Re: [WWW] home page/website(?) restyle
Am 07/12/2014 03:27 PM, schrieb Emanuele: As asked by Kay, here it is a new thread. Unfortunately I didn't have much time to volunteer to this (and I'm not sure in the next period either. ah, too bad. :-( Anyway, if you see anything you want from what I did, feel free to pick it (I suppose I can write here it is released under AL2 license and everything should be fine). We could assume that the author is putting all the work done under the Apache license as he is posting here. But when writing explicitly the lincense it's much better. So, thanks for this. That said, Marcus (OOo) wrote: Am 07/02/2014 09:41 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti: Marcus (OOo) wrote: Am 07/02/2014 07:50 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti: http://getbootstrap.com/css/#buttons I'm not really sure, maybe it will look very bad, but maybe there are some elements can we can work with. Maybe good or bad. But it's definitely a step back as the buttons are just colored but now we have a graphic. This would be gone which is, hm, not good looking... ;-) In the buttons of course one could reuse all the graphics, but still use Bootstrap buttons for the shape and to highlight the active choice. If the idea is to use bootstrap it may be worth re-adapt the entire HTML according to the bootstrap way. It will be a pain at the beginning (it basically means rewrite a lot of stuff), but I suppose it would be an advantage in the mid/long term. I think we will play at first - within a test area - to see what a framework can really do for us. However, to have your suggestion in mind is good to know now. For example, another thing I was considering is the separation of the menu and the breadcrumbs with a menu fixed-top and the breadcrumbs where the are now: http://testing.elkarte.it/testing/ooo/index_fix.html Fixed-top is already good. To get the height of the header reduced and also fixed would be great. All in all it looks very good. Of course our logo has to be put somewhere and maybe a bit more blue color into the header. However, the centered layout in general is fine. The carousel is out of discussion and IMHO already agreed to implement. The 2-column design for the list items/buttons is good. Finally, thanks for your efforts. That's definitve a great point to start from. :-) ah, yes, that would work. The current divs do not look bad (actually, they look nice!) on the current homepage, while they don't fit well in the new proposal; It would be nice to know why. ;) (Of course just because if you tell me the why I may try to understand how to fix it.) The very first time the hovers were a bit random (they didn't always reach the bottom border), in the second version they are more consistent (except the last two because the underline is not on the li, but on theul, but that's a detail that can be fixed), if it is what you mean. Kay Schenk wrote: The template pieces are currently in the /lib and /templates directory of the ooo-site tree. Are the css compiled somehow as well, or are they in the home.css, ooo.css, etc. files? No, they are plain and will be just applied to the webpage. Marcus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Code snippets from oooforum in AOO website?
Am 07/13/2014 03:04 AM, schrieb Andrew Douglas Pitonyak: OK, I finally got off my backside and called The OOoForum owner. Seems that he is alive, well, and very busy and was not even aware that the site was down. He said that he obviously has not been doing a good job and is willing to discuss with the AOO team moving content and/or site. Let me know who that's definetely good news. should have his contact information and I will send it on. Obviously I don't want to post his phone number to this list. You can send private things to our private mailing list as there is no public access: priv...@openoffice.apache.org Thaks for your ongoing effects. Looking forward to get this solved. Marcus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
[WEBSITE][DOWNLOAD] Newest updates to webpages
Hi all, I've finished some more work on the download webpages. Because you can benefit from these changes for your localized website you may want to know how to use it. - Download webpage: 1. All the colored boxes + navigation bar + logo section can be defined to be shown or not. If they should be shown, the text can be localized in msg_prop_l10n_XX.js. For an example see the source code of http://www.openoffice.org/xx/download/index.html;. - Download scripting: 1. Moved all variables and functions into an single global object DL. Now only this object is in the global scope of the browser window and no longer every little variable (best practices in JS scripting). 2. The same for the localization strings in msg_prop_l10n_XX.js (global object l10n). 3. An error text is shown when choosing not suitable select box options (e.g., OS X 32-bit + any language + 4.1.0). If it's not possible to translate the English wording properly into your language, then (more or less) free text can be defined. See the variables l10n.dl_error_custom_1_text until l10n.dl_error_custom_4_text (depends on the exception case) in msg_prop_l10n_XX.js. - Select boxes: 1. The list items can be localized. The current strings are in English and can be found in msg_prop_l10n_XX.js. See the variables l10n.dl_green_box_select_box_os_values, l10n.dl_green_box_select_box_language_values and l10n.dl_green_box_select_box_version_values in msg_prop_l10n_XX.js. 2. Furthermore, in the language select box the list items have a tool tip (native language name + ISO code). BTW: I'm now subscribed to the L10N mailinglist. And as always, if you need more details just ask. :-) Marcus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Fwd: [www] NEW language Selection Dropdown!
