Re: Forum vm reconfiguration.
On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 5:56 AM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: Hagar Delest wrote: We should focus first on the forum maintenance, this was the initial target of this thread. Decorum can wait. The header has never been changed after the move to ASF servers so it's not a priority. It is still a change that should be done sooner or later, and the people involved are different from those involved with the system maintenance. So, while I agree that this is not the thread for it, I recommend that a discussion is started on the forum to get some feedback on the proposals we have: https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122998 Remember, a consistent branding is a big strength for this project. There are countless scam or dubious sites around, and using the right branding on our sites can help users in recognizing the official sites, even though active community members do not need it. And I'd also note that forum volunteers participated in the discussions and voting that lead to the new 4.0 logo, so their views have been accounted for throughout this process. -Rob Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Forum vm reconfiguration.
On 11 August 2013 00:40, Larry Gusaas larry.gus...@gmail.com wrote: On 2013-08-10 3:17 PM janI wrote: On 10 August 2013 23:01, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: I include one wit the Orb for the forum as well as the wiki: https://issues.apache.org/ooo/**show_bug.cgi?id=122998https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122998I didn't want to go with a monochrome since I think it makes it too plain to the light blues that the forum had. Instead I did replace the eagles with the orb. As for the wiki, it should replace the file http://wiki.openoffice.org/w/**skins/aoo/header.pnghttp://wiki.openoffice.org/w/skins/aoo/header.png great job I like it. If we make more space on the top in forum (which is easy to do), we could use the wiki header for forum as well (of course with the text forum instead of wiki. Users of wiki and forum are highly identical so they should have identical experience. rgds jan I. Shouldn't you discuss this on the forum to see what the forum users want? Previous changes were discussed there, not imposed from outside the forum. I agree that is should be discussed on the forum, and now that is has been announced on the list I hope it will be discussed. But please remember all decisions are made on the mailling list in accordance with the apache way therefore we need to discuss it on the list as well. rgds jan I. -- __**___ Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada Website: http://larry-gusaas.com An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs. - Edgard Varese --**--**- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.**apache.orgdev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Forum vm reconfiguration.
On 2013-08-11 1:27 AM janI wrote: On 11 August 2013 00:40, Larry Gusaas larry.gus...@gmail.com wrote: Shouldn't you discuss this on the forum to see what the forum users want? Previous changes were discussed there, not imposed from outside the forum. I agree that is should be discussed on the forum, and now that is has been announced on the list I hope it will be discussed. I haven't seen anyone starting a thread on the forum asking for input about changes to the header. But please remember all decisions are made on the mailling list in accordance with the apache way therefore we need to discuss it on the list as well. Did I suggest otherwise? Where was the discussion about changing the header before designs were uploaded? Here was the original post on this subject: I wonder why the header is not the 'official' logo of AOO. I generated a couple of headers using the SVG logo typeset and colors, choose which one to use. Is that the Apache way? -- _ Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada Website: http://larry-gusaas.com An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs. - Edgard Varese - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Forum vm reconfiguration.
On 11 August 2013 10:05, Larry Gusaas larry.gus...@gmail.com wrote: On 2013-08-11 1:27 AM janI wrote: On 11 August 2013 00:40, Larry Gusaas larry.gus...@gmail.com wrote: Shouldn't you discuss this on the forum to see what the forum users want? Previous changes were discussed there, not imposed from outside the forum. I agree that is should be discussed on the forum, and now that is has been announced on the list I hope it will be discussed. I haven't seen anyone starting a thread on the forum asking for input about changes to the header. Ok, but does it really matter if the discussion starts here or on the forum ? To me its important that we discuss it, reach consensus and move ahead. I am f.x. one that are not active on the forum, but still work to make sure all our services have a common look feel (and also maintain our servers to make sure all our users have a good experience). I feel its important that wiki, forum and www have similar look so users dont get confused, but it is just my opinion. But please remember all decisions are made on the mailling list in accordance with the apache way therefore we need to discuss it on the list as well. Did I suggest otherwise? Where was the discussion about changing the header before designs were uploaded? Here was the original post on this subject: I wonder why the header is not the 'official' logo of AOO. I generated a couple of headers using the SVG logo typeset and colors, choose which one to use. Is that the Apache way? First of all neither forum header nor wiki header have not been uploaded, it awaits lazy consensus on this thread. Uploading the headers without consensus would really not be the apache way. The current set of suggestions are quite different from the first set, and are of course open for discussion, but taking imitative and proposing a change, is in my opinion the apache way. To be fair the start of the discussion comes from the unstable forum which we try to stabilize, and while doing do so it is natural that people look to see what else could/should be changed. I expect other changes when we upgrade the different software packages (like phpBB itself). Take this as an opportunity, its the first time in several years, that the forum is being deeply maintained and undergo changes. Its quite possible that we cannot implement all ideas (after consensus), but having open BZ issues makes it possible to make the changes as resources become available. rgds jan I. -- _ Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada Website: http://larry-gusaas.com An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs. - Edgard Varese - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Forum vm reconfiguration.
