Cancellation from Mailing Lists

2014-03-30 Thread Ankit Kulshrestha
Dear Sir,
I regret to inform you that I can no longer be a part of the Apache
community. It seems that the level of coding skills required (in C++) is
much higher than my current level. However, I will work on developing my
skills in the next few years and will return again as a productive member
of the Apache Community.
 Regards
 -Ankit Kulshrestha


Re: Version for i-pad?

2014-03-30 Thread Guy Waterval
Hi Louis,

Many thanks for your explanations.

A+
-- 
gw


2014-03-29 15:43 GMT+01:00 Louis Suárez-Potts lui...@gmail.com:


 On 2014-03-29, at 08:58, Guy Waterval waterval@gmail.com wrote:

  Hi Louis,
 
  Kickstarter ?
  Could you develop a little more ?
  I don't understand very well.
  Many thanks.
 
  A+
  --
  gw

 The issue is that to develop a working ODF editor (and call it what you
 want) that has close enough resemblance to the UI for AOO to be acceptable
 to the AOO (and even LO) user base is not by any means impossible but does
 require a significant investment of developer time and energy--and then a
 continuing commitment to keeping it up-to-date and bug free.

 That the code should be open source would be nice.

 Work along the lines of porting AOO to Android has been done; a port
 exists. But as the dev. has explained to me, it's more a proof of concept,
 though a working one, than a useful app. Part of the problem, as I see it,
 is that the UI and UX of any tablet differs rather a lot from the
 desktop's. For starters, there is less space; then there is no keyboard,
 though that can be added to a tablet, easily enough, via Bluetooth. But
 there are other issues, and they are not insignificant.

 I have not checked MS's iPad offering, as to actually use the apps for
 more than viewing (sigh), one has to pay 100US/annum. That's a lot, and
 why? If I want a proprietary tool that actually already reads and edits
 MSFT files, I can use Apple's free productivity apps. They're actually
 pretty good. But they do not support ODF. (I don't think, but have not
 checked, MSFT on the iPad supports ODF, either.)

 UX Write also supports .docx on the iPad (and all iOS7 devices) but a) it
 doesn't have change tracking, b) doesn't yet support ODT, c) is so far
 proprietary; and d), is only on Apple's iOS. The developers would certainly
 include more things and conceivably alter licensing regime but

 Resources.

 Resources can be simply the money to pay for developers. The inducement of
 building an app that would be used in this setting and that would also be,
 ideally, open source, is probably today a lot clearer than it was last
 week, prior to the advent of Office for iPad. The totally unsurprising
 popularity of Office/iPad will perhaps make it a lot easier to engage
 developers in building something equivalent for AOO--or, as I would prefer,
 in a way, a good-enough solution. (Good enough is another way of being
 realistic: I don't imagine that many spreadsheet mavens will want to do
 their thing on a tablet, even with a spare keyboard and the same could be
 said of some complex presentation work. But I can see people using the Draw
 component, and I do see many using and wanting to use even more the text
 components. So one builds for logical use. Second. I don't see the point of
 preserving the architecture of AOO, though that is what was done with the
 port to Android--and I see that as a mistake. Why bother with it? Peter
 Kelly of UX Write has built a brilliant text editor for iOS without it,
 using HMTL... and is working on ODT support.)

 I further think that now is a rather good time to put out a call for table
 development. Again: Microsoft's belated splash into the pool. As always,
 the entry of Microsoft into a market that shadows its primary
 (tablet::desktop) profoundly alters that market's dynamics.

 Let's take advantage of that :-)

 Hence, somewhat--but not entirely--facetious notion of a Kickstarter-like
 campaign to garner funds from the people. I would prefer to have any kind
 of funded engagement be within Apache's universe, but it need not be.

 -louis
 
 
  2014-03-28 22:41 GMT+01:00 Louis Suárez-Potts lui...@gmail.com:
 
 
  On 2014-03-28, at 17:24, FR web forum ooofo...@free.fr wrote:
 
  Question asked many times
  See: https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=49t=61238
 
  Thanks. I'd guess we've already added this q. and its a. to the FAQ?
 
  And, just for fun. Say I start a Kickstarter (or equivalent for open
  source efforts) project. Idea to build an good enough ODF editor
 for iOS
  and Android for, initially, text, then later presentation / calc
 
  louis
 
 
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  De: Ilona Gersh ige...@netzero.com
  À: dev@openoffice.apache.org
  Envoyé: Vendredi 28 Mars 2014 17:11:22
  Objet: Version for i-pad?
 
