Insert command

2013-06-21 Thread Rajath Shashidhara
Hello,

The explanation for insert command is not clear to me.

If I call insert for a document, then I'll have to set the InputStream to
to existing document. What happens If I call insert for a folder?

Also, if the object specified by path doesnt exist on the repository, what
kind of error should be raised? I mean the XContentIdentifer points to a
location that doesnt exist, what kind of exception must be thrown?


-- 
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M.Sc(Hons.) Physics,
Birla Institute of Technology and Science - Pilani,
Pilani


Re: Insert command

2013-06-21 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 6/21/13 8:05 AM, Rajath Shashidhara wrote:
 Hello,
 
 The explanation for insert command is not clear to me.
 
 If I call insert for a document, then I'll have to set the InputStream to
 to existing document. What happens If I call insert for a folder?

you create a folder

 
 Also, if the object specified by path doesnt exist on the repository, what
 kind of error should be raised? I mean the XContentIdentifer points to a
 location that doesnt exist, what kind of exception must be thrown?

you should create it and only in case of an error you handle the error
appropriately and return back to the UCB.

In general you can open, edit and save document and folders, can create
new document and can delete document, rename document/folder, basic file
operations and all should be supported.

Juergen


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Re: PROPOSE Release Blocker: Re: Problem with Search function on 4.0

2013-06-21 Thread Andre Fischer

On 20.06.2013 21:33, RGB ES wrote:

2013/6/20 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org


On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 3:04 PM, RGB ES rgb.m...@gmail.com wrote:

2013/6/20 Hagar Delest hagar.del...@laposte.net


Confirmed on:
AOO400m1(Build:9700)
2013-05-07 14:38:38 (Tue, 07 May 2013) - Linux x86_64

NB: same with the Find toolbar.


Indeed. I filled this issue:

https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122567

This is a really problematic issue, IMO.


This is a duplicate of bug 122880, which already has a request for 
release blocker flag.  That bug has also already a proposed patch.


-Andre


I've set the Release Blocker ?  flag.


+1.

Ricardo




-Rob


Regards
Ricardo




Hagar


Le 20/06/2013 20:32, RGB ES a écrit :


  I need someone to confirm a problem before doing a report.

Open a new Writer document and type

Text, text, TEXT

Now press Ctrl-F to activate the search tool. Be sure that match

case is

NOT selected and search for text: the tool will only find the second
word, ignoring the first and third ones as if match case were

selected.

This in on the ES build:

AOO400m2(Build:9701)  -  Rev. 1493305
2013-06-15 03:58:54 (Sat, 15 Jun 2013) - Linux x86_64

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Re: Triage for AOO 4.0.0 Release Blockers

2013-06-21 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 6/20/13 8:01 PM, Edwin Sharp wrote:
 Yes. 
 please allow to share the following objections:
 1. in general, bugs shouldn't be rated

I disagree here and you always rate issues starting with setting a
priority. And as always you can't fix them all with a fix number of
developers. It simply doesn't work. That means you have to prioritize
and that is quite normal.

 2. most are crashes - release blocker can be other than crash - i.e. copy 
 chart from Calc into Writer results in chart area without curve. this is a 
 huge bug that doesn't involve a crash
exactly and we have defined some criteria for issues, crashes, data loss
and security issues have always high priority. Regressions are also very
important especially when often used functionality is broken.

It is documented in the wiki but I haven't the reference in place yet,
have to look for it.

 3. with all the respect to Norwegian users, print dialog too wide is a 
 negligible problem
not for this specific user group and the fix is already available.

 4. there should be a documented evidence to the bug evaluation process, based 
 on approved SOP
I am not sure if I understand you here

 5. the general public has no declared release date - no need to rush as there 
 is no commitment to fulfill
no but the project have committed to a release date and I believe the
majority of the community support the new release. You have to set a
date and have define what is important for this date. You can always do
more and can fix more issues but that won't work very well.

 6. minor bugs should also get attention and be targeted
definitely but not short in front of a release. And of course nobody
prevent anybody from fixing such issues. We have a lot of them, many are
probably not longer valid and can be closed, other are not easy to fix
and so on. A good start would be of course to simply check older issues
if they are still valid or not.

 7. the judgment of introducing the sidebar with so many pending bugs should 
 be justified to demonstrate openness
as far as I know we haven't pending bugs here. Don't mix this up with
improvement or feature requests. Maybe I don't understand you and you
can explain it again

 8. RTF is rarely used today - no reason for two appearances in the list
RTF is as far as I known relevant for Ms interoperability in general and
important for other MS filters as well. Even the pure format is not used
often the functionality is important. If somebody knows more please
correct me.

 9. Are there no critical bugs in Math, Draw and Base?
probably yes and probably many other critical bugs in other areas that
are not detected yet or not proposed as showstopper

 10. Are there enough volunteers to treat these release blockers on time?
we hope we can fix them all but volunteers are never enough ;-)

If you think that other issue should be showstopper as well, please
propose them on the dev list and we can discuss them. That's the way how
we want to handle it

Further discussion should take place on the dev list


Juergen


 Thank you
 
 
 
 On Thu, Jun 20, 2013, at 18:09, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote:
 Hi,
 Any objections to mark these issues as release blocker?

 [1] 
 https://issues.apache.org/ooo/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=120250%20120443%20120513%20120559%20121008%20121143%20121256%20121435%20121479%20121751%20121925%20121968%20121977%20122163%20122300%20121772list_id=68303


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Re: [Translation] Reference to Symphony?

2013-06-21 Thread Andre Fischer

On 20.06.2013 22:00, Andrea Pescetti wrote:

RGB ES wrote:

2013/6/20 FR web forumooofo...@free.fr

https://translate.apache.org/fr/aoo40help/translate.html#unit=15551192
Is it correct?

AFAIK, several icons on the sidebar comes from Symphony's sidebar. Maybe
the path just reflects the picture origin.


Indeed. It's just an internal pathname, invisible to the end user, to 
be left untranslated. See 
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/trunk/main/default_images/sfx2/res/symphony/


I used this during implementation of the sidebar to be able to easily 
distinguish between AOO and Symphony icons.  A symphony/ directory 
exists for other modules as well.  With the implementation being 
finished the content of the symphony/ directories an be integrated into 
its parent directory.  This, however, is a very low-priority task.


-Andre



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Re: Problem with Search function on 4.0

2013-06-21 Thread Andre Fischer

On 20.06.2013 21:04, RGB ES wrote:

2013/6/20 Hagar Delest hagar.del...@laposte.net


Confirmed on:
AOO400m1(Build:9700)
2013-05-07 14:38:38 (Tue, 07 May 2013) - Linux x86_64

NB: same with the Find toolbar.


Indeed. I filled this issue:

https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122567

This is a really problematic issue, IMO.


I said this in another thread already but want to make sure that you 
don't miss it: this is a duplicate of the already existing bug 121880.  
That bug does already have a patch and requested release blocker flag.


-Andre



Regards
Ricardo




Hagar


Le 20/06/2013 20:32, RGB ES a écrit :


  I need someone to confirm a problem before doing a report.

Open a new Writer document and type

Text, text, TEXT

Now press Ctrl-F to activate the search tool. Be sure that match case is
NOT selected and search for text: the tool will only find the second
word, ignoring the first and third ones as if match case were selected.

This in on the ES build:

AOO400m2(Build:9701)  -  Rev. 1493305
2013-06-15 03:58:54 (Sat, 15 Jun 2013) - Linux x86_64

Regards
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Re: Insert command

2013-06-21 Thread Rajath Shashidhara
Hello Juergen,

I mean if getPropertyValues is requested for non-existing content what is
the exception that must be thrown?


On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 12:09 PM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.comwrote:

 On 6/21/13 8:05 AM, Rajath Shashidhara wrote:
  Hello,
 
  The explanation for insert command is not clear to me.
 
  If I call insert for a document, then I'll have to set the InputStream
 to
  to existing document. What happens If I call insert for a folder?

 you create a folder

 
  Also, if the object specified by path doesnt exist on the repository,
 what
  kind of error should be raised? I mean the XContentIdentifer points to a
  location that doesnt exist, what kind of exception must be thrown?

 you should create it and only in case of an error you handle the error
 appropriately and return back to the UCB.

 In general you can open, edit and save document and folders, can create
 new document and can delete document, rename document/folder, basic file
 operations and all should be supported.

 Juergen


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M.Sc(Hons.) Physics,
Birla Institute of Technology and Science - Pilani,
Pilani


Re: Insert command

2013-06-21 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 6/21/13 9:09 AM, Rajath Shashidhara wrote:
 Hello Juergen,
 
 I mean if getPropertyValues is requested for non-existing content what is
 the exception that must be thrown?

