Re: Sidebar merged into trunk
Hi, RGB, Thanks for your trying of the sidebar! Here are my comments below. - Shenfeng (Simon) 2013/4/17 Ariel Constenla-Haile arie...@apache.org Hi Ricardo, On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 8:29 PM, RGB ES rgb.m...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe there are some gremlins after all... I downloaded the build made by Ariel from here http://people.apache.org/~arielch/developer-snapshots/snapshot/linux_x86-64/ (rpm: as commented on other thread I cannot download the ARC build), installed it (without the desktop integration, though) fresh with a clean profile and obtained exactly the same problems as before with the buildbot: the sub and superscript buttons on sidebar do not work, (1) This issues sounds like the defect 122047. the icons on the Paragraph panel are on the wrong place (2) I'm not quite sure about this issue you mentioned. From what I see from the screenshot from Arial, Vertical Alignment buttons appears, but they should not. Is it the issue you want to say? and the sidebar navigator on Draw (3) We don't have any sidebar panel for Draw. We should disable it. Could you please raise a defect in BZ, with [sidebar] on summary? and Impress show nothing... (4) Could you please raise a defect in BZ, with [sidebar] on summary? Can someone else download the Linux packages and check if they work? I can reproduce it in my notebook, fedora 18 64 bits: http://people.apache.org/~arielch/images/sidebar/paraprops_b.png I cannot reproduce it in 32 bits, so these might be not gremlins, but use of C++ primitive types instead of SAL types. Regards - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Sidebar merged into trunk
On 17.04.2013 09:06, Shenfeng Liu wrote: Hi, RGB, Thanks for your trying of the sidebar! Here are my comments below. - Shenfeng (Simon) 2013/4/17 Ariel Constenla-Haile arie...@apache.org Hi Ricardo, On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 8:29 PM, RGB ES rgb.m...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe there are some gremlins after all... I downloaded the build made by Ariel from here http://people.apache.org/~arielch/developer-snapshots/snapshot/linux_x86-64/ (rpm: as commented on other thread I cannot download the ARC build), installed it (without the desktop integration, though) fresh with a clean profile and obtained exactly the same problems as before with the buildbot: the sub and superscript buttons on sidebar do not work, (1) This issues sounds like the defect 122047. the icons on the Paragraph panel are on the wrong place (2) I'm not quite sure about this issue you mentioned. From what I see from the screenshot from Arial, Vertical Alignment buttons appears, but they should not. Is it the issue you want to say? and the sidebar navigator on Draw (3) We don't have any sidebar panel for Draw. We should disable it. Could you please raise a defect in BZ, with [sidebar] on summary? Symphony did not have a sidebar for Draw. Apache OpenOffice does. Most property panels are as helpful in Draw as they are in Impress (line style and area style of shapes, text properties, etc., only the page layouts can not be applied) and Impress show nothing... (4) Could you please raise a defect in BZ, with [sidebar] on summary? Can someone else download the Linux packages and check if they work? I can reproduce it in my notebook, fedora 18 64 bits: http://people.apache.org/~arielch/images/sidebar/paraprops_b.png I cannot reproduce it in 32 bits, so these might be not gremlins, but use of C++ primitive types instead of SAL types. Regards - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Sidebar merged into trunk
On 17.04.2013 03:12, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote: Hi Ricardo, On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 8:29 PM, RGB ES rgb.m...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe there are some gremlins after all... I downloaded the build made by Ariel from here http://people.apache.org/~arielch/developer-snapshots/snapshot/linux_x86-64/ (rpm: as commented on other thread I cannot download the ARC build), installed it (without the desktop integration, though) fresh with a clean profile and obtained exactly the same problems as before with the buildbot: the sub and superscript buttons on sidebar do not work, the icons on the Paragraph panel are on the wrong place and the sidebar navigator on Draw and Impress show nothing... Can someone else download the Linux packages and check if they work? I can reproduce it in my notebook, fedora 18 64 bits: http://people.apache.org/~arielch/images/sidebar/paraprops_b.png I cannot reproduce it in 32 bits, so these might be not gremlins, but use of C++ primitive types instead of SAL types. Is that not just another name for gremlins? :-) But you may be right. The Symphony code still used some old data types (like USHORT) that are not supported anymore in AOO. Maybe the these have not been correctly migrated in all cases. -Andre Regards - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Sidebar merged into trunk
