Re: Windows Subsystem for Linux

[Keith N. McKenna]

On 10/14/2018 7:49 PM, Keith N. McKenna wrote:
> Greetings all;
> 
> Was wondering in anyone had experience with the Windows Subsystem for
> Linux. Was thinking it might be an easy way to install a distro to be
> able to run AOO for to be able to confirm bugs on more than just Windows.
> 
> Thanks in Advance
> Keith
> 

Found some more info online and looks like it is not going to be able to
do what I want. Appears that it is ONLY meant for being able to use
command line apps via a bash shell.

Regards
Keith



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RE: Windows Subsystem for Linux

[Howard Cary Morris]

No, but have run Windows under a Mac system.

Howard

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From: Keith N. McKenna
Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2018 6:50 PM
To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
Subject: Windows Subsystem for Linux

Greetings all;

Was wondering in anyone had experience with the Windows Subsystem for
Linux. Was thinking it might be an easy way to install a distro to be
able to run AOO for to be able to confirm bugs on more than just Windows.

Thanks in Advance
Keith

Windows Subsystem for Linux

[Keith N. McKenna]

Greetings all;

Was wondering in anyone had experience with the Windows Subsystem for
Linux. Was thinking it might be an easy way to install a distro to be
able to run AOO for to be able to confirm bugs on more than just Windows.

Thanks in Advance
Keith



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Re: Update for Step by Step Build Guide for Ubuntu?

[Pedro Lino]

Hi Keith


> Thanks for taking on this experiment. I have created a 16.04 stub in the
> step by step building guide. I am more than willing to help with adding
> information to the guide.
> 


Thanks!

I'm waiting on Peter Kovac's feedback to move forward.

If anyone else has some pointers on how to solve the dependencies problem, 
please let me know.


Regards,

Pedro

Re: Update for Step by Step Build Guide for Ubuntu?

[Keith N. McKenna]

On 10/13/2018 4:20 PM, Pedro Lino wrote:
> Hi Matthias, all
> 
> 
> 
>> On October 13, 2018 at 8:06 PM Matthias Seidel > mailto:matthias.sei...@hamburg.de > wrote:
>>
>>
>> But maybe we should start with 16.04? That is supported until 2021.
>> I think I managed to build, but ran out of disk space in my VM...
>>
> 
> 
> I'm running Ubuntu 16.04.5 LTS  x86_64
> 
> I could try to build on Linux. My SSD has 76GB free. Is this space enough?
> 
> How long will it take to build AOO on a Intel® Core™ i5-2520M CPU @ 2.50GHz × 
> 4 with 7,7 GiB RAM?
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Pedro
> 
Hi Pedro,

Thanks for taking on this experiment. I have created a 16.04 stub in the
step by step building guide. I am more than willing to help with adding
information to the guide.

Regards
Keith




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Re: Chat Channel (was [Discussion] Program for Sandro)

[Peter kovacs]

I am online now too.  Thanks Gavin.

Am 14. Oktober 2018 13:21:04 MESZ schrieb Matthias Seidel 
:
>Hi Gavin,
>
>Am 14.10.2018 um 11:46 schrieb Gavin McDonald:
>> Install the Slack app, or via the web goto the-asf.slack.com you will
>find
>> an #openoffice slack channel ready and waiting, been there quite some
>time
>> unused.
>
>Thank you for the pointer, I didn't know of it.
>
>>
>> With HipChat going away, Slack is the option to use now.
>>
>> I am there, lets see you all there too!
>
>I'm in! ;-)
>
>Matthias
>
>>
>> HTH
>>
>> Gav...
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 14, 2018 at 2:12 AM Howard Cary Morris <
>> howard_cary_mor...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I can create a chat room to share or you can use another service to
>do the
>>> same thing
>>> Howard
>>>
>>> From: sandro
>>> Sent: Friday, October 12, 2018 6:59 PM
>>> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
>>> Subject: Re: Chat Channel (was [Discussion] Program for Sandro)
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I feel that the chat channel (real time chat) can really improve our
>>> experience to more creativity, we could be able to communicate and
>interact
>>> in real time, certainly our productivity would soar, it would lead
>us to
>>> greater satisfaction.
>>>
>>> Has anyone felt the same way about that idea? What is your opinion?
>>>
>>> When I first gave the idea I was thinking about a communication
>between me
>>> and Peter, but as other guys liked that idea then I feel it could be
>an
>>> amazing experience to all of us.
>>>
>>> Glad,
>>> Sandro Suzart
>>>
>>> 
>>> De: Peter Kovacs 
>>> Enviado: segunda-feira, 8 de outubro de 2018 04:11
>>> Para: dev@openoffice.apache.org
>>> Assunto: Chat Channel (was [Discussion] Program for Sandro)
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I am traveling a lot. The classic irc channel never worked for me,
>>> because I get disconnects all the time.
>>>
>>> So currently from my perspective we could set something up in
>threema,
>>> slack or discord for real time chat.
>>>
>>> I am also open for other mobile capable options. Just keep in mind
>it
>>> has to work with a shitty german mobile connection.
>>>
>>> If anyone knows a solution for IRC I would gladly participate in a
>>> channel there.
>>>
>>>
>>> All the best
>>>
>>> Peter
>>>
>>> On 9/26/18 3:13 AM, sandro wrote:
 Dear Peter

