Re: ODF Plugfest: participation and leaflets
Dennis, So many thanks fro your support. We are in the last knockings and are due to go to print shortly and must decide numbers Can you let Stuart if/how many copies of the Dutch and/or English versions you would wish us to post to you. Basil Cousins Director OpenForum Europe 44 (0) 208 224 1830 44 (0) 750 599 7115 www.openforumeurope.org This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are the property of OFE Ltd, are confidential, may be subject to legal privilege and are intended only for the person(s) or organisation(s) named above. Any unauthorised use, retention, distribution, copying or disclosure is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this e-mail from your system. WARNING: It is your responsibility to take all necessary steps to ensure this e-mail and any attachments to it are free from viruses. On 7 September 2015 at 20:21, Dennis E. Hamilton <dennis.hamil...@acm.org> wrote: > Thanks, Stuart. > > > > To be clear, I was not thinking of direct participation but something > simple to be used in providing the “ODF in the marketplace” session with > some useful self-explanatory data from the Apache OpenOffice Project. > > > > In any case, I doubt there is something that could be done in this short > time window. I am thinking it would be something useful for the project > to track and report on a quarterly basis, if feasible. > > > > - Dennis > > > > *From:* Stuart J Mackintosh [mailto:s...@opusvl.com] > *Sent:* Monday, September 7, 2015 10:35 > *To:* orc...@apache.org > *Cc:* dev@openoffice.apache.org; Graham Taylor <gra...@openforumeurope.org>; > 'Andrea Pescetti' <pesce...@apache.org>; Basil Cousins < > ba...@openforumeurope.org> > *Subject:* Re: ODF Plugfest: participation and leaflets > > > > Dennis, > > Thank you for supporting this initiative and providing the response from > the AOO community. I will include the AOO entry in the Application Choices > table as proposed. > > Should AOO choose to feature as a sponsor for 100GBP per language (English > & Dutch), you will need to let Basil know by 14:00 GMT in order that the > design can be updated. > > Your participation would be welcome if it can be arranged, but fully > understand if it cannot due to the short notice on this occasion. For > future ODF Plugfests, we will try to provide sufficient notice for you to > debate and prepare in good time. > > Best regards, > > Stuart. > > > > > > From the Chair, > > > > Stuart, thank you for your patience and keeping the AOO community tied > into the planning for the ODF Plugfest and preparation of the booklet. > > > > It appears that the “Application Choices” convergence achieved with the > suggestions from Andrea Pescetti is quite satisfactory. There have been > no objections whatsoever. > > > > I appreciate that it is already evening where you are. The deadline for > committing to booklet design will be early tomorrow for some of us, so I > want to summarize where we stand. > > > > PLUGFEST BOOKLET SPONSORSHIP > > > > There is a simple consensus process for deliberation on travel funds, > agreement to provide a sponsorship, and so on. > > > > Although it was suggested that a proposal be deliberated on, it seems to > have been a non-starter. I think it’s safe to say that we will not be > requesting presentation as a sponsor for the booklet. If that changes in > the few hours remaining, I will let you know as soon as anything to the > contrary comes to my attention (at UTC-0700). > > > > REPORTING TO THE PLUGFEST > > > > Finally, the Plugfest is only 7 days ahead of us. It might be possible > to have a few slides on “ODF in the Apache OpenOffice Marketplace” for the > Tuesday, 2015-09-15 session on “ODF in the market place.” This has > prompted barely-tentative discussion here. Again, there has not been > much headway. It is definitely something for the project to look into. I > am not certain what kind of findings can be provided at this point; having > anything for the Plugfest seems doubtful. The topic is still open though. > > > > Regards, > > > > - Dennis > > > > [ … ] > -- Basil Cousins Director - UK Openforum Europe 44 (0) 208 224 1830 44 (0) 771 736 2525 www.openforumeurope.org This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are the property of OFE Ltd, are confidential, may be subject to legal privilege and are intended only for the person(s) or organisation(s) named above. Any unauthorised use, retention, distribution, copying or disclosure is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this e-mail from your system. WARNING: It is your responsibility to take all necessary steps to ensure this e-mail and any attachments to it are free from viruses.