Andre, 2013/4/17 Andre Fischer awf@gmail.com On 17.04.2013 09:06, Shenfeng Liu wrote: Hi, RGB, Thanks for your trying of the sidebar! Here are my comments below. - Shenfeng (Simon) 2013/4/17 Ariel Constenla-Haile arie...@apache.org Hi Ricardo, On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 8:29 PM, RGB ES rgb.m...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe there are some gremlins after all... I downloaded the build made by Ariel from here http://people.apache.org/~**arielch/developer-snapshots/** snapshot/linux_x86-64/http://people.apache.org/~arielch/developer-snapshots/snapshot/linux_x86-64/ (rpm: as commented on other thread I cannot download the ARC build), installed it (without the desktop integration, though) fresh with a clean profile and obtained exactly the same problems as before with the buildbot: the sub and superscript buttons on sidebar do not work, (1) This issues sounds like the defect 122047. the icons on the Paragraph panel are on the wrong place (2) I'm not quite sure about this issue you mentioned. From what I see from the screenshot from Arial, Vertical Alignment buttons appears, but they should not. Is it the issue you want to say? and the sidebar navigator on Draw (3) We don't have any sidebar panel for Draw. We should disable it. Could you please raise a defect in BZ, with [sidebar] on summary? Symphony did not have a sidebar for Draw. Apache OpenOffice does. Most property panels are as helpful in Draw as they are in Impress (line style and area style of shapes, text properties, etc., only the page layouts can not be applied) Thanks for your explanation! Then it sounds like a designed behavior, since there is no object selected at the beginning, so the properties panel shows nothing. Or, for a better user experience, should we set another tab (e.g. Gallery) in front as default for Draw? and Impress show nothing... (4) Could you please raise a defect in BZ, with [sidebar] on summary? Can someone else download the Linux packages and check if they work? I can reproduce it in my notebook, fedora 18 64 bits: http://people.apache.org/~**arielch/images/sidebar/**paraprops_b.pnghttp://people.apache.org/~arielch/images/sidebar/paraprops_b.png I cannot reproduce it in 32 bits, so these might be not gremlins, but use of C++ primitive types instead of SAL types. Regards --**--** - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.**apache.orgdev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org --**--**- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.**apache.orgdev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Sidebar merged into trunk
Hi, On 17.04.2013 09:16, Andre Fischer wrote: On 17.04.2013 09:06, Shenfeng Liu wrote: [snip] and the sidebar navigator on Draw (3) We don't have any sidebar panel for Draw. We should disable it. Could you please raise a defect in BZ, with [sidebar] on summary? Symphony did not have a sidebar for Draw. Apache OpenOffice does. Most property panels are as helpful in Draw as they are in Impress (line style and area style of shapes, text properties, etc., only the page layouts can not be applied) I strongly agree to Andre. Especially the property sidebar panels are very very useful for Draw, because in Draw I am having different objects whose properties I want to change easy with the property sidebar panels. Best regards, Oliver. [snip] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Sidebar merged into trunk
On 17.04.2013 09:37, Shenfeng Liu wrote: Andre, 2013/4/17 Andre Fischer awf@gmail.com On 17.04.2013 09:06, Shenfeng Liu wrote: Hi, RGB, Thanks for your trying of the sidebar! Here are my comments below. - Shenfeng (Simon) 2013/4/17 Ariel Constenla-Haile arie...@apache.org Hi Ricardo, On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 8:29 PM, RGB ES rgb.m...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe there are some gremlins after all... I downloaded the build made by Ariel from here http://people.apache.org/~**arielch/developer-snapshots/** snapshot/linux_x86-64/http://people.apache.org/~arielch/developer-snapshots/snapshot/linux_x86-64/ (rpm: as commented on other thread I cannot download the ARC build), installed it (without the desktop integration, though) fresh with a clean profile and obtained exactly the same problems as before with the buildbot: the sub and superscript buttons on sidebar do not work, (1) This issues sounds like the defect 122047. the icons on the Paragraph panel are on the wrong place (2) I'm not quite sure about this issue you mentioned. From what I see from the screenshot from Arial, Vertical Alignment buttons appears, but they should not. Is it the issue you want to say? and the sidebar navigator on Draw (3) We don't have any sidebar panel for Draw. We should disable it. Could you please raise a defect in BZ, with [sidebar] on summary? Symphony did not have a sidebar for Draw. Apache OpenOffice does. Most property panels are as helpful in Draw as they are in Impress (line style and area style of shapes, text properties, etc., only the page layouts can not be applied) Thanks for your explanation! Then it sounds like a designed behavior, since there is no object selected at the beginning, so the properties panel shows nothing. Or, for a better user experience, should we set another tab (e.g. Gallery) in front as default for Draw? Yes, that is one of the