 It is an amazing idea, very nice. Maybe one of those kind services
>(
>>> Dropbox or Google) have a nice and amazing chat service so we could
>>> communicate in real time while working. It is nice to interact and
>it is
>>> glad, certainly it will drive us to joy.
 I would like to try Dropbox and I would like to know if this
>service has
>>> means of communication in real time, like a chat?
 Glad,
 Sandro Suzart


 
 De: Peter Kovacs 
 Enviado: domingo, 23 de setembro de 2018 12:29
 Para: dev@openoffice.apache.org
 Assunto: Re: [Discussion] Program for Sandro

 Dear Sandro,

 Glad to read about your determination. :) Lets get you doing
>something.

 You can send it directly to my address if you like. I personally
>would
 appreciate if we could store it somewhere more cloudy.

 How about google drive or Dropbox. They offer free cloud space. And
>you
 can setup the space easy.


 Yea it is really cool that we are a cloud Project. I think it is
>great
 that you are with us. Maybe we can make OpenOffice a bit more
>Cloudy. ;)

 All the best

 Peter

 On 9/22/18 7:32 PM, sandro wrote:
> Dear Peter,
>
> It is always amazing to show my commitment and passion for this
>>> project, I feel that it is so good to build together that it
>certainly
>>> drives all of us to happiness.
> I just have been looking for sending a work plan to you, as I told
>in
>>> my last message. I will ask an user for the wiki project.
> Well, I have the wish and I feel that I am plenty able to go on
>with
>>> long term perspective with this volunteering. Because since the time
>>> schedule is flexible and since I can work from anywhere (school,
>park, home
>>> ...) there is probably no interference in the activity and I think
>that
>>> nothing will prevent me from collaborate. If a have to move to
>another
>>> city, or if I work more in another project, I can always
>collaborate; the
>>> only thing that would stop would be internet connection ( if I do
>not have
>>> it at home) but it is easy to find free wifi anywhere, there are
>libraries
>>> and other buildings that offer internet access for free and also a
>computer
>>> to access.
> So I will always be here, I just was doing the work plan while
>handling
>>> other tasks (such as a university test to September, 24. It is a
>calculus
>>> test, macroeconomics test and a management test in the same week...
>rs). I
>>> plan to always collaborate with you, always hold hands.
> 

Re: svn commit: r1036291 - in /websites/staging/ooo-site/trunk: cgi-bin/ content/ content/download/download.js

[Marcus]

Am 14.10.2018 um 17:51 schrieb Matthias Seidel:

I am not sure why this had to be added again because I did it already on
30.12.2017...
Actually it is working right now on the download page.


OK, I haven't seen this.

Marcus




Am 14.10.2018 um 17:30 schrieb build...@apache.org:

Author: buildbot
Date: Sun Oct 14 15:30:28 2018
New Revision: 1036291

Log:
Staging update by buildbot for ooo-site

Modified:
 websites/staging/ooo-site/trunk/cgi-bin/   (props changed)
 websites/staging/ooo-site/trunk/content/   (props changed)
 websites/staging/ooo-site/trunk/content/download/download.js

Propchange: websites/staging/ooo-site/trunk/cgi-bin/
--
--- cms:source-revision (original)
+++ cms:source-revision Sun Oct 14 15:30:28 2018
@@ -1 +1 @@
-1843842
+1843843

Propchange: websites/staging/ooo-site/trunk/content/
--
--- cms:source-revision (original)
+++ cms:source-revision Sun Oct 14 15:30:28 2018
@@ -1 +1 @@
-1843842
+1843843

Modified: websites/staging/ooo-site/trunk/content/download/download.js
==
--- websites/staging/ooo-site/trunk/content/download/download.js (original)
+++ websites/staging/ooo-site/trunk/content/download/download.js Sun Oct 14 
15:30:28 2018
@@ -690,7 +690,7 @@ DL.checkForLinkExceptions = function() {
}
  
  	// If version is '4.1.0' (or newer) and platform is 'Mac OS X <= 10.6', show the none-availability to the user.

-   if( ( DL.VERSION_SEL === "4.1.4" || DL.VERSION_SEL === "4.1.3" || DL.VERSION_SEL === "4.1.2" || 
DL.VERSION_SEL === "4.1.1" || DL.VERSION_SEL === "4.1.0" ) && DL.PLATFORM === "mac32" ) {
+   if( ( DL.VERSION_SEL === "4.1.5" || DL.VERSION_SEL === "4.1.4" || DL.VERSION_SEL === "4.1.3" || DL.VERSION_SEL === 
"4.1.2" || DL.VERSION_SEL === "4.1.1" || DL.VERSION_SEL === "4.1.0" ) && DL.PLATFORM === "mac32" ) {
// Show an error message that the chosen items do not lead to a 
download.
  
  		// If a customized string is not available in the "msg_prop_l10n_XX.js" file.



