On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 12:57 PM, Dave Fisher <dave2w...@comcast.net> wrote: > > On Jun 21, 2013, at 9:40 AM, Dr. Michael Stehmann wrote: > >> Am 21.06.2013 17:06, schrieb Rob Weir: >>> On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 10:56 AM, RA Stehmann >>> <anw...@rechtsanwalt-stehmann.de> wrote: >>>> Hi Rob, >>>> >>>> I can understand your concerns, but they aren't drasticly. >>>> >>>> I'm with you, that we have to make clear, the Box isn't a product of the >>>> ASF but distributed by the "Verein Freies Office Deutschland e.V..". >>>> >>>> But on the other hand the "Verein Freies Office Deutschland e.V.." isn't >>>> any old third party. >>>> >>> >>> We need to be fair. Treating one 3rd party special is not fair. >> >> Treating equal things unequal isn't fair, but it's also unfair treating >> unequal things equal. You have to make the decision, what's equal and >> whd what's unequa and in what aspect. That's the sense of "suum cuique >> tribuere". > > My recollection of the discussion was. > > (1) Have a 3rd party page. > > (2) Each language may have their own 3rd party page. > > (3) Each language can have their own news feed. > > (4) Each news item may link to a 3rd party page. > > Conclusion. > > DE page can have news about PrOOo and point to a link on the 3rd party page. > > Do we all agree? >
I assume for #4 that you mean the news feed points to the ASF-hosted page that lists 3rd party distributions, but not to the 3rd party page directly. That is my understanding, at least. It could say, for example, "PrOOo Box now released with support for AOO 3.4.1. See our ports and distributions page for details". That would be fine, IMHO. I think a relevant fact for thinking about this is that there are a number of corporations who contribute money and services to the ASF, in order to keep it operating. But we do not link to them on our home page. Instead we have a separate "sponsors" page that we use: http://www.apache.org/foundation/thanks.html I've never heard anyone offended by this practice. We're not insulting the companies that contribute to help the ASF. But we don't put up advertisements for 3rd parties on the homepage as a matter of policy. -Rob > Regards, > Dave > >>> >>>> It's a charitable german entity supporting Free office software. It's >>>> still supporting Apache OpenOffice. The computer an the monitor at our >>>> Fosdem stand were provided by "Verein Freies Office Deutschland e.V..". >>>> >>>> Disclaimer: I'm no member of that club, but know persons who are. >>>> >>>> So IMO it's ok to put that news in the news line of the homepage, making >>>> clear, who's the distributor of that product. >>>> >>> >>> I'd be much happier if the German community listened to what I am >>> saying and took steps to address the full issue. IMHO you need to add >>> a page that gives equal access to all 3rd party ports and >>> distributions, and not just favor a single one with a news >>> announcement. >> >> see above. >> >> IMO you like to treat uneqal things equal. >> >> Making a page presenting third party products makes sense. >> >> But it don't makes sense, presenting all third party products in the >> news. And it makes IMO sense presenting the box there. >> >>> >>> If you then give announcements of updates to these distributions, >>> whenever they occur, and do such announcements fairly, not for just a >>> single 3rd party, then this might be OK. So if you really want to >>> move this forward I'd highly recommend creating and maintaining a >>> German version of the porting page: >>> http://www.openoffice.org/porting/ >>> >> >> Doing one thing doesn't mean to drop another. >> >> Regards >> Michael >> >> >> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