On 11 August 2013 10:49, Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote: On Sun, 11 Aug 2013 10:41:47 +0200 janI j...@apache.org wrote: On 11 August 2013 10:05, Larry Gusaas larry.gus...@gmail.com wrote: On 2013-08-11 1:27 AM janI wrote: On 11 August 2013 00:40, Larry Gusaas larry.gus...@gmail.com wrote: Shouldn't you discuss this on the forum to see what the forum users want? Previous changes were discussed there, not imposed from outside the forum. I agree that is should be discussed on the forum, and now that is has been announced on the list I hope it will be discussed. I haven't seen anyone starting a thread on the forum asking for input about changes to the header. Ok, but does it really matter if the discussion starts here or on the forum ? To me its important that we discuss it, reach consensus and move ahead. I am f.x. one that are not active on the forum, but still work to make sure all our services have a common look feel (and also maintain our servers to make sure all our users have a good experience). I feel its important that wiki, forum and www have similar look so users dont get confused, but it is just my opinion. But please remember all decisions are made on the mailling list in accordance with the apache way therefore we need to discuss it on the list as well. Did I suggest otherwise? Where was the discussion about changing the header before designs were uploaded? Here was the original post on this subject: I wonder why the header is not the 'official' logo of AOO. I generated a couple of headers using the SVG logo typeset and colors, choose which one to use. Is that the Apache way? First of all neither forum header nor wiki header have not been uploaded, it awaits lazy consensus on this thread. Uploading the headers without consensus would really not be the apache way. The current set of suggestions are quite different from the first set, and are of course open for discussion, but taking imitative and proposing a change, is in my opinion the apache way. To be fair the start of the discussion comes from the unstable forum which we try to stabilize, and while doing do so it is natural that people look to see what else could/should be changed. I expect other changes when we upgrade the different software packages (like phpBB itself). Take this as an opportunity, its the first time in several years, that the forum is being deeply maintained and undergo changes. Its quite possible that we cannot implement all ideas (after consensus), but having open BZ issues makes it possible to make the changes as resources become available. rgds jan I. -- _ Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada Website: http://larry-gusaas.com An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs. - Edgard Varese The application of consistent house styling ought not be a major concern, once the decision has been made to use such house styling for a project. More important is getting the Forum(s) stable before back to school/college demand ups the traffic to a peak. If janI is coming to grips with the software situation, the styling will be a relatively easy tweak at any time. [And many thanks, janI, keep up the good work!] It is quite possible that the intermittent Forum availability and the lack of AOO 4.0 in Forum signature has hindered takeup of AOO 4.0. thx for your kind words, arist did a good job on getting the cpu load down and I will continue with upgrades during the week. I have been looking for hint where the signature is being configured, but it seems I look in the wrong places or use wrong words. Do you have a clue where its configured ? rgds jan I. -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Forum vm reconfiguration.