  Hi, Is there a version of Open Office for I-pads? If not, is one being
  developed? If not, what do you suggest I use? Ilona
 
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Re: Cancellation from Mailing Lists

2014-03-30 Thread Tal Daniel
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On Sun, Mar 30, 2014 at 8:44 AM, Ankit Kulshrestha 
ankitkulshrestha0...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear Sir,
 I regret to inform you that I can no longer be a part of the Apache
 community. It seems that the level of coding skills required (in C++) is
 much higher than my current level. However, I will work on developing my
 skills in the next few years and will return again as a productive member
 of the Apache Community.
  Regards
  -Ankit Kulshrestha




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טל


Re: 4.1. Regressions

2014-03-30 Thread Tal Daniel
Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote (Mar 10):

 Changing entry of Field Version from an older version to a newer one
 should not happen.
 When a user submits a new issue the Field Version should contain the
 version on which the user observes the issue. Experienced community
 members, primarily by QA people, should refine the value, but only in the
 direction to older versions. Thus, finally the Field Version should
 document the version in which the issue occurs first.


I just saw this comment by Oliver, and as a reporter/user/translator, this
is new to me.
I'll update the guide with this instruction (
https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/QA/HowToFileIssue), and I hope Oliver
won't mind me quoting him.

Please review the guide, and add/edit, or add a note in the Discussion of
the Wiki page.
Thanks.


Re: [CWiki] Account Whitelisting

2014-03-30 Thread Andrea Pescetti

Stephenie B wrote:

Barrett, Stephenie Denver, ColoradoDocumentation, QA
Stephenie K Barrett


Done, account whitelisted. You can now edit pages.
Andrea

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Cannot find En Version of OpenOffice on website

2014-03-30 Thread Alexander Ivarsson
Hej,I have visited your site to download apache openoffice but you dont present 
the option of downloading the english version for people living outside of a 
english speaking country. As soon as i click the various download links on your 
site it directs me to a danish version with no option of downloading the 
english one. That is very frustrating for me and im sure other like me who have 
english as their 1st language.Alexander 

Re: Cannot find En Version of OpenOffice on website

2014-03-30 Thread Usman Azam
try this link http://www.openoffice.org/download/other.html#notes


On Sun, Mar 30, 2014 at 4:33 PM, Alexander Ivarsson 
alexanderivars...@live.com wrote:

 Hej,I have visited your site to download apache openoffice but you dont
 present the option of downloading the english version for people living
 outside of a english speaking country. As soon as i click the various
 download links on your site it directs me to a danish version with no
 option of downloading the english one. That is very frustrating for me and
 im sure other like me who have english as their 1st language.Alexander



Re: [Forum] Default preference to be changed ASAP (mail notification)

2014-03-30 Thread Hagar Delest

Le 26/12/2013 09:35, Andrea Pescetti a écrit :

On 25/12/2013 Hagar Delest wrote:

I've noticed that the default option for mail notification was set to
No! This must be an error.
The Notify me upon replies by default should be set to yes for all new
registration.


I support the change too. It happened to me recently, a couple times, that I had to go 
back and re-edit a reply just to tick the Notify me checkbox.


I suspect that many users are not aware that their question has been
answered.


This is a good point, and one that I hadn't actually considered. Probably users 
indeed expect to receive notifications out of the box, so they won't go and 
check the checkbox like I did. And they will miss answers and we will miss 
their feedback.


imacat, I cc you directly because this is a key feature of a forum


For the record, I had a look but my permissions on the VM (that should NOT be 
changed now, while we are in the middle of a discussion on how to rearrange the 
VM maintenance!) do not allow it: I can't get the MySQL connection parameters 
that would be needed to run the query that would fix it for existing users.


Well, three months later, 2 JIRA tickets were opened (#7173 and #7286) and the 
conclusion is : won't fix...

So if it cannot be changed with a mere code tweak (0 to bet set to 1) because 
it's forbidden by Infra, is it at least possible to install the php mod?
Do I need to open a new JIRA ticket for that?

I'm rather surprised (and disappointed) by current situation. If AOO project 
does not care about the main user support channel, how can it claim to be user 
focused?

Hagar

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Specifications for Enhancement Requests

2014-03-30 Thread Rainer Bielefeld

Hi all,

today I read [Issue 124455] introducing a attribute for spacing between 
paragraphs with the same paragraph style 
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124455. I think it's an 
Idea what is worth to think over, but it is one of those where several 
relations and possible obstacles have to be considered before a decision 
can be done whether we want to invest developer time for implementation.