I have to check the code of another UCP to say it exactly, I can't
remember for sure...

But the UCP handles or communicate errors via exceptions, don't ask me
why. Have you checked the exceptions and error codes (enums) on
http://www.openoffice.org/api/docs/common/ref/com/sun/star/ucb/module-ix.html?

Juergen


 
 
 On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 12:09 PM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.comwrote:
 
 On 6/21/13 8:05 AM, Rajath Shashidhara wrote:
 Hello,

 The explanation for insert command is not clear to me.

 If I call insert for a document, then I'll have to set the InputStream
 to
 to existing document. What happens If I call insert for a folder?

 you create a folder


 Also, if the object specified by path doesnt exist on the repository,
 what
 kind of error should be raised? I mean the XContentIdentifer points to a
 location that doesnt exist, what kind of exception must be thrown?

 you should create it and only in case of an error you handle the error
 appropriately and return back to the UCB.

 In general you can open, edit and save document and folders, can create
 new document and can delete document, rename document/folder, basic file
 operations and all should be supported.

 Juergen


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Re: Triage for AOO 4.0.0 Release Blockers

2013-06-21 Thread Oliver-Rainer Wittmann

Hi,

On 21.06.2013 08:57, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

On 6/20/13 8:01 PM, Edwin Sharp wrote:

Yes. please allow to share the following objections: 1. in general,
bugs shouldn't be rated


I disagree here and you always rate issues starting with setting a
priority. And as always you can't fix them all with a fix number of
developers. It simply doesn't work. That means you have to
prioritize and that is quite normal.


2. most are crashes - release blocker can be other than crash -
i.e. copy chart from Calc into Writer results in chart area without
curve. this is a huge bug that doesn't involve a crash

exactly and we have defined some criteria for issues, crashes, data
loss and security issues have always high priority. Regressions are
also very important especially when often used functionality is
broken.

It is documented in the wiki but I haven't the reference in place
yet, have to look for it.


3. with all the respect to Norwegian users, print dialog too wide
is a negligible problem

not for this specific user group and the fix is already available.


4. there should be a documented evidence to the bug evaluation
process, based on approved SOP

I am not sure if I understand you here


5. the general public has no declared release date - no need to
rush as there is no commitment to fulfill

no but the project have committed to a release date and I believe
the majority of the community support the new release. You have to
set a date and have define what is important for this date. You can
always do more and can fix more issues but that won't work very
well.


6. minor bugs should also get attention and be targeted

definitely but not short in front of a release. And of course nobody
prevent anybody from fixing such issues. We have a lot of them, many
are probably not longer valid and can be closed, other are not easy
to fix and so on. A good start would be of course to simply check
older issues if they are still valid or not.


7. the judgment of introducing the sidebar with so many pending
bugs should be justified to demonstrate openness

as far as I know we haven't pending bugs here. Don't mix this up
with improvement or feature requests. Maybe I don't understand you
and you can explain it again


8. RTF is rarely used today - no reason for two appearances in the
list

RTF is as far as I known relevant for Ms interoperability in general
and important for other MS filters as well. Even the pure format is
not used often the functionality is important. If somebody knows more
please correct me.


Just some more background on the RTF filter:
The RTF format is used on copy-and-paste actions between OpenOffice
applications and other applications.
For example, issue 120023 is caused by a defect in the RTF filter.


Best regards, Oliver.


9. Are there no critical bugs in Math, Draw and Base?

probably yes and probably many other critical bugs in other areas
that are not detected yet or not proposed as showstopper


10. Are there enough volunteers to treat these release blockers
on time?

we hope we can fix them all but volunteers are never enough ;-)

If you think that other issue should be showstopper as well, please
propose them on the dev list and we can discuss them. That's the way
how we want to handle it

Further discussion should take place on the dev list


Juergen



Thank you



On Thu, Jun 20, 2013, at 18:09, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote:

Hi, Any objections to mark these issues as release blocker?

[1]
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=120250%20120443%20120513%20120559%20121008%20121143%20121256%20121435%20121479%20121751%20121925%20121968%20121977%20122163%20122300%20121772list_id=68303





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Re: Insert command

2013-06-21 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 6/21/13 9:16 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
 On 6/21/13 9:09 AM, Rajath Shashidhara wrote:
 Hello Juergen,

 I mean if getPropertyValues is requested for non-existing content what is
 the exception that must be thrown?
 
 I have to check the code of another UCP to say it exactly, I can't
 remember for sure...

first guess InteractiveIOException but as mentioned before I have to
check the code ...

 
 But the UCP handles or communicate errors via exceptions, don't ask me
 why. Have you checked the exceptions and error codes (enums) on
 http://www.openoffice.org/api/docs/common/ref/com/sun/star/ucb/module-ix.html?
 
 Juergen
 
 


 On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 12:09 PM, Jürgen Schmidt 
 jogischm...@gmail.comwrote:

 On 6/21/13 8:05 AM, Rajath Shashidhara wrote:
 Hello,

 The explanation for insert command is not clear to me.

 If I call insert for a document, then I'll have to set the InputStream
 to
 to existing document. What happens If I call insert for a folder?

 you create a folder


 Also, if the object specified by path doesnt exist on the repository,
 what
 kind of error should be raised? I mean the XContentIdentifer points to a
 location that doesnt exist, what kind of exception must be thrown?

 you should create it and only in case of an error you handle the error
 appropriately and return back to the UCB.

 In general you can open, edit and save document and folders, can create
 new document and can delete document, rename document/folder, basic file
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Re: Triage for AOO 4.0.0 Release Blockers

2013-06-21 Thread Andre Fischer

On 21.06.2013 08:57, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

On 6/20/13 8:01 PM, Edwin Sharp wrote:

Yes.
please allow to share the following objections:
1. in general, bugs shouldn't be rated

I disagree here and you always rate issues starting with setting a
priority. And as always you can't fix them all with a fix number of
developers. It simply doesn't work. That means you have to prioritize
and that is quite normal.


2. most are crashes - release blocker can be other than crash - i.e. copy 
chart from Calc into Writer results in chart area without curve. this is a huge bug that 
doesn't involve a crash

exactly and we have defined some criteria for issues, crashes, data loss
and security issues have always high priority. Regressions are also very
important especially when often used functionality is broken.

It is documented in the wiki but I haven't the reference in place yet,
have to look for it.


3. with all the respect to Norwegian users, print dialog too wide is a 
negligible problem

not for this specific user group and the fix is already available.


4. there should be a documented evidence to the bug evaluation process, based 
on approved SOP

I am not sure if I understand you here


5. the general public has no declared release date - no need to rush as there 
is no commitment to fulfill

no but the project have committed to a release date and I believe the
majority of the community support the new release. You have to set a
date and have define what is important for this date. You can always do
more and can fix more issues but that won't work very well.


6. minor bugs should also get attention and be targeted

definitely but not short in front of a release. And of course nobody
prevent anybody from fixing such issues. We have a lot of them, many are
probably not longer valid and can be closed, other are not easy to fix
and so on. A good start would be of course to simply check older issues
if they are still valid or not.


7. the judgment of introducing the sidebar with so many pending bugs should be 
justified to demonstrate openness


I don't understand the second part of the sentence.

I have divided the bugs regarding the sidebar into three categories. For 
each category exists one meta issue:


1. Bugs that have to be fixed for the 4.0 release are covered by issue 
121420 (https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=121420)

At the moment there are no open bugs blocking it.

2. Bugs that should be addressed after the 4.0 release are marked as 
blockers of issue 122364 
(https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122364)
These are bugs that don't have a big impact on the majority of users or 
would require a tremendous amount of work to fix them.  There are six 
bugs in this category.


3.  Requested enhancements form the third category described by issue 
122257 (https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122257).  There 
are 18 feature requests or enhancements.



As said above, only bugs in the first category will be fixed for the 4.0 
release.  At the moment there are no such open bugs.


-Andre


as far as I know we haven't pending bugs here. Don't mix this up with
improvement or feature requests. Maybe I don't understand you and you
can explain it again


8. RTF is rarely used today - no reason for two appearances in the list

RTF is as far as I known relevant for Ms interoperability in general and
important for other MS filters as well. Even the pure format is not used
often the functionality is important. If somebody knows more please
correct me.


9. Are there no critical bugs in Math, Draw and Base?

probably yes and probably many other critical bugs in other areas that
are not detected yet or not proposed as showstopper


10. Are there enough volunteers to treat these release blockers on time?

we hope we can fix them all but volunteers are never enough ;-)

If you think that other issue should be showstopper as well, please
propose them on the dev list and we can discuss them. That's the way how
we want to handle it

Further discussion should take place on the dev list


Juergen



Thank you



On Thu, Jun 20, 2013, at 18:09, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote:

Hi,
Any objections to mark these issues as release blocker?