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Re: Help building AOO416 on Ubuntu 16.04

[Peter Kovacs]

I have been able to build OpenOffice with latest gcc . That has been a while go 
before my Laptop migration.
You have to set the fix to the right standard and you might have to set some 
behaviour flags.
I check for my config and post it. 

Am 14. Oktober 2018 14:49:26 MESZ schrieb Matthias Seidel 
:
>Hi Pedro,
>
>Am 14.10.2018 um 12:47 schrieb Pedro Lino:
>> Hi Matthias
>>
>>> On October 14, 2018 at 11:34 AM Matthias Seidel
>mailto:matthias.sei...@hamburg.de > wrote:
>>>
>>> I think I managed it with these instructions. But ignored most
>of the
>>> warnings, as they are fixed already (either in Ubuntu or in AOO
>branch).
>>>
>> Ok. So any instructions on how to solve the dependencies problems I
>run into?
>
>I still have a 16.04 VM, so I could try to set up an environment...
>But I *think* I just never downgraded g++/gcc but took the provided
>one.
>
>Regards,
>   Matthias
>
>>
>>
>>> > > Yes, I am aware of that. But it was suggested in this
>mailing list that since 14.04 is EOL and 16.04 will be supported until
>2021, this should be the next move.
 > 14.04 is still supported until 2019 (5 years for an LTS).
>>> But 16.04 would be the next step.
>>>
>> Thank you for the correction.
>>
>> I also manage a laptop running 18.04 so I can also try it at a later
>stage but I prefer to learn how to find/solve problems in my daily
>usage 16.04 machine.
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Pedro
>>

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Re: svn commit: r1036291 - in /websites/staging/ooo-site/trunk: cgi-bin/ content/ content/download/download.js

[Matthias Seidel]

Hi Marcus,

I am not sure why this had to be added again because I did it already on
30.12.2017...
Actually it is working right now on the download page.

Did you use the CMS?

Regards,

   Matthias


Am 14.10.2018 um 17:30 schrieb build...@apache.org:
> Author: buildbot
> Date: Sun Oct 14 15:30:28 2018
> New Revision: 1036291
>
> Log:
> Staging update by buildbot for ooo-site
>
> Modified:
> websites/staging/ooo-site/trunk/cgi-bin/   (props changed)
> websites/staging/ooo-site/trunk/content/   (props changed)
> websites/staging/ooo-site/trunk/content/download/download.js
>
> Propchange: websites/staging/ooo-site/trunk/cgi-bin/
> --
> --- cms:source-revision (original)
> +++ cms:source-revision Sun Oct 14 15:30:28 2018
> @@ -1 +1 @@
> -1843842
> +1843843
>
> Propchange: websites/staging/ooo-site/trunk/content/
> --
> --- cms:source-revision (original)
> +++ cms:source-revision Sun Oct 14 15:30:28 2018
> @@ -1 +1 @@
> -1843842
> +1843843
>
> Modified: websites/staging/ooo-site/trunk/content/download/download.js
> ==
> --- websites/staging/ooo-site/trunk/content/download/download.js (original)
> +++ websites/staging/ooo-site/trunk/content/download/download.js Sun Oct 14 
> 15:30:28 2018
> @@ -690,7 +690,7 @@ DL.checkForLinkExceptions = function() {
>   }
>  
>   // If version is '4.1.0' (or newer) and platform is 'Mac OS X <= 10.6', 
> show the none-availability to the user.
> - if( ( DL.VERSION_SEL === "4.1.4" || DL.VERSION_SEL === "4.1.3" || 
> DL.VERSION_SEL === "4.1.2" || DL.VERSION_SEL === "4.1.1" || DL.VERSION_SEL 
> === "4.1.0" ) && DL.PLATFORM === "mac32" ) {
> + if( ( DL.VERSION_SEL === "4.1.5" || DL.VERSION_SEL === "4.1.4" || 
> DL.VERSION_SEL === "4.1.3" || DL.VERSION_SEL === "4.1.2" || DL.VERSION_SEL 
> === "4.1.1" || DL.VERSION_SEL === "4.1.0" ) && DL.PLATFORM === "mac32" ) {
>   // Show an error message that the chosen items do not lead to a 
> download.
>  
>   // If a customized string is not available in the 
> "msg_prop_l10n_XX.js" file.
>
>
>




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Re: Wrong distro detected?

[Marcus]

Am 10.09.2018 um 23:52 schrieb Marcus:

Am 10.09.2018 um 23:29 schrieb Matthias Seidel:

Am 10.09.2018 um 23:19 schrieb Marcus:

Am 10.09.2018 um 23:10 schrieb Matthias Seidel:

Am 10.09.2018 um 22:32 schrieb Marcus:

Am 06.09.2018 um 22:06 schrieb Marcus:

Am 06.09.2018 um 17:37 schrieb Matthias Seidel:

Am 05.09.2018 um 21:37 schrieb Marcus:

Am 02.09.2018 um 23:20 schrieb Pedro Lino:

On September 2, 2018 at 9:42 PM Rory O'Farrell 
wrote:



It may be useful to know that the terminal command
inxi -S

will display the distro name. I am sure there are other
commands to
do so of which I am not aware.


inxi is not included in Debian or Ubuntu. lsb_release -a works
But the browser is not allowed to run terminal commands for 
obvious

reasons ;)

I have not yet (not looked very hard) found any command that will
disclose if the distro needs RPM or DEB files


We would have to create a table with such correspondence. But the
problem remains: there is no way to get information on the Distro
(except for Ubuntu's Firefox)

The only solution seems to be Andrea's suggestion about adding
information when Linux is detected (this already happens when
Android
is detected so the mechanism is already there)


just an additional info instead of a (mandatory) choise is indeed
worth to think twice. I'll do it on the weekend and play a bit with
the download scripting.


