Re: Bug in AOO 3.4.1 on the Fedora 18
On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 9:13 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile arie...@apache.org wrote: It's not enough to remove LO, at least in all previous fedora versions, you have to blacklist lo in /etc/yum.conf with a line exclude=libreoffice* Sorry for nitpicking. But should this be automated as part of the install? maybe show a little dialog saying we´ve detected that your system is configured to use a piece of software that is incompatible with AOO. Want the installer to automatically disable it so that AOO can install? [Yes/No] The curse of the Linux world is the tutorials that tell users how to do things by editing certain files, and installers that, having known for years that such manual procedures are required, do not make the slightest effort to automate the process. FC -- During times of Universal Deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act Durante épocas de Engaño Universal, decir la verdad se convierte en un Acto Revolucionario - George Orwell
Re: Bug in AOO 3.4.1 on the Fedora 18
2013/1/24 Fernando Cassia fcas...@gmail.com On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 9:13 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile arie...@apache.org wrote: It's not enough to remove LO, at least in all previous fedora versions, you have to blacklist lo in /etc/yum.conf with a line exclude=libreoffice* Sorry for nitpicking. But should this be automated as part of the install? maybe show a little dialog saying we´ve detected that your system is configured to use a piece of software that is incompatible with AOO. Want the installer to automatically disable it so that AOO can install? [Yes/No] The problem is not LibO, but the modified LibO version delivered by Fedora. AOO and the official build of LibO can live together without problems. But first of all, removing other's software is not a nice action... The curse of the Linux world is the tutorials that tell users how to do things by editing certain files, and installers that, having known for years that such manual procedures are required, do not make the slightest effort to automate the process. That's depends on the distro: openSUSE and Mandriva makes those thing quite easy. I cannot remember the last time I manually edited a config file. Regards Ricardo FC -- During times of Universal Deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act Durante épocas de Engaño Universal, decir la verdad se convierte en un Acto Revolucionario - George Orwell
Re: Bug in AOO 3.4.1 on the Fedora 18
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 1/23/13 1:13 AM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote: On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 09:38:39PM -0200, Albino Biasutti Neto wrote: Hi 2013/1/22 Ariel Constenla-Haile arie...@apache.org: I don't have a fedora18 to test right now, but installing OpenOffice in fedora requires to blacklist LO. If you didn't so, then it might happen that your installation is broken. The first command in fedora 18 was yum remove libreoffice-* ;-) It's not enough to remove LO, at least in all previous fedora versions, you have to blacklist lo in /etc/yum.conf with a line exclude=libreoffice* otherwise, when updating lo's ure will obsolete aoo-ure, and thus replace it. I think this is one further reason to eliminate the dump 3 layer directory structure which is totally obsolete and make things only complicate. Currently we have the URE, basis and brand layer which is the result of some cleaver thinking of some product managers to have multiple offices installed on the same machine. Multiple offices that are based on OpenOffice and are only different in the brand layer. I think a scenario which is very seldom and if somebody need it, it should be fine to duplicate the file. The best time would be now for 4.0 but I see a timing problem. I will start a new thread where we can start a discussion on this topic and maybe some interested people want to join such a cleanup effort. New thread is on the way ... please continue in the new thread. Juergen -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.17 (Darwin) Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJQ/5mAAAoJEM/u8xZRtf3oC8YP+gOc4zCaUGzpnssYHpqawl9Z CAWljbLPBauE6JAtkZOaLTYx9hNQc4Tu1ivIouT9GJ+WJ/OXvYJTbmf/sBD+ATPE nAiwvlTPfrgiU0KN+CtFoaPxDuRSfxJbnFx7SOKF23Xin3vLcvlKWcPjqqoWBuEO NpNH/1WqH7QqxnB+XSZACluS6YWm6cHuhWKzOPHbor1zQh7OGSL+avvP9YQ8puHv wTGa5vaigX8MVdV6lUFPQC+DemF2xJEsHgkpa3ZaQ19FFwWbdxKF00XcdBwKmTEz LhgqRMiFIdz0h3kwMv17ZIWuo7+SKC6bxD3jJc5XYTNbree86k24mfKa2r4/WakR cCTHz8GH5RrFGWgtHhCHNHHKBHanMPDNJa1nDHzjQMwp/7r/6zdwmbmgZ8dP2jWD BRxtiNikYfDFQoj3v7M1PVtj0EmeINH6f8IN5lE+CYR9fx6PLIhfTJTJbA6gwFpJ oLdzig7L50kCJn7rX5BNja52iD00XJgk+kHs2bqhVJ0e0aQGOdkqdQS77DsKyaQx zcFXXbm4Rg6tRIWKmEySQ7MsOcZNDRhcpyEeSigt2iHUWpBXlcrZK0iwOuXSwOA4 06N4Usjamx9h5zbQDcJZrpJDC86wER9mPa5YoLdP3nHOdw/OsDKCLSm9t6JaKjc1 bs58qy0/y9YQk1aLdPUZ =FsJE -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Bug in AOO 3.4.1 on the Fedora 18
