Re: Layout improvements (Re: [Pootle]Different behaviour on different browsers)
On 2013/05/19 12:16 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: On 16/05/2013 Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote: On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 03:41:11PM +0200, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: a more generic layout engine for VCL. Thinking of an extended or modified format to describe dialogs and include layout info/constraints that are used by the layout engine etc. Christian Lippka had this almost finished. I recall the picture from this thread http://www.mail-archive.com/dev@de.openoffice.org/msg30669.html it had a side panel defined in xml. It would be interesting to investigate if the work was done on some private repository in Hamburg, or if it is in some CWS on http://hg.services.openoffice.org/; and rescue it, avoiding to reinvent the wheel. He was also doing a nice job with the svtools::ToolbarMenu in the toolbar controllers: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_eO0X_eO6Ww Christian is an Apache OpenOffice committer and already contributed his improved color picker to Apache OpenOffice, so if he wants he can merge his improvements any time. The video seems to be from the Renaissance4 CWS, still in HG. I absolutely don't know whether this CWS contains the layout engine improvement too, though. I talked to Christian and he confirmed that the video was from the code in the http://hg.services.openoffice.org/cws/renaissance4/ child workspace. He doesn't think that the XML-defined sidepanel work got far enough to be worth picking. I'm afraid Christian is too busy in his new job to work further on such OpenOffice topics, but everyone knows him to be very constructive and cooperative. I'm BCC'ing him in case he wants to jump in. Hi Christian! :-) Herbert - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Layout improvements (Re: [Pootle]Different behaviour on different browsers)
On 16/05/2013 Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote: On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 03:41:11PM +0200, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: a more generic layout engine for VCL. Thinking of an extended or modified format to describe dialogs and include layout info/constraints that are used by the layout engine etc. Christian Lippka had this almost finished. I recall the picture from this thread http://www.mail-archive.com/dev@de.openoffice.org/msg30669.html it had a side panel defined in xml. It would be interesting to investigate if the work was done on some private repository in Hamburg, or if it is in some CWS on http://hg.services.openoffice.org/; and rescue it, avoiding to reinvent the wheel. He was also doing a nice job with the svtools::ToolbarMenu in the toolbar controllers: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_eO0X_eO6Ww Christian is an Apache OpenOffice committer and already contributed his improved color picker to Apache OpenOffice, so if he wants he can merge his improvements any time. The video seems to be from the Renaissance4 CWS, still in HG. I absolutely don't know whether this CWS contains the layout engine improvement too, though. Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
[Pootle]Different behaviour on different browsers
Opening Pootle on Firefox, konqueror and Chromium, no matter is I'm logged-in or not, if I search for a text string or look at the tags for errors automatically detected by pootle I get different behaviours. On firefox and konqueror after some seconds I get, under the string the translation memory showing similar translations, but on the bottom right of the page the buttons to browse between the strings flash for a moment and then disappear. On Chromium the browse buttons remains and work, but the translation memory is never shown. On all, every now and then I can see a small unknown error notice that fade away in a couple of seconds. Try for example this simple search https://translate.apache.org/es/aoo40/translate.html#search=abrir%20archivosfields=source,target Can someone confirm this behaviour? The lack of browse buttons means that it is not possible to work on firefox: you cannot jump to the next string. Regards Ricardo
Re: [Pootle]Different behaviour on different browsers
On 5/16/13 1:47 PM, RGB ES wrote: Opening Pootle on Firefox, konqueror and Chromium, no matter is I'm logged-in or not, if I search for a text string or look at the tags for errors automatically detected by pootle I get different behaviours. On firefox and konqueror after some seconds I get, under the string the translation memory showing similar translations, but on the bottom right of the page the buttons to browse between the strings flash for a moment and then disappear. On Chromium the browse buttons remains and work, but the translation memory is never shown. On all, every now and then I can see a small unknown error notice that fade away in a couple of seconds. Try for example this simple search https://translate.apache.org/es/aoo40/translate.html#search=abrir%20archivosfields=source,target Can someone confirm this behaviour? The lack of browse buttons means that it is not possible to work on firefox: you cannot jump to the next string. no I can't confirm, I use Firefox 20.0 on MacOS. I see the next button on the bottom right and can use it. I see also 3 similar translations and can switch between them. Juergen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [Pootle]Different behaviour on different browsers
