Re: New committer

2015-08-07 Thread Albino B Neto
2015-08-06 16:50 GMT-03:00 jan i j...@apache.org:
 Welcome to Manik Malhotra who just accepting being openoffice committer.

Congratulations!

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Re: Read Only

2015-08-07 Thread Marcus

Am 08/07/2015 09:43 PM, schrieb Janet Monk:

Since installing Windows 10 all my Open Office files have become “read
only” and can not be edited or saved in Documents and my databases seem to
be blocked. How can I resolve this problem?


thanks for your report. Currently we cannot reproduce reports about 
read-only documents or other problems after the PC was upgraded to or 
installed with Windows 10.


Therefore please can you answer some questions? Maybe it's then easier 
to come to the root cause:


1) What version of Windows did you upgrade from?

2) Is it 32 bit or 64 bit?

3) Which of the three Windows 10 upgrade options did you do?
a) Fresh install
b) Preserve Data and Programs
c) Preserve data only

4) Where were the documents stored that AOO sees as read-only?
a) Local HD
b) USB stick
c) Network drive
d) Cloud storage

5) Do you see this problem with other applications and their
documents, or only with AOO?

Thanks in advance for your help.

Marcus

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Re: New committer

2015-08-07 Thread Marcus

Welcome on board. :-)

Marcus



Am 08/06/2015 09:50 PM, schrieb jan i:

Welcome to Manik Malhotra who just accepting being openoffice committer.


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Re: [NOTICE] Windows build machine setted up

2015-08-07 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 07/08/15 09:50, Michal Hriň wrote:
 Thanks for providing a binary, but I am a bit concerned that a version
 is
 made public, before the PMC have even spoken about being ready to make
 a
 release candidate or started voting on a release candidate.
 
 Is this coordinated with the release manager for 4.1.2 ?
 
 Please do not misunderstand me, I think it is great that work is being
 done, I am just surprised we are ready to go public with 4.1.2 even as
 a
 pre-view.
 
 hrin
 
 OK. Binary is deleted.
 
 This was not coordinated, that was only snapshot .. not release
 candidate. All in all Linux 32bit builds from AOO410 branch are on
 buildbots, so everybody can downlaod it, this is not secret.
 
 Sorry, that I was excited and want to show it publically.

no problem you did a good job and I don't see any problem, you did not
publish anything official and just provided a new fresh binary for
preview and testing if your build env is working as expected and can be
used for a Windows release build. Please continue your tests and keep us
informed. I'm would be happy if I don't have to prepare windows builds.

Juergen



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Re: STATE OF AOO: Overall Bugzilla Activity through July 2015

2015-08-07 Thread Marcus

Am 08/06/2015 09:11 PM, schrieb Dennis E. Hamilton:

Marcus, the queries I did for identification of open issues found only

 issues with no resolution of any kind.  That automatically excluded
 issues with any of DUPLICATE, ..., WON'T FIX, and CLOSED status.

OK


Older open issues, some from long before Apache OpenOffice was

 established, continue to receive discussion and comments and, even in
 2015, sometimes become resolved, including with fixes.  I think it is
 good to hold onto the history simply to be able to reflect that.

Nevertheless I would like to see them closed. It's possible to reopen an 
issue when one has the impression it's worth it.


IMHO Sometimes is not enough to justify to leave billions (may 
feeling) of issue open.



I agree that immediate concerns are best explored by looking more

 deeply into the 2015 issues and discussions to gain better
 perspective.


I suspect the older open issues to look more closely at first are

 ones that are still being discussed, including being duplicated by
 new issue reports.

OK, maybe older issues with newer comments should be left open.

But duplicates are coming even when issues are already closed. People 
setting themselves at CC in the old, closed issue and then open a new 
issue. The summary at the end is not seldom I've the same problem.


Let's cleanup our issue base. For this we don't need a (new) volunteer. 
We can discuss about the criteria and then just close them.


Marcus




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From: Marcus [mailto:marcus.m...@wtnet.de]
Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2015 05:18
To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
Subject: Re: STATE OF AOO: Overall Bugzilla Activity through July 2015

Thanks for generating the numbers. Even when it is no surprise that we
have many unsolved issues, it's always good to know the current values.

In general I agree with Juergen and Roberto, we should focus on the
newer times of AOO.

Suggestion:

To get rid of old issues we need to close all issues that are already in
a state short before closure [*]:

Duplicate, Irreproducible, Obsolete, Not_an_issue, Verified, Wont_fix

As second step we can close all issues that are in status Resolved and
last updated months/years ago.

