extension, but the extension does not work in AOO
 4.0 due to API changes (what shows that the whole discussion
 centered on the schema change is full of ungrounded assumptions,
 and lack of knowledge on the subject).

 ignore case is probably a good idea, a complete different name is
 probably rather seldom. But from a technical point of view you are
 correct.

 We don't need exact data but it would be nice to get an impression how
 often it is used.

 Juergen



 242 extensions contain  addons.xcu stensioni (total: 1065
 releases), 430 estensions don't (total: 1660 releases). Do you
 want us to check how many contain OfficeToolBar?

 If you could run a short script to check it, it would be very
 useful for us to make a final decision.

Officetoolbar used within 137 extensions (553 releases).


 Maybe you can also provide some numbers about their downloads.
 Only th extensions that contain an Addons.xcu with OfficeToolBar

That's not really trivial, but it would be easier to figure out how
many among top 50 contain Addons.xcu with OfficeToolBar.

Would it make the trick? If not I'll work on how to compute those numbers.

Let me know,

Roberto


 It would also be interesting to know the last time the extension
 was updated; besides that expecting unmaintained extensions to work
 on a new major release might not be plausible, the extension is
 likely not be adapted to any change if it is unmaintained, no
 matter how popular it is (example: the most popular, Oracle PDF
 Import Extension, Downloads: Week: 12,706, unmaintained since Dec.
 2010, seems to be broken - according to the first three comments).


 Regards



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Re: 4.0 and loss of backward compatibility for extensions with toolbar

2013-02-25 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 2/25/13 4:36 PM, Roberto Galoppini wrote:
 On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 2:28 PM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 2/21/13 10:05 AM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:
 On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 09:22:34AM +0100, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
 The first step should be a simple check if an Addons.xcu is
 contained at all. Something like unzip -l extension | grep
 Addons.xcu should be enough. The second step if an
 Addons.xcu is contained is to check for the node
 oor:name=OfficeToolBar entry. Only if this entry exists
 the Addons.xcu the extension has to be updated.

 This might be error prone, because the file can have any name, all
 it matters is the media type in the META-INF manifest and the OO
 registry package and name in the file itself.

 While it's highly rare to find a lala.lala, I've found an
 addons.xcu (in lowercase). No wonder there is no OfficeToolBar in
 this particular extension, but the extension does not work in AOO
 4.0 due to API changes (what shows that the whole discussion
 centered on the schema change is full of ungrounded assumptions,
 and lack of knowledge on the subject).

 ignore case is probably a good idea, a complete different name is
 probably rather seldom. But from a technical point of view you are
 correct.

 We don't need exact data but it would be nice to get an impression how
 often it is used.

it would definitely help to get an overview about which extension we are
talking. Based on this info we could contact the owners and can inform
them about the change.

Juergen



 Juergen



 242 extensions contain  addons.xcu stensioni (total: 1065
 releases), 430 estensions don't (total: 1660 releases). Do you
 want us to check how many contain OfficeToolBar?

 If you could run a short script to check it, it would be very
 useful for us to make a final decision.
 
 Officetoolbar used within 137 extensions (553 releases).
 

 Maybe you can also provide some numbers about their downloads.
 Only th extensions that contain an Addons.xcu with OfficeToolBar
 
 That's not really trivial, but it would be easier to figure out how
 many among top 50 contain Addons.xcu with OfficeToolBar.
 
 Would it make the trick? If not I'll work on how to compute those numbers.
 
 Let me know,
 
 Roberto
 
 
 It would also be interesting to know the last time the extension
 was updated; besides that expecting unmaintained extensions to work
 on a new major release might not be plausible, the extension is
 likely not be adapted to any change if it is unmaintained, no
 matter how popular it is (example: the most popular, Oracle PDF
 Import Extension, Downloads: Week: 12,706, unmaintained since Dec.
 2010, seems to be broken - according to the first three comments).


 Regards


 



Proposal: pr...@openoffice.apache.org alias

2013-02-25 Thread Rob Weir
Currently we point press inquires to priv...@openoffice.apache.org.  I
think it would be more professional to use an address like
pr...@openoffice.apache.org or even me...@openoffice.apache.org.  But
I don't think we want to maintain another mailing list.

So, if there are no concerns, I'd like to request an mailing address
alias, so emails directed to pr...@openoffice.apache.org get sent to
priv...@openoffice.apache.org.