+1. We should focus first on the forum maintenance, this was the initial target of this thread. Decorum can wait. The header has never been changed after the move to ASF servers so it's not a priority. Hagar Le 11/08/2013 10:49, Rory O'Farrell a écrit : On Sun, 11 Aug 2013 10:41:47 +0200 janI j...@apache.org wrote: On 11 August 2013 10:05, Larry Gusaas larry.gus...@gmail.com wrote: On 2013-08-11 1:27 AM janI wrote: On 11 August 2013 00:40, Larry Gusaas larry.gus...@gmail.com wrote: Shouldn't you discuss this on the forum to see what the forum users want? Previous changes were discussed there, not imposed from outside the forum. I agree that is should be discussed on the forum, and now that is has been announced on the list I hope it will be discussed. I haven't seen anyone starting a thread on the forum asking for input about changes to the header. Ok, but does it really matter if the discussion starts here or on the forum ? To me its important that we discuss it, reach consensus and move ahead. I am f.x. one that are not active on the forum, but still work to make sure all our services have a common look feel (and also maintain our servers to make sure all our users have a good experience). I feel its important that wiki, forum and www have similar look so users dont get confused, but it is just my opinion. But please remember all decisions are made on the mailling list in accordance with the apache way therefore we need to discuss it on the list as well. Did I suggest otherwise? Where was the discussion about changing the header before designs were uploaded? Here was the original post on this subject: I wonder why the header is not the 'official' logo of AOO. I generated a couple of headers using the SVG logo typeset and colors, choose which one to use. Is that the Apache way? First of all neither forum header nor wiki header have not been uploaded, it awaits lazy consensus on this thread. Uploading the headers without consensus would really not be the apache way. The current set of suggestions are quite different from the first set, and are of course open for discussion, but taking imitative and proposing a change, is in my opinion the apache way. To be fair the start of the discussion comes from the unstable forum which we try to stabilize, and while doing do so it is natural that people look to see what else could/should be changed. I expect other changes when we upgrade the different software packages (like phpBB itself). Take this as an opportunity, its the first time in several years, that the forum is being deeply maintained and undergo changes. Its quite possible that we cannot implement all ideas (after consensus), but having open BZ issues makes it possible to make the changes as resources become available. rgds jan I. -- _ Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada Website: http://larry-gusaas.com An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs. - Edgard Varese The application of consistent house styling ought not be a major concern, once the decision has been made to use such house styling for a project. More important is getting the Forum(s) stable before back to school/college demand ups the traffic to a peak. If janI is coming to grips with the software situation, the styling will be a relatively easy tweak at any time. [And many thanks, janI, keep up the good work!] It is quite possible that the intermittent Forum availability and the lack of AOO 4.0 in Forum signature has hindered takeup of AOO 4.0. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Forum vm reconfiguration.
On Sun, 11 Aug 2013 10:53:56 +0200 janI j...@apache.org wrote: On 11 August 2013 10:49, Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote: On Sun, 11 Aug 2013 10:41:47 +0200 janI j...@apache.org wrote: On 11 August 2013 10:05, Larry Gusaas larry.gus...@gmail.com wrote: On 2013-08-11 1:27 AM janI wrote: On 11 August 2013 00:40, Larry Gusaas larry.gus...@gmail.com wrote: Shouldn't you discuss this on the forum to see what the forum users want? Previous changes were discussed there, not imposed from outside the forum. I agree that is should be discussed on the forum, and now that is has been announced on the list I hope it will be discussed. I haven't seen anyone starting a thread on the forum asking for input about changes to the header. Ok, but does it really matter if the discussion starts here or on the forum ? To me its important that we discuss it, reach consensus and move ahead. I am f.x. one that are not active on the forum, but still work to make sure all our services have a common look feel (and also maintain our servers to make sure all our users have a good experience). I feel its important that wiki, forum and www have similar look so users dont get confused, but it is just my opinion. But please remember all decisions are made on the mailling list in accordance with the apache way therefore we need to discuss it on the list as well. Did I suggest otherwise? Where was the discussion about changing the header before designs were uploaded? Here was the original post on this subject: I wonder why the header is not the 'official' logo of AOO. I generated a couple of headers using the SVG logo typeset and colors, choose which one to use. Is that the Apache way? First of all neither forum header nor wiki header have not been uploaded, it awaits lazy consensus on this thread. Uploading the headers without consensus would really not be the apache way. The current set of suggestions are quite different from the first set, and are of course open for discussion, but taking imitative and proposing a change, is in my opinion the apache way. To be fair the start of the discussion comes from the unstable forum which we try to stabilize, and while doing do so it is natural that people look to see what else could/should be changed. I expect other changes when we upgrade the different software packages (like phpBB itself). Take this as an opportunity, its the first time in several years, that the forum is being deeply maintained and undergo changes. Its quite possible that we cannot implement all ideas (after consensus), but having open BZ issues makes it possible to make the changes as resources become available. rgds jan I. -- _ Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada Website: http://larry-gusaas.com An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs. - Edgard Varese The application of consistent house styling ought not be a major concern, once the decision has been made to use such house styling for a project. More important is getting the Forum(s) stable before back to school/college demand ups the traffic to a peak. If janI is coming to grips with the software situation, the styling will be a relatively easy tweak at any time. [And many thanks, janI, keep up the good work!] It is quite possible that the intermittent Forum availability and the lack of AOO 4.0 in Forum signature has hindered takeup of AOO 4.0. thx for your kind words, arist did a good job on getting the cpu load down and I will continue with upgrades during the week. I have been looking for hint where the signature is being configured, but it seems I look in the wrong places or use wrong words. Do you have a clue where its configured ? rgds jan I. It is so long since I registered on the Forum that I can't remember with any certainty. It must be in the initial registration module. I suggest you try a search for NeoOffice in that module, as there is a default signature line incorporating that word which ought not return too many hits. Hagar may know more. -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Forum vm reconfiguration.