Then we have a much lower base of open issues and can filter better
about age, importantance and severity. Finally it's then easier to
decide what to do with the remaining open issues.

[*] This makes it necessary to stop all BZ notification mails. Otherwise
we get flooded by billions of mails and get hit by the Infra team all
summer long. ;-)

Marcus


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Re: [NOTICE] Windows build machine setted up

2015-08-07 Thread Andrea Pescetti

jan i wrote:

Is this coordinated with the release manager for 4.1.2 ?


No. It doesn't need to be. Maybe some confusion arose because Michal 
wrote 4.1.2 Early Preview here and somebody may find the name 
confusing, but this is clearly Michal's build of the current state of 
4.1.2 and it is OK (and actually great, Michal!) to have it.


It is like the buildbots output (or anything on people.apache.org): a 
public, totally unofficial, development version. I didn't download it.


I'm collecting information for answering the important part of this 
discussion (digital signing and access to the system), but this requires 
digging into the archives more than I had anticipated so it will take a 
while.


Regards,
  Andrea.

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[NOTICE] Windows build machine setted up

2015-08-07 Thread Michal Hriň
Thanks for providing a binary, but I am a bit concerned that a version
is
made public, before the PMC have even spoken about being ready to make
a
release candidate or started voting on a release candidate.

Is this coordinated with the release manager for 4.1.2 ?

Please do not misunderstand me, I think it is great that work is being
done, I am just surprised we are ready to go public with 4.1.2 even as
a
pre-view.

hrin

OK. Binary is deleted.

This was not coordinated, that was only snapshot .. not release
candidate. All in all Linux 32bit builds from AOO410 branch are on
buildbots, so everybody can downlaod it, this is not secret.

Sorry, that I was excited and want to show it publically.


/hrin



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Re: [NOTICE] Windows build machine setted up

2015-08-07 Thread Marcus

Am 08/07/2015 10:20 AM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti:

jan i wrote:

Is this coordinated with the release manager for 4.1.2 ?


No. It doesn't need to be. Maybe some confusion arose because Michal
wrote 4.1.2 Early Preview here and somebody may find the name
confusing, but this is clearly Michal's build of the current state of
4.1.2 and it is OK (and actually great, Michal!) to have it.


+1

@Michael:
When you make sure that the file name like now always contain Early 
Preview or Early Access or anything far away from a Beta or Release 
version, then it cannot be mixed-up.


So, keep up the good work. :-)

Marcus

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[NOTICE] Windows build machine setted up

2015-08-07 Thread jan i
On Friday, August 7, 2015, Rich Bowen rbo...@rcbowen.com
javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','rbo...@rcbowen.com'); wrote:



 On 08/07/2015 04:00 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

 On 07/08/15 09:50, Michal Hriň wrote:

 Thanks for providing a binary, but I am a bit concerned that a version
 is
 made public, before the PMC have even spoken about being ready to make
 a
 release candidate or started voting on a release candidate.

 Is this coordinated with the release manager for 4.1.2 ?

 Please do not misunderstand me, I think it is great that work is being
 done, I am just surprised we are ready to go public with 4.1.2 even as
 a
 pre-view.

 hrin

 OK. Binary is deleted.

 This was not coordinated, that was only snapshot .. not release
 candidate. All in all Linux 32bit builds from AOO410 branch are on
 buildbots, so everybody can downlaod it, this is not secret.

 Sorry, that I was excited and want to show it publically.


 no problem you did a good job and I don't see any problem, you did not
 publish anything official and just provided a new fresh binary for
 preview and testing if your build env is working as expected and can be
 used for a Windows release build. Please continue your tests and keep us
 informed. I'm would be happy if I don't have to prepare windows builds.


 I'm finding this conversation perplexing, and, no doubt, I lack some
 back-story.

 Surely it's wonderful that someone is producing binaries for folks to try
 out, right? Why would we want them to be deleted, and not publicized?

 Binaries are not (as has been discussed DOZENS of times) official
 releases. And anyone is free to take our code and push out binaries.

 Can someone explain to me what the problem is here? We should be
 encouraging the work that Michal is doing, celebrating it, tweeting it, and
 encouraging everyone and their grandmothers to try out this new build.

 What am I missing?

Since I was the cause, let me explain what I tried to write,

I think the work done is very good, and wrote so, and I do not think
anybody asked for it to be deleted.

My concern was the naming 4.1.2 early preview. Thats sounds official (not
as an apache release, but you know that for AOO the binary is downloaded
factors more than the release source tar ball) and I do not want a
confusion to arise between what the release manager does and what
individual committers does.

