Re: OpenOffice@15 @ApacheConNA in April
On 28 December 2014 at 00:34, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: On 27/12/2014 Kay Schenk wrote: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=50855951 Nice changes, Andrea! We also need a 3-5 lines descriptions to appear at https://wiki.apache.org/apachecon/ACNA2015ContentCommittee I'm not sure we can actually do this part. I think having the topics will probably determine the best speakers. Hopefully, these speakers will submit proposals. We can do it in phases. As usual, we are a widely distributed project and indeed it's very hard that all the most competent people for each topic are physically in the same place. For some topics we will have the best people, for some other topics we will have competent people who can still deliver a good presentation, for some we may have nobody. and those should then be removed. In any case, I would like to send out a message to our announcements and dev lists about the topics and the conference before Jan. 1 if there are no objections. The dev list is OK for a start (last time I sent a request for talk proposals to the announce list, I got several funny but useless proposals). So if we can start by finalizing the topics, then ask here if we have volunteers for each topic, we can start putting some names. Sounds like a good way to me, please remember there might be some papers in CFP already (as reviewers you have access) and secondly the deadline for CFP is february 1, so time is slowly getting short. rgds jan i. Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: OpenOffice@15 @ApacheConNA in April
On Sat, Dec 27, 2014 at 3:34 PM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: On 27/12/2014 Kay Schenk wrote: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=50855951 Nice changes, Andrea! We also need a 3-5 lines descriptions to appear at https://wiki.apache.org/apachecon/ACNA2015ContentCommittee I saw this request but was rather reluctant to expand it until we were sure we had enough to do a track. I'm not sure we can actually do this part. I think having the topics will probably determine the best speakers. Hopefully, these speakers will submit proposals. We can do it in phases. As usual, we are a widely distributed project and indeed it's very hard that all the most competent people for each topic are physically in the same place. For some topics we will have the best people, for some other topics we will have competent people who can still deliver a good presentation, for some we may have nobody. and those should then be removed. In any case, I would like to send out a message to our announcements and dev lists about the topics and the conference before Jan. 1 if there are no objections. The dev list is OK for a start (last time I sent a request for talk proposals to the announce list, I got several funny but useless proposals). So if we can start by finalizing the topics, then ask here if we have volunteers for each topic, we can start putting some names. Maybe with the proposed/recommended topics, useless proposals will be minimized? At any rate, the real crux of the matter is what get's submitted through the CFP. I still feel the announcements list would be valuable. Maybe we can slate the announcement for tomorrow, the 29th, with today for final changes to the proposals. Shall we add a draft announcement section to the proposals page? My feeling is we should emphasize that, even though this is being held in North America, some travel assistance IS available. And, I think it might be worth our while to try to engage graduate level students in CSCI or Software Engineering to present ideas on improvement to OpenOffice -- the futures area? Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- - MzK There's a bit of magic in everything, and some loss to even things out. -- Lou Reed
Re: OpenOffice@15 @ApacheConNA in April
On 28 December 2014 at 19:33, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Dec 27, 2014 at 3:34 PM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: On 27/12/2014 Kay Schenk wrote: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=50855951 Nice changes, Andrea! We also need a 3-5 lines descriptions to appear at https://wiki.apache.org/apachecon/ACNA2015ContentCommittee I saw this request but was rather reluctant to expand it until we were sure we had enough to do a track. I'm not sure we can actually do this part. I think having the topics will probably determine the best speakers. Hopefully, these speakers will submit proposals. We can do it in phases. As usual, we are a widely distributed project and indeed it's very hard that all the most competent people for each topic are physically in the same place. For some topics we will have the best people, for some other topics we will have competent people who can still deliver a good presentation, for some we may have nobody. and those should then be removed. In any case, I would like to send out a message to our announcements and dev lists about the topics and the conference before Jan. 1 if there are no objections. The dev list is OK for a start (last time I sent a request for talk proposals to the announce list, I got several funny but useless proposals). So if we can start by finalizing the topics, then ask here if we have volunteers for each topic, we can start putting some names. Maybe with the proposed/recommended topics, useless proposals will be minimized? At any rate, the real crux of the matter is what get's