Re: ODF Plugfest: participation and leaflets
Hello Dennis, Thanks for your message. We are able to include Apache OO in the logos as Rosemary Lynch has very kindly provided the funds for both versions in memory of her husband. He made a similar sponsorship for the London Plugfest document. Best regards Basil On 7 September 2015 at 18:18, Dennis E. Hamilton <orc...@apache.org> wrote: > From the Chair, > > > > Stuart, thank you for your patience and keeping the AOO community tied > into the planning for the ODF Plugfest and preparation of the booklet. > > > > It appears that the “Application Choices” convergence achieved with the > suggestions from Andrea Pescetti is quite satisfactory. There have been > no objections whatsoever. > > > > I appreciate that it is already evening where you are. The deadline for > committing to booklet design will be early tomorrow for some of us, so I > want to summarize where we stand. > > > > PLUGFEST BOOKLET SPONSORSHIP > > > > There is a simple consensus process for deliberation on travel funds, > agreement to provide a sponsorship, and so on. > > > > Although it was suggested that a proposal be deliberated on, it seems to > have been a non-starter. I think it’s safe to say that we will not be > requesting presentation as a sponsor for the booklet. If that changes in > the few hours remaining, I will let you know as soon as anything to the > contrary comes to my attention (at UTC-0700). > > > > REPORTING TO THE PLUGFEST > > > > Finally, the Plugfest is only 7 days ahead of us. It might be possible > to have a few slides on “ODF in the Apache OpenOffice Marketplace” for the > Tuesday, 2015-09-15 session on “ODF in the market place.” This has > prompted barely-tentative discussion here. Again, there has not been > much headway. It is definitely something for the project to look into. I > am not certain what kind of findings can be provided at this point; having > anything for the Plugfest seems doubtful. The topic is still open though. > > > > Regards, > > > > - Dennis > > > > *From:* Stuart J Mackintosh [mailto:s...@opusvl.com] > *Sent:* Sunday, September 6, 2015 08:52 > *To:* Andrea Pescetti <pesce...@apache.org>; dev@openoffice.apache.org > *Cc:* 'Graham Taylor' <gra...@openforumeurope.org> > *Subject:* Re: ODF Plugfest: participation and leaflets > > > > Andrea, > > > > On reflection, we were not comfortable with the previously published > "Application Choices" table, we feel it was not fully considered, so it > will be replaced in this version. I have included the proposed > replacement table at the end of this email > > > We don't CC you on all replies, but you can find a draft of the current > updates we would make to the Application Choices table (limited to the > OpenOffice entry of course) at > http://s.apache.org/Hoh (scroll down until the end) > > > I have reviewed the thread, thank you for your efforts and community > engagement with this. > > > If that changes further, we'll send you an updated version by Tuesday > morning European time, but you can use that version for the time being. > > > I have made a couple of minor alterations and propose that we include the > following entry: > > *Software* > > *License* > > *Formats (file types)* > > *Platforms* > > *Support* > > *Link* > > *Notes* > > Apache OpenOffice > > Open Source (ALv2) > > All > > Windows, OS X, Linux > > Community > > https://www.openoffice.org/ > > The default and recommended outputs are Extended ODF 1.2 documents. > Third-party ports to Android, FreeBSD, OS/2 available > > > Please advise if this is acceptable. > > Best regards, > > Stuart. > > -- > > Stuart J Mackintosh > > Director / Owner > > [image: OpusVL Logo] > > Business management software - Joined-up, flexible & open > > • Open Source Specialists > > Drury House > > Drury Lane > > Rugby > > CV21 3DE > > T: 01788 298 450 > > DDI: 01788 298 457 > > E: s...@opusvl.com > > W: http://opusvl.com > -- Basil Cousins Director - UK Openforum Europe 44 (0) 208 224 1830 44 (0) 771 736 2525 www.openforumeurope.org This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are the property of OFE Ltd, are confidential, may be subject to legal privilege and are intended only for the person(s) or organisation(s) named above. Any unauthorised use, retention, distribution, copying or disclosure is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this e-mail from your system. WARNING: It is your responsibility to take all necessary steps to ensure this e-mail and any attachments to it are free from viruses.