-Rob


Re: Proposal: pr...@openoffice.apache.org alias

2013-02-25 Thread Sylvain DENIS
its a good idea

Sylvain denis
Le 25 févr. 2013 19:15, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org a écrit :

 Currently we point press inquires to priv...@openoffice.apache.org.  I
 think it would be more professional to use an address like
 pr...@openoffice.apache.org or even me...@openoffice.apache.org.  But
 I don't think we want to maintain another mailing list.

 So, if there are no concerns, I'd like to request an mailing address
 alias, so emails directed to pr...@openoffice.apache.org get sent to
 priv...@openoffice.apache.org.

 -Rob



Re: Proposal: pr...@openoffice.apache.org alias

2013-02-25 Thread Donald Harbison
On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 10:15 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:

 Currently we point press inquires to priv...@openoffice.apache.org.  I
 think it would be more professional to use an address like
 pr...@openoffice.apache.org or even me...@openoffice.apache.org.  But
 I don't think we want to maintain another mailing list.

 So, if there are no concerns, I'd like to request an mailing address
 alias, so emails directed to pr...@openoffice.apache.org get sent to
 priv...@openoffice.apache.org.


+1



 -Rob



Draft blog post: Call for Documentation Volunteers

2013-02-25 Thread Rob Weir
https://blogs.apache.org/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=call_for_documentation_volunteers


Re: Draft blog post: Call for Documentation Volunteers

2013-02-25 Thread Donald Whytock
On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 2:40 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:
 https://blogs.apache.org/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=call_for_documentation_volunteers

Looks good.  Did you want to say something about testing the new
release by writing documentation with it?

Don


Re: Draft blog post: Call for Documentation Volunteers

2013-02-25 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 2:44 PM, Donald Whytock dwhyt...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 2:40 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:
 https://blogs.apache.org/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=call_for_documentation_volunteers

 Looks good.  Did you want to say something about testing the new
 release by writing documentation with it?


The actual writing for the new User Guides will be using the wiki. But
perhaps the detailed walk-through of the product needed to document
every dialog, etc., helps with the test coverage?

-Rob

 Don


Re: Document Freedom Day 2013 -- March 27

2013-02-25 Thread Samer Mansour
On 1) Can I suggest we make the graphic change maybe 3-5 days before DFD.
Make an earlier blog post letting people know its coming up. We should go
viral before the day.

I could create a small page about AOO and DFD and what it means to us.
Much like the download page, we can assign the social platform meta-data
image and text to the one we're promoting AOO with.  We could then link it
to the early and day-of blog posts.

- - - - -
PAGE META DATA
[Image=AOO-DFD-Doodle.png]
[Title=Apache OpenOffice celebrates DFD, learn more here.]
[Text=AOO is committed to support ODF standards so that everyone can
access their information independent of the tools and suites they use.
Learn more here.]

IN TYPICAL OO.org PAGE TEMPLATE
[Short brief about what it means to us. Benefits to society, talk about
owning your information and having the freedom to move to other office
suites and OS/Technology platforms. Talk about how we support multiple
platforms for that freedom. Windows to Linux to OS X]

Let your friends know its document freedom day on March 27th:
[Share Facebook] [Share Twitter] [Share Google+]

Are you ready to be free? [Download Apache OpenOffice Today! possibly
href'd image]
- - - - -

Samer

On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 1:48 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:

 Document Freedom Day (DFD) promotes the use of open standards and
 interoperability in documents.   OpenOffice has been a core part of
 DFD since it first started in 2008.

 Our community's support of the OpenDocument Format (ODF) file format
 is broad: in the product of course, but also via our personal use, and
 via the efforts of our volunteers in OASIS maintaining the standard,
 and at Plugfests improving interoperability.

 I'd like to see us celebrate Document Freedom Day.  I think we can do
 something similar do what we did for International Mother Language
 Day:   Using social media and our website.  We can reach nearly a
 million people when we do this, so it is very effective.

 To make this happen we need a few things to happen before, say March 10th:

 1) An adapted logo for the website, something thematic.

 a) The hi-res version of the current logo is here:
 http://www.openoffice.org/images/AOO_logos/AOO-logo-hires.jpg

 b) For ideas, the official DFD art work is here:
 http://documentfreedom.org/artwork.en.html

 c) The final website logo should be 100px high, with width of 200-400px.

 d) If we can avoid putting the date in the logo we can reuse it in
 future years as well.