submitted through the CFP. I still feel the announcements list would be valuable. Maybe we can slate the announcement for tomorrow, the 29th, with today for final changes to the proposals. Shall we add a draft announcement section to the proposals page? My feeling is we should emphasize that, even though this is being held in North America, some travel assistance IS available. And, I think it might be worth our while to try to engage graduate level students in CSCI or Software Engineering to present ideas on improvement to OpenOffice -- the futures area? TAC is for sure available (I am on the committee), we sponsored 12 people at budapest...and I would like to see the same level for austin. In general applicant on the same continent tend to get better scores, just as an advice. I am happy to help if somebody have questions about how to fill out our forms. rgds jan I. Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- - MzK There's a bit of magic in everything, and some loss to even things out. -- Lou Reed
Re: OpenOffice@15 @ApacheConNA in April
On 12/28/2014 01:06 PM, jan i wrote: On 28 December 2014 at 19:33, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Dec 27, 2014 at 3:34 PM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: On 27/12/2014 Kay Schenk wrote: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=50855951 Nice changes, Andrea! We also need a 3-5 lines descriptions to appear at https://wiki.apache.org/apachecon/ACNA2015ContentCommittee I saw this request but was rather reluctant to expand it until we were sure we had enough to do a track. I'm not sure we can actually do this part. I think having the topics will probably determine the best speakers. Hopefully, these speakers will submit proposals. We can do it in phases. As usual, we are a widely distributed project and indeed it's very hard that all the most competent people for each topic are physically in the same place. For some topics we will have the best people, for some other topics we will have competent people who can still deliver a good presentation, for some we may have nobody. and those should then be removed. In any case, I would like to send out a message to our announcements and dev lists about the topics and the conference before Jan. 1 if there are no objections. The dev list is OK for a start (last time I sent a request for talk proposals to the announce list, I got several funny but useless proposals). So if we can start by finalizing the topics, then ask here if we have volunteers for each topic, we can start putting some names. Maybe with the proposed/recommended topics, useless proposals will be minimized? At any rate, the real crux of the matter is what get's submitted through the CFP. I still feel the announcements list would be valuable. Maybe we can slate the announcement for tomorrow, the 29th, with today for final changes to the proposals. Shall we add a draft announcement section to the proposals page? My feeling is we should emphasize that, even though this is being held in North America, some travel assistance IS available. And, I think it might be worth our while to try to engage graduate level students in CSCI or Software Engineering to present ideas on improvement to OpenOffice -- the futures area? Draft announcement text added as a comment to: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=50855951 Will be removed when the announcement is actually sent. Changes very welcome! :) TAC is for sure available (I am on the committee), we sponsored 12 people at budapest...and I would like to see the same level for austin. In general applicant on the same continent tend to get better scores, just as an advice. I am happy to help if somebody have questions about how to fill out our forms. rgds jan I. Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- - MzK There's a bit of magic in everything, and some loss to even things out. -- Lou Reed -- - MzK There's a bit of magic in everything, and some loss to even things out. -- Lou Reed - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: OpenOffice@15 @ApacheConNA in April
Hi. It seems we have a lot of focus on ACNA which is very very good.but let not forget that before that we have a little european event called FOSDEM. We as AOO should not forget that event, since it is likely to attract more AOO users than ACNA. rgds jan I. Ps. Is it about time to publish how many talks does AOO have at FOSDEM ? On 28 December 2014 at 22:57, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: On 12/28/2014 01:06 PM, jan i wrote: On 28 December 2014 at 19:33, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Dec 27, 2014 at 3:34 PM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: On 27/12/2014 Kay Schenk wrote: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=50855951 Nice changes, Andrea! We also need a 3-5 lines descriptions to appear at https://wiki.apache.org/apachecon/ACNA2015ContentCommittee I saw this request but was rather reluctant to expand it until we were sure we had enough to do a track. I'm not sure we can actually do this part. I think having the topics will probably determine the best speakers. Hopefully, these speakers will submit proposals. We can do it in phases. As usual, we are a widely distributed project and indeed it's very hard that all the most competent people for each topic are physically in the same place. For some topics we will have the best people, for some other topics we will have competent people who can still deliver a