[1]
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=120250%20120443%20120513%20120559%20121008%20121143%20121256%20121435%20121479%20121751%20121925%20121968%20121977%20122163%20122300%20121772list_id=68303


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Re: Can somebody please commit the update of the de-websites

2013-06-21 Thread Jörg Schmidt
Hello Rob, 

 -Original Message-
 From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org] 
 Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 7:28 PM
 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org; Jörg Schmidt
 Subject: Re: Can somebody please commit the update of the de-websites
 
 On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 2:41 AM, Jörg Schmidt 
 joe...@j-m-schmidt.de wrote:
  Hello,
 
  So far we had no one who takes care of updating the web 
 pages in the German community.
  Meanwhile, a new volunteer has, with Piotr, found that 
 makes this work. However, Piotr needs help commit himself so 
 far that he is not a committer.
 
 
 There was a discussion on this patch on the dev list.  I would have
 cc'de Piotr but he didn't put his full name or contact information in
 the patch comment.

Piotr I will say that he should imagine on the dev list.
Ok?

 There was a concern over the link to the PrOOo-Box website.   Some of
 us (including me) were concerned about putting advertisements like
 that on an NL homepage.  As a non-profit we need to be fair and not
 promote one 3rd party over another.

Rob, that's not to understand the PrOOo box is the OpenOffice CD of the German 
community for over 8 years. The deutschgen users know this CD.

Always all content and changes in PrOOo box in the community were discussed, 
the content of PrOOo of the community always was approved.

We are also very happy to have taken into account all information of Apache, 
for example, currently a request by Andrea Pescetti and tradema...@apache.org.

What is the problem?

Where is _this_ discussion? I could not find anything.



AND let me say clearly, there is no special link to PrOOo box, there is only 
one news-Note!

AND ...

there are MANY, MANY other links to external resources [1], how else should do 
the website?

The PrOOo box is essential for us in Germany, without the PrOOo box, we can not 
effectively work for end-users because they expect to make a full CD, created 
by project members.

[1]
for example:
http://www.openoffice.org/de/foren.html

and the majority of these links is NOT run by project members - the PrOOo-box, 
however, is made for more than 8 years of project members from OpenOffice, in 
the past by members of OOo and current members of the German AOO community!


 I understand enough German to review patches for the de NL page, but
 it would be better, of course, to have a native speaker.

That's a good idea, I will contact you directly Oliver.

(I had hoped would help the Raphael, which was also the suggestion of Marcus 
(on the German list), but unfortunately, Raphael seems to have no interest.)


Greetings,
Jörg


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Re: Insert command

2013-06-21 Thread Rajath Shashidhara
Hello Juergen,

If I have to create new content, where do I obtain the properties of the
content. InsertCommandArgument2 has no attribute to store the content
Properties.

For example to insert a folder - what is its Title ?


On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 12:49 PM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.comwrote:

 On 6/21/13 9:16 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
  On 6/21/13 9:09 AM, Rajath Shashidhara wrote:
  Hello Juergen,
 
  I mean if getPropertyValues is requested for non-existing content
 what is
  the exception that must be thrown?
 
  I have to check the code of another UCP to say it exactly, I can't
  remember for sure...

 first guess InteractiveIOException but as mentioned before I have to
 check the code ...

 
  But the UCP handles or communicate errors via exceptions, don't ask me
  why. Have you checked the exceptions and error codes (enums) on
 
 http://www.openoffice.org/api/docs/common/ref/com/sun/star/ucb/module-ix.html
 ?
 
  Juergen
 
 
 
 
  On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 12:09 PM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  On 6/21/13 8:05 AM, Rajath Shashidhara wrote:
  Hello,
 
  The explanation for insert command is not clear to me.
 
  If I call insert for a document, then I'll have to set the
 InputStream
  to
  to existing document. What happens If I call insert for a folder?
 
  you create a folder
 
 
  Also, if the object specified by path doesnt exist on the repository,
  what
  kind of error should be raised? I mean the XContentIdentifer points
 to a
  location that doesnt exist, what kind of exception must be thrown?
 
  you should create it and only in case of an error you handle the error
  appropriately and return back to the UCB.
 
  In general you can open, edit and save document and folders, can create
  new document and can delete document, rename document/folder, basic
 file
  operations and all should be supported.
 
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Re: Insert command

2013-06-21 Thread Rajath Shashidhara
Hello Juergen,

the decription of insert some what makes it clear:

This command inserts a new content. It commits the process of
 // creating a new content via executing the command createNewContent
 // and initializing it via setting properties, afterwards.
 // The command is not called on the content which created the new
 // content, because the new object already knows where it is to be
 // inserted (i.e. Calling createNewContent with the content type for a
 // message on a News Group creates a content which internally belongs
 // to the Outbox. Calling insert on that message will result in
 // posting the article to the appropriate News Group). Not calling
 // insert for the new content, i.e. because the user cancels writing
 // a new message, simply discards the new object. No extra call to
 // delete is necessary.

But what is not clear is suppose there were more than one call to
createNewContent. and only one call to insert.

whether all the created content must be committed or only a particular
content must be committed. how to decide that?/?




On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 1:35 PM, Rajath Shashidhara 
rajaths.raja...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello Juergen,

 If I have to create new content, where do I obtain the properties of the
 content. InsertCommandArgument2 has no attribute to store the content
 Properties.

 For example to insert a folder - what is its Title ?


 On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 12:49 PM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.comwrote:

 On 6/21/13 9:16 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
  On 6/21/13 9:09 AM, Rajath Shashidhara wrote:
  Hello Juergen,
 
  I mean if getPropertyValues is requested for non-existing content
 what is
  the exception that must be thrown?
 
  I have to check the code of another UCP to say it exactly, I can't
  remember for sure...

 first guess InteractiveIOException but as mentioned before I have to
 check the code ...

 
  But the UCP handles or communicate errors via exceptions, don't ask me
  why. Have you checked the exceptions and error codes (enums) on
 
 http://www.openoffice.org/api/docs/common/ref/com/sun/star/ucb/module-ix.html
 ?
 
  Juergen
 
 
 
 
  On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 12:09 PM, Jürgen Schmidt 
 jogischm...@gmail.comwrote:
 
  On 6/21/13 8:05 AM, Rajath Shashidhara wrote:
  Hello,
 
  The explanation for insert command is not clear to me.
 
  If I call insert for a document, then I'll have to set the
 InputStream
  to
  to existing document. What happens If I call insert for a folder?
 
  you create a folder
 
 
  Also, if the object specified by path doesnt exist on the repository,
  what
  kind of error should be raised? I mean the XContentIdentifer points
 to a
  location that doesnt exist, what kind of exception must be thrown?
 
  you should create it and only in case of an error you handle the error
  appropriately and return back to the UCB.
 
  In general you can open, edit and save document and folders, can
 create
  new document and can delete document, rename document/folder, basic
 file
  operations and all should be supported.
 
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Re: Triage for AOO 4.0.0 Release Blockers

2013-06-21 Thread Andre Fischer

On 20.06.2013 17:09, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote:

Hi,

On 06.06.2013 13:54, Yuzhen Fan wrote:

Hi All,

Here is the list of identified candidates[1]/[2] which are proposed to
be 4.0.0 release blockers. Please indicate your selections for release
blockers by giving 1 vote to 1 bug (the vote field is beside the
importance field, in a bug form). We hope to get the vote score this
week, any bugs you think most critical to you, please bring out and
let's discuss.

[1]
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=doremremaction=runnamedcmd=4.0.0_release_blocker%3Fsharer_id=249289list_id=64740 


[2] Also attach the file for the list
(AOO4.0.0_release_blocker_candidates.ods)



Armin, Jürgen, Andre and myself reviewed in the last days the list of 
issues which had been requested for release blocker (release blocker 
flag = '?') and are not solved.


We propose the following issues as release blockers [1]:
- 120250


Bug 120250 can be removed from this list, it is now fixed.

-Andre


- 120443 (actually 121772 - 120443 is a dup. of this one)
- 120513
- 120559
- 121008
- 121143
- 121256
- 121435
- 121479
- 121751
- 121925
- 121968
- 121977
- 122163
- 122300

Any objections to mark these issues as release blocker?