Re: ODF Plugfest: participation and leaflets
Roberto, The designers are pressing us hard. I will put in Apache OO Logo provisionally. OK? Basil On 4 September 2015 at 15:37, Roberto Galoppini <roberto.galopp...@gmail.com > wrote: > Basil, > > I'm sure you'll get an answer, but unfortunately I can't commit to provide > you with an answer in a short time frame. Our Chair will sort out a way to > manage this situation, though. > > Roberto > > 2015-09-04 16:25 GMT+02:00 Basil Cousins <ba...@openforumeurope.org>: > >> Roberto, >> >> We need to close very soon. When can you let me know about English >> version? >> >> Basil >> >> On 4 September 2015 at 15:04, Roberto Galoppini < >> roberto.galopp...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Hi Basil, >>> >>> Nice to catch up again. I want to clarify that here I'm expressing only >>> my opinion, we do need the PMC to establish if we want - as a community - >>> to sponsor the English version. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> 2015-09-04 14:31 GMT+02:00 Basil Cousins <ba...@openforumeurope.org>: >>> >>>> Hi Roberto, >>>> >>>> Great to be in touch. I will ask Graham Taylor to raise an invoice for >>>> £100+VAT to cover the English Version. >>>> Can you let us have the address to be put on the invoice? >>>> >>>> Shal we use the same logo as in the London version for Apache Open >>>> Office or is there a more recent one? >>>> >>>> Basil >>>> >>>> Basil >>>> >>>> On 4 September 2015 at 12:38, Roberto Galoppini < >>>> roberto.galopp...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 2015-09-04 5:06 GMT+02:00 Louis Suárez-Potts <lui...@gmail.com>: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>> Comments inline. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> > On 03 Sep 15, at 16:24, Andrea Pescetti <pesce...@apache.org> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> > >>>>>> > As we discussed some weeks ago, the next ODF Plugfest will be held >>>>>> in The Hague, Netherlands, mid-September: >>>>>> > http://plugfest.opendocumentformat.org/2015-thehague/programme/ >>>>>> > >>>>>> > There are three issues that require attention in a very short time. >>>>>> Deadline is 8 September when not otherwise specified. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > 1) Is anyone going in the end? We discussed this at length. I've >>>>>> never considered going since it overlaps with another event I'm scheduled >>>>>> to attend. Dennis and Roberto were both mentioned (and Dennis later >>>>>> clarified he is busy in the US). Of course if someone goes we can still >>>>>> discuss to allocate a budget from our events fund. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> When I made plans to go I didn't know about much about my calendar of >>>>> business meetings. As of now I can't commit to that trip, unfortunately. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The event somewhat overlaps with a personal engagement but that may >>>>>> be negotiable. It depends on how much subsidy we have to support this >>>>>> very >>>>>> late trip—of mine, I mean. I’d be coming from Toronto, Canada. A quick >>>>>> price check via Orbitz reveals that for a flight via the dodgy Air >>>>>> Transat >>>>>> the cost (R/T) would be about 740 USD. Include an Airbnb room—don’t know >>>>>> how much that would be but probably not that much, though still, for >>>>>> three >>>>>> days, at leasts 150 USD, and probably more. (I’m guessing the Hague is >>>>>> costly.) Besides Air Transat, the average price for airfare to AMS is >>>>>> about >>>>>> 1300 USD; to the Hague (Rotterdam) 500 USD more or so. I’m guessing a >>>>>> train >>>>>> trip from AMS is cheaper. >>>>>> >>>>>> I’ve been to several of these events, including, I think, the >>>>>> initiating one. I know ODF fairly well, was on the Oasis TCs, etc. (I >>>>>> quit >>>>>> them a couple of years ago.) The drawback for me going is I’m not >>>>
Re: ODF Plugfest: participation and leaflets