On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 4:05 AM, Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote: On Sun, 11 Aug 2013 10:53:56 +0200 janI j...@apache.org wrote: On 11 August 2013 10:49, Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote: On Sun, 11 Aug 2013 10:41:47 +0200 janI j...@apache.org wrote: On 11 August 2013 10:05, Larry Gusaas larry.gus...@gmail.com wrote: On 2013-08-11 1:27 AM janI wrote: On 11 August 2013 00:40, Larry Gusaas larry.gus...@gmail.com wrote: Shouldn't you discuss this on the forum to see what the forum users want? Previous changes were discussed there, not imposed from outside the forum. I agree that is should be discussed on the forum, and now that is has been announced on the list I hope it will be discussed. I haven't seen anyone starting a thread on the forum asking for input about changes to the header. Ok, but does it really matter if the discussion starts here or on the forum ? To me its important that we discuss it, reach consensus and move ahead. I am f.x. one that are not active on the forum, but still work to make sure all our services have a common look feel (and also maintain our servers to make sure all our users have a good experience). I feel its important that wiki, forum and www have similar look so users dont get confused, but it is just my opinion. But please remember all decisions are made on the mailling list in accordance with the apache way therefore we need to discuss it on the list as well. Did I suggest otherwise? Where was the discussion about changing the header before designs were uploaded? Here was the original post on this subject: I wonder why the header is not the 'official' logo of AOO. I generated a couple of headers using the SVG logo typeset and colors, choose which one to use. Is that the Apache way? First of all neither forum header nor wiki header have not been uploaded, it awaits lazy consensus on this thread. Uploading the headers without consensus would really not be the apache way. The current set of suggestions are quite different from the first set, and are of course open for discussion, but taking imitative and proposing a change, is in my opinion the apache way. To be fair the start of the discussion comes from the unstable forum which we try to stabilize, and while doing do so it is natural that people look to see what else could/should be changed. I expect other changes when we upgrade the different software packages (like phpBB itself). Take this as an opportunity, its the first time in several years, that the forum is being deeply maintained and undergo changes. Its quite possible that we cannot implement all ideas (after consensus), but having open BZ issues makes it possible to make the changes as resources become available. rgds jan I. -- _ Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada Website: http://larry-gusaas.com An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs. - Edgard Varese The application of consistent house styling ought not be a major concern, once the decision has been made to use such house styling for a project. More important is getting the Forum(s) stable before back to school/college demand ups the traffic to a peak. If janI is coming to grips with the software situation, the styling will be a relatively easy tweak at any time. [And many thanks, janI, keep up the good work!] It is quite possible that the intermittent Forum availability and the lack of AOO 4.0 in Forum signature has hindered takeup of AOO 4.0. thx for your kind words, arist did a good job on getting the cpu load down and I will continue with upgrades during the week. I have been looking for hint where the signature is being configured, but it seems I look in the wrong places or use wrong words. Do you have a clue where its configured ? rgds jan I. It is so long since I registered on the Forum that I can't remember with any certainty. It must be in the initial registration module. I suggest you try a search for NeoOffice in that module, as there is a default signature line incorporating that word which ought not return too many hits. Right now everything should be updated, the new logo and branding guidelines were already discussed and agreed upon. This not only means forum, but wiki, extensions, blogs, www, openoffice.apache and other minor oo sites (i.e. forum index page). Most of them are already updated. Some are still lagging. Not sure which is the hold up regarding not conforming with the branding guidelines. Hagar may know more. -- Rory O'Farrell
Re: Forum vm reconfiguration.