I think Michael is doing a very important job with preparing builds for the
upcomming release, his work is known here, so much more reason to be
carefull when naming intermidiate builds. Andrea wrote it more direct, this
is a michael build based on the 4.1.0 branch, this is totally correct and
something a lot of people should test.

So I do not think you missed a lot, but as always it is real difficult to
write something without
getting misinterpreted or misunderstood.

rgds
jan i.


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Re: [NOTICE] Windows build machine setted up

2015-08-07 Thread Marcus

Am 08/07/2015 09:50 AM, schrieb Michal Hriň:

Thanks for providing a binary, but I am a bit concerned that a version
is
made public, before the PMC have even spoken about being ready to make
a
release candidate or started voting on a release candidate.

Is this coordinated with the release manager for 4.1.2 ?

Please do not misunderstand me, I think it is great that work is being
done, I am just surprised we are ready to go public with 4.1.2 even as
a
pre-view.

hrin

OK. Binary is deleted.

This was not coordinated, that was only snapshot .. not release
candidate. All in all Linux 32bit builds from AOO410 branch are on
buildbots, so everybody can downlaod it, this is not secret.

Sorry, that I was excited and want to show it publically.

/hrin


please don't put too much negative interpretion into some answers. Of 
course, it's great that you create builds from the new branch. It's also 
OK to publish this as download offer.


Unfortunately, I haven't seen the file name structure you have used. But 
please make sure that you always add a term like Early Preview, Early 
Access, Dev-Snapshot or something else that cannot be mixed-up with a 
Beta or Release version.


BTW:
Do you still have the access problem with your people@a.o account? If 
so, we (maybe together with Infra) should solve this. Then you can save 
the binaries there to indicate that the work comes from an AOO committer 
and not from somewhere else.


As said before, please keep up the good work. :-)

Marcus

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Re: [NOTICE] Windows build machine setted up

2015-08-07 Thread Rich Bowen



On 08/07/2015 04:00 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

On 07/08/15 09:50, Michal Hriň wrote:

Thanks for providing a binary, but I am a bit concerned that a version
is
made public, before the PMC have even spoken about being ready to make
a
release candidate or started voting on a release candidate.

Is this coordinated with the release manager for 4.1.2 ?

Please do not misunderstand me, I think it is great that work is being
done, I am just surprised we are ready to go public with 4.1.2 even as
a
pre-view.

hrin

OK. Binary is deleted.

This was not coordinated, that was only snapshot .. not release
candidate. All in all Linux 32bit builds from AOO410 branch are on
buildbots, so everybody can downlaod it, this is not secret.

Sorry, that I was excited and want to show it publically.


no problem you did a good job and I don't see any problem, you did not
publish anything official and just provided a new fresh binary for
preview and testing if your build env is working as expected and can be
used for a Windows release build. Please continue your tests and keep us
informed. I'm would be happy if I don't have to prepare windows builds.



I'm finding this conversation perplexing, and, no doubt, I lack some 
back-story.


Surely it's wonderful that someone is producing binaries for folks to 
try out, right? Why would we want them to be deleted, and not publicized?


Binaries are not (as has been discussed DOZENS of times) official 
releases. And anyone is free to take our code and push out binaries.


Can someone explain to me what the problem is here? We should be 
encouraging the work that Michal is doing, celebrating it, tweeting it, 
and encouraging everyone and their grandmothers to try out this new build.


What am I missing?

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Re: [NOTICE] Windows build machine setted up

2015-08-07 Thread Rich Bowen
On Aug 7, 2015 12:04 PM, Marcus marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote:



 Maybe Jan was afraid that a new version could come into the public too
early, others can see it as new release - and then the problem is just
starting: we have to deny this, discussions here and there, and nobody
wants to have this mess.


I would think we would welcome the publicity.

 However, all the problems can be easily solved with coordination and
communication (e.g., offering binaries only from Apache infra systems like
people@a.o, agreeing on file nameing to differentiate clearly from release
builds, etc.).

 Marcus


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Re: 4.1.2_release_blocker requested: [Issue 126447] When using LanguageTools, toggling the checkbox check grammar in the spell checker removes content

2015-08-07 Thread Marcus

@Andrea:
As it is in your area to finally decide on issues for 4.1.2, what do you 
think?


Thanks

Marcus



Am 08/06/2015 01:20 PM, schrieb bugzi...@apache.org:

Marcusmar...@apache.org  has asked  for 4.1.2_release_blocker:
Issue 126447: When using LanguageTools, toggling the checkbox check grammar
in the spell checker removes content
https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=126447



--- Comment #1 from Marcusmar...@apache.org  ---
@Stefan: Thanks for the patch. Seems to be an easy fix.

