Re: Incubator still has SVN tree = to be removed in 72h
On 25.03.2014 12:50, Herbert Duerr wrote: [...] So if the next 72 hours indicate consensus on removing the incubator/ooo part of the repository I suggest that we should do so. The code history is already preserved in our git-import. Ok, the 72h period is up and we reached (lazy) consensus on it. The incubator/ooo tree has the read-only flag on though so it cannot be removed yet. If anyone has the karma to make it writable again please do so. Or remove the incubator/ooo part of the repository directly. Herbert - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Incubator still has SVN tree = to be removed in 72h
On 24.03.2014 15:36, Herbert Duerr wrote: On 24.03.2014 15:13, sebb wrote: On 24 March 2014 13:51, Herbert Duerr h...@apache.org wrote: On 23.03.2014 09:52, Andrea Pescetti wrote: sebb wrote: There is still an SVN tree under Incubator: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/ooo/ I assume this was all transferred to the main ASF SVN area at https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/ If so, please can someone tidy up the Incubator tree? It was indeed all transferred, and the old copy made read-only by Infra. It wasn't deleted since we still had releases and documentation around that referred to the Incubator. There are still many e.g. Wiki pages that reference the incubator locations. I updated some of them but there are still plenty left, e.g. about the branch aw080, netbeans, OOXML, etc. I suggest to update them to their new location at https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice For links that should continue to point into the incubator directory, e.g. because the branch was integrated and removed at the new location SVN offers the possibility to reference older branches using the https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/!svn/bc/155/incubator/ooo/trunk/ notation. Although that should work, I think it could be confusing. IMO it would be better to find the appropriate entry in the new SVN layout. If there is no such entry, is there really a need to keep the reference to the incubator-only SVN tree? I mostly agree. For the pages that I already updated I was able to change all references to their new repository location. But for sub-project specific pages the status is not always obvious which alternative would be most suitable: - update them to their new repository location - keep the link into the incubator location - are the pages are still relevant or could/should they be deleted. AFAIK it is not easy to resurrect deleted Wiki pages, so doing that on still somewhat interesting pages would be a net loss. The best solution would be to check the problematic pages and their links. So if anyone has more insight into their status please update them: A quick google search found pages about the object inspector extension, the netbeans extension, the aw080 branch, OOXML, etc. A closer examination showed that the problematic links had counterparts in the post-graduation repository location and the text around these links didn't indicate a special dependency, so I'm confident that it was OK to update them, which I just did. So if the next 72 hours indicate consensus on removing the incubator/ooo part of the repository I suggest that we should do so. The code history is already preserved in our git-import. Herbert - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Incubator still has SVN tree = to be removed in 72h
On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 7:50 AM, Herbert Duerr h...@apache.org wrote: On 24.03.2014 15:36, Herbert Duerr wrote: On 24.03.2014 15:13, sebb wrote: On 24 March 2014 13:51, Herbert Duerr h...@apache.org wrote: On 23.03.2014 09:52, Andrea Pescetti wrote: sebb wrote: There is still an SVN tree under Incubator: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/ooo/ I assume this was all transferred to the main ASF SVN area at https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/ If so, please can someone tidy up the Incubator tree? It was indeed all transferred, and the old copy made read-only by Infra. It wasn't deleted since we still had releases and documentation around that referred to the Incubator. There are still many e.g. Wiki pages that reference the incubator locations. I updated some of them but there are still plenty left, e.g. about the branch aw080, netbeans, OOXML, etc. I suggest to update them to their new location at https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice For links that should continue to point into the incubator directory, e.g. because the branch was integrated and removed at the new location SVN offers the possibility to reference older branches using the https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/!svn/bc/155/incubator/ooo/trunk/ notation. Although that should work, I think it could be confusing. IMO it would be better to find the appropriate entry in the new SVN layout. If there is no such entry, is there really a need to keep the reference to the incubator-only SVN tree? I mostly agree. For the pages that I already updated I was able to change all references to their new repository location. But for sub-project specific pages the status is not always obvious which alternative would be most suitable: - update them to their new repository location - keep the link into the incubator location - are the pages are still relevant or could/should they be deleted. AFAIK it is not easy to resurrect deleted Wiki pages, so doing that on still somewhat interesting pages would be a net loss. The best solution would be to check the problematic pages and their links. So if anyone has more insight into their status please update them: A quick google search found pages about the object inspector extension, the netbeans extension, the aw080 branch, OOXML, etc. A closer examination showed that the problematic links had counterparts in the post-graduation repository location and the text around these links didn't indicate a special dependency, so I'm confident that it was OK to update them, which I just did. So if the next 72 hours indicate consensus on removing the incubator/ooo part of the repository I suggest that we should do so. The code history is already preserved in our git-import. The only issue would be if anyone is doing LTS on 3.40 or 3.4.1, right? Didn't those versions go back to SVN to pick up the binary dependencies? -Rob Herbert - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Incubator still has SVN tree = to be removed in 72h