Hagar Delest wrote: We should focus first on the forum maintenance, this was the initial target of this thread. Decorum can wait. The header has never been changed after the move to ASF servers so it's not a priority. It is still a change that should be done sooner or later, and the people involved are different from those involved with the system maintenance. So, while I agree that this is not the thread for it, I recommend that a discussion is started on the forum to get some feedback on the proposals we have: https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122998 Remember, a consistent branding is a big strength for this project. There are countless scam or dubious sites around, and using the right branding on our sites can help users in recognizing the official sites, even though active community members do not need it. Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Forum vm reconfiguration.
janI wrote:
MEMORY USAGE
Max Memory Ever Allocated : 19.02 G
Configured Max Per-thread Buffers : 27.46 G
Configured Max Global Buffers : 640 M
Configured Max Memory Limit : 28.09 G
Physical Memory : 1.96 G
-- Max memory limit exceeds 90% of physical memory, increase phys mem.
I can't say to be an expert (and I may be badly reading these number,
that's nothing new :P), but that seems a lot of memory for a forum.
I mean, I have seen that scale (20+ GB) only on a forum with a database
the size of 40+ GB (with some 4/5/600 users online simultaneously).
The current db size of the en forum (judging by the number of posts)
should be around... ~1/1.5 GB. And summing up all the other forums you'd
have no more than 2 or 3 GB.
Okay, a couple of GB of physical memory may be not much to handle all of
them, but 20+ seems a lot.
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Re: Forum vm reconfiguration.
On 10 August 2013 14:34, Emanuele emanuel...@gmail.com wrote: janI wrote: MEMORY USAGE Max Memory Ever Allocated : 19.02 G Configured Max Per-thread Buffers : 27.46 G Configured Max Global Buffers : 640 M Configured Max Memory Limit : 28.09 G Physical Memory : 1.96 G -- Max memory limit exceeds 90% of physical memory, increase phys mem. I can't say to be an expert (and I may be badly reading these number, that's nothing new :P), but that seems a lot of memory for a forum. I mean, I have seen that scale (20+ GB) only on a forum with a database the size of 40+ GB (with some 4/5/600 users online simultaneously). The current db size of the en forum (judging by the number of posts) should be around... ~1/1.5 GB. And summing up all the other forums you'd have no more than 2 or 3 GB. Okay, a couple of GB of physical memory may be not much to handle all of them, but 20+ seems a lot. thanks for your mail, the db size of all forums (different languages) is about 700Gb on disk. when you compare 20+ with a couple of GB of physical memory, you compare virtual memory with physical memory, that kind of difficult to do. We need more phys memory on the system, actually the virtual memory (swap) is big enough. rgds jan I. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Forum vm reconfiguration.
On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 3:29 PM, janI j...@apache.org wrote: On 10 August 2013 21:06, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: On 09/08/2013 Alexandro Colorado wrote: On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 3:03 PM, Juergen Schmidt wrote: http://imagebin.org/267011 http://imagebin.org/267012 Is it possible that you work on your own and don't communicate with others here on the list? This images are not known, not discussed, not approved not anything... Why should they be used at all? Actually, Alexandro's suggestion is not worse than what we have now. It is meant to replace the (now outdated and honestly out of any OpenOffice branding guidelines) forum header, see http://forum.openoffice.org/** en/forum/ http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/ with something that at least uses the correct logo. If we are to use them (or others), then please mail the final prepared files to my private mail, at the moment we do not have forum html changes in svn, something I will remedy. I think its good when something is done, and I hope alexandro will modify his work according to the suggestion below, show it on the list, and we can integrate. Thx alexandro for taking initative. One thought, should we not try to make mwiki and forum header identical, it is used by the same users. I include one wit the Orb for the forum as well as the wiki: https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122998 I didn't want to go with a monochrome since I think it makes it too plain to the light blues that the forum had. Instead I did replace the eagles with the orb. As for the wiki, it should replace the file http://wiki.openoffice.org/w/skins/aoo/header.png Not sure what are you talking about. AFAIK the current images from the forum header are pretty different from the logo. I talked about this with imacat a while ago, but nothing really was done at the time. With the new logo, it's best to remove all the extra elements (seagulls or eagles?) from the forums header. Perhaps the right thing to do would be to have a monochrome variant (white in this case, since the background is blue) of the official logo, the one at http://svn.apache.org/repos/** asf/openoffice/branding/ http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/branding/, that looks nice in the forum header. It will be quite tricky to get the orb right, since it would be blue on blue... I would prefer something that contained one of our branding logos, but I have no special opinions. rgds jan I Regards, Andrea. --**--**- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.**apache.org dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org
Re: Forum vm reconfiguration.