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 1/23/13 9:04 AM, Jrgen Schmidt wrote: On 1/23/13 1:13 AM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote: On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 09:38:39PM -0200, Albino Biasutti Neto wrote: Hi 2013/1/22 Ariel Constenla-Haile arie...@apache.org: I don't have a fedora18 to test right now, but installing OpenOffice in fedora requires to blacklist LO. If you didn't so, then it might happen that your installation is broken. The first command in fedora 18 was yum remove libreoffice-* ;-) It's not enough to remove LO, at least in all previous fedora versions, you have to blacklist lo in /etc/yum.conf with a line exclude=libreoffice* otherwise, when updating lo's ure will obsolete aoo-ure, and thus replace it. I think this is one further reason to eliminate the dump 3 layer dump = dumb directory structure which is totally obsolete and make things only complicate. Currently we have the URE, basis and brand layer which is the result of some cleaver thinking of some product managers to have multiple cleaver = clever I need more coffee ;-) offices installed on the same machine. Multiple offices that are based on OpenOffice and are only different in the brand layer. I think a scenario which is very seldom and if somebody need it, it should be fine to duplicate the file. The best time would be now for 4.0 but I see a timing problem. I will start a new thread where we can start a discussion on this topic and maybe some interested people want to join such a cleanup effort. New thread is on the way ... please continue in the new thread. Juergen -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.17 (Darwin) Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJQ/5p7AAoJEM/u8xZRtf3oKvIP/R2eWBMbd8O6XO1gzvj3hIhy wpWMLvDy9LT7/ZaPX7Slsy9PeHDNKR8H+N8ooSuyohHE1rSyhLE6VtDJHvOieO18 CS+KIktSB7n2mCM5OPyW0NTC7G5YSAAELaJvEhd6UimTE8vsCaVSArIbT/KvzRkC 3cbqUUlYAZi8GXG8gbPY65s0HlqeZmBM6dwPR8kD/gdXm+RZLZB0AhhIyktUl+TQ keto2TQp5L3JhL46Sj5ezsHXSVN3W4/YWQRgNv6ucvKnIMUe/GWgooT8Khs//RA+ 26vl4Um4AHpm80UmGN50WB6G4yMUw77KguwYgcm7Pp8zI5btxfyNEJEj3/nQdYu8 KLaIeH250EVWNe6scmKn+EHRee6wqvHR61i5l2bQOKXabLcs9OR19wt4ufCXJ33N VigEfzXTYLciHI4dKm1jRwTpx+R16aFn3B6E1lbx0eUHOVFidJxJKEBWchG9NJA/ HM+LbMFHKTiYWUl/njesskISkKZ7Jb8Pg5VKvnkn99OPNQQZJEypVVEgTcDhrt4Q 0aUEHT8xCImiDCIJQoVqZNHfjxQAG5djFLQ9EJ8HmGjlNuL2T9Orwm2dfkUPxbJs gYZUIyjYw0erZ+TSwbsezR+2Jj+v/12nbDMwRkT+18Y5tK1hferS92cbRNbCXR8c p1vGci0i3qi+2/6i/HLY =Pwuy -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Bug in AOO 3.4.1 on the Fedora 18
On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 03:49:15PM -0200, Albino Biasutti Neto wrote: I am using Fedora 18 and AOO 3.4.1 Realizing that the AOO is crashing to do several things: word of correction, close the page, open the AOO own. That's just me or a bug to be fixed? I don't have a fedora18 to test right now, but installing OpenOffice in fedora requires to blacklist LO. If you didn't so, then it might happen that your installation is broken. Try running AOO from the command line, and see the output when it crashes, it might give a clue. Regards -- Ariel Constenla-Haile La Plata, Argentina pgpiEqGZlDVyk.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Bug in AOO 3.4.1 on the Fedora 18
On 01/22/2013 03:38 PM, Albino Biasutti Neto wrote: Hi 2013/1/22 Ariel Constenla-Haile arie...@apache.org: I don't have a fedora18 to test right now, but installing OpenOffice in fedora requires to blacklist LO. If you didn't so, then it might happen that your installation is broken. The first command in fedora 18 was yum remove libreoffice-* ;-) Try running AOO from the command line, and see the output when it crashes, it might give a clue. I reboot in the pc, it seems to me better. Albino Albino-- I don't use Fedora, but we have a link to How to Install on Fedora 16/17 that might be of use on the Linux install doc on the wiki: http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/FAQ/Installation/How_do_I_install_OpenOffice.org_on_Linux%3F -- MzK No act of kindness, no matter how small, is ever wasted. -- Aesop
Re: Bug in AOO 3.4.1 on the Fedora 18
On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 09:38:39PM -0200, Albino Biasutti Neto wrote: Hi 2013/1/22 Ariel Constenla-Haile arie...@apache.org: I don't have a fedora18 to test right now, but installing OpenOffice in fedora requires to blacklist LO. If you didn't so, then it might happen that your installation is broken. The first command in fedora 18 was yum remove libreoffice-* ;-) It's not enough to remove LO, at least in all previous fedora versions, you have to blacklist lo in /etc/yum.conf with a line exclude=libreoffice* otherwise, when updating lo's ure will obsolete aoo-ure, and thus replace it. Regards -- Ariel Constenla-Haile La Plata, Argentina pgpYodXitXvh7.pgp Description: PGP signature