2013/5/16 Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com On 5/16/13 1:47 PM, RGB ES wrote: Opening Pootle on Firefox, konqueror and Chromium, no matter is I'm logged-in or not, if I search for a text string or look at the tags for errors automatically detected by pootle I get different behaviours. On firefox and konqueror after some seconds I get, under the string the translation memory showing similar translations, but on the bottom right of the page the buttons to browse between the strings flash for a moment and then disappear. On Chromium the browse buttons remains and work, but the translation memory is never shown. On all, every now and then I can see a small unknown error notice that fade away in a couple of seconds. Try for example this simple search https://translate.apache.org/es/aoo40/translate.html#search=abrir%20archivosfields=source,target Can someone confirm this behaviour? The lack of browse buttons means that it is not possible to work on firefox: you cannot jump to the next string. no I can't confirm, I use Firefox 20.0 on MacOS. I see the next button on the bottom right and can use it. Strange... I use firefox 20 too, but on openSUSE. Ricardo I see also 3 similar translations and can switch between them. Juergen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [Pootle]Different behaviour on different browsers
Hi 2013/5/16 Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com: On 5/16/13 1:47 PM, RGB ES wrote: Can someone confirm this behaviour? The lack of browse buttons means that it is not possible to work on firefox: you cannot jump to the next string. I do. I opened my space and opened any fuzzy/unstranslated string and appears the suggestion in Iceweasel (firefox in Debian) , where in Chromium (Chrome in Debian), don't shows. With this fact, i will use firefox to translate to use this (IMHO, very useful) feature. Best, Claudio - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [Pootle]Different behaviour on different browsers
2013/5/16 Claudio Filho filh...@gmail.com Hi 2013/5/16 Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com: On 5/16/13 1:47 PM, RGB ES wrote: Can someone confirm this behaviour? The lack of browse buttons means that it is not possible to work on firefox: you cannot jump to the next string. I do. I opened my space and opened any fuzzy/unstranslated string and appears the suggestion in Iceweasel (firefox in Debian) , where in Chromium (Chrome in Debian), don't shows. But can you see the browse buttons on Firefox? This is what I see: http://people.apache.org/~rgb-es/PootleChromium.png http://people.apache.org/~rgb-es/PootleFirefox.png Regards Ricardo With this fact, i will use firefox to translate to use this (IMHO, very useful) feature. Best, Claudio - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [Pootle]Different behaviour on different browsers
On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 7:47 AM, RGB ES rgb.m...@gmail.com wrote: Opening Pootle on Firefox, konqueror and Chromium, no matter is I'm logged-in or not, if I search for a text string or look at the tags for errors automatically detected by pootle I get different behaviours. Clear your browser cache? There might be cached Javascript? -Rob On firefox and konqueror after some seconds I get, under the string the translation memory showing similar translations, but on the bottom right of the page the buttons to browse between the strings flash for a moment and then disappear. On Chromium the browse buttons remains and work, but the translation memory is never shown. On all, every now and then I can see a small unknown error notice that fade away in a couple of seconds. Try for example this simple search https://translate.apache.org/es/aoo40/translate.html#search=abrir%20archivosfields=source,target Can someone confirm this behaviour? The lack of browse buttons means that it is not possible to work on firefox: you cannot jump to the next string. Regards Ricardo - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [Pootle]Different behaviour on different browsers
On 5/16/13 2:37 PM, RGB ES wrote: 2013/5/16 Claudio Filho filh...@gmail.com Hi 2013/5/16 Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com: On 5/16/13 1:47 PM, RGB ES wrote: Can someone confirm this behaviour? The lack of browse buttons means that it is not possible to work on firefox: you cannot jump to the next string. I do. I opened my space and opened any fuzzy/unstranslated string and appears the suggestion in Iceweasel (firefox in Debian) , where in Chromium (Chrome in Debian), don't shows. But can you see the browse buttons on Firefox? This is what I see: http://people.apache.org/~rgb-es/PootleChromium.png http://people.apache.org/~rgb-es/PootleFirefox.png that's mine http://people.apache.org/~jsc/screenshots/Pootle_Firefox20_MacOS.png Regards Ricardo With this fact, i will use firefox to translate to use this (IMHO, very useful) feature. Best, Claudio - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [Pootle]Different behaviour on different browsers
2013/5/16 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 7:47 AM, RGB ES rgb.m...@gmail.com wrote: Opening Pootle on Firefox, konqueror and Chromium, no matter is I'm logged-in or not, if I search for a text string or look at the tags for errors automatically detected by pootle I get different behaviours. Clear your browser cache? There might be cached Javascript? No, I already tried that... but I did not try something more obvious: enlarge the window. Buttons were there, but not visible because they do not had enough space to be shown. Oh, well. Jürgen, your screenshot was inspirational :) Sorry for the noise! Now everything is OK Regards Ricardo -Rob On firefox and konqueror after some seconds I get, under the string the translation memory showing similar translations, but on the bottom right of the page the buttons to browse between the strings flash for a moment and then disappear. On Chromium the browse buttons remains and work, but the translation memory is never shown. On all, every now and then I can see a small unknown error notice that fade away in a couple of seconds. Try for example this simple search https://translate.apache.org/es/aoo40/translate.html#search=abrir%20archivosfields=source,target Can someone confirm this behaviour? The lack of browse buttons means that it is not possible to work on firefox: you cannot jump to the next string. Regards Ricardo - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [Pootle]Different behaviour on different browsers
2013/5/16 RGB ES rgb.m...@gmail.com: But can you see the browse buttons on Firefox? This is what I see: Yes. I can. For me, the unique problem is the suggestions missing. @Rob, i did it, without success. Same behavior. Claudio - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [Pootle]Different behaviour on different browsers