When you are at it... ;-)

Did you have a chance to look at the needed changes for the updated
Release Policy?
https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127530


yes, I know.

However, this is more complex as we have a dependency with versions:

If version == 4.1.5 or older,
then offer a link with the MD5 file.

If version == 4.1.6 or newer,
then do not offer a link .

I've to check how and where to insert this version check.

But let's see ;-)

Thanks for the hint.


OK, also this is ready for testing. Let's wait for the CMS.


Great!
How do you handle SHA? I understand that we should offer SHA512?


SHA256 is unchanged and shown as before.

Is the SHA512 hash data meanwhile integrated into the build process?
As long as it is not I cannot add this to the download site. But if
so, it's very easy to add it.


Generating hash data is done manually after the build process, but we
have a scripts for it:
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/devtools/release-scripts/


great, then the download scripting is awaiting the new hash data.


after the CMS is working again, I've now committed (but not yet 
published !) my changes to ask for feeback:


1) For versions until 4.1.5 (our current one) links for MD5 hash values 
are still offered but no longer for newer versions.


2) When Linux is choosen as platform, a new link "RPM vs. DEB = What to 
choose?" is offered. When hovering with the mouse a text is shown in 
which Linux distributions RPM and DEB packages are used.


Especially for topic #2, does it hit the spot?

Thanks

Marcus


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Re: Building trunk with java disabled

[Damjan Jovanovic]

On Sun, Oct 14, 2018 at 3:48 PM Matthias Seidel 
wrote:

> Hi Yuri,
>
> Am 12.10.2018 um 16:29 schrieb Yuri Dario:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I already built the trunk on OS/2 manually skipping the java stuffs
> > (our latest JVM is java 6).
> >
> > So yesterday I configured the build with --without-java: while
> > configure correctly disabled java, I discovered that gbuild still
> > tries to build java-related projects
> >
> > Is this correct or I still have some misconfigured file left from
> > previous build?
>
> My understanding is that --without-java should disable Java completely.
> So I suspect a glitch in our gbuild migration.
>
> Can you name an affected module? Damjan should know best.
>
>
Java and Ant are now mandatory components.

Regards
Damjan

Re: Building trunk with java disabled

[Matthias Seidel]

Hi Yuri,

Am 12.10.2018 um 16:29 schrieb Yuri Dario:
> Hi,
>
> I already built the trunk on OS/2 manually skipping the java stuffs 
> (our latest JVM is java 6).
>
> So yesterday I configured the build with --without-java: while 
> configure correctly disabled java, I discovered that gbuild still 
> tries to build java-related projects
>
> Is this correct or I still have some misconfigured file left from 
> previous build?

My understanding is that --without-java should disable Java completely.
So I suspect a glitch in our gbuild migration.

Can you name an affected module? Damjan should know best.

BTW: Did you already try branch416 for OS/2? ;-)

Regards,
   Matthias

>
> thanks
>
>




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Re: Help building AOO416 on Ubuntu 16.04

[Matthias Seidel]

Hi Pedro,

Am 14.10.2018 um 12:47 schrieb Pedro Lino:
> Hi Matthias
>
>> On October 14, 2018 at 11:34 AM Matthias Seidel > mailto:matthias.sei...@hamburg.de > wrote:
>>
>> I think I managed it with these instructions. But ignored most of the
>> warnings, as they are fixed already (either in Ubuntu or in AOO branch).
>>
> Ok. So any instructions on how to solve the dependencies problems I run into?

I still have a 16.04 VM, so I could try to set up an environment...
But I *think* I just never downgraded g++/gcc but took the provided one.

Regards,
   Matthias

>
>
>> > > Yes, I am aware of that. But it was suggested in this mailing 
>> list that since 14.04 is EOL and 16.04 will be supported until 2021, this 
>> should be the next move.
>>> > 14.04 is still supported until 2019 (5 years for an LTS).
>> But 16.04 would be the next step.
>>
> Thank you for the correction.
>
> I also manage a laptop running 18.04 so I can also try it at a later stage 
> but I prefer to learn how to find/solve problems in my daily usage 16.04 
> machine.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Pedro
>




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Re: Chat Channel (was [Discussion] Program for Sandro)

[Matthias Seidel]

Hi Gavin,

Am 14.10.2018 um 11:46 schrieb Gavin McDonald:
> Install the Slack app, or via the web goto the-asf.slack.com you will find
> an #openoffice slack channel ready and waiting, been there quite some time
> unused.