good presentation, for some we may have nobody. and those should then be removed. In any case, I would like to send out a message to our announcements and dev lists about the topics and the conference before Jan. 1 if there are no objections. The dev list is OK for a start (last time I sent a request for talk proposals to the announce list, I got several funny but useless proposals). So if we can start by finalizing the topics, then ask here if we have volunteers for each topic, we can start putting some names. Maybe with the proposed/recommended topics, useless proposals will be minimized? At any rate, the real crux of the matter is what get's submitted through the CFP. I still feel the announcements list would be valuable. Maybe we can slate the announcement for tomorrow, the 29th, with today for final changes to the proposals. Shall we add a draft announcement section to the proposals page? My feeling is we should emphasize that, even though this is being held in North America, some travel assistance IS available. And, I think it might be worth our while to try to engage graduate level students in CSCI or Software Engineering to present ideas on improvement to OpenOffice -- the futures area? Draft announcement text added as a comment to: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=50855951 Will be removed when the announcement is actually sent. Changes very welcome! :) TAC is for sure available (I am on the committee), we sponsored 12 people at budapest...and I would like to see the same level for austin. In general applicant on the same continent tend to get better scores, just as an advice. I am happy to help if somebody have questions about how to fill out our forms. rgds jan I. Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- - MzK There's a bit of magic in everything, and some loss to even things out. -- Lou Reed -- - MzK There's a bit of magic in everything, and some loss to even things out. -- Lou Reed - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: OpenOffice@15 @ApacheConNA in April
On 12/24/2014 04:17 AM, jan i wrote: On Wednesday, December 24, 2014, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: On 18/12/2014 Kay Schenk wrote: OK. I just created a page for topics. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=50855951 Please add as you desire! Maybe we can finalize this in the next few days. Thanks, I've integrated it with some other topics, based on what was useful to hear (and what was missing) in Budapest. We are now at 10 topics in https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=50855951 Nice changes, Andrea! If I understand correctly, what we are supposed to do is: list some topics that we would like to see covered, so that we can shape a balanced track. And then speakers will be asked to give priority to these topics when submitting their talks in the OpenOffice track. Jan Iversen wrote: please remember talks must be submitted to the cfp page. You mean, when someone decides that he wants to speak about a specific topic (within the ones we list, or another one, but giving priority to what we list), then the talk will have to be submitted in the conference system, right? So this will be up to the individual candidate speakers and not to the people now defining topics. yes and no, the individual speakers have to submit their own proposals, but the intention was that the program committee not only come up with suggestions, but also find speakers, so that in the end e.g. a final AOO track is made. rgds jan i I'm not sure we can actually do this part. I think having the topics will probably determine the best speakers. Hopefully, these speakers will submit proposals. Of course, PMC members will likely be the best speakers for a few of the items. In any case, I would like to send out a message to our announcements and dev lists about the topics and the conference before Jan. 1 if there are no objections. Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- - MzK There's a bit of magic in everything, and some loss to even things out. -- Lou Reed - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: OpenOffice@15 @ApacheConNA in April
On 27/12/2014 Kay Schenk wrote: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=50855951 Nice changes, Andrea! We also need a 3-5 lines descriptions to appear at https://wiki.apache.org/apachecon/ACNA2015ContentCommittee I'm not sure we can actually do this part. I think having the topics will probably determine the best speakers. Hopefully, these speakers will submit proposals. We can do it in phases. As usual, we are a widely distributed project and indeed it's very hard that all the most competent people for each topic are physically in the same place. For some topics we will have the best people, for some other topics we will have competent people who can still deliver a good presentation, for some we may have nobody. and those should then be removed. In any case, I would like to send out a message to our announcements and dev lists about the topics and the conference before Jan. 1 if there are no objections. The dev list is OK for a start (last time I sent a request for talk proposals to the announce list, I got several funny but useless proposals). So if we can start by finalizing the topics, then ask here if we have volunteers for each topic, we can start putting some names. Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: OpenOffice@15 @ApacheConNA in April