 2) A blog post and/or press release.  The week prior to DFD is
 Sunshine Week in the US, and is focused on open government
 (http://www.sunshineweek.org/).  So I might try to write up something
 that connects the two, i.e., how the use of open standards helps
 promote open government.

 3) Use our social media accounts to promote DFD on the day.


 Anyone interested in helping?


 Regards,

 -Rob



Re: Document Freedom Day 2013 -- March 27

2013-02-25 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 3:17 PM, Samer Mansour samer...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 1) Can I suggest we make the graphic change maybe 3-5 days before DFD.
 Make an earlier blog post letting people know its coming up. We should go
 viral before the day.


I agree.  Even though the actual even is on a specific day we'll get
more notice if we start a few days ahead of time.

 I could create a small page about AOO and DFD and what it means to us.
 Much like the download page, we can assign the social platform meta-data
 image and text to the one we're promoting AOO with.  We could then link it
 to the early and day-of blog posts.


So the idea would be that visitors could like or share that page to
their social network?  I like that idea.  Anything that we can do to
turn it into a two-way engagement/sharing will be more effective than
simply broadcasting information in a single direction.

For example, with IMLD, the actual blog post did not get much of a
response, but a simple Facebook post asking the question How do you
say 'free software' in your Mother Language? got 45 comments, 44
likes, and 2 shares.


 - - - - -
 PAGE META DATA
 [Image=AOO-DFD-Doodle.png]
 [Title=Apache OpenOffice celebrates DFD, learn more here.]
 [Text=AOO is committed to support ODF standards so that everyone can
 access their information independent of the tools and suites they use.
 Learn more here.]

 IN TYPICAL OO.org PAGE TEMPLATE
 [Short brief about what it means to us. Benefits to society, talk about
 owning your information and having the freedom to move to other office
 suites and OS/Technology platforms. Talk about how we support multiple
 platforms for that freedom. Windows to Linux to OS X]

 Let your friends know its document freedom day on March 27th:
 [Share Facebook] [Share Twitter] [Share Google+]

 Are you ready to be free? [Download Apache OpenOffice Today! possibly
 href'd image]
 - - - - -


Liberate your documents is a common DFD expression we could work with..

-Rob


 Samer

 On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 1:48 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:

 Document Freedom Day (DFD) promotes the use of open standards and
 interoperability in documents.   OpenOffice has been a core part of
 DFD since it first started in 2008.

 Our community's support of the OpenDocument Format (ODF) file format
 is broad: in the product of course, but also via our personal use, and
 via the efforts of our volunteers in OASIS maintaining the standard,
 and at Plugfests improving interoperability.

 I'd like to see us celebrate Document Freedom Day.  I think we can do
 something similar do what we did for International Mother Language
 Day:   Using social media and our website.  We can reach nearly a
 million people when we do this, so it is very effective.

 To make this happen we need a few things to happen before, say March 10th:

 1) An adapted logo for the website, something thematic.

 a) The hi-res version of the current logo is here:
 http://www.openoffice.org/images/AOO_logos/AOO-logo-hires.jpg

 b) For ideas, the official DFD art work is here:
 http://documentfreedom.org/artwork.en.html

 c) The final website logo should be 100px high, with width of 200-400px.

 d) If we can avoid putting the date in the logo we can reuse it in
 future years as well.

 2) A blog post and/or press release.  The week prior to DFD is
 Sunshine Week in the US, and is focused on open government
 (http://www.sunshineweek.org/).  So I might try to write up something
 that connects the two, i.e., how the use of open standards helps
 promote open government.

 3) Use our social media accounts to promote DFD on the day.


 Anyone interested in helping?


 Regards,

 -Rob



Did we get any good photographs at Fosdem?

2013-02-25 Thread Rob Weir
Did we get any good photographs at Fosdem?  Or ApacheConEU?

I think our website would benefit greatly from some visual elements.
For example, our main get involved page:

http://openoffice.apache.org/get-involved.html

This is crying out for a photo of a volunteer or group of volunteers.

Do we have anything suitable?

-Rob


Re: My wish!

2013-02-25 Thread atagak xplornet.ca
Hello Rob!

Not sure if my last email made it? Anyways, my best attempt in answering
some questions

I would like to see the ability to type in syllabics in the word processor,
although we wouldn't perform any financial functions, it would be good to
be able to either type basic syllabics in Calc, or copy and paste the text
into Calc and any text based option within Draw, Impress, not really
necessary for Base, but storing any text in the fields can be in syllabics.
The function of typing in syllabics would mainly be in word processing.