Thank you for the pointer, I didn't know of it.

>
> With HipChat going away, Slack is the option to use now.
>
> I am there, lets see you all there too!

I'm in! ;-)

Matthias

>
> HTH
>
> Gav...
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 14, 2018 at 2:12 AM Howard Cary Morris <
> howard_cary_mor...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I can create a chat room to share or you can use another service to do the
>> same thing
>> Howard
>>
>> From: sandro
>> Sent: Friday, October 12, 2018 6:59 PM
>> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: Chat Channel (was [Discussion] Program for Sandro)
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I feel that the chat channel (real time chat) can really improve our
>> experience to more creativity, we could be able to communicate and interact
>> in real time, certainly our productivity would soar, it would lead us to
>> greater satisfaction.
>>
>> Has anyone felt the same way about that idea? What is your opinion?
>>
>> When I first gave the idea I was thinking about a communication between me
>> and Peter, but as other guys liked that idea then I feel it could be an
>> amazing experience to all of us.
>>
>> Glad,
>> Sandro Suzart
>>
>> 
>> De: Peter Kovacs 
>> Enviado: segunda-feira, 8 de outubro de 2018 04:11
>> Para: dev@openoffice.apache.org
>> Assunto: Chat Channel (was [Discussion] Program for Sandro)
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I am traveling a lot. The classic irc channel never worked for me,
>> because I get disconnects all the time.
>>
>> So currently from my perspective we could set something up in threema,
>> slack or discord for real time chat.
>>
>> I am also open for other mobile capable options. Just keep in mind it
>> has to work with a shitty german mobile connection.
>>
>> If anyone knows a solution for IRC I would gladly participate in a
>> channel there.
>>
>>
>> All the best
>>
>> Peter
>>
>> On 9/26/18 3:13 AM, sandro wrote:
>>> Dear Peter
>>>
>>> It is an amazing idea, very nice. Maybe one of those kind services (
>> Dropbox or Google) have a nice and amazing chat service so we could
>> communicate in real time while working. It is nice to interact and it is
>> glad, certainly it will drive us to joy.
>>> I would like to try Dropbox and I would like to know if this service has
>> means of communication in real time, like a chat?
>>> Glad,
>>> Sandro Suzart
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>> De: Peter Kovacs 
>>> Enviado: domingo, 23 de setembro de 2018 12:29
>>> Para: dev@openoffice.apache.org
>>> Assunto: Re: [Discussion] Program for Sandro
>>>
>>> Dear Sandro,
>>>
>>> Glad to read about your determination. :) Lets get you doing something.
>>>
>>> You can send it directly to my address if you like. I personally would
>>> appreciate if we could store it somewhere more cloudy.
>>>
>>> How about google drive or Dropbox. They offer free cloud space. And you
>>> can setup the space easy.
>>>
>>>
>>> Yea it is really cool that we are a cloud Project. I think it is great
>>> that you are with us. Maybe we can make OpenOffice a bit more Cloudy. ;)
>>>
>>> All the best
>>>
>>> Peter
>>>
>>> On 9/22/18 7:32 PM, sandro wrote:
 Dear Peter,

 It is always amazing to show my commitment and passion for this
>> project, I feel that it is so good to build together that it certainly
>> drives all of us to happiness.
 I just have been looking for sending a work plan to you, as I told in
>> my last message. I will ask an user for the wiki project.
 Well, I have the wish and I feel that I am plenty able to go on with
>> long term perspective with this volunteering. Because since the time
>> schedule is flexible and since I can work from anywhere (school, park, home
>> ...) there is probably no interference in the activity and I think that
>> nothing will prevent me from collaborate. If a have to move to another
>> city, or if I work more in another project, I can always collaborate; the
>> only thing that would stop would be internet connection ( if I do not have
>> it at home) but it is easy to find free wifi anywhere, there are libraries
>> and other buildings that offer internet access for free and also a computer
>> to access.
 So I will always be here, I just was doing the work plan while handling
>> other tasks (such as a university test to September, 24. It is a calculus
>> test, macroeconomics test and a management test in the same week... rs). I
>> plan to always collaborate with you, always hold hands.
 Glad,
 Sandro Suzart


 
 De: Peter Kovacs 
 Enviado: sábado, 22 de setembro de 2018 01:04
 Para: dev@openoffice.apache.org
 Assunto: Re: [Discussion] Program for Sandro

 Dear,

 Have you 

Re: Help building AOO416 on Ubuntu 16.04

[Pedro Lino]

> JDK 8 is OK as long as you use --disable-odk in configure.
> Hopefully we can get a patch into 4.1.6 that will allow us to build ODK
> with Java 8
> 


Excellent! Thank you for confirming.

-disable-odk is included in the Step-by-step guide so that is what I will be 
using


Regards,

Pedro

Re: Help building AOO416 on Ubuntu 16.04

[Pedro Lino]

Hi Matthias

> On October 14, 2018 at 11:34 AM Matthias Seidel  mailto:matthias.sei...@hamburg.de > wrote:
> 
> I think I managed it with these instructions. But ignored most of the
> warnings, as they are fixed already (either in Ubuntu or in AOO branch).
> 

Ok. So any instructions on how to solve the dependencies problems I run into?