On 18/12/2014 Kay Schenk wrote: OK. I just created a page for topics. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=50855951 Please add as you desire! Maybe we can finalize this in the next few days. Thanks, I've integrated it with some other topics, based on what was useful to hear (and what was missing) in Budapest. We are now at 10 topics in https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=50855951 If I understand correctly, what we are supposed to do is: list some topics that we would like to see covered, so that we can shape a balanced track. And then speakers will be asked to give priority to these topics when submitting their talks in the OpenOffice track. Jan Iversen wrote: please remember talks must be submitted to the cfp page. You mean, when someone decides that he wants to speak about a specific topic (within the ones we list, or another one, but giving priority to what we list), then the talk will have to be submitted in the conference system, right? So this will be up to the individual candidate speakers and not to the people now defining topics. Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: OpenOffice@15 @ApacheConNA in April
On Wednesday, December 24, 2014, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: On 18/12/2014 Kay Schenk wrote: OK. I just created a page for topics. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=50855951 Please add as you desire! Maybe we can finalize this in the next few days. Thanks, I've integrated it with some other topics, based on what was useful to hear (and what was missing) in Budapest. We are now at 10 topics in https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=50855951 If I understand correctly, what we are supposed to do is: list some topics that we would like to see covered, so that we can shape a balanced track. And then speakers will be asked to give priority to these topics when submitting their talks in the OpenOffice track. Jan Iversen wrote: please remember talks must be submitted to the cfp page. You mean, when someone decides that he wants to speak about a specific topic (within the ones we list, or another one, but giving priority to what we list), then the talk will have to be submitted in the conference system, right? So this will be up to the individual candidate speakers and not to the people now defining topics. yes and no, the individual speakers have to submit their own proposals, but the intention was that the program committee not only come up with suggestions, but also find speakers, so that in the end e.g. a final AOO track is made. rgds jan i Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- Sent from My iPad, sorry for any misspellings.
Re: OpenOffice@15 @ApacheConNA in April
HI, On 16 Dec 2014, at 17:30, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: Definitely time to start discussions on ApacheConNA in April (in Austin) and OpenOffice's participation. Back in November, Rich Bowen suggested we think more about project tracks and gathering appropriate talks/topics for these tracks. See: http://markmail.org/message/mlq5njhec4daqxkt With this in mind, I thought it would be fun to highlight OpenOffice's 15 years of open source goodness (our 15 year open source anniversary date is actually Oct. 13, 2015 -- see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenOffice.org#History) Maybe talks of the following nature would be appropriate: * How did the ODF get established and why was this needed for an opensource office development project * Details on the development architecture of the suite -- how was this established with respect to ongoing maintenance? Were different considerations needed to take StarOffice to OpenOffice? * Challenges faced by open source projects/products in gaining acceptance by business enterprises. * Why downstream developers used OpenOffice source code. What did they give back. These are just a few ideas on this topic -- we need more! What does anyone think? I would like to circulate and idea list along with an invitation to submit talks/ sessions to dev, users, announcements, our social networks and anyplace else -- university contacts, etc. Considering our download stats put us at 700,000+ downloads per week, many folks know we're here. Let's hear from some of them. Let’s create a wiki on this subject and then remind the lists of deadlines, etc. Personally, I like topics that question as well as present; that don’t just preach to attendant choirs but engage the skepticism of audiences and answer the doubts, problems, and so on. Or, suggest strong solutions. By which I mean those that can actually be implemented by regular people, as well as by corporate equivalents. louis - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: OpenOffice@15 @ApacheConNA in April