I think for complex requests we should create something like a short 
specification where we collect all facts and thoughts, try to reach 
common sense how we should proceed.


https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Specification_template seems a little 
oversized, too complex and so rather deterring. Does anybody know a more 
simple Template, more or less similar to a check-list for the essentials 
like

* possible benefit
* risks
* To be considered, related issues
* alternatives (different solution, Extension)
* real life scenarios
* competitors' approach
* accessibility impact,
* Related Bugzilla issues

CU

Rainer

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Reporting a problem with the OpenOffice website

2014-03-30 Thread Charlotte Tuengen
Hello

I live in Norway and speak Norwegian. The OpenOffice Apache 4.0.1 isn’t 
released in Norwegian yet, so I’m trying to download it in English. That is not 
possible at all. It just says that “Apache OpenOffice 4.0.1 for Windows (EXE) 
and Norwegian (bokmal) is not available.” 

How can i download Apache 4.0.1 without the Norwegian spelling program?

Charlotte Tuengen 

Re: Specifications for Enhancement Requests

2014-03-30 Thread Andrea Pescetti

Rainer Bielefeld wrote:

https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124455 ...
I think for complex requests we should create something like a short
specification where we collect all facts and thoughts, try to reach
common sense how we should proceed.
https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Specification_template seems a little
oversized, too complex and so rather deterring.


Contrary to popular belief (at least in some circles), many things at 
Apache became easier, not more complex! So: for sure we won't be 
requiring that specification template any longer.


What we have seen at Apache is something like Oliver's specification for 
his work on input fields:

https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Writer/Input_Fields
(and Andre and others wrote clean, easy specification pages too).

In all cases, though, this was maintained directly by the developer 
working on a feature. So I suggest that you give a real developer 
(probably Oliver in this case) the possibility to assess the idea and 
tell us if it makes sense and how complex it is to implement. Then, 
depending on his feedback and subject to availability of someone who 
knows, it can be developed by an existing developer, proposed for a 
Summer of Code project and so on.


Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: Reporting a problem with the OpenOffice website

2014-03-30 Thread Keith N. McKenna
Charlotte Tuengen wrote:
 Hello
 
 I live in Norway and speak Norwegian. The OpenOffice Apache 4.0.1
 isn’t released in Norwegian yet, so I’m trying to download it in
 English. That is not possible at all. It just says that “Apache
 OpenOffice 4.0.1 for Windows (EXE) and Norwegian (bokmal) is not
 available.”
 
 How can i download Apache 4.0.1 without the Norwegian spelling
 program?
 
 Charlotte Tuengen
 

Charlotte;

This link should bring you to a page containing links to all available
languages: http://www.openoffice.org/download/other.html. From there
choose the windows version for English (US).

Norwegian (bokmal) will be available in the upcoming 4.1.0 release.

Regards
Keith



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Re: [Forum] Default preference to be changed ASAP (mail notification)

2014-03-30 Thread Hagar Delest

Top posting.
Andrea commented the JIRA ticket and a patch will be added. Thanks!

Hagar


Le 30/03/2014 18:41, Hagar Delest a écrit :


Le 26/12/2013 09:35, Andrea Pescetti a écrit :

On 25/12/2013 Hagar Delest wrote:

I've noticed that the default option for mail notification was set to
No! This must be an error.
The Notify me upon replies by default should be set to yes for all new
registration.


I support the change too. It happened to me recently, a couple times, that I had to go 
back and re-edit a reply just to tick the Notify me checkbox.


I suspect that many users are not aware that their question has been
answered.


This is a good point, and one that I hadn't actually considered. Probably users 
indeed expect to receive notifications out of the box, so they won't go and 
check the checkbox like I did. And they will miss answers and we will miss 
their feedback.


imacat, I cc you directly because this is a key feature of a forum


For the record, I had a look but my permissions on the VM (that should NOT be 
changed now, while we are in the middle of a discussion on how to rearrange the 
VM maintenance!) do not allow it: I can't get the MySQL connection parameters 
that would be needed to run the query that would fix it for existing users.


Well, three months later, 2 JIRA tickets were opened (#7173 and #7286) and the 
conclusion is : won't fix...

So if it cannot be changed with a mere code tweak (0 to bet set to 1) because 
it's forbidden by Infra, is it at least possible to install the php mod?
Do I need to open a new JIRA ticket for that?

I'm rather surprised (and disappointed) by current situation. If AOO project 
does not care about the main user support channel, how can it claim to be user 
focused?

Hagar

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Re: Reporting a problem with the OpenOffice website

2014-03-30 Thread Marcus (OOo)

Am 03/30/2014 08:02 PM, schrieb Charlotte Tuengen:

I live in Norway and speak Norwegian. The OpenOffice Apache 4.0.1 isn’t 
released in Norwegian yet, so I’m trying to download it in English. That is not 
possible at all. It just says that “Apache OpenOffice 4.0.1 for Windows (EXE) 
and Norwegian (bokmal) is not available.”