If the focus of typing in syllabics were to be in in Writer, could that be
available in all platforms?

This truly will be a digital revolution for Inuktitut typing if this can be
done! A remarkable achievement it will be, to instantly type in Inuktitut!

And right now, my main focus is to be able to take that VB code and somehow
(I'm almost completely blind in C) and duplicate it for the standards of
Open Office.

I will subscribe to the mailing lists in your suggestions,

Once again, I thank you for all the advice and appreciate all the work that
has been done!

Take care

Andrew


On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 2:10 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:

 On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 1:28 PM, atagak xplornet.ca ata...@xplornet.ca
 wrote:
  Good afternoon everyone!
 
  My names is Andrew Tagak Jr., I'm an Inuk (Eskimo) from Nunavut, Canada,
  living in a small city by the name of Iqaluit (Many Fish).
 

 Hello Andrew,

 I am Rob Weir, one of the volunteers on the Apache OpenOffice project.
   I'm in the US, in Massachusetts.  I always wanted to visit Nunavut
 and see the northern lights.

 Welcome to the Dev mailing list.  This is a public mailing list, so as
 a subscriber everything you send gets sent to other subscribers, and
 you also receive any note that someone else sends, like this note.


  I have over the years developed small programs in Visual Basic. One of
 the
  programs I have developed is a transliterator that instantly converts
 Roman
  Orthography into Inuktitut Syllabics.
 
  I developed the program to ensure that the proper use of the orthography
  converts seamlessly in syllabics without having to learn a mapped
 keyboard
  to type, or to avoid downloading drivers to be installed on computers.
 

 Cool.

  My wish is to have such a program function in Open Office! That would
  be a thrill to be able to say a tiny little program like the
 transliterator
  can have a huge impact on all Inuktitut speaking and typing users across
  the globe! It would maximize technology to it's fullest capacity :)
 

 Yes, I could see how this would be very useful.

  I'm also developing the same program for other Aboriginal languages
 (Cree,
  Ojibwe, Cherokee and Dene)
 

 Excellent.


  Couple questions,
 
  1 - would it be difficult to integrate VB into C? Or, convert vb language
  into the Open Office language?
 

 A few things to think about:

 a) Do you want the tool to work in all editors (Writer, Calc and
 Impress?) or just in the word processor?

 b) What about platforms?  OpenOffice is available on Windows, Mac and
 Linux.

 If you want a solution that works on all the OpenOffice applications,
 and cross-platform, then that will probably lead you away from Visual
 Basic and toward either OpenOffice Basic or C/C++.


  and 2 - If it is possible, any chance I can get any support or learning
  tutors to help with the wish I have?
 

 We have many volunteers who are far more knowledgeable about the
 extension mechanisms in OpenOffice.  Hopefully that can give you some
 good ideas.

 Note:  we have two other mailing lists, with less traffic, that are
 also relevant to your ideas.

 We have a localization mailing list, which you can subscribe by
 sending a note to:  l10n-subscr...@openoffice.apache.org

 And we also have a list dedicated to writing OpenOffice extensions:
 api-subscr...@openoffice.apache.org

  If you need some samples they are found on my site;
 
  http://www.tagak.net
 
  I have found an Add-on developed by Alex Beneson that transliterates
 other
  languages, and I have contributed Inuktitut to that particular add-on he
  developed;
 

 Are there others who might be interested in enabling OpenOffice to
 work better with Aboriginal languages?   We have an active
 localization effort for OpenOffice.  So if you know anyone who would
 be interested in seeing the OpenOffice user interface translated into
 Inuktitut syllabics, and bundled with an Inuktitut spell checker, we
 can help you get started.

 Regards,

 -Rob


  http://www.benya.com/transliterator/
 
  I would like that everyone for any support!
 
  Take care
 
  Andrew Tagak Jr.



Re: Did we get any good photographs at Fosdem?

2013-02-25 Thread atagak xplornet.ca
Hey Rob,

Being over 1000km away from the nearest major city, I can't say I have have
photos of events or conferences, I hope to one day attend some.

But I do have a lot of nature type photos you can use?
http://www.facebook.com/angtags feel free to use any, there are lot's of
our tiny little city :)

Take care

Andrew




On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 3:57 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:

 Did we get any good photographs at Fosdem?  Or ApacheConEU?