questions that we have to answer before release. The gallery is one good candidate. But I would prefer a property panel, so that on a context change you can see the relevant property panels. Line and area style would make sense to be shown in Draw without a selected shape. This allows the user to change the default line and area style. -Andre and Impress show nothing... (4) Could you please raise a defect in BZ, with [sidebar] on summary? Can someone else download the Linux packages and check if they work? I can reproduce it in my notebook, fedora 18 64 bits: http://people.apache.org/~**arielch/images/sidebar/**paraprops_b.pnghttp://people.apache.org/~arielch/images/sidebar/paraprops_b.png I cannot reproduce it in 32 bits, so these might be not gremlins, but use of C++ primitive types instead of SAL types. Regards --**--** - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.**apache.orgdev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org --**--**- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.**apache.orgdev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Sidebar merged into trunk
2013/4/15 RGB ES rgb.m...@gmail.com 2013/4/14 RGB ES rgb.m...@gmail.com 2013/4/14 Ariel Constenla-Haile arie...@apache.org On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 12:02:40PM -0300, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote: Hi Ricardo, On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 03:15:01AM +0200, RGB ES wrote: The sidebar is just gorgeous! The Properties deck on Draw is a blessing! I'm trying the dev builds and the sidebar works almost perfectly. I filled two reports and one request for small problems I found, (bugs 122047, 122048 and 122049), but overall it is a huge step forward on the UI. Congratulations! I cannot reproduce https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122047 nor https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122048 (see http://people.apache.org/~arielch/images/sidebar/paraprops.png) May be you got an incremental build from the build bot that screwed things up. I've just seen https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122052 Not reproducible by Regina, nor with my build from current trunk. That build bot's builds are indeed screwed up. OK, I just asked some friends to test the builds from the build bot on other systems to confirm that it's a problem from the build bot and not some gremlin on my system. Without surprise, my friend confirmed the problem with the Linux binary from the build bot. Do I need to close the issues? Regards Ricardo Maybe there are some gremlins after all... I downloaded the build made by Ariel from here http://people.apache.org/~arielch/developer-snapshots/snapshot/linux_x86-64/ (rpm: as commented on other thread I cannot download the ARC build), installed it (without the desktop integration, though) fresh with a clean profile and obtained exactly the same problems as before with the buildbot: the sub and superscript buttons on sidebar do not work, the icons on the Paragraph panel are on the wrong place and the sidebar navigator on Draw and Impress show nothing... Can someone else download the Linux packages and check if they work? Regards Ricardo May be we should coordinate a weekly Developer Snapshot from now on, this will also make things easier for QA people. +1!! Regards Ricardo Regards -- Ariel Constenla-Haile La Plata, Argentina
Re: Sidebar merged into trunk
Hi Ricardo, On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 8:29 PM, RGB ES rgb.m...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe there are some gremlins after all... I downloaded the build made by Ariel from here http://people.apache.org/~arielch/developer-snapshots/snapshot/linux_x86-64/ (rpm: as commented on other thread I cannot download the ARC build), installed it (without the desktop integration, though) fresh with a clean profile and obtained exactly the same problems as before with the buildbot: the sub and superscript buttons on sidebar do not work, the icons on the Paragraph panel are on the wrong place and the sidebar navigator on Draw and Impress show nothing... Can someone else download the Linux packages and check if they work? I can reproduce it in my notebook, fedora 18 64 bits: http://people.apache.org/~arielch/images/sidebar/paraprops_b.png I cannot reproduce it in 32 bits, so these might be not gremlins, but use of C++ primitive types instead of SAL types. Regards - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Sidebar merged into trunk