On Sun, Jul 13, 2014 at 12:02 AM, Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 07/12/2014 10:10 PM, schrieb Tal Daniel: I reordered the language list, and fixed the spacing to line separator. [...] Have you seen already that the current sorting looks a bit incomplete? The languages with latin characters should be sorted via their native names and the non-latin languages maybe via ISO code. Thanks for reviewing this, Marcus. I'll reorder the Latin lang. list alphabetically. Sorry to override your changes, yesterday :)
Re: AOo in a multi-lingual environment
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Re: [RELEASE, TOOLS] bash script to generate Update Feed
On 10/07/2014 Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote: below you find a commit of a bash script inclusive needed meta data to our devtools area of our code repository which can be used to generate the Update Feeds. Thanks, it's good to have tools and scripts available. openoffice/devtools/genUpdateFeed/feed-entry-template.Update Line 7 http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/devtools/genUpdateFeed/feed-entry-template.Update?view=markup has an xmlns attribute that is a non-existing URI. I know this is not a problem from a pure specification point of view (it could be whatever, provided it resembles a URI) but would it be worth/harmless to change it to https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Update_Service if that's the canonical URI describing the format we expect? Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [WWW] home page/website(?) restyle
Kay Schenk wrote: Thanks for the new thread and for the interesting new design. Given discussions about the website home page just form today, you can see there is considerable interest in improving our landing page. Yep, I saw the discussion a while after having sent my email (I'm a bit behind reading my emails). - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [WWW] home page/website(?) restyle
Marcus (OOo) wrote: Am 07/12/2014 03:27 PM, schrieb Emanuele: As asked by Kay, here it is a new thread. Unfortunately I didn't have much time to volunteer to this (and I'm not sure in the next period either. ah, too bad. :-( Well, I'll try to do something, but sure what. ;) For example, another thing I was considering is the separation of the menu and the breadcrumbs with a menu fixed-top and the breadcrumbs where the are now: http://testing.elkarte.it/testing/ooo/index_fix.html Fixed-top is already good. To get the height of the header reduced and also fixed would be great. hmm... I personally don't like too much very tall fixed headers, they tend to take up a lot of vertical space. Of course our logo has to be put somewhere The logo could go in the fixed menu for example, on the left, though in that case, I'd reduce the number of entries of the menu itself because at certain resolutions (from 800px wide up to 1024 and maybe something more depending on the size of the logo) the menu would go on two lines, and it doesn't really look good IMO. Mixing the two, what about some moving stuff around while scrolling? http://testing.elkarte.it/ooo/index_scroll.html Are the css compiled somehow as well, or are they in the home.css, ooo.css, etc. files? No, they are plain and will be just applied to the webpage. Okay, well, in my example I collected the bits from the various places into a single file (it's just about 400 lines, so not much to deal with), since most of them were not necessary. It seems I'm getting the grasp of how the website works, now I have just to understand how to enable SSI on my localhost. /me goes read some documentation on the matter... or at least some examples. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Code snippets from oooforum in AOO website?