 I think our website would benefit greatly from some visual elements.
 For example, our main get involved page:

 http://openoffice.apache.org/get-involved.html

 This is crying out for a photo of a volunteer or group of volunteers.

 Do we have anything suitable?

 -Rob



Re: Proposal: pr...@openoffice.apache.org alias

2013-02-25 Thread RGB ES
2013/2/25 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org

 Currently we point press inquires to priv...@openoffice.apache.org.  I
 think it would be more professional to use an address like
 pr...@openoffice.apache.org or even me...@openoffice.apache.org.  But
 I don't think we want to maintain another mailing list.

 So, if there are no concerns, I'd like to request an mailing address
 alias, so emails directed to pr...@openoffice.apache.org get sent to
 priv...@openoffice.apache.org.

 -Rob


+1. It's a good idea

Ricardo


Re: Draft blog post: Call for Documentation Volunteers

2013-02-25 Thread RGB ES
2013/2/25 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org


 https://blogs.apache.org/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=call_for_documentation_volunteers


Thanks for this! It looks good: short and to the point.

Regards
Ricardo


Re: Did we get any good photographs at Fosdem?

2013-02-25 Thread Kay Schenk
On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 12:57 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:

 Did we get any good photographs at Fosdem?  Or ApacheConEU?

 I think our website would benefit greatly from some visual elements.
 For example, our main get involved page:

 http://openoffice.apache.org/get-involved.html

 This is crying out for a photo of a volunteer or group of volunteers.

 Do we have anything suitable?

 -Rob


I believe the photos we have are linked from the Events page...

 http://openoffice.apache.org/events.html

However, the photos are not identified very well...I suppose we could
nominate some? I think it would be a good idea to show actual *people*. :)



-- 

MzK

Achieving happiness requires the right combination of Zen and Zin.


RE: Draft blog post: Call for Documentation Volunteers

2013-02-25 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
+1

I admire these introductions.  They strike me as very inviting.  

 - Dennis

-Original Message-
From: RGB ES [mailto:rgb.m...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 13:56
To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
Subject: Re: Draft blog post: Call for Documentation Volunteers

2013/2/25 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org


 https://blogs.apache.org/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=call_for_documentation_volunteers


Thanks for this! It looks good: short and to the point.

Regards
Ricardo



Re: Draft blog post: Call for Documentation Volunteers

2013-02-25 Thread Dave Fisher

On Feb 25, 2013, at 11:46 AM, Rob Weir wrote:

 On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 2:44 PM, Donald Whytock dwhyt...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 2:40 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:
 https://blogs.apache.org/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=call_for_documentation_volunteers
 
 Looks good.  Did you want to say something about testing the new
 release by writing documentation with it?
 
 
 The actual writing for the new User Guides will be using the wiki. But
 perhaps the detailed walk-through of the product needed to document
 every dialog, etc., helps with the test coverage?

Nice post. One question for clarification. Which Wiki? I think we all probably 
agree that it is the MWiki, and I think we can describe why to choose one vs 
the other. MWiki is for documentation that is permanent while CWiki is for 
planning that is transitory - we'll plan an action but it is not really 
documentation.

Regards,
Dave


 
 -Rob
 
 Don



Re: Did we get any good photographs at Fosdem?

2013-02-25 Thread Andrea Pescetti

On 25/02/2013 Rob Weir wrote:

Did we get any good photographs at Fosdem?  Or ApacheConEU?


Mine (ApacheCon EU and FOSDEM) are at
http://www.flickr.com/photos/89947020@N07/sets/72157631985453666/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/89947020@N07/sets/72157632699639150/

I wouldn't say they qualify as good, but they might be usable in some 
contexts (needless to say, feel free to reuse them in any suitable way).


Regards,
  Andrea.


Re: My wish!

2013-02-25 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 2/25/13 10:03 PM, atagak xplornet.ca wrote:
 Hello Rob!
 
 Not sure if my last email made it? Anyways, my best attempt in answering
 some questions
 
 I would like to see the ability to type in syllabics in the word processor,
 although we wouldn't perform any financial functions, it would be good to
 be able to either type basic syllabics in Calc, or copy and paste the text
 into Calc and any text based option within Draw, Impress, not really
 necessary for Base, but storing any text in the fields can be in syllabics.
 The function of typing in syllabics would mainly be in word processing.
 
 If the focus of typing in syllabics were to be in in Writer, could that be
 available in all platforms?
 