[1] 
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=120250%20120443%20120513%20120559%20121008%20121143%20121256%20121435%20121479%20121751%20121925%20121968%20121977%20122163%20122300%20121772list_id=68303



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4.0.0_release_blocker granted: [Bug 121880] Find and Replace fails unless case is matched

2013-06-21 Thread bugzilla
j...@apache.org has granted fanyuz...@gmail.com's request for
4.0.0_release_blocker:
Bug 121880: Find and Replace fails unless case is matched
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=121880


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Re: Can somebody please commit the update of the de-websites

2013-06-21 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 3:34 AM, Jörg Schmidt joe...@j-m-schmidt.de wrote:
 Hello Rob,

 -Original Message-
 From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org]
 Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 7:28 PM
 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org; Jörg Schmidt
 Subject: Re: Can somebody please commit the update of the de-websites

 On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 2:41 AM, Jörg Schmidt
 joe...@j-m-schmidt.de wrote:
  Hello,
 
  So far we had no one who takes care of updating the web
 pages in the German community.
  Meanwhile, a new volunteer has, with Piotr, found that
 makes this work. However, Piotr needs help commit himself so
 far that he is not a committer.
 

 There was a discussion on this patch on the dev list.  I would have
 cc'de Piotr but he didn't put his full name or contact information in
 the patch comment.

 Piotr I will say that he should imagine on the dev list.
 Ok?


Thanks.


 There was a concern over the link to the PrOOo-Box website.   Some of
 us (including me) were concerned about putting advertisements like
 that on an NL homepage.  As a non-profit we need to be fair and not
 promote one 3rd party over another.

 Rob, that's not to understand the PrOOo box is the OpenOffice CD of the 
 German community for over 8 years. The deutschgen users know this CD.

 Always all content and changes in PrOOo box in the community were discussed, 
 the content of PrOOo of the community always was approved.

 We are also very happy to have taken into account all information of Apache, 
 for example, currently a request by Andrea Pescetti and tradema...@apache.org.


This isn't a trademark issue.

 What is the problem?


The CD is not from the Apache OpenOffice project.  It was not reviewed
and approved for release by the project.  It is a 3rd party product.
The website says it is from Verein Freies Office Deutschland e.V..:

http://www.prooo-box.org/

Of course, this doesn't mean it is a bad thing.  Personally I think it
is wonderful that this exists.  Just like I'm happy to see winPenPack
version of AOO.  But these are still 3rd party distributions.

And since they are third party distributions, from other
organizations, we need to be careful in how we refer to them on our
website.  The practice we've adopted for this is to list such
distributions (and ports) on a special page:

http://www.openoffice.org/porting/

The ensures fairness.  Everyone wants placement on the front page of
the website.  We get requests (to the private list) from companies on
a regular basis begging us to partner with them and looking for a
mention on the website.  We refuse them every time.

So a good solution would be to have a page that mentions all 3rd party
distributions of AOO and has a disclaimer like we have on the /porting
page:

The following list of third-party party ports and distributions is
made available as a service to the community. The Apache OpenOffice
project does not officially endorse or maintain these packages

So we are fair and we don't give special prominence to any single 3rd
party distribution.  We don't have favorites or special relations
with 3rd parties.

But once we have a page that lists all 3rd party distributions, then
we can promote that page on the home page.

Another solution would be to create the CD (the ISO image) as an
official publication of the project, and have it be reviewed and
approved by the PMC.  That would require additional work, reviewing
the license and notice of the additional material, checking in the
source of the artwork, etc.  But if approved for release it would get
far greater attention, and could be linked to right from our main
download page.


 Where is _this_ discussion? I could not find anything.



 AND let me say clearly, there is no special link to PrOOo box, there is only 
 one news-Note!

 AND ...

 there are MANY, MANY other links to external resources [1], how else should 
 do the website?

 The PrOOo box is essential for us in Germany, without the PrOOo box, we can 
 not effectively work for end-users because they expect to make a full CD, 
 created by project members.

 [1]
 for example:
 http://www.openoffice.org/de/foren.html


This isn't the de homepage.  Material on the homepage has special
prominence and is seen as being official.


 and the majority of these links is NOT run by project members - the 
 PrOOo-box, however, is made for more than 8 years of project members from 
 OpenOffice, in the past by members of OOo and current members of the German 
 AOO community!


winPenPack is old 8 years old.  But we do not link to it from our homepage.


In any case I hope the issue is clear here and no one turns this into
another Rob is oppressing the masses argument.

Regards,

-Rob


 I understand enough German to review patches for the de NL page, but
 it would be better, of course, to have a native speaker.

 That's a good idea, I will contact you directly Oliver.

 (I had hoped would help the Raphael, which was also the suggestion of Marcus 
 (on the German list), but 

Re: Triage for AOO 4.0.0 Release Blockers

2013-06-21 Thread Andre Fischer

On 20.06.2013 17:09, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote:

Hi,

On 06.06.2013 13:54, Yuzhen Fan wrote:

Hi All,

Here is the list of identified candidates[1]/[2] which are proposed to
be 4.0.0 release blockers. Please indicate your selections for release
blockers by giving 1 vote to 1 bug (the vote field is beside the
importance field, in a bug form). We hope to get the vote score this
week, any bugs you think most critical to you, please bring out and
let's discuss.

[1]
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=doremremaction=runnamedcmd=4.0.0_release_blocker%3Fsharer_id=249289list_id=64740 


[2] Also attach the file for the list
(AOO4.0.0_release_blocker_candidates.ods)



Armin, Jürgen, Andre and myself reviewed in the last days the list of 
issues which had been requested for release blocker (release blocker 
flag = '?') and are not solved.


We propose the following issues as release blockers [1]:
- 120250
- 120443 (actually 121772 - 120443 is a dup. of this one)
- 120513
- 120559
- 121008
- 121143
- 121256


121256 can also be removed because it got fixed in the meantime.


- 121435
- 121479
- 121751
- 121925
- 121968
- 121977
- 122163
- 122300

Any objections to mark these issues as release blocker?

[1] 
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=120250%20120443%20120513%20120559%20121008%20121143%20121256%20121435%20121479%20121751%20121925%20121968%20121977%20122163%20122300%20121772list_id=68303



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Re: PROPOSE Release Blocker: Re: Problem with Search function on 4.0

2013-06-21 Thread RGB ES
2013/6/21 Andre Fischer awf@gmail.com

 On 20.06.2013 21:33, RGB ES wrote:

 2013/6/20 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org

  On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 3:04 PM, RGB ES rgb.m...@gmail.com wrote:

 2013/6/20 Hagar Delest hagar.del...@laposte.net

  Confirmed on:
 AOO400m1(Build:9700)
 2013-05-07 14:38:38 (Tue, 07 May 2013) - Linux x86_64

 NB: same with the Find toolbar.

  Indeed. I filled this issue:

 https://issues.apache.org/ooo/**show_bug.cgi?id=122567https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122567

 This is a really problematic issue, IMO.


 This is a duplicate of bug 122880, which already has a request for release
 blocker flag.  That bug has also already a proposed patch.


Good to know! (about the patch, I mean: confirm my poor skills on searching
bugzilla issues is a bad new for me... ;)

Regards
Ricardo





 -Andre


  I've set the Release Blocker ?  flag.

  +1.

 Ricardo



  -Rob

  Regards
 Ricardo



  Hagar


 Le 20/06/2013 20:32, RGB ES a écrit :


   I need someone to confirm a problem before doing a report.

 Open a new Writer document and type

 Text, text, TEXT

 Now press Ctrl-F to activate the search tool. Be sure that match

 case is

 NOT selected and search for text: the tool will only find the second
 word, ignoring the first and third ones as if match case were

 selected.

 This in on the ES build:

 AOO400m2(Build:9701)  -  Rev. 1493305
 2013-06-15 03:58:54 (Sat, 15 Jun 2013) - Linux x86_64

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[QA][Test Report] Weekly Status Update as of 20130621

2013-06-21 Thread Yuzhen Fan
Hi All,

We wrap up the AOO 4.0 Full Regression test this week, here is the weekly
update (6/17 - 6/21):

*Test execution:*
1. Testing of silent installation on Windows, it is passed in WinXP while
failed in Win7
Bug 122560 - msiexec installation only possible with parameter /i

2.  Full/Final Regression test
We have assigned 1804 (last week 1732) text executions to about 20
volunteers, and completed about 64% in execution (1150 test executions
done). We will retest the failed/blocked test executions as the defects get
fixed

*Defect summary:*
1. 4.0.0 release blocker candidate defects have been reviewed done, results
from Hamburg team and Beijing QA team have been combined by Oliver(thanks)
- 15 proposed release blocker
2. Silent installation defect (Bug 122560 - msiexec installation only
possible with parameter /i) is opened recently, it's a critical problem
that AOO does not allow administrators to deploy AOO as they need - propose
to add it in release block list
*
Issues  quality highlight:*
1. The problem of silent installation on Windows is not a new problem to
4.0, it is seen in a 3.4.1
2. The triage of bugs for AOO 4.0.0 release blockers is ongoing with a
proposed list
3. QAs are reminded to retest the failed/blocked test executions as the
defects get fixed
*
Volunteer status: *
1. No new volunteers(total 20 so far) on test execution work, 3 person ask
for more as they have completed their assignment
2. No new volunteers(total 6 so far) on defect work, the work on confirming
defects is closed for now, as we have identified the show stopper issues
for AOO 4.0
3. No volunteers on Base/Draw exploration test, we have execution gap here
*
Plan for next week:*
1. Prepare test env for Base exploration test - Platform (VM for RHEL) and
Database (DB2, ..)
2. Work with volunteers to verify defects with severity as blocker or
critical (total 84)
3. Work with development to prioritize critical defects as 4.0.0 release
blockers
4. Retest the failed/blocked test executions as the defects get fixed

Thanks you all for effort this week, let's continue and make progress next
week!