> 
> > > Yes, I am aware of that. But it was suggested in this mailing 
> list that since 14.04 is EOL and 16.04 will be supported until 2021, this 
> should be the next move.
> > 
> > > 14.04 is still supported until 2019 (5 years for an LTS).
> But 16.04 would be the next step.
> 

Thank you for the correction.

I also manage a laptop running 18.04 so I can also try it at a later stage but 
I prefer to learn how to find/solve problems in my daily usage 16.04 machine.


Regards,

Pedro

Re: Help building AOO416 on Ubuntu 16.04

[Matthias Seidel]

Hi Pedro,

Am 14.10.2018 um 11:25 schrieb Pedro Lino:
> Hi all
>
>
> I have come across the first two problems:
>
>
> 1) E: Package 'openjdk-7-jdk' has no installation candidate
>
> I installed openjdk-8 instead

JDK 8 is OK as long as you use --disable-odk in configure.
Hopefully we can get a patch into 4.1.6 that will allow us to build ODK
with Java 8.

Regards,
   Matthias

>
>
> 2) The following packages have unmet dependencies:
> libgstreamer-ocaml : Depends: ocaml-base-nox-4.02.3
> Conflicts: libgstreamer-ocaml:i386 but 0.2.0-2build2 is to be installed
> libgstreamer-ocaml:i386 : Conflicts: libgstreamer-ocaml but 0.2.0-2build2 is 
> to be installed
> libgstreamer-ocaml-dev : Depends: ocaml-nox-4.02.3
> Depends: ocaml-findlib but it is not going to be installed
> Conflicts: libgstreamer-ocaml-dev:i386 but 0.2.0-2build2 is to be installed
> libgstreamer-ocaml-dev:i386 : Depends: ocaml-nox-4.02.3:i386
> Depends: libgstreamer1.0-dev:i386 but it is not going to be installed
> Depends: libgstreamer-plugins-base1.0-dev:i386 but it is not going to be 
> installed
> Conflicts: libgstreamer-ocaml-dev but 0.2.0-2build2 is to be installed
> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
>
>
> Help?
>
> Is someone going to be online today on IRC or available for direct email? I 
> think these newbie problems don't belong in the dev mailing list.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Pedro
>




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Re: Help building AOO416 on Ubuntu 16.04

[Matthias Seidel]

Hi Pedro,

Am 14.10.2018 um 12:21 schrieb Pedro Lino:
> Hi Gavin
>
>
>> What build instructions have you been following so far?
>>
>
> https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO/Step_by_step#Ubuntu_12.04
>
> but checking the 14.04 changes if needed

I think I managed it with these instructions. But ignored most of the
warnings, as they are fixed already (either in Ubuntu or in AOO branch).

>
>
>> > > Is someone going to be online today on IRC or available 
>> for direct email? I think these newbie problems don't belong in the dev 
>> mailing list.
>>> > 
>> 16.04 isnt in our build systems yet for openoffice, and so only a 
>> handful of developers have been trying it so far.
>> With that said, I believe this list is the right place for such 
>> questions so that those that follow can see the discussions in the
>> archives.
>>
> Yes, I am aware of that. But it was suggested in this mailing list that since 
> 14.04 is EOL and 16.04 will be supported until 2021, this should be the next 
> move.

14.04 is still supported until 2019 (5 years for an LTS).
But 16.04 would be the next step.

Regards,
   Matthias

>
> Since I'm running 16.04 I volunteered to give it a run (my first time 
> building binaries) and check what are the differences/obstacles compared to 
> what is described for 12.04 and 14.04
>
> If the people on the list are up to receiving newbie questions, I don't have 
> any problem in showing publicly my ignorance :)
>
>
> Best,
>
> Pedro
>




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Re: Help building AOO416 on Ubuntu 16.04

[Pedro Lino]

Hi Gavin


> What build instructions have you been following so far?
> 


https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO/Step_by_step#Ubuntu_12.04

but checking the 14.04 changes if needed


> 
> > > Is someone going to be online today on IRC or available 
> for direct email? I think these newbie problems don't belong in the dev 
> mailing list.
> > 
> > > 
> 16.04 isnt in our build systems yet for openoffice, and so only a handful 
> of developers have been trying it so far.
> With that said, I believe this list is the right place for such questions 
> so that those that follow can see the discussions in the
> archives.
> 

Yes, I am aware of that. But it was suggested in this mailing list that since 
14.04 is EOL and 16.04 will be supported until 2021, this should be the next 
move.

Since I'm running 16.04 I volunteered to give it a run (my first time building 
binaries) and check what are the differences/obstacles compared to what is 
described for 12.04 and 14.04

If the people on the list are up to receiving newbie questions, I don't have 
any problem in showing publicly my ignorance :)


Best,

Pedro

Re: MSVC Update

[Gavin McDonald]

Please consider filing an INFRA ticket with any new software versions that
might be needed on the Buildbots.
Also eqnuire about an extra 16.04 buildbot if needed.