On 07/13/2014 04:58 AM, Marcus (OOo) wrote: Am 07/13/2014 03:04 AM, schrieb Andrew Douglas Pitonyak: OK, I finally got off my backside and called The OOoForum owner. Seems that he is alive, well, and very busy and was not even aware that the site was down. He said that he obviously has not been doing a good job and is willing to discuss with the AOO team moving content and/or site. Let me know who that's definetely good news. should have his contact information and I will send it on. Obviously I don't want to post his phone number to this list. You can send private things to our private mailing list as there is no public access: priv...@openoffice.apache.org Thaks for your ongoing effects. Looking forward to get this solved. Marcus Realizing that I am not a member of the private mailing list if I simply send an email to the private mailing list, 1. Will my email go through (given that I am not a member). 2. should I have some expectation that after the message is received that someone will act on the message. My primary interest is that we find someone who has the ability / authority or or what ever is required to make this happen. -- Andrew Pitonyak My Macro Document: http://www.pitonyak.org/AndrewMacro.odt Info: http://www.pitonyak.org/oo.php - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [WWW] home page/website(?) restyle
Am 07/13/2014 09:06 PM, schrieb Emanuele: Marcus (OOo) wrote: Am 07/12/2014 03:27 PM, schrieb Emanuele: As asked by Kay, here it is a new thread. Unfortunately I didn't have much time to volunteer to this (and I'm not sure in the next period either. ah, too bad. :-( Well, I'll try to do something, but sure what. ;) For example, another thing I was considering is the separation of the menu and the breadcrumbs with a menu fixed-top and the breadcrumbs where the are now: http://testing.elkarte.it/testing/ooo/index_fix.html Fixed-top is already good. To get the height of the header reduced and also fixed would be great. hmm... I personally don't like too much very tall fixed headers, they tend to take up a lot of vertical space. of course, I don't meant to fix the current header. First try to reduce its height (row for breadcrumb, space between breadcrum and carousel, top menu, etc. Then if it's still too high fix just some upper parts. Of course our logo has to be put somewhere The logo could go in the fixed menu for example, on the left, though in Yes, a fixed logo would be very visible. that case, I'd reduce the number of entries of the menu itself because at certain resolutions (from 800px wide up to 1024 and maybe something more depending on the size of the logo) the menu would go on two lines, and it doesn't really look good IMO. Hm, I don't see a 2-line menu but the nice hamburger icon at top right that is known from mobile devices. That looks good. Do you know the Web Developer add-on for Firefox? I've discovered that it shows the layout in specific screen resolutions (from 320x480 to 1024x768) for different phone anf tablet devices. Every small resolution has just a horizontal scrollbar and no vertical one. With all resolutions your webpage looks already very well. :-) Mixing the two, what about some moving stuff around while scrolling? http://testing.elkarte.it/ooo/index_scroll.html It's getting better and better with every update. :-) Thanks for this. Are the css compiled somehow as well, or are they in the home.css, ooo.css, etc. files? No, they are plain and will be just applied to the webpage. Okay, well, in my example I collected the bits from the various places into a single file (it's just about 400 lines, so not much to deal with), since most of them were not necessary. It seems I'm getting the grasp of how the website works, now I have just to understand how to enable SSI on my localhost. /me goes read some documentation on the matter... or at least some examples. Marcus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Code snippets from oooforum in AOO website?
Am 07/14/2014 12:49 AM, schrieb Andrew Douglas Pitonyak: On 07/13/2014 04:58 AM, Marcus (OOo) wrote: Am 07/13/2014 03:04 AM, schrieb Andrew Douglas Pitonyak: OK, I finally got off my backside and called The OOoForum owner. Seems that he is alive, well, and very busy and was not even aware that the site was down. He said that he obviously has not been doing a good job and is willing to discuss with the AOO team moving content and/or site. Let me know who that's definetely good news. should have his contact information and I will send it on. Obviously I don't want to post his phone number to this list. You can send private things to our private mailing list as there is no public access: priv...@openoffice.apache.org Thaks for your ongoing effects. Looking forward to get this solved. Marcus Realizing that I am not a member of the private mailing list if I simply send an email to the private mailing list, 1. Will my email go through (given that I am not a member). Sure, of course it depends on the sender and content (no spam ;-) but we know who you are and what you want to reach, so I don't see any problem that your mail will not be moderated to the list. 2. should I have some expectation that after the message is received that someone will act on the message. My primary interest is that we find someone who has the ability / authority or or what ever is required to make this happen. I'm sure that someone will react. That's the goal. ;-) Marcus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Code snippets from oooforum in AOO website?
On 07/13/2014 07:02 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote: I'm sure that someone will react. That's the goal. ;-) OK Marcus, I dropped an email to that list. If you have any pull over there, please do what you can to move this along. I really want this data to be made available again. -- Andrew Pitonyak My Macro Document: http://www.pitonyak.org/AndrewMacro.odt Info: http://www.pitonyak.org/oo.php - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Übersetzungsfrage
Hi Matthias,
Am 12.07.2014 18:07, schrieb Mathias Röllig:
Hallo Regina und Josef!
Ich habe mich von der dev-de abgemeldet und sehe mich nach neuerlichen
Entflammens sinnloser Diskussion nicht geneigt, diesen Müll erneut zu
abonnieren.
In die l10n-Liste habe ich mich noch nicht eingeschrieben, folgt aber noch.
Weiß nicht, ob Absprachen betreffs Übersetzung per PM getätigt werden
sollten.