Regards,
Yu Zhen


[ANNOUNCEMENT] Javadoc HTML frame injection vulnerability and AOO SDK

2013-06-21 Thread Rob Weir
We've published a security bulletin and patch for the Apache
OpenOffice 3.4.1 SDK.

Due to a flaw in JavaDoc generated API documentation, one of the files
in the 3.4.1 SDK is vulnerable to an HTML frame injection attack.

Details on the issue, and a patched HTML file, can be found here:

http://www.openoffice.org/security/cves/CVE-2013-1571.html

Note: this impacts only installations of the SDK.  Normal end-user
installs of Apache OpenOffice are not impacted.

Regards,

Rob Weir
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Re: Can somebody please commit the update of the de-websites

2013-06-21 Thread Jörg Schmidt
Hello,

 From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org] 

  What is the problem?
 
 
 The CD is not from the Apache OpenOffice project.  It was not reviewed
 and approved for release by the project.  It is a 3rd party product.
 The website says it is from Verein Freies Office Deutschland e.V..:

No, this is absolutely *not* true! 

The Verein Freies Office Deutschland e.V.. is NOT the creator of the 
PrOOo-box, but that's us (Detlef, Jan and I) three members of the AOO-Community 
in Germany.

You can see my entry here:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Directory+of+Volunteers

and I can gladly Jan and Detlef ask to register there.

The Verein Freies Office Deutschland e.V. is the *only* one who pays us the 
hosting of the Box (850 euros per year).

*We would be pleased if the Apache paid. Apache wants to do that?*

 But these are still 3rd party distributions.

No, this is the Box of german Members of the AOO-Community!


But that is not the problem, because the question is a Others, namely how we 
can make local work on AOO when we can not even provide information users need?

A notice in a news-teaser is anyway only a temporary entry. What is the problem?


Rob, you have, tell me here on the list, the following:

* it's okay to get involved locally for AOO and Apache welcomes such activities

* I should self make a choice


However, I live in Germany, and here I know the OpenOffice users for more than 
8 years, and I know what users need for assistance.
And we all have to do something otherwise AOO lost in Germany. Sorry, but that 
*is* the truth.


 So we are fair and we don't give special prominence to any single 3rd
 party distribution.

But that is *not* what is needed. 

There shall be *no* permanent link, but only a *temporary* news-teaser. This 
teaser is automatically replaced by someone else, as soon as there are new 
news. 

What is the problem?



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Re: Can somebody please commit the update of the de-websites

2013-06-21 Thread RA Stehmann
Hi Rob,

I can understand your concerns, but they aren't drasticly.

I'm with you, that we have to make clear, the Box isn't a product of the
ASF but distributed by the Verein Freies Office Deutschland e.V...

But on the other hand the Verein Freies Office Deutschland e.V.. isn't
any old third party.

It's a charitable german entity supporting Free office software. It's
still supporting Apache OpenOffice. The computer an the monitor at our
Fosdem stand were provided by Verein Freies Office Deutschland e.V...

Disclaimer: I'm no member of that club, but know persons who are.

So IMO it's ok to put that news in the news line of the homepage, making
clear, who's the distributor of that product.

Regards
Michael



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Re: Can somebody please commit the update of the de-websites

2013-06-21 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 9:59 AM, Jörg Schmidt joe...@j-m-schmidt.de wrote:
 Hello,

 From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org]

  What is the problem?
 

 The CD is not from the Apache OpenOffice project.  It was not reviewed
 and approved for release by the project.  It is a 3rd party product.
 The website says it is from Verein Freies Office Deutschland e.V..:

 No, this is absolutely *not* true!

 The Verein Freies Office Deutschland e.V.. is NOT the creator of the 
 PrOOo-box, but that's us (Detlef, Jan and I) three members of the 
 AOO-Community in Germany.

 You can see my entry here:
 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Directory+of+Volunteers

 and I can gladly Jan and Detlef ask to register there.


I know who you are.  That is not the issue here.


 The Verein Freies Office Deutschland e.V. is the *only* one who pays us the 
 hosting of the Box (850 euros per year).

 *We would be pleased if the Apache paid. Apache wants to do that?*

 But these are still 3rd party distributions.

 No, this is the Box of german Members of the AOO-Community!


And Members of the AOO-Community are not the same as the Apache
OpenOffice project.  So they are third parties.  Otherwise we run
into absurdities, like Members of IBM (who are also member of the
project) getting together asking to host links to Symphony on the
www.openoffice.org homepage.



 But that is not the problem, because the question is a Others, namely how we 
 can make local work on AOO when we can not even provide information users 
 need?

 A notice in a news-teaser is anyway only a temporary entry. What is the 
 problem?


I'm sorry what I said was not clear.  Maybe someone else can explain it better.


 Rob, you have, tell me here on the list, the following:

 * it's okay to get involved locally for AOO and Apache welcomes such 
 activities

 * I should self make a choice


 However, I live in Germany, and here I know the OpenOffice users for more 
 than 8 years, and I know what users need for assistance.
 And we all have to do something otherwise AOO lost in Germany. Sorry, but 
 that *is* the truth.


This is all fine.  We just need to be clear what is a product of
Apache, and what is done by 3rd parties, even 3rd parties who are also
members of the project.  And for 3rd parties we must treat their
products specially.And one area we need to be careful about is how
we advertise 3rd party products on the website.


 So we are fair and we don't give special prominence to any single 3rd
 party distribution.

 But that is *not* what is needed.

 There shall be *no* permanent link, but only a *temporary* news-teaser. This 
 teaser is automatically replaced by someone else, as soon as there are new 
 news.

 What is the problem?


Advertising 3rd party products on the homepage.

-Rob



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Re: Can somebody please commit the update of the de-websites

2013-06-21 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 10:21 AM, Peter Junge peter.ju...@gmx.org wrote:
 On 6/21/2013 9:59 PM, Jörg Schmidt wrote:

 Hello,

 From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org]


 What is the problem?


 The CD is not from the Apache OpenOffice project.  It was not reviewed
 and approved for release by the project.  It is a 3rd party product.
 The website says it is from Verein Freies Office Deutschland e.V..:


 No, this is absolutely *not* true!

 The Verein Freies Office Deutschland e.V.. is NOT the creator of the
 PrOOo-box, but that's us (Detlef, Jan and I) three members of the
 AOO-Community in Germany.

 You can see my entry here:

 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Directory+of+Volunteers

 and I can gladly Jan and Detlef ask to register there.

 The Verein Freies Office Deutschland e.V. is the *only* one who pays us
 the hosting of the Box (850 euros per year).

 *We would be pleased if the Apache paid. Apache wants to do that?*


 As far as I understand the Apache way: Apache products must be hosted by
 Apache infrastructure(*), but as the PrOOo-Box certainly contains also
 non-Apache products it cannot be hosted at Apache. Seems a Catch-22 to me.
 Does someone has any good idea how to fix this? It would certainly be a good
 thing to continue the PrOOo-Box within the AOO community.


Do you have a list of what non-Apache products are included?

There may be something possible here.

The AOO install sets, for example, include non-Apache components.  But
we had to carefully review them for license requirements, and document
these licenses and required notices, etc.  And this was all decided by
a public vote of the PMC.

So this may be possible.  But it must start with a proposal and
discussion on the dev list.  So it is good to start this discussion
now.

-Rob


 (*) Apache strictly requires to avoid community fragmentation like it had
 happened with OOo.

 Best regards
 Peter








 But these are still 3rd party distributions.


 No, this is the Box of german Members of the AOO-Community!


 But that is not the problem, because the question is a Others, namely how
 we can make local work on AOO when we can not even provide information users
 need?

 A notice in a news-teaser is anyway only a temporary entry. What is the
 problem?