Gav...


On Sat, Oct 13, 2018 at 9:31 PM Matthias Seidel 
wrote:

> Hello George,
>
> Am 10.10.2018 um 13:23 schrieb George Karalis:
> > Hello,
> >
> > This is an update of the current MSVC task. So far I had success in
> integrating MSVC 2015
> > to the project but it requires Windows SDK 8.1 or higher in order to
> work correctly. I ‘ve
> > found that Microsoft has reworked the folder structure of this SDK so it
> requires additional
> > work to be done in the configure.ac, in order to find the correct
> compilers and tools. Same
> > thing at the Windows 10 SDK, which has a more different structure.
>
> Thank you for your work!
> Windows is the main platform for our users with about 85% of downloads.
> Still is has been a bit neglected...
> A newer SDK/compiler will certainly help us on our way to a 64-bit version.
>
> >
> > Another thing that requires additional work is the integration of MSVC
> 2017. I was able to
> > find the installation from the registry, using oowintool, copy the
> required dll etc., but in Visual
> > Studio 2017 the folder structure is completely different, so changes are
> also needed at
> > configure.ac, for —with-cl-home to work correctly.
> >
> > So that leaves me with the following notes:
> >
> > (1) Integrate MSVC 2010 with Windows 7.1 SDK, both are available from
> Microsoft, no
> >  additional work is needed at the configure level, and update the
> project to MSBuild
> >  (Easy)
>
> This is the SDK we are talking about?
> https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=8279
>
> As a non developer I would say this should be our first step.
>
> >
> > (2) Integrate MSVC 2017 with Windows 10 SDK, requires more work, but it
> ’s the main
> >  goal.
> >
> > I ‘m thinking of doing an incremental integration. Work on option (1)
> and after a successful build
> > continue to option (2). Option (1) also provides support for Windows XP,
> so we could stick at
> > that for a while. After (1) is complete I presume that building to a new
> compiler and SDK, will
> > be easier, since the project will have already changed to MSBuild.
>
> Sounds like a plan to me.
> And I also think it would be good if we can support XP for some
> additional time.
>
> Regards,
>Matthias
>
> >
> > What are your thoughts and suggestions about this matter?
> >
> > Kind regards,
> > George
>
>
>

-- 
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Re: Help building AOO416 on Ubuntu 16.04

[Gavin McDonald]

Hi Pedro,


On Sun, Oct 14, 2018 at 8:25 PM Pedro Lino  wrote:

> Hi all
>
>
> I have come across the first two problems:
>
>
> 1) E: Package 'openjdk-7-jdk' has no installation candidate
>
> I installed openjdk-8 instead
>
>
> 2) The following packages have unmet dependencies:
> libgstreamer-ocaml : Depends: ocaml-base-nox-4.02.3
> Conflicts: libgstreamer-ocaml:i386 but 0.2.0-2build2 is to be installed
> libgstreamer-ocaml:i386 : Conflicts: libgstreamer-ocaml but 0.2.0-2build2
> is to be installed
> libgstreamer-ocaml-dev : Depends: ocaml-nox-4.02.3
> Depends: ocaml-findlib but it is not going to be installed
> Conflicts: libgstreamer-ocaml-dev:i386 but 0.2.0-2build2 is to be installed
> libgstreamer-ocaml-dev:i386 : Depends: ocaml-nox-4.02.3:i386
> Depends: libgstreamer1.0-dev:i386 but it is not going to be installed
> Depends: libgstreamer-plugins-base1.0-dev:i386 but it is not going to be
> installed
> Conflicts: libgstreamer-ocaml-dev but 0.2.0-2build2 is to be installed
> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
>
>
> Help?
>

What build instructions have you been following so far?


> Is someone going to be online today on IRC or available for direct email?
> I think these newbie problems don't belong in the dev mailing list.
>

16.04 isnt in our build systems yet for openoffice, and so only a handful
of developers have been trying it so far.
With that said, I believe this list is the right place for such questions
so that those that follow can see the discussions in the
archives.

Gav...


>
> Regards,
>
> Pedro
>

Re: Chat Channel (was [Discussion] Program for Sandro)

[Gavin McDonald]

Install the Slack app, or via the web goto the-asf.slack.com you will find
an #openoffice slack channel ready and waiting, been there quite some time
unused.

With HipChat going away, Slack is the option to use now.

I am there, lets see you all there too!

HTH

Gav...