Hi Roberto, Great to be in touch. I will ask Graham Taylor to raise an invoice for £100+VAT to cover the English Version. Can you let us have the address to be put on the invoice? Shal we use the same logo as in the London version for Apache Open Office or is there a more recent one? Basil Basil On 4 September 2015 at 12:38, Roberto Galoppini <roberto.galopp...@gmail.com > wrote: > > > 2015-09-04 5:06 GMT+02:00 Louis Suárez-Potts <lui...@gmail.com>: > >> Hi all, >> Comments inline. >> >> >> > On 03 Sep 15, at 16:24, Andrea Pescetti <pesce...@apache.org> wrote: >> > >> > As we discussed some weeks ago, the next ODF Plugfest will be held in >> The Hague, Netherlands, mid-September: >> > http://plugfest.opendocumentformat.org/2015-thehague/programme/ >> > >> > There are three issues that require attention in a very short time. >> Deadline is 8 September when not otherwise specified. >> > >> > 1) Is anyone going in the end? We discussed this at length. I've never >> considered going since it overlaps with another event I'm scheduled to >> attend. Dennis and Roberto were both mentioned (and Dennis later clarified >> he is busy in the US). Of course if someone goes we can still discuss to >> allocate a budget from our events fund. >> > > When I made plans to go I didn't know about much about my calendar of > business meetings. As of now I can't commit to that trip, unfortunately. > > > >> >> The event somewhat overlaps with a personal engagement but that may be >> negotiable. It depends on how much subsidy we have to support this very >> late trip—of mine, I mean. I’d be coming from Toronto, Canada. A quick >> price check via Orbitz reveals that for a flight via the dodgy Air Transat >> the cost (R/T) would be about 740 USD. Include an Airbnb room—don’t know >> how much that would be but probably not that much, though still, for three >> days, at leasts 150 USD, and probably more. (I’m guessing the Hague is >> costly.) Besides Air Transat, the average price for airfare to AMS is about >> 1300 USD; to the Hague (Rotterdam) 500 USD more or so. I’m guessing a train >> trip from AMS is cheaper. >> >> I’ve been to several of these events, including, I think, the initiating >> one. I know ODF fairly well, was on the Oasis TCs, etc. (I quit them a >> couple of years ago.) The drawback for me going is I’m not developing ODF >> or for ODF and though I can certainly represent AOO’s continued interest in >> furthering usage of ODF, not to mention other Apache projects’ ODF work, to >> some extent I’ll be mostly competent at relaying speech. >> > > I agree, and I think it would be important to give a speech about our > concerns around office formats' interoperability. > I believe we can still ask Michiel or Basil to accommodate a similar ask. > > >> >> >> > >> > 2) I was contacted (for no special reason; I've never attended a >> Plugfest) by Basil Cousins of Openforum Europe, who gave me permission to >> forward his request here, about updating a leaflet for the next ODF >> Plugfest. The 2014 version is here: >> > >> http://openforumeurope.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/OFE-COIS-DFD-ODF-Open-Document-Principles-for-Government-Technology-March-2015.pdf >> > and there is also an infographic available at >> http://www.openforumeurope.org/library/odf-toolkit-2/ >> > Can you please suggest content updates to this leaflet? Basil in is CC. >> We can discuss updates on this list and then one of us, ideally someone who >> attends the event, can send the final comments to Basil. The part needing >> more attention is the Applications Choices section on page 5. >> >> I can look at it, too. But others, here, can surely weigh in. I think we >> have talent to enhance this, no? >> >> > >> > 3) For this leaflet they also ask for a contribution for printing. One >> can support printing the English version (addressed to UK government), the >> Dutch version (addressed to Dutch government) or both. The contribution is >> 100 GBP (so about 135 EUR or 150 USD) for each edition. If you feel it >> would be useful, I assume that the fund for events and merchandising could >> be used to support this. Please state if you propose that we allocate >> budget and, in case it's a yes, if you'd rather contribute to the English >> version or both versions. >> >> I think it would be money well spent. >> > > Agree for the English version, as far as we can also enrich its content, > though. > > Roberto > > >