 Rob, you have, tell me here on the list, the following:

 * it's okay to get involved locally for AOO and Apache welcomes such
 activities

 * I should self make a choice


 However, I live in Germany, and here I know the OpenOffice users for more
 than 8 years, and I know what users need for assistance.
 And we all have to do something otherwise AOO lost in Germany. Sorry, but
 that *is* the truth.


 So we are fair and we don't give special prominence to any single 3rd
 party distribution.


 But that is *not* what is needed.

 There shall be *no* permanent link, but only a *temporary* news-teaser.
 This teaser is automatically replaced by someone else, as soon as there are
 new news.

 What is the problem?



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Re: Can somebody please commit the update of the de-websites

2013-06-21 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 10:56 AM, RA Stehmann
anw...@rechtsanwalt-stehmann.de wrote:
 Hi Rob,

 I can understand your concerns, but they aren't drasticly.

 I'm with you, that we have to make clear, the Box isn't a product of the
 ASF but distributed by the Verein Freies Office Deutschland e.V...

 But on the other hand the Verein Freies Office Deutschland e.V.. isn't
 any old third party.


We need to be fair.  Treating one 3rd party special is not fair.

 It's a charitable german entity supporting Free office software. It's
 still supporting Apache OpenOffice. The computer an the monitor at our
 Fosdem stand were provided by Verein Freies Office Deutschland e.V...

 Disclaimer: I'm no member of that club, but know persons who are.

 So IMO it's ok to put that news in the news line of the homepage, making
 clear, who's the distributor of that product.


I'd be much happier if the German community listened to what I am
saying and took steps to address the full issue. IMHO you need to add
a page that gives equal access to all 3rd party ports and
distributions, and not just favor a single one with a news
announcement.

If you then give announcements of updates to these distributions,
whenever they occur, and do such announcements fairly, not for just a
single 3rd party, then this might be OK.   So if you really want to
move this forward I'd highly recommend creating and maintaining a
German version of the porting page:
http://www.openoffice.org/porting/

-Rob

 Regards
 Michael


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Re: Build AOO in Win7 Troubles

2013-06-21 Thread Ivan Fuentes
Thank you, i did it, I've been kind of busy at my job, but this weekend i'm
going to be working in the project
El jun 14, 2013 11:01 PM, Raphael Bircher r.birc...@gmx.ch escribió:

 Hi

 Am 15.06.13 05:43, schrieb Ivan Fuentes:

 I know i followed all the instructuctions...I could fix that error,
 Now i got this one:

 bundling of dictionaries is disabled.

 This one is not a error, you should be able to continue

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Hello! I'm Piotr!

2013-06-21 Thread Piotr Bala
Hello everybody!

I'm Piotr and at this time I help to develop the german AOO Website.
I have contributed some changes that Jörg and I talked about in the german 
mailing list.

So if you have any question to me, i am now on the international developer 
mailing list.

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Re: Can somebody please commit the update of the de-websites

2013-06-21 Thread RGB ES
2013/6/21 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org

 On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 10:56 AM, RA Stehmann
 anw...@rechtsanwalt-stehmann.de wrote:
  Hi Rob,
 
  I can understand your concerns, but they aren't drasticly.
 
  I'm with you, that we have to make clear, the Box isn't a product of the
  ASF but distributed by the Verein Freies Office Deutschland e.V...
 
  But on the other hand the Verein Freies Office Deutschland e.V.. isn't
  any old third party.
 

 We need to be fair.  Treating one 3rd party special is not fair.


+1. An exception never confirms a rule, an exception always break a rule.
No matter if we are talking about an old and trusted friend, a third party
is always a third party with the same rights and duties of all other third
parties.




  It's a charitable german entity supporting Free office software. It's
  still supporting Apache OpenOffice. The computer an the monitor at our
  Fosdem stand were provided by Verein Freies Office Deutschland e.V...
 
  Disclaimer: I'm no member of that club, but know persons who are.
 
  So IMO it's ok to put that news in the news line of the homepage, making
  clear, who's the distributor of that product.
 

 I'd be much happier if the German community listened to what I am
 saying and took steps to address the full issue. IMHO you need to add
 a page that gives equal access to all 3rd party ports and
 distributions, and not just favor a single one with a news
 announcement.

 If you then give announcements of updates to these distributions,
 whenever they occur, and do such announcements fairly, not for just a
 single 3rd party, then this might be OK.   So if you really want to
 move this forward I'd highly recommend creating and maintaining a
 German version of the porting page:
 http://www.openoffice.org/porting/


+1 again. IMO, this is by far the best solution. All community members
deserve the same respect.

Regards
Ricardo



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Re: Can somebody please commit the update of the de-websites

2013-06-21 Thread Jörg Schmidt
 From: RA Stehmann [mailto:anw...@rechtsanwalt-stehmann.de] 

 I can understand your concerns, but they aren't drasticly.
 
 I'm with you, that we have to make clear, the Box isn't a 
 product of the
 ASF but distributed by the Verein Freies Office Deutschland e.V...

No, that's not right!

The Verein Freies Office Deutschland e.V.. only pays for web hosting, it has 
no rights or influence the content.


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Jörg


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Re: Can somebody please commit the update of the de-websites

2013-06-21 Thread Dr. Michael Stehmann
Am 21.06.2013 17:06, schrieb Rob Weir:
 On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 10:56 AM, RA Stehmann
 anw...@rechtsanwalt-stehmann.de wrote:
 Hi Rob,

 I can understand your concerns, but they aren't drasticly.

 I'm with you, that we have to make clear, the Box isn't a product of the
 ASF but distributed by the Verein Freies Office Deutschland e.V...

 But on the other hand the Verein Freies Office Deutschland e.V.. isn't
 any old third party.

 
 We need to be fair.  Treating one 3rd party special is not fair.

Treating equal things unequal isn't fair, but it's also unfair treating
unequal things equal. You have to make the decision, what's equal and
whd what's unequa and in what aspect. That's the sense of suum cuique
tribuere.
 
 It's a charitable german entity supporting Free office software. It's
 still supporting Apache OpenOffice. The computer an the monitor at our
 Fosdem stand were provided by Verein Freies Office Deutschland e.V...

 Disclaimer: I'm no member of that club, but know persons who are.

 So IMO it's ok to put that news in the news line of the homepage, making
 clear, who's the distributor of that product.

 
 I'd be much happier if the German community listened to what I am
 saying and took steps to address the full issue. IMHO you need to add
 a page that gives equal access to all 3rd party ports and
 distributions, and not just favor a single one with a news
 announcement.

see above.

IMO you like to treat uneqal things equal.

Making a page presenting third party products makes sense.

But it don't makes sense, presenting all third party products in the
news. And it makes IMO sense presenting the box there.

 
 If you then give announcements of updates to these distributions,
 whenever they occur, and do such announcements fairly, not for just a
 single 3rd party, then this might be OK.   So if you really want to
 move this forward I'd highly recommend creating and maintaining a
 German version of the porting page:
 http://www.openoffice.org/porting/
 

Doing one thing doesn't mean to drop another.

Regards
Michael





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Re: Can somebody please commit the update of the de-websites

2013-06-21 Thread Dr. Michael Stehmann
Am 21.06.2013 17:35, schrieb Jörg Schmidt:
 From: RA Stehmann [mailto:anw...@rechtsanwalt-stehmann.de] 
 
 I can understand your concerns, but they aren't drasticly.

 I'm with you, that we have to make clear, the Box isn't a 
 product of the
 ASF but distributed by the Verein Freies Office Deutschland e.V...
 
 No, that's not right!
 
 The Verein Freies Office Deutschland e.V.. only pays for web hosting, it 
 has no rights or influence the content.
 
 
Someone is responsible for the box and it semms to me, it's not the ASF.
So we have to make clear, who's the legal entity distributing the box
(even it's a gift).

Regards
Michael




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Re: Can somebody please commit the update of the de-websites

2013-06-21 Thread Dave Fisher

On Jun 21, 2013, at 9:40 AM, Dr. Michael Stehmann wrote:

 Am 21.06.2013 17:06, schrieb Rob Weir:
 On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 10:56 AM, RA Stehmann
 anw...@rechtsanwalt-stehmann.de wrote:
 Hi Rob,
 
 I can understand your concerns, but they aren't drasticly.
 
 I'm with you, that we have to make clear, the Box isn't a product of the
 ASF but distributed by the Verein Freies Office Deutschland e.V...
 
 But on the other hand the Verein Freies Office Deutschland e.V.. isn't
 any old third party.
 
 
 We need to be fair.  Treating one 3rd party special is not fair.
 
 Treating equal things unequal isn't fair, but it's also unfair treating
 unequal things equal. You have to make the decision, what's equal and
 whd what's unequa and in what aspect. That's the sense of suum cuique
 tribuere.

My recollection of the discussion was.

(1) Have a 3rd party page.