 This truly will be a digital revolution for Inuktitut typing if this can be
 done! A remarkable achievement it will be, to instantly type in Inuktitut!
 
 And right now, my main focus is to be able to take that VB code and somehow
 (I'm almost completely blind in C) and duplicate it for the standards of
 Open Office.

just a quick addition, if it becomes an extension later it could be
implemented in Java as well.
But implemented as extension or directly integrated i the core depends
on some further investigation. It sounds very interesting and we are
happy if we can support you to the benefit of all Inuktitut speaking people.

I will be on vacation for 1 week and when I am back I will try to take a
closer look on your solution to understand it better ...

Juergen



 
 I will subscribe to the mailing lists in your suggestions,
 
 Once again, I thank you for all the advice and appreciate all the work that
 has been done!
 
 Take care
 
 Andrew
 
 
 On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 2:10 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:
 
 On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 1:28 PM, atagak xplornet.ca ata...@xplornet.ca
 wrote:
 Good afternoon everyone!

 My names is Andrew Tagak Jr., I'm an Inuk (Eskimo) from Nunavut, Canada,
 living in a small city by the name of Iqaluit (Many Fish).


 Hello Andrew,

 I am Rob Weir, one of the volunteers on the Apache OpenOffice project.
   I'm in the US, in Massachusetts.  I always wanted to visit Nunavut
 and see the northern lights.

 Welcome to the Dev mailing list.  This is a public mailing list, so as
 a subscriber everything you send gets sent to other subscribers, and
 you also receive any note that someone else sends, like this note.


 I have over the years developed small programs in Visual Basic. One of
 the
 programs I have developed is a transliterator that instantly converts
 Roman
 Orthography into Inuktitut Syllabics.

 I developed the program to ensure that the proper use of the orthography
 converts seamlessly in syllabics without having to learn a mapped
 keyboard
 to type, or to avoid downloading drivers to be installed on computers.


 Cool.

 My wish is to have such a program function in Open Office! That would
 be a thrill to be able to say a tiny little program like the
 transliterator
 can have a huge impact on all Inuktitut speaking and typing users across
 the globe! It would maximize technology to it's fullest capacity :)


 Yes, I could see how this would be very useful.

 I'm also developing the same program for other Aboriginal languages
 (Cree,
 Ojibwe, Cherokee and Dene)


 Excellent.


 Couple questions,

 1 - would it be difficult to integrate VB into C? Or, convert vb language
 into the Open Office language?


 A few things to think about:

 a) Do you want the tool to work in all editors (Writer, Calc and
 Impress?) or just in the word processor?

 b) What about platforms?  OpenOffice is available on Windows, Mac and
 Linux.

 If you want a solution that works on all the OpenOffice applications,
 and cross-platform, then that will probably lead you away from Visual
 Basic and toward either OpenOffice Basic or C/C++.


 and 2 - If it is possible, any chance I can get any support or learning
 tutors to help with the wish I have?


 We have many volunteers who are far more knowledgeable about the
 extension mechanisms in OpenOffice.  Hopefully that can give you some
 good ideas.

 Note:  we have two other mailing lists, with less traffic, that are
 also relevant to your ideas.

 We have a localization mailing list, which you can subscribe by
 sending a note to:  l10n-subscr...@openoffice.apache.org

 And we also have a list dedicated to writing OpenOffice extensions:
 api-subscr...@openoffice.apache.org

 If you need some samples they are found on my site;

 http://www.tagak.net

 I have found an Add-on developed by Alex Beneson that transliterates
 other
 languages, and I have contributed Inuktitut to that particular add-on he
 developed;


 Are there others who might be interested in enabling OpenOffice to
 work better with Aboriginal languages?   We have an active
 localization effort for OpenOffice.  So if you know anyone who would
 be interested in seeing the OpenOffice user interface translated into
 Inuktitut syllabics, and bundled with an Inuktitut spell 

Re: Proposal: pr...@openoffice.apache.org alias

2013-02-25 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 2/25/13 7:15 PM, Rob Weir wrote:
 Currently we point press inquires to priv...@openoffice.apache.org.  I
 think it would be more professional to use an address like
 pr...@openoffice.apache.org or even me...@openoffice.apache.org.  But
 I don't think we want to maintain another mailing list.
 
 So, if there are no concerns, I'd like to request an mailing address
 alias, so emails directed to pr...@openoffice.apache.org get sent to
 priv...@openoffice.apache.org.
 

+1

Juergen