On 25.03.2014 13:00, Rob Weir wrote: On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 7:50 AM, Herbert Duerr h...@apache.org wrote: [...] So if the next 72 hours indicate consensus on removing the incubator/ooo part of the repository I suggest that we should do so. The code history is already preserved in our git-import. The only issue would be if anyone is doing LTS on 3.40 or 3.4.1, right? Didn't those versions go back to SVN to pick up the binary dependencies? All tags (including AOO340 and AOO341) and the AOO34x release branch are also available at the post-graduation location [1][2][3], so this use case should be covered. [1] http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/tags/AOO340 [2] http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/tags/AOO341 [3] http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/branches/AOO34/ Herbert - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Incubator still has SVN tree
On 23 March 2014 08:52, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: sebb wrote: There is still an SVN tree under Incubator: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/ooo/ I assume this was all transferred to the main ASF SVN area at https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/ If so, please can someone tidy up the Incubator tree? It was indeed all transferred, and the old copy made read-only by Infra. It wasn't deleted since we still had releases and documentation around that referred to the Incubator. I believe it is now safe to delete it. I don't know who can do it. I didn't try, but maybe we need to contact Infra since it is read-only. I can remove the read-only marker if you wish, in which case anyone on the IPMC - or an ASF member - can remove it. Our project site https://openoffice.apache.org/ only had one page referring to the Incubator. It was very outdated, we didn't have anything linking to it and I've now removed it. See http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/site/trunk/content/release-process.mdtext?revision=1418982view=markup in case we need to restore it. Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Incubator still has SVN tree
On 24 March 2014 13:51, Herbert Duerr h...@apache.org wrote: On 23.03.2014 09:52, Andrea Pescetti wrote: sebb wrote: There is still an SVN tree under Incubator: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/ooo/ I assume this was all transferred to the main ASF SVN area at https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/ If so, please can someone tidy up the Incubator tree? It was indeed all transferred, and the old copy made read-only by Infra. It wasn't deleted since we still had releases and documentation around that referred to the Incubator. There are still many e.g. Wiki pages that reference the incubator locations. I updated some of them but there are still plenty left, e.g. about the branch aw080, netbeans, OOXML, etc. I suggest to update them to their new location at https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice For links that should continue to point into the incubator directory, e.g. because the branch was integrated and removed at the new location SVN offers the possibility to reference older branches using the https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/!svn/bc/155/incubator/ooo/trunk/ notation. Although that should work, I think it could be confusing. IMO it would be better to find the appropriate entry in the new SVN layout. If there is no such entry, is there really a need to keep the reference to the incubator-only SVN tree? Herbert - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Incubator still has SVN tree
On 24.03.2014 15:13, sebb wrote: On 24 March 2014 13:51, Herbert Duerr h...@apache.org wrote: On 23.03.2014 09:52, Andrea Pescetti wrote: sebb wrote: There is still an SVN tree under Incubator: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/ooo/ I assume this was all transferred to the main ASF SVN area at https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/ If so, please can someone tidy up the Incubator tree? It was indeed all transferred, and the old copy made read-only by Infra. It wasn't deleted since we still had releases and documentation around that referred to the Incubator. There are still many e.g. Wiki pages that reference the incubator locations. I updated some of them but there are still plenty left, e.g. about the branch aw080, netbeans, OOXML, etc. I suggest to update them to their new location at https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice For links that should continue to point into the incubator directory, e.g. because the branch was integrated and removed at the new location SVN offers the possibility to reference older branches using the https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/!svn/bc/155/incubator/ooo/trunk/ notation. Although that should work, I think it could be confusing. IMO it would be better to find the appropriate entry in the new SVN layout. If there is no such entry, is there really a need to keep the reference to the incubator-only SVN tree? I mostly agree. For the pages that I already updated I was able to change all references to their new repository location. But for sub-project specific pages the status is not always obvious which alternative would be most suitable: - update them to their new repository location - keep the link into the incubator location - are the pages are still relevant or could/should they be deleted. AFAIK it is not easy to resurrect deleted Wiki pages, so doing that on still somewhat interesting pages would be a net loss. The best solution would be to check the problematic pages and their links. So if anyone has more insight into their status please update them: A quick google search found pages about the object inspector extension, the netbeans extension, the aw080 branch, OOXML, etc. Herbert - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Incubator still has SVN tree
sebb wrote: There is still an SVN tree under Incubator: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/ooo/ I assume this was all transferred to the main ASF SVN area at https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/ If so, please can someone tidy up the Incubator tree? It was indeed all transferred, and the old copy made read-only by Infra. It wasn't deleted since we still had releases and documentation around that referred to the Incubator. I believe it is now safe to delete it. I don't know who can do it. I didn't try, but maybe we need to contact Infra since it is read-only. Our project site https://openoffice.apache.org/ only had one page referring to the Incubator. It was very outdated, we didn't have anything linking to it and I've now removed it. See http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/site/trunk/content/release-process.mdtext?revision=1418982view=markup in case we need to restore it. Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Incubator still has SVN tree
There is still an SVN tree under Incubator: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/ooo/ I assume this was all transferred to the main ASF SVN area at https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/ If so, please can someone tidy up the Incubator tree? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