(2) Each language may have their own 3rd party page.

(3) Each language can have their own news feed.

(4) Each news item may link to a 3rd party page.

Conclusion.

DE page can have news about PrOOo and point to a link on the 3rd party page.

Do we all agree?

Regards,
Dave

 
 It's a charitable german entity supporting Free office software. It's
 still supporting Apache OpenOffice. The computer an the monitor at our
 Fosdem stand were provided by Verein Freies Office Deutschland e.V...
 
 Disclaimer: I'm no member of that club, but know persons who are.
 
 So IMO it's ok to put that news in the news line of the homepage, making
 clear, who's the distributor of that product.
 
 
 I'd be much happier if the German community listened to what I am
 saying and took steps to address the full issue. IMHO you need to add
 a page that gives equal access to all 3rd party ports and
 distributions, and not just favor a single one with a news
 announcement.
 
 see above.
 
 IMO you like to treat uneqal things equal.
 
 Making a page presenting third party products makes sense.
 
 But it don't makes sense, presenting all third party products in the
 news. And it makes IMO sense presenting the box there.
 
 
 If you then give announcements of updates to these distributions,
 whenever they occur, and do such announcements fairly, not for just a
 single 3rd party, then this might be OK.   So if you really want to
 move this forward I'd highly recommend creating and maintaining a
 German version of the porting page:
 http://www.openoffice.org/porting/
 
 
 Doing one thing doesn't mean to drop another.
 
 Regards
 Michael
 
 
 


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Re: Can somebody please commit the update of the de-websites

2013-06-21 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 12:57 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote:

 On Jun 21, 2013, at 9:40 AM, Dr. Michael Stehmann wrote:

 Am 21.06.2013 17:06, schrieb Rob Weir:
 On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 10:56 AM, RA Stehmann
 anw...@rechtsanwalt-stehmann.de wrote:
 Hi Rob,

 I can understand your concerns, but they aren't drasticly.

 I'm with you, that we have to make clear, the Box isn't a product of the
 ASF but distributed by the Verein Freies Office Deutschland e.V...

 But on the other hand the Verein Freies Office Deutschland e.V.. isn't
 any old third party.


 We need to be fair.  Treating one 3rd party special is not fair.

 Treating equal things unequal isn't fair, but it's also unfair treating
 unequal things equal. You have to make the decision, what's equal and
 whd what's unequa and in what aspect. That's the sense of suum cuique
 tribuere.

 My recollection of the discussion was.

 (1) Have a 3rd party page.

 (2) Each language may have their own 3rd party page.

 (3) Each language can have their own news feed.

 (4) Each news item may link to a 3rd party page.

 Conclusion.

 DE page can have news about PrOOo and point to a link on the 3rd party page.

 Do we all agree?


I assume for #4 that you mean the news feed points to the ASF-hosted
page that lists 3rd party distributions, but not to the 3rd party page
directly.   That is my understanding, at least.

It could say, for example, PrOOo Box now released with support for
AOO 3.4.1.  See our ports and distributions page for details.

That would be fine, IMHO.

I think a relevant fact for thinking about this is that there are a
number of corporations who contribute money and services to the ASF,
in order to keep it operating.  But we do not link to them on our home
page.  Instead we have a separate sponsors page that we use:

http://www.apache.org/foundation/thanks.html

I've never heard anyone offended by this practice.  We're not
insulting the companies that contribute to help the ASF.  But we don't
put up advertisements for 3rd parties on the homepage as a matter of
policy.

-Rob

 Regards,
 Dave


 It's a charitable german entity supporting Free office software. It's
 still supporting Apache OpenOffice. The computer an the monitor at our
 Fosdem stand were provided by Verein Freies Office Deutschland e.V...

 Disclaimer: I'm no member of that club, but know persons who are.

 So IMO it's ok to put that news in the news line of the homepage, making
 clear, who's the distributor of that product.


 I'd be much happier if the German community listened to what I am
 saying and took steps to address the full issue. IMHO you need to add
 a page that gives equal access to all 3rd party ports and
 distributions, and not just favor a single one with a news
 announcement.

 see above.

 IMO you like to treat uneqal things equal.

 Making a page presenting third party products makes sense.

 But it don't makes sense, presenting all third party products in the
 news. And it makes IMO sense presenting the box there.


 If you then give announcements of updates to these distributions,
 whenever they occur, and do such announcements fairly, not for just a
 single 3rd party, then this might be OK.   So if you really want to
 move this forward I'd highly recommend creating and maintaining a
 German version of the porting page:
 http://www.openoffice.org/porting/


 Doing one thing doesn't mean to drop another.

 Regards
 Michael





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Re: Can somebody please commit the update of the de-websites

2013-06-21 Thread Jörg Schmidt

 From: Dr. Michael Stehmann [mailto:anw...@rechtsanwalt-stehmann.de] 

 Someone is responsible for the box and it semms to me, it's 
 not the ASF.
 So we have to make clear, who's the legal entity distributing the box
 (even it's a gift).

The legal entity is, in this case, formally an group consisting of Detlef, Jan 
and me.

(Formally, the person responsible for the website is Jan, and for the DVD it's 
Detlef.)



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language of office program

2013-06-21 Thread Kristen Todd
Hi! Can you help me change the language of the entire office program? i
just bought this used computer and its all in Spanish

Thank you,

Kristen


Re: language of office program

2013-06-21 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Fri, 21 Jun 2013 10:28:08 -0600
Kristen Todd hd2m...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi! Can you help me change the language of the entire office program? i
 just bought this used computer and its all in Spanish
 
 Thank you,
 
 Kristen

Download the appropriate Language Pack from
http://www.openoffice.org/download/other.html
and install it.  It will change OpenOffice to the new chosen language.
 

-- 
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Re: Hello! I'm Piotr!

2013-06-21 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 11:11 AM, Piotr Bala p_b...@me.com wrote:
 Hello everybody!

 I'm Piotr and at this time I help to develop the german AOO Website.
 I have contributed some changes that Jörg and I talked about in the german 
 mailing list.

 So if you have any question to me, i am now on the international developer 
 mailing list.


Thanks, Piotr.I've seen your patches come through for the German
website.  I wanted to have a contact email in case I (or anyone else)
had questions before committing them.

As you probably heard, we're discussing PrOOoBox and how to mention it
on the website.

Regards,

-Rob

 greetings
 Piotr



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Re: Where to find images for splash screen, about box, etc.?

2013-06-21 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 3:33 AM, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann
orwittm...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Hi,


 On 11.06.2013 12:56, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote:

 Hi,

 I just want to mention issue 122331 [1].
 It is about a missing logo/image in the first visible dialog on the
 Windows installation.

 [1] https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122331

 Best regards, Oliver.

 On 11.06.2013 10:38, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

 On 6/11/13 9:58 AM, Andre Fischer wrote:

 On 10.06.2013 19:15, Rob Weir wrote:

 Where in the SVN tree can I find the images used for these three areas
 of OpenOffice where the logo is displayed:


 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4+-+Application+And+Launcher



 We're trying to determine the dimensions and formats needed for the
 updated logo.


 Splash Screen:
  main/default_images/introabout/intro.png

 Start Screen:
  There are two parts, left side and right side.  These exist in both
 regular and high-contrast version as well as regular and right-to-left.
 That makes eight images in total:
  main/default_images/framework/res/backing.png  (left
 side,  regular,   left-to-right)
  main/default_images/framework/res/backing_right.png(right
 side, regular,   left-to-right)
  main/default_images/framework/res/backing_hc.png   (left side,
 high contrast, left-to-right)
  main/default_images/framework/res/backing_right_hc.png   (right
 side, high contrast, left-to-right)
 main/default_images/framework/res/backing_rtl_left.png (left side,
 regular,   right-to-left)
 main/default_images/framework/res/backing_rtl_right.png (right side,
 regular,   right-to-left)
 main/default_images/framework/res/backing_rtl_left_hc.png (left side,
 high contrast, right-to-left)
 main/default_images/framework/res/backing_rtl_right_hc.png (right side,
 high contrast, right-to-left)

  The space between the left and right sides is filled with the
 images
 but these are basically empty (just background and shadow) and probably
 will not have to be modified.


 The shadow is very important here and is not seen directly, at least I
 missed it the first time I modified the image.


 main/default_images/framework/res/backing_space.png (center, regular)
 main/default_images/framework/res/backing_space_hc.png (center, high
 contrast)


 About Screen:
  main/default_images/introabout/about.png


 Other:
 Some other images that I stumbled upon while searching for those
 above.