2013/4/14 RGB ES rgb.m...@gmail.com 2013/4/14 Ariel Constenla-Haile arie...@apache.org On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 12:02:40PM -0300, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote: Hi Ricardo, On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 03:15:01AM +0200, RGB ES wrote: The sidebar is just gorgeous! The Properties deck on Draw is a blessing! I'm trying the dev builds and the sidebar works almost perfectly. I filled two reports and one request for small problems I found, (bugs 122047, 122048 and 122049), but overall it is a huge step forward on the UI. Congratulations! I cannot reproduce https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122047 nor https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122048 (see http://people.apache.org/~arielch/images/sidebar/paraprops.png) May be you got an incremental build from the build bot that screwed things up. I've just seen https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122052 Not reproducible by Regina, nor with my build from current trunk. That build bot's builds are indeed screwed up. OK, I just asked some friends to test the builds from the build bot on other systems to confirm that it's a problem from the build bot and not some gremlin on my system. Without surprise, my friend confirmed the problem with the Linux binary from the build bot. Do I need to close the issues? Regards Ricardo May be we should coordinate a weekly Developer Snapshot from now on, this will also make things easier for QA people. +1!! Regards Ricardo Regards -- Ariel Constenla-Haile La Plata, Argentina
Re: Sidebar merged into trunk
Hi Ricardo, On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 03:15:01AM +0200, RGB ES wrote: The sidebar is just gorgeous! The Properties deck on Draw is a blessing! I'm trying the dev builds and the sidebar works almost perfectly. I filled two reports and one request for small problems I found, (bugs 122047, 122048 and 122049), but overall it is a huge step forward on the UI. Congratulations! I cannot reproduce https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122047 nor https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122048 (see http://people.apache.org/~arielch/images/sidebar/paraprops.png) May be you got an incremental build from the build bot that screwed things up. Regards -- Ariel Constenla-Haile La Plata, Argentina pgpCFi1ADHZCD.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Sidebar merged into trunk
On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 12:02:40PM -0300, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote: Hi Ricardo, On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 03:15:01AM +0200, RGB ES wrote: The sidebar is just gorgeous! The Properties deck on Draw is a blessing! I'm trying the dev builds and the sidebar works almost perfectly. I filled two reports and one request for small problems I found, (bugs 122047, 122048 and 122049), but overall it is a huge step forward on the UI. Congratulations! I cannot reproduce https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122047 nor https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122048 (see http://people.apache.org/~arielch/images/sidebar/paraprops.png) May be you got an incremental build from the build bot that screwed things up. I've just seen https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122052 Not reproducible by Regina, nor with my build from current trunk. That build bot's builds are indeed screwed up. May be we should coordinate a weekly Developer Snapshot from now on, this will also make things easier for QA people. Regards -- Ariel Constenla-Haile La Plata, Argentina pgpSbiC1AUPRe.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Sidebar merged into trunk
2013/4/10 Andre Fischer awf@gmail.com Hi community, the first phase of the sidebar development is complete. The sidebar is now feature complete, ie all panels that are planned for the 4.0 release are now available. More importantly: we have just merged the sidebar branch into trunk. That means that from now on, every build of trunk will contain the sidebar. It is active by default and ready for use. The next phase will concentrate on two things: - Improving usability and appearance. - Finding and fixing bugs. Everyone of you can help with both points: please try out the sidebar and tell us about everything that does not work or that you don't like. If you find an error then please look at [1] to see if something like this is already known. If not, please write a new issue for it. For everything else we have this mailing list. Best regards, Andre The sidebar is just gorgeous! The Properties deck on Draw is a blessing! I'm trying the dev builds and the sidebar works almost perfectly. I filled two reports and one request for small problems I found, (bugs 122047, 122048 and 122049), but overall it is a huge step forward on the UI. Congratulations! Regards Ricardo --**--**- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.**apache.orgdev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Sidebar merged into trunk
Hi, On 10.04.2013 15:57, Armin Le Grand wrote: Hi Pavel, On 10.04.2013 15:43, Pavel Janík wrote: Another questionable: [ build CXX ] svx/source/tbxctrls/tbcontrl In file included from /Users/pavel/BUILD/BuildDir/ooo_trunk_src/svx/source/tbxctrls/tbcontrl.cxx:89: /Users/pavel/BUILD/BuildDir/ooo_trunk_src/solver/400/unxmacxi.pro/inc/editeng/editrids.hrc:322:1: error: RID_SVXITEMS_COLOR_WHITE redefined In file included from /Users/pavel/BUILD/BuildDir/ooo_trunk_src/svx/source/tbxctrls/tbcontrl.cxx:69: /Users/pavel/BUILD/BuildDir/ooo_trunk_src/svx/inc/svx/svxitems.hrc:74:1: error: this is the location of the previous definition make: *** [/Users/pavel/BUILD/BuildDir/ooo_trunk_src/solver/400/unxmacxi.pro/workdir/CxxObject/svx/source/tbxctrls/tbcontrl.o] Error 1 What should be renamed? Can be removed in svx, use the one from EditEngine. Anyways, the String in *.src is the same. Removed - revision 1467226 Best regards, Oliver. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Sidebar merged into trunk