On 2013-08-10 3:17 PM janI wrote: On 10 August 2013 23:01, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: I include one wit the Orb for the forum as well as the wiki: https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122998 I didn't want to go with a monochrome since I think it makes it too plain to the light blues that the forum had. Instead I did replace the eagles with the orb. As for the wiki, it should replace the file http://wiki.openoffice.org/w/skins/aoo/header.png great job I like it. If we make more space on the top in forum (which is easy to do), we could use the wiki header for forum as well (of course with the text forum instead of wiki. Users of wiki and forum are highly identical so they should have identical experience. rgds jan I. Shouldn't you discuss this on the forum to see what the forum users want? Previous changes were discussed there, not imposed from outside the forum. -- _ Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada Website: http://larry-gusaas.com An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs. - Edgard Varese - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Forum vm reconfiguration.
As of the time of this mail, the forum vm has been reconfigured to cope with a higher load. No change for french forum, we still have error 1040. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Forum vm reconfiguration.
On 9 August 2013 11:05, FR web forum ooofo...@free.fr wrote: As of the time of this mail, the forum vm has been reconfigured to cope with a higher load. No change for french forum, we still have error 1040. Apologies for my joke about snails, the vm is slower than a sleeping snail. All forums are handled identically, we dont have a phpBB running pr forum, so every forum must be experiencing this. It seems at the moment the vm is swapping itself to a slow death. I will be on it, in max 30 minutes. thx for the report. rgds jan I. rgds jan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Forum vm reconfiguration.
On 9 August 2013 11:16, janI j...@apache.org wrote: On 9 August 2013 11:05, FR web forum ooofo...@free.fr wrote: As of the time of this mail, the forum vm has been reconfigured to cope with a higher load. No change for french forum, we still have error 1040. Apologies for my joke about snails, the vm is slower than a sleeping snail. All forums are handled identically, we dont have a phpBB running pr forum, so every forum must be experiencing this. It seems at the moment the vm is swapping itself to a slow death. I will be on it, in max 30 minutes. This should help a bit more (I hope). At least I get no errors now. rgds jan I. thx for the report. rgds jan I. rgds jan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Forum vm reconfiguration.
On Fri, 9 Aug 2013 11:16:15 +0200 janI j...@apache.org wrote: On 9 August 2013 11:05, FR web forum ooofo...@free.fr wrote: As of the time of this mail, the forum vm has been reconfigured to cope with a higher load. No change for french forum, we still have error 1040. Apologies for my joke about snails, the vm is slower than a sleeping snail. All forums are handled identically, we dont have a phpBB running pr forum, so every forum must be experiencing this. It seems at the moment the vm is swapping itself to a slow death. I will be on it, in max 30 minutes. For information: en-Forum still out at 12:35 UTC+1. -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Forum vm reconfiguration.
On Fri, 9 Aug 2013 12:40:25 +0100 Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote: On Fri, 9 Aug 2013 11:16:15 +0200 janI j...@apache.org wrote: On 9 August 2013 11:05, FR web forum ooofo...@free.fr wrote: As of the time of this mail, the forum vm has been reconfigured to cope with a higher load. No change for french forum, we still have error 1040. Apologies for my joke about snails, the vm is slower than a sleeping snail. All forums are handled identically, we dont have a phpBB running pr forum, so every forum must be experiencing this. It seems at the moment the vm is swapping itself to a slow death. I will be on it, in max 30 minutes. For information: en-Forum still out at 12:35 UTC+1. -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie It's back, but slooow! -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Forum vm reconfiguration.