 The current logo as 256x256 png:
  main/default_images/introabout/logo.png

 A really old logo (6 frames of an animation):
  main/default_images/sfx2/res/an01.png   ...an06.png


 Some more images used for the Windows setup or Mac dmg

 main/instsetoo_native/res/nologoinstall.bmp


 main/instsetoo_native/inc_openoffice/windows/msi_templates/Binary/Banner.bmp


 main/instsetoo_native/inc_openoffice/windows/msi_templates/Binary/Image.bmp



 main/instsetoo_native/inc_ooolangpack/windows/msi_templates/Binary/Banner.bmp


 main/instsetoo_native/inc_ooolangpack/windows/msi_templates/Binary/Image.bmp


 main/instsetoo_native/inc_sdkoo/windows/msi_templates/Binary/Banner.bmp
 main/instsetoo_native/inc_sdkoo/windows/msi_templates/Binary/Image.bmp

 main/setup_native/source/mac/ooo/osxdndinstall.png
 main/setup_native/source/mac/ooo/osxdndinstall_nologo.png
 main/setup_native/source/mac/ooo/osxdndinstall_lang.png
 main/setup_native/source/mac/ooo3_installer.icns

 main/setup_native/source/mac/sdk/osxdndinstall.png

 Especially the setup_native Mac images need later on some further
 tweaking of the DS_Store files that I will do.



 While working on issue 122331 I found the following images:
 main/setup_native/source/win32/nsis/ooobanner.bmp
 main/setup_native/source/win32/nsis/ooobitmap.bmp
 main/setup_native/source/win32/nsis/ooosetup.ico
 main/setup_native/source/win32/nsis/ooosdkbanner.bmp
 main/setup_native/source/win32/nsis/ooosdkbitmap.bmp
 main/setup_native/source/win32/nsis/urebanner.bmp
 main/setup_native/source/win32/nsis/urebitmap.bmp

 There are used in the different Windows installers.


Thanks.  I added them to the wiki, along with their sizes:

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Product+Logo+Use

-Rob


 Best regards, Oliver.


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Re: Can somebody please commit the update of the de-websites

2013-06-21 Thread Jorg Schmidt
 
 From: Dave Fisher [mailto:dave2w...@comcast.net] 

 My recollection of the discussion was.
 
 (1) Have a 3rd party page.
 
 (2) Each language may have their own 3rd party page.
 
 (3) Each language can have their own news feed.
 
 (4) Each news item may link to a 3rd party page.
 
 Conclusion.
 
 DE page can have news about PrOOo and point to a link on the 
 3rd party page.

In my view, that would be a very aktzeptable solution.

Please note:
an important part of the solution is that there are language-specific 3rd party
pages. Because that is understandable for the local user.

 Do we all agree?

I think the question is only for PMC members, it is not, then by me +1



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Re: Can somebody please commit the update of the de-websites

2013-06-21 Thread Jörg Schmidt
 

 From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org] 


 I assume for #4 that you mean the news feed points to the ASF-hosted
 page that lists 3rd party distributions, but not to the 3rd party page
 directly.   That is my understanding, at least.
 
 It could say, for example, PrOOo Box now released with support for
 AOO 3.4.1.  See our ports and distributions page for details.
 
 That would be fine, IMHO.

Yes, that would be possible.


Rob, an honest word:
I have taken care that the site is de current, and I know what German users 
want, _but I knew nothing of item 1 to 4_ (see Dave's mail) ... PLEASE consider 
that a no from you is a no for me, however, the attempt would help me to 
find a solution that will meet our (i mean the local German community) 
requirements for the de-website AND the rules of Apache have been a better way.
A little help is sometimes better than just the citing of rules.

Understandable?


Greetings,
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[4.0]Wrong cursor positioning when a comment is present on the document

2013-06-21 Thread RGB ES
I did not reported this yet.

Download this document

http://people.apache.org/~rgb-es/Test-Bug.odt

On pages 3 and 7 you'll see some text highlighted. There is also a comment
inserted on page 3. If you click on the yellow text on page 3, the cursor
jumps to the heading instead of remaining where you clicked. If you click
on the yellow text on page 7 the situation is even worse: the cursor jumps
to the footer of previous page.

Now, go to page 3 and delete the note: clicking on any yellow text the
cursor behave as intended.

Also, if with the note in place you delete text under the first heading so
the chapter gets reduced to two pages, the jump on page 7 does not occur.

The document is new, all styles defined today and created on

AOO400m2(Build:9701)  -  Rev. 1493305
2013-06-15 03:58:54 (Sat, 15 Jun 2013) - Linux x86_64

Can someone confirm this this *really* strange issue?

Thanks

Regards
Ricardo


Re: [4.0]Wrong cursor positioning when a comment is present on the document

2013-06-21 Thread RGB ES
2013/6/21 RGB ES rgb.m...@gmail.com

 I did not reported this yet.

 Download this document

 http://people.apache.org/~rgb-es/Test-Bug.odt

 On pages 3 and 7 you'll see some text highlighted. There is also a comment
 inserted on page 3. If you click on the yellow text on page 3, the cursor
 jumps to the heading instead of remaining where you clicked. If you click
 on the yellow text on page 7 the situation is even worse: the cursor jumps
 to the footer of previous page.

 Now, go to page 3 and delete the note: clicking on any yellow text the
 cursor behave as intended.

 Also, if with the note in place you delete text under the first heading so
 the chapter gets reduced to two pages, the jump on page 7 does not occur.

 The document is new, all styles defined today and created on

 AOO400m2(Build:9701)  -  Rev. 1493305
 2013-06-15 03:58:54 (Sat, 15 Jun 2013) - Linux x86_64

 Can someone confirm this this *really* strange issue?


OK, this is getting even more strange: if I hide the sidebar, the problem
does not happen...



 Thanks

 Regards
 Ricardo



Re: Can somebody please commit the update of the de-websites

2013-06-21 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 2:38 PM, Jörg Schmidt joe...@j-m-schmidt.de wrote:


 From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org]


 I assume for #4 that you mean the news feed points to the ASF-hosted
 page that lists 3rd party distributions, but not to the 3rd party page
 directly.   That is my understanding, at least.

 It could say, for example, PrOOo Box now released with support for
 AOO 3.4.1.  See our ports and distributions page for details.

 That would be fine, IMHO.

 Yes, that would be possible.


 Rob, an honest word:
 I have taken care that the site is de current, and I know what German users 
 want, _but I knew nothing of item 1 to 4_ (see Dave's mail) ... PLEASE 
 consider that a no from you is a no for me, however, the attempt would 
 help me to find a solution that will meet our (i mean the local German 
 community) requirements for the de-website AND the rules of Apache have been 
 a better way.
 A little help is sometimes better than just the citing of rules.

 Understandable?


In my very first post on the topic, I wrote:

So one solution discussed was to do similar to what we do with the
main English pages with winPenPack.  We have a general page for 3rd
party ports and distributions:

http://www.openoffice.org/porting/

So it might be good to add info about PrOOo-Box to that page.  And
then if you want, you could translate that entire page, or link to it.

That was true then.  That is true now.  It us unfortunate that it
required such a long thread for it sink in.

Regards,

-Rob


 Greetings,
 Jörg


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2013-06-21 Thread William
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Re: [4.0]Wrong cursor positioning when a comment is present on the document

2013-06-21 Thread Tsutomu Uchino
Hi,

2013/6/22, RGB ES rgb.m...@gmail.com:
 2013/6/21 RGB ES rgb.m...@gmail.com

 I did not reported this yet.

 Download this document

 http://people.apache.org/~rgb-es/Test-Bug.odt

 On pages 3 and 7 you'll see some text highlighted. There is also a
 comment
 inserted on page 3. If you click on the yellow text on page 3, the cursor
 jumps to the heading instead of remaining where you clicked. If you click
 on the yellow text on page 7 the situation is even worse: the cursor
 jumps
 to the footer of previous page.

 Now, go to page 3 and delete the note: clicking on any yellow text the
 cursor behave as intended.

 Also, if with the note in place you delete text under the first heading
 so
 the chapter gets reduced to two pages, the jump on page 7 does not
 occur.

 The document is new, all styles defined today and created on

 AOO400m2(Build:9701)  -  Rev. 1493305
 2013-06-15 03:58:54 (Sat, 15 Jun 2013) - Linux x86_64

 Can someone confirm this this *really* strange issue?


 OK, this is getting even more strange: if I hide the sidebar, the problem
 does not happen...
I can confirm the strange behaviour on side by side mode (middle icon) when
the width of the document window is not wide enough.
When the horizontal scrollbar of the document does not have scrollable
remaining,
the problem not happen on:
AOO341m1(Build:9593) - Rev. 1372282
2012-08-13 09:43:38(Mon, 13 Aug 2012) - Linux i686

Regards
- Tsutomu



 Thanks

 Regards
 Ricardo



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