How can i download Apache 4.0.1 without the Norwegian spelling program?


In the green box you have a link to Get all platforms, languages, 
language packs for the version:


http://www.openoffice.org/download/other.html

PS:
AOO 4.1.0 will be available in Norwegian which will be released soon.

HTH

Marcus

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Re: Cannot find En Version of OpenOffice on website

2014-03-30 Thread Marcus (OOo)

Am 03/30/2014 01:33 PM, schrieb Alexander Ivarsson:

Hej,I have visited your site to download apache openoffice but you dont present 
the option of downloading the english version for people living outside of a 
english speaking country. As soon as i click the various download links on your 
site it directs me to a danish version with no option of downloading the 
english one. That is very frustrating for me and im sure other like me who have 
english as their 1st language.Alexander   


Please download only form the original webpage:

http://www.openoffice.org/download/

In the green box you have a link to Get all platforms, languages, 
language packs for the version:


http://www.openoffice.org/download/other.html

HTH

Marcus

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[Übersetzung] Verzeichnisse

2014-03-30 Thread Mathias Röllig

Hallo!

In der aktuellen Version wird im Writer die englische Bezeichnung 
Indexes and Tables wortwörtlich zu Verzeichnisse und Tabellen 
übersetzt. Das halte ich für sehr irreführend und falsch.


Das englischen Table of Contents ist im Deutschen ein 
Inhaltsverzeichnis. Insofern sollte man auch bei den Menüeinträgen 
wieder einfach zu Verzeichnis zurückkehren.


Aktuell betroffen:
Einfügen → Verzeichnisse
Extras → Aktualisieren… → Alle Verzeichnisse

Grüße, Mathias

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Re: [Übersetzung] Schwebender Rahmen

2014-03-30 Thread Dave
... würde beweglicher Rahmen passen?


2014-03-30 19:57 GMT+02:00 Mathias Röllig mroellig.n...@gmx.net:

 Hallo!

 Ich habe mal etwas Geschichtsforschung in alten Versionen betrieben, da
 mir (und wahrscheinlich allen, die es vorgesetzt bekommen) der Begriff
 Schwebender Rahmen nichts sagt. In früheren Versionen hieß das einfach
 Frame; im Englischen wird es zur Unterscheidung von einem Textrahmen
 Floating Frame genannt.


 Geschichte: Neben reinen HTML-Dokumenten konnte StarOffice auch
 HTML-Framesets erzeugen. Für HTML-Unkundige: Ein Frameset definiert ein
 (starres) Gerüst aus mehreren Rahmen (Fenstern), in welche dann einzelne
 HTML-Seiten geladen werden. Ist heute kaum noch gebräuchlich.

 Um dieses starre Gerüst aufzuheben und neben HTML auch andere Inhalte
 mitten in ein HTML-Dokument laden zu können, wurde bei MS der iFrame
 erfunden. Ein solcher Frame sitzt mitten im Text und fließt mit ihm mit.
 (→ floating frame) Ein solcher Inline Frame (→ iFrame) war OO-technisch
 dasselbe wie ein Frame im Frameset und hatte dieselben Eigenschaften zur
 Verfügung.

 Ich zitiere aus der aktuellen Hilfe:
 ---
 *Schwebender Rahmen - Eigenschaften*
 Ändert die Eigenschaften des ausgewählten schwebenden Rahmens. Schwebender
 Rahmen funktionieren am besten, wenn sie ein html-Dokument enthalten und
 wenn sie in in weiteres html-Dokument eingefügt werden.
 ---

 Wenn man nun einfach mal ein HTML-Dokument erstellt, stellt man erstaunt
 fest, daß der Befehl gar nicht zur Verfügung steht (inaktiv)!

 Zur Einführung dieses Features konnte neben StarOffice nur der MSIE mit
 einem iFrame im HTML etwas anfangen. Das hat sich inzwischen geändert, der
 zugehörige Hilfetext ist verschwunden, aber die Funktionalität ist nicht
 angepaßt: aktiviert wird diese Funktion nach wie vor nur, wenn man
 Extras → Einstellungen - Laden/speichern - HTML-Kompatibilität: Export
 auf Microsoft Internet Explorer ändert.


 Nach diesem geschichtlichen Schwenk zurück zum Ausgangspunkt:
 Entweder man kehrt zurück zum nichtssagenden Frame (iFrame wäre nur in
 Verbindung mit HTML-Export sinnvoll) oder man läßt sich eine deutsche
 Bezeichung einfallen, die irgendetwas mit der Funktion zu tun hat, wie
 Dokumentobjekt.

 Grüße, Mathias

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