On 9 August 2013 13:43, Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote: On Fri, 9 Aug 2013 12:40:25 +0100 Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote: On Fri, 9 Aug 2013 11:16:15 +0200 janI j...@apache.org wrote: On 9 August 2013 11:05, FR web forum ooofo...@free.fr wrote: As of the time of this mail, the forum vm has been reconfigured to cope with a higher load. No change for french forum, we still have error 1040. Apologies for my joke about snails, the vm is slower than a sleeping snail. All forums are handled identically, we dont have a phpBB running pr forum, so every forum must be experiencing this. It seems at the moment the vm is swapping itself to a slow death. I will be on it, in max 30 minutes. For information: en-Forum still out at 12:35 UTC+1. -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie It's back, but slooow! yes very very slow. thx to cyrel I have been able to trace mysql while we had the situation, a reconfiguration is highly needed: --- cut of the analysis result --- MySQL Version 5.1.70-0ubuntu0.10.04.1 x86_64 -- Should be at least 5.5 preferable 5.6 SLOW QUERIES The slow query log is NOT enabled. Current long_query_time = 10.00 sec. You have 9115 out of 103343 that take longer than 10.00 sec. to complete -- not real bad, but also not super WORKER THREADS Current thread_cache_size = 8 Current threads_cached = 0 Current threads_per_sec = 3 Historic threads_per_sec = 0 -- Threads created per/sec are overrunning threads cached, raise thread_cache_size MAX CONNECTIONS Current max_connections = 400 Current threads_connected = 254 Historic max_used_connections = 268 -- can be lowered to 300 INNODB STATUS Current InnoDB index space = 0 bytes Current InnoDB data space = 0 bytes Current InnoDB buffer pool free = 96 % Current innodb_buffer_pool_size = 8 M -- this shows how little the better performing innodb is used MEMORY USAGE Max Memory Ever Allocated : 19.02 G Configured Max Per-thread Buffers : 27.46 G Configured Max Global Buffers : 640 M Configured Max Memory Limit : 28.09 G Physical Memory : 1.96 G -- Max memory limit exceeds 90% of physical memory, increase phys mem. QUERY CACHE Query cache is enabled Current query_cache_size = 256 M Current query_cache_used = 11 M Current query_cache_limit = 4 M Current Query cache Memory fill ratio = 4.53 % Current query_cache_min_res_unit = 4 K -- query_cache_size seems to be too high. MySQL won't cache query results that are larger than query_cache_limit in size TABLE CACHE Current table_open_cache = 64 tables Current table_definition_cache = 256 tables -- there are 676 tables (384 open tables) Current table_cache hit rate is 0% -- while 600% of table cache is in use, increase table_cache and table_definition_cache value. TABLE LOCKING Current Lock Wait ratio = 1 : 4 -- selective use of InnoDB will be an advantage or at least setting low_priority_updates=1 and concurrent_insert=2. I will make the config changes later today, but not doubt about that we need a mysql upgrade, and while doing that also a httpd upgrade. I also noticed that ubuntu is not at 12.04, this is not a performance problem but only a maintenance problem. I hope we will slowly see a faster forum, but give me a bit of time to get it done, and please keep reporting errors ! rgds jan I -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Forum vm reconfiguration.
SLOW QUERIES The slow query log is NOT enabled. Current long_query_time = 10.00 sec. You have 9115 out of 103343 that take longer than 10.00 sec. to complete -- not real bad, but also not super Did you see if tables are overhead Maybe you must optimize with a defragmenting process - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Forum vm reconfiguration.
On 9 August 2013 15:06, FR web forum ooofo...@free.fr wrote: SLOW QUERIES The slow query log is NOT enabled. Current long_query_time = 10.00 sec. You have 9115 out of 103343 that take longer than 10.00 sec. to complete -- not real bad, but also not super Did you see if tables are overhead see my new thread, table_cache was a big problem. Maybe you must optimize with a defragmenting process in mysql or file system ? file system is on a raid, so not much to do there. mysql, myisam I have to check that, I have never done regular dump/load operations on tables. rgds jan I. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Forum vm reconfiguration.
On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 3:47 AM, janI j...@apache.org wrote: Hi. As of the time of this mail, the forum vm has been reconfigured to cope with a higher load. This is just a very limited reconfiguration (max_connections=75), and I will over the next days do the following: - include all changes in backup (today phpBB changes are not in svn/backup) - adjust httpd worker threads, and calculate the needed max_connections - make a test setup of phpBB - convert myIsam table to innodb - maybe upgrade to mysql 5.6 (depends on input from arist) - add office 4.0 signature (depends on input from andrea, or anybody with phpBB knowledge) I wonder why the header is not the 'official' logo of AOO. I generated a couple of headers using the SVG logo typeset and colors, choose which one to use. http://imagebin.org/267011 http://imagebin.org/267012 SVG source is here: http://imagebin.org/267014 - Run peak perfomance testing. Please use this thread to report outages, sql errors and if its slower than a snail (please compare to a danish snail, they are especially slow). rgds jan I. -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org
Re: Forum vm reconfiguration.