Wir solten dies scho über eine Liste tätigen. Da es keine spezielle
deutsche Liste gibt, bietet sich nur die dev-de an. Deinen
angesprochenen Müll könnte man mittels eines Strings im Betreff (z.B.
[DE] und einem entsprechenden Filter erledigen.
Die L10N Liste wäre auch eine Möglichkeit, ist aber international
(Englisch) und mit hohem Mailaufkommen und sagt mir deshalb nicht zu.
Ich habe in Pootle einige unübersetzte Stellen in der Calc-Hilfe
übersetzt. Dabei habe ich die deutschen Texte aus OOo (2/3) übernommen.
Über die bin ich auch mal gestolpert, habe sie dann aber aus den Augen
verloren.
Was mich dabei wundert, ist, dass Pootle die Übersetzung mit 100%
anzeigt. Hatte ich mal auf der dev-de angesprochen. Keine Reaktion.
Möglicherweise wäre die L10N besser.
Spricht etwas dagegen (z. B. lizenztechnische, urheberrechtliche
Hindernisse), auch an anderen Stellen wieder auf die alten Texte
umzustellen? Viele Neuübersetzungen sind zu holprig und die englischen
Texte für ältere Funktionen sind ja letztlich Übersetzungen der
deutschen Originaltexte.
AFAIK sind die englsischen Texte Grundlage für die Übersetzung.
Sollte da was nicht stimmen - Issue.
OOo:
=
Beispiel
=DDE(soffice;c:\office\document\daten1.sxc;Tabelle1.A1) liest den
Inhalt der Zelle A1 in der Tabelle1 des OpenOffice.org Calc-Dokuments
Daten1.sxc ein.
=DDE(soffice;c:\office\document\Motto.sxw;Tagesmotto) liefert den
Leitspruch des Tages als Inhalt der Zelle, in der diese Formel steht.
Voraussetzung ist, dass Sie ihn in das OpenOffice.org Writer-Dokument
Motto.sxw in eine Zeile eingetragen haben und diese Zeile die erste
Zeile des benannten Bereichs (OpenOffice.org Writer-Menü Einfügen -
Bereich) Tagesmotto ist. Sobald das Tagesmotto im OpenOffice.org Writer
Dokument geändert wird und es neu gespeichert wurde, steht es in allen
OpenOffice.org Calc Zellen, in denen diese DDE-Verknüpfung definiert
ist, neu zur Verfügung.
Text AOO:
=
Beispiel
=DDE(soffice;c:\office\Dokument\Daten1.sxc;sheet1.A1) liest den
Inhalt der Zelle A1 in Tabelle1 des OpenOffice Calc-Tabellenblatts
Daten1.sxc.
=DDE(soffice;c:\office\Dokument\motto.sxw;Heutiges Motto) gibt ein
Motto in der Zelle zurück, in der diese Formel enthalten ist. Zunächst
geben Sie eine Zeile im Dokument motto.sxw ein, in dem das Motto
enthalten ist. Dann definieren Sie die Zeile als erste Zeile eines
Abschnitts mit der Bezeichnung Heutiges Motto (in OpenOffice Writer
unter Einfügen - Abschnitt). Wenn das Motto im OpenOffice
Writer-Dokument geändert (und gespeichert) wird, wird es in allen
OpenOffice Calc-Zellen aktualisiert, in denen diese DDE-Verknüpfung
definiert ist.
Betreffs Beispiele usw.:
In Pootle findest Du in dem bearbeitenden Ort rechts oben einen Link
('String' + Zahl), der das direkte Anzeigen solcher Stellen in Pootle
ermöglicht.
Auch, wenn es in den englischen Texten noch nicht geändert ist, würde
ich gern in den Beispielen die aktuellen Dateiendungen (*ods, *odt, ...)
verwenden. Einwände?
Meinerseits keine.
BTW, habe auch schon einige Stellen abweichend zum englischen Text, der
offensichtlich falsch ist (Issue erstellt), geändert.
Z.B.: Horizontale Linie statt Horizontales Lineal
Wenn ich etwas übersetzt/geändert habe, muß ich das noch an anderer
Stelle kundtun, damit es in der nächsten Version berücksichtigt wird?
IMO kannst Du diesen Issue nutzen:
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122787
Ob das dann zur 4.1.1 noch klappt, kann ich nicht sagen.
Wie erkenne ich, welcher Stand nach dem ‹granted release blocker›
übernommen wird/wurde?
?
BTW, Antwort geht auch an die dev-de.
Gruß
Josef
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