@All: I suggest to accept this issue and fix for the 4.1.2 release.

Reasons:
- Preventing data loss
- Easy fix
- Low risk
- Support the work from AOO contributors


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Re: Open office FAQ

2015-08-07 Thread Kay Schenk


On 08/06/2015 07:31 AM, Ivanka Skakun wrote:
 Hello  sirs,
 
 First of all, thank you for developing such a useful Software. Very good
 features and easy in use.
 
 Due to my volunteering program I translate tutorials, faq pages into
 Russian and would be really glad to translate your FAQ page
 https://www.openoffice.org/faq.html as well. I hope it will help Russian
 users.
 
 Please let me know if it is possible.
 
 Regards,
 
 Ivanka

Hello Ivanka and thanks for your nice offer!

You can download the English version of this page from:

http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/faq.html?revision=1647456view=markup

to use for your translation. Once you are done, it is best to file an
issue through Bugzilla (https://bz.apache.org/ooo/) and add your
translation as an attachment to an issue. If you need help with this
part, please ask on this list.

The Russian site -- http://www.openoffice.org/ru/

seems to be organized in the new format using our standard website
template. We could link your translated FAQ in from the /why area I
think. This is not part of our standard template but probably should be.


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Re: [NOTICE] Windows build machine setted up

2015-08-07 Thread Marcus

Am 08/07/2015 05:22 PM, schrieb Rich Bowen:



On 08/07/2015 04:00 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

On 07/08/15 09:50, Michal Hriň wrote:

Thanks for providing a binary, but I am a bit concerned that a version
is
made public, before the PMC have even spoken about being ready to make
a
release candidate or started voting on a release candidate.

Is this coordinated with the release manager for 4.1.2 ?

Please do not misunderstand me, I think it is great that work is being
done, I am just surprised we are ready to go public with 4.1.2 even as
a
pre-view.

hrin

OK. Binary is deleted.

This was not coordinated, that was only snapshot .. not release
candidate. All in all Linux 32bit builds from AOO410 branch are on
buildbots, so everybody can downlaod it, this is not secret.

Sorry, that I was excited and want to show it publically.


no problem you did a good job and I don't see any problem, you did not
publish anything official and just provided a new fresh binary for
preview and testing if your build env is working as expected and can be
used for a Windows release build. Please continue your tests and keep us
informed. I'm would be happy if I don't have to prepare windows builds.



I'm finding this conversation perplexing, and, no doubt, I lack some
back-story.

Surely it's wonderful that someone is producing binaries for folks to
try out, right? Why would we want them to be deleted, and not publicized?


absolutely


Binaries are not (as has been discussed DOZENS of times) official
releases. And anyone is free to take our code and push out binaries.


Of course, the official truth is in the source code - this applies also 
for AOO. But please try to imagine that the AOO users think different. 
Just a few percent are interested in the source code. But the very most 
trust in the binaries as nearly no end-user is building from the source code



Can someone explain to me what the problem is here? We should be
encouraging the work that Michal is doing, celebrating it, tweeting it,
and encouraging everyone and their grandmothers to try out this new build.

What am I missing?


Maybe Jan was afraid that a new version could come into the public too 
early, others can see it as new release - and then the problem is just 
starting: we have to deny this, discussions here and there, and nobody 
wants to have this mess.


However, all the problems can be easily solved with coordination and 
communication (e.g., offering binaries only from Apache infra systems 
like people@a.o, agreeing on file nameing to differentiate clearly from 
release builds, etc.).


Marcus

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Read Only

2015-08-07 Thread Janet Monk
Since installing Windows 10 all my Open Office files have become “read
only” and can not be edited or saved in Documents and my databases seem to
be blocked. How can I resolve this problem?

Regards/Janet Monk


Re: Read Only

2015-08-07 Thread Abhinav Tripathi
Hi all,
I have been a silent reader of all the mails on this list. I have been
reading these read only errors in past few days and I wanted to share my
experience with windows.
When I had windows 8 then every now and then some of my files which were in
C drive turned to read only. After that I started using other drives only
and the problem subsided.
After upgrading that to windows 8.1, again many of my files in C changed to
read only.
These read only caused some applications to crash when trying to open in
write mode without administrator rights.
The cure was to change the properties of individual files and give right to
current user also.
.
By all this, I just wanted to make the point that turning files into read
only is perhaps an inherent windows problem and not of any other
application as AOO.
.
Regards,
Abhinav


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