Am Freitag, 9. August 2013 um 16:56 schrieb Alexandro Colorado: On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 3:47 AM, janI j...@apache.org wrote: Hi. As of the time of this mail, the forum vm has been reconfigured to cope with a higher load. This is just a very limited reconfiguration (max_connections=75), and I will over the next days do the following: - include all changes in backup (today phpBB changes are not in svn/backup) - adjust httpd worker threads, and calculate the needed max_connections - make a test setup of phpBB - convert myIsam table to innodb - maybe upgrade to mysql 5.6 (depends on input from arist) - add office 4.0 signature (depends on input from andrea, or anybody with phpBB knowledge) I wonder why the header is not the 'official' logo of AOO. I generated a couple of headers using the SVG logo typeset and colors, choose which one to use. http://imagebin.org/267011 http://imagebin.org/267012 SVG source is here: http://imagebin.org/267014 Is it possible that you work on your own and don't communicate with others here on the list? This images are not known, not discussed, not approved not anything... Why should they be used at all? If you want to join any effort and collaboration on further new images using the new logo, you are invited to do do via the list and with others. If you don't want this it' fine as well but don't check in or overwrite any existing logo of images without discussion ... Juergen - Run peak perfomance testing. Please use this thread to report outages, sql errors and if its slower than a snail (please compare to a danish snail, they are especially slow). rgds jan I. -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org
Re: Forum vm reconfiguration.
On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 3:03 PM, Juergen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.comwrote: Am Freitag, 9. August 2013 um 16:56 schrieb Alexandro Colorado: On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 3:47 AM, janI j...@apache.org wrote: Hi. As of the time of this mail, the forum vm has been reconfigured to cope with a higher load. This is just a very limited reconfiguration (max_connections=75), and I will over the next days do the following: - include all changes in backup (today phpBB changes are not in svn/backup) - adjust httpd worker threads, and calculate the needed max_connections - make a test setup of phpBB - convert myIsam table to innodb - maybe upgrade to mysql 5.6 (depends on input from arist) - add office 4.0 signature (depends on input from andrea, or anybody with phpBB knowledge) I wonder why the header is not the 'official' logo of AOO. I generated a couple of headers using the SVG logo typeset and colors, choose which one to use. http://imagebin.org/267011 http://imagebin.org/267012 SVG source is here: http://imagebin.org/267014 Is it possible that you work on your own and don't communicate with others here on the list? This images are not known, not discussed, not approved not anything... Why should they be used at all? Not sure what are you talking about. AFAIK the current images from the forum header are pretty different from the logo. I talked about this with imacat a while ago, but nothing really was done at the time. If you want to join any effort and collaboration on further new images using the new logo, you are invited to do do via the list and with others. If you don't want this it' fine as well but don't check in or overwrite any existing logo of images without discussion ... Juergen - Run peak perfomance testing. Please use this thread to report outages, sql errors and if its slower than a snail (please compare to a danish snail, they are especially slow). rgds jan I. -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org
Re: Forum vm reconfiguration.
On 9 August 2013 22:07, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 3:03 PM, Juergen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote: Am Freitag, 9. August 2013 um 16:56 schrieb Alexandro Colorado: On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 3:47 AM, janI j...@apache.org wrote: Hi. As of the time of this mail, the forum vm has been reconfigured to cope with a higher load. This is just a very limited reconfiguration (max_connections=75), and I will over the next days do the following: - include all changes in backup (today phpBB changes are not in svn/backup) - adjust httpd worker threads, and calculate the needed max_connections - make a test setup of phpBB - convert myIsam table to innodb - maybe upgrade to mysql 5.6 (depends on input from arist) - add office 4.0 signature (depends on input from andrea, or anybody with phpBB knowledge) I wonder why the header is not the 'official' logo of AOO. I generated a couple of headers using the SVG logo typeset and colors, choose which one to use. http://imagebin.org/267011 http://imagebin.org/267012 SVG source is here: http://imagebin.org/267014 Is it possible that you work on your own and don't communicate with others here on the list? This images are not known, not discussed, not approved not anything... Why should they be used at all? Not sure what are you talking about. AFAIK the current images from the forum header are pretty different from the logo. I talked about this with imacat a while ago, but nothing really was done at the time. If you want to join any effort and collaboration on further new images using the new logo, you are invited to do do via the list and with others. If you don't want this it' fine as well but don't check in or overwrite any existing logo of images without discussion ... Juergen - Run peak perfomance testing. Please use this thread to report outages, sql errors and if its slower than a snail (please compare to a danish snail, they are especially slow). rgds jan I. -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org thanks to a big helping hand from arist, the mysql tables are now optimized, and cpu usage is nice low. rgds jan I. -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org