On Sun, Oct 14, 2018 at 2:12 AM Howard Cary Morris <
howard_cary_mor...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> I can create a chat room to share or you can use another service to do the
> same thing
> Howard
>
> From: sandro
> Sent: Friday, October 12, 2018 6:59 PM
> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Chat Channel (was [Discussion] Program for Sandro)
>
> Hi,
>
> I feel that the chat channel (real time chat) can really improve our
> experience to more creativity, we could be able to communicate and interact
> in real time, certainly our productivity would soar, it would lead us to
> greater satisfaction.
>
> Has anyone felt the same way about that idea? What is your opinion?
>
> When I first gave the idea I was thinking about a communication between me
> and Peter, but as other guys liked that idea then I feel it could be an
> amazing experience to all of us.
>
> Glad,
> Sandro Suzart
>
> 
> De: Peter Kovacs 
> Enviado: segunda-feira, 8 de outubro de 2018 04:11
> Para: dev@openoffice.apache.org
> Assunto: Chat Channel (was [Discussion] Program for Sandro)
>
> Hi all,
>
> I am traveling a lot. The classic irc channel never worked for me,
> because I get disconnects all the time.
>
> So currently from my perspective we could set something up in threema,
> slack or discord for real time chat.
>
> I am also open for other mobile capable options. Just keep in mind it
> has to work with a shitty german mobile connection.
>
> If anyone knows a solution for IRC I would gladly participate in a
> channel there.
>
>
> All the best
>
> Peter
>
> On 9/26/18 3:13 AM, sandro wrote:
> > Dear Peter
> >
> > It is an amazing idea, very nice. Maybe one of those kind services (
> Dropbox or Google) have a nice and amazing chat service so we could
> communicate in real time while working. It is nice to interact and it is
> glad, certainly it will drive us to joy.
> >
> > I would like to try Dropbox and I would like to know if this service has
> means of communication in real time, like a chat?
> >
> > Glad,
> > Sandro Suzart
> >
> >
> > 
> > De: Peter Kovacs 
> > Enviado: domingo, 23 de setembro de 2018 12:29
> > Para: dev@openoffice.apache.org
> > Assunto: Re: [Discussion] Program for Sandro
> >
> > Dear Sandro,
> >
> > Glad to read about your determination. :) Lets get you doing something.
> >
> > You can send it directly to my address if you like. I personally would
> > appreciate if we could store it somewhere more cloudy.
> >
> > How about google drive or Dropbox. They offer free cloud space. And you
> > can setup the space easy.
> >
> >
> > Yea it is really cool that we are a cloud Project. I think it is great
> > that you are with us. Maybe we can make OpenOffice a bit more Cloudy. ;)
> >
> > All the best
> >
> > Peter
> >
> > On 9/22/18 7:32 PM, sandro wrote:
> >> Dear Peter,
> >>
> >> It is always amazing to show my commitment and passion for this
> project, I feel that it is so good to build together that it certainly
> drives all of us to happiness.
> >>
> >> I just have been looking for sending a work plan to you, as I told in
> my last message. I will ask an user for the wiki project.
> >>
> >> Well, I have the wish and I feel that I am plenty able to go on with
> long term perspective with this volunteering. Because since the time
> schedule is flexible and since I can work from anywhere (school, park, home
> ...) there is probably no interference in the activity and I think that
> nothing will prevent me from collaborate. If a have to move to another
> city, or if I work more in another project, I can always collaborate; the
> only thing that would stop would be internet connection ( if I do not have
> it at home) but it is easy to find free wifi anywhere, there are libraries
> and other buildings that offer internet access for free and also a computer
> to access.
> >>
> >> So I will always be here, I just was doing the work plan while handling
> other tasks (such as a university test to September, 24. It is a calculus
> test, macroeconomics test and a management test in the same week... rs). I
> plan to always collaborate with you, always hold hands.
> >>
> >> Glad,
> >> Sandro Suzart
> >>
> >>
> >> 
> >> De: Peter Kovacs 
> >> Enviado: sábado, 22 de setembro de 2018 01:04
> >> Para: dev@openoffice.apache.org
> >> Assunto: Re: [Discussion] Program for Sandro
> >>
> >> Dear,
> >>
> >> Have you asked a user Request? - Use a new thread for that please. -
> >> Hope you are still with us, it would be sad if you already stop.
> >>
> >> All the best
> >>
> >> Peter
> >>
> >> On 9/11/18 5:15 PM, 

Help building AOO416 on Ubuntu 16.04

[Pedro Lino]

Hi all


I have come across the first two problems:


1) E: Package 'openjdk-7-jdk' has no installation candidate

I installed openjdk-8 instead


2) The following packages have unmet dependencies:
libgstreamer-ocaml : Depends: ocaml-base-nox-4.02.3
Conflicts: libgstreamer-ocaml:i386 but 0.2.0-2build2 is to be installed
libgstreamer-ocaml:i386 : Conflicts: libgstreamer-ocaml but 0.2.0-2build2 is to 
be installed
libgstreamer-ocaml-dev : Depends: ocaml-nox-4.02.3
Depends: ocaml-findlib but it is not going to be installed
Conflicts: libgstreamer-ocaml-dev:i386 but 0.2.0-2build2 is to be installed
libgstreamer-ocaml-dev:i386 : Depends: ocaml-nox-4.02.3:i386
Depends: libgstreamer1.0-dev:i386 but it is not going to be installed
Depends: libgstreamer-plugins-base1.0-dev:i386 but it is not going to be 
installed
Conflicts: libgstreamer-ocaml-dev but 0.2.0-2build2 is to be installed
E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.


Help?

Is someone going to be online today on IRC or available for direct email? I 
think these newbie problems don't belong in the dev mailing list.


Regards,

Pedro