On 10.04.2013 15:37, Pavel Janík wrote: /Users/pavel/BUILD/BuildDir/ooo_trunk_src/solver/400/unxmacxi.pro/inc/boost/aligned_storage.hpp:90: warning: enumeral and non-enumeral type in conditional expression ... I had seen this too but from what I have seen on the world wide web, this seems to be a problem inside boost, triggered but not directly caused by my usage of ::boost::variant. Possible solutions: 1. Update boost 2. Replace the usage of sfx2::sidebar::Paint with Wallpaper 3. Do not compile with WaE I would prefer 1 but I guess 2 is the most pragmatic. Besides the initial use case for the new Paint type may have been watered down to become irrelevant. I inspired by https://svn.boost.org/trac/boost/attachment/ticket/4297/mtc-4297.patch and use: BOOST_STATIC_CONSTANT( std::size_t , alignment = ( alignment_ == std::size_t(-1) ? std::size_t(::boost::detail::aligned_storage::alignment_of_max_align) : alignment_ ) ); there (ie. add std::size_t(...) for now. I think this is what I had seen, I mean the ticket, not the patch. A fix that was supposed to be integrated in boost 1.45 but wasn't. The problem apparently still exists in 1.48. I agree, that we can apply the patch when we build the boost library. The strange thing is that I could not reproduce this warning anymore. Have to try next week when I have a little more time. I have created issue 122044 so that I don't forget it. Thanks for finding the warning and the patch. -Andre - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Sidebar merged into trunk
On 11.04.2013 08:50, Steve Yin wrote: Hi Andre, Should we add a new thing - accessibility? I suggest to evaluate or test the sidebar's accessibility and do bug fix on the branch ia2 after finishing the IA2 migration. Hi Steve, We definitely have to take care of accessibility for the sidebar. I started to take care of two aspects, keyboard focus traveling and high contrast mode but both need more work. Regarding the support of the accessibility API I would gladly accept any help that you can offer. Most panels should have accessibility support. but I don't know if that has been properly migrated. The visible controls of the actual sidebar (tab bar, buttons, decks, panel containers) do not yet support the UAA but adding that should not be too hard. If have worked on accessibility support for Impress before and have some experience. But again, any help is appreciated. -Andre On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 5:48 PM, Andre Fischer awf@gmail.com wrote: Hi community, the first phase of the sidebar development is complete. The sidebar is now feature complete, ie all panels that are planned for the 4.0 release are now available. More importantly: we have just merged the sidebar branch into trunk. That means that from now on, every build of trunk will contain the sidebar. It is active by default and ready for use. The next phase will concentrate on two things: - Improving usability and appearance. - Finding and fixing bugs. Everyone of you can help with both points: please try out the sidebar and tell us about everything that does not work or that you don't like. If you find an error then please look at [1] to see if something like this is already known. If not, please write a new issue for it. For everything else we have this mailing list. Best regards, Andre --**--**- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.**apache.orgdev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Sidebar merged into trunk
Hi Andre, Thanks for your quick response. I definitely would like to provide accessibility help on the sidebar. : ) On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 3:11 PM, Andre Fischer awf@gmail.com wrote: On 11.04.2013 08:50, Steve Yin wrote: Hi Andre, Should we add a new thing - accessibility? I suggest to evaluate or test the sidebar's accessibility and do bug fix on the branch ia2 after finishing the IA2 migration. Hi Steve, We definitely have to take care of accessibility for the sidebar. I started to take care of two aspects, keyboard focus traveling and high contrast mode but both need more work. Regarding the support of the accessibility API I would gladly accept any help that you can offer. Most panels should have accessibility support. but I don't know if that has been properly migrated. The visible controls of the actual sidebar (tab bar, buttons, decks, panel containers) do not yet support the UAA but adding that should not be too hard. If have worked on accessibility support for Impress before and have some experience. But again, any help is appreciated. -Andre On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 5:48 PM, Andre Fischer awf@gmail.com wrote: Hi community, the first phase of the sidebar development is complete. The sidebar is now feature complete, ie all panels that are planned for the 4.0 release are now available. More importantly: we have just merged the sidebar branch into trunk. That means that from now on, every build of trunk will contain the sidebar. It is active by default and ready for use. The next phase will concentrate on two things: - Improving usability and appearance. - Finding and fixing bugs. Everyone of you can help with both points: please try out the sidebar and tell us about everything that does not work or that you don't like. If you find an error then please look at [1] to see if something like this is already known. If not, please write a new issue for it. For everything else we have this mailing list. Best regards, Andre --** --**- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.