On 5/16/13 2:51 PM, RGB ES wrote: 2013/5/16 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 7:47 AM, RGB ES rgb.m...@gmail.com wrote: Opening Pootle on Firefox, konqueror and Chromium, no matter is I'm logged-in or not, if I search for a text string or look at the tags for errors automatically detected by pootle I get different behaviours. Clear your browser cache? There might be cached Javascript? No, I already tried that... but I did not try something more obvious: enlarge the window. Buttons were there, but not visible because they do not had enough space to be shown. Oh, well. Jürgen, your screenshot was inspirational :) Sorry for the noise! Now everything is OK no problem, nice to solve problems so easy ;-) It sees that others have layout problems as well, not only OpenOffice where layouting of controls in the UI for example is a nightmare and handcrafted :-( Juergen Regards Ricardo -Rob On firefox and konqueror after some seconds I get, under the string the translation memory showing similar translations, but on the bottom right of the page the buttons to browse between the strings flash for a moment and then disappear. On Chromium the browse buttons remains and work, but the translation memory is never shown. On all, every now and then I can see a small unknown error notice that fade away in a couple of seconds. Try for example this simple search https://translate.apache.org/es/aoo40/translate.html#search=abrir%20archivosfields=source,target Can someone confirm this behaviour? The lack of browse buttons means that it is not possible to work on firefox: you cannot jump to the next string. Regards Ricardo - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [Pootle]Different behaviour on different browsers
On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 02:55:51PM +0200, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: no problem, nice to solve problems so easy ;-) It sees that others have layout problems as well, not only OpenOffice where layouting of controls in the UI for example is a nightmare and handcrafted :-( There is some basic support in vcl/inc/vcl/arrange.hxx vcl/source/window/arrange.cxx OpenGrok for RowOrColumn and you'll see it's even used in some dialogs, prominently in the resizable Print dialog http://opengrok.adfinis-sygroup.org/source/search?q=RowOrColumndefs=refs=path=mainhist=project=aoo-trunk (I used it to make the Readme dialog resizable without having to re-layout the controls - I like wasting my free time in this most unimportant dialog, vcl is fun :) ). Regards -- Ariel Constenla-Haile La Plata, Argentina pgp7Rr44c8dJV.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [Pootle]Different behaviour on different browsers
On 5/16/13 3:12 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote: On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 02:55:51PM +0200, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: no problem, nice to solve problems so easy ;-) It sees that others have layout problems as well, not only OpenOffice where layouting of controls in the UI for example is a nightmare and handcrafted :-( There is some basic support in vcl/inc/vcl/arrange.hxx vcl/source/window/arrange.cxx OpenGrok for RowOrColumn and you'll see it's even used in some dialogs, prominently in the resizable Print dialog ok I never have used this directly. I did UI mainly via the toolkit. http://opengrok.adfinis-sygroup.org/source/search?q=RowOrColumndefs=refs=path=mainhist=project=aoo-trunk (I used it to make the Readme dialog resizable without having to re-layout the controls - I like wasting my free time in this most unimportant dialog, vcl is fun :) ). maybe you are interested to work on a more generic layout engine for VCL. Thinking of an extended or modified format to describe dialogs and include layout info/constraints that are used by the layout engine etc. This would be a very useful thing of course. Juergen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [Pootle]Different behaviour on different browsers
On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 03:41:11PM +0200, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: On 5/16/13 3:12 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote: On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 02:55:51PM +0200, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: no problem, nice to solve problems so easy ;-) It sees that others have layout problems as well, not only OpenOffice where layouting of controls in the UI for example is a nightmare and handcrafted :-( There is some basic support in vcl/inc/vcl/arrange.hxx vcl/source/window/arrange.cxx OpenGrok for RowOrColumn and you'll see it's even used in some dialogs, prominently in the resizable Print dialog ok I never have used this directly. I did UI mainly via the toolkit. http://opengrok.adfinis-sygroup.org/source/search?q=RowOrColumndefs=refs=path=mainhist=project=aoo-trunk (I used it to make the Readme dialog resizable without having to re-layout the controls - I like wasting my free time in this most unimportant dialog, vcl is fun :) ). maybe you are interested to work on a more generic layout engine for VCL. Thinking of an extended or modified format to describe dialogs and include layout info/constraints that are used by the layout engine etc. This would be a very useful thing of course. Christian Lippka had this almost finished. I recall the picture from this thread http://www.mail-archive.com/dev@de.openoffice.org/msg30669.html it had a side panel defined in xml. It would be interesting to investigate if the work was done on some private repository in Hamburg, or if it is in some CWS on http://hg.services.openoffice.org/; and rescue it, avoiding to reinvent the wheel. He was also doing a nice job with the svtools::ToolbarMenu in the toolbar controllers: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_eO0X_eO6Ww (side note: interesting reading the opinion of some former Oracle developers, now working elsewhere) Regards -- Ariel Constenla-Haile La Plata, Argentina pgpnp57msT_ZZ.pgp Description: PGP signature