On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 11:53 AM, Louis Suárez-Potts lui...@gmail.com wrote: HI, On 16 Dec 2014, at 17:30, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: Definitely time to start discussions on ApacheConNA in April (in Austin) and OpenOffice's participation. Back in November, Rich Bowen suggested we think more about project tracks and gathering appropriate talks/topics for these tracks. See: http://markmail.org/message/mlq5njhec4daqxkt With this in mind, I thought it would be fun to highlight OpenOffice's 15 years of open source goodness (our 15 year open source anniversary date is actually Oct. 13, 2015 -- see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenOffice.org#History) Maybe talks of the following nature would be appropriate: * How did the ODF get established and why was this needed for an opensource office development project * Details on the development architecture of the suite -- how was this established with respect to ongoing maintenance? Were different considerations needed to take StarOffice to OpenOffice? * Challenges faced by open source projects/products in gaining acceptance by business enterprises. * Why downstream developers used OpenOffice source code. What did they give back. These are just a few ideas on this topic -- we need more! What does anyone think? I would like to circulate and idea list along with an invitation to submit talks/ sessions to dev, users, announcements, our social networks and anyplace else -- university contacts, etc. Considering our download stats put us at 700,000+ downloads per week, many folks know we're here. Let's hear from some of them. Let’s create a wiki on this subject and then remind the lists of deadlines, etc. Personally, I like topics that question as well as present; that don’t just preach to attendant choirs but engage the skepticism of audiences and answer the doubts, problems, and so on. Or, suggest strong solutions. By which I mean those that can actually be implemented by regular people, as well as by corporate equivalents. louis OK. I just created a page for topics. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=50855951 Please add as you desire! Maybe we can finalize this in the next few days. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- - MzK There's a bit of magic in everything, and some loss to even things out. -- Lou Reed
OpenOffice@15 @ApacheConNA in April
Definitely time to start discussions on ApacheConNA in April (in Austin) and OpenOffice's participation. Back in November, Rich Bowen suggested we think more about project tracks and gathering appropriate talks/topics for these tracks. See: http://markmail.org/message/mlq5njhec4daqxkt With this in mind, I thought it would be fun to highlight OpenOffice's 15 years of open source goodness (our 15 year open source anniversary date is actually Oct. 13, 2015 -- see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenOffice.org#History) Maybe talks of the following nature would be appropriate: * How did the ODF get established and why was this needed for an opensource office development project * Details on the development architecture of the suite -- how was this established with respect to ongoing maintenance? Were different considerations needed to take StarOffice to OpenOffice? * Challenges faced by open source projects/products in gaining acceptance by business enterprises. * Why downstream developers used OpenOffice source code. What did they give back. These are just a few ideas on this topic -- we need more! What does anyone think? I would like to circulate and idea list along with an invitation to submit talks/ sessions to dev, users, announcements, our social networks and anyplace else -- university contacts, etc. Considering our download stats put us at 700,000+ downloads per week, many folks know we're here. Let's hear from some of them. -- - MzK There's a bit of magic in everything, and some loss to even things out. -- Lou Reed - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: OpenOffice@15 @ApacheConNA in April
On Tuesday, December 16, 2014, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: Definitely time to start discussions on ApacheConNA in April (in Austin) and OpenOffice's participation. Back in November, Rich Bowen suggested we think more about project tracks and gathering appropriate talks/topics for these tracks. See: http://markmail.org/message/mlq5njhec4daqxkt With this in mind, I thought it would be fun to highlight OpenOffice's 15 years of open source goodness (our 15 year open source anniversary date is actually Oct. 13, 2015 -- see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenOffice.org#History) +1 good idea. Maybe talks of the following nature would be appropriate: * How did the ODF get established and why was this needed for an opensource office development project * Details on the development architecture of the suite -- how was this established with respect to ongoing maintenance? Were different considerations needed to take StarOffice to OpenOffice? * Challenges faced by open source projects/products in gaining acceptance by business enterprises. * Why downstream developers used OpenOffice source code. What did they give back. a perspective of our first 15years and an outlook for the future How will desktop based office systems adopt to responsive design in mobile devices why is openoffice important for document standards outlook for AOO 2015 and beyond These are just a few ideas on this topic -- we need more! What does anyone think? I would like to circulate and idea list along with an invitation to submit talks/ sessions to dev, users, announcements, our social networks and anyplace else -- university contacts, etc. please remember talks must be submitted to the cfp page. thanks for taking the initative rgds jan i Considering our download stats put us at 700,000+ downloads per week, many folks know we're here. Let's hear from some of them. -- - MzK There's a bit of magic in everything, and some loss to even things out. -- Lou Reed - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org javascript:; For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org javascript:; -- Sent from My iPad, sorry for any misspellings.