**a**pache.orghttp://apache.org dev-unsubscribe@**openoffice.apache.orgdev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org --**--**- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.**apache.orgdev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- Best Regards, Steve Yin
Re: Sidebar merged into trunk
Andre, I can't download the builds now. It shows No such resource. File not found. However, it is ok yesterday. Could you help to check? Thanks! On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 5:48 PM, Andre Fischer awf@gmail.com wrote: Hi community, the first phase of the sidebar development is complete. The sidebar is now feature complete, ie all panels that are planned for the 4.0 release are now available. More importantly: we have just merged the sidebar branch into trunk. That means that from now on, every build of trunk will contain the sidebar. It is active by default and ready for use. The next phase will concentrate on two things: - Improving usability and appearance. - Finding and fixing bugs. Everyone of you can help with both points: please try out the sidebar and tell us about everything that does not work or that you don't like. If you find an error then please look at [1] to see if something like this is already known. If not, please write a new issue for it. For everything else we have this mailing list. Best regards, Andre --**--**- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.**apache.orgdev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Sidebar merged into trunk
It works now! On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 9:15 PM, Yi Xuan Liu liuyixuan@gmail.comwrote: Andre, I can't download the builds now. It shows No such resource. File not found. However, it is ok yesterday. Could you help to check? Thanks! On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 5:48 PM, Andre Fischer awf@gmail.com wrote: Hi community, the first phase of the sidebar development is complete. The sidebar is now feature complete, ie all panels that are planned for the 4.0 release are now available. More importantly: we have just merged the sidebar branch into trunk. That means that from now on, every build of trunk will contain the sidebar. It is active by default and ready for use. The next phase will concentrate on two things: - Improving usability and appearance. - Finding and fixing bugs. Everyone of you can help with both points: please try out the sidebar and tell us about everything that does not work or that you don't like. If you find an error then please look at [1] to see if something like this is already known. If not, please write a new issue for it. For everything else we have this mailing list. Best regards, Andre --**--**- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.**apache.orgdev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Sidebar merged into trunk
Hi community, the first phase of the sidebar development is complete. The sidebar is now feature complete, ie all panels that are planned for the 4.0 release are now available. More importantly: we have just merged the sidebar branch into trunk. That means that from now on, every build of trunk will contain the sidebar. It is active by default and ready for use. The next phase will concentrate on two things: - Improving usability and appearance. - Finding and fixing bugs. Everyone of you can help with both points: please try out the sidebar and tell us about everything that does not work or that you don't like. If you find an error then please look at [1] to see if something like this is already known. If not, please write a new issue for it. For everything else we have this mailing list. Best regards, Andre - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Sidebar merged into trunk
On 10 April 2013 11:48, Andre Fischer awf@gmail.com wrote: Hi community, the first phase of the sidebar development is complete. The sidebar is now feature complete, ie all panels that are planned for the 4.0 release are now available. More importantly: we have just merged the sidebar branch into trunk. That means that from now on, every build of trunk will contain the sidebar. It is active by default and ready for use. The next phase will concentrate on two things: - Improving usability and appearance. - Finding and fixing bugs. Everyone of you can help with both points: please try out the sidebar and tell us about everything that does not work or that you don't like. If you find an error then please look at [1] to see if something like this is already known. If not, please write a new issue for it. For everything else we have this mailing list. Congratulations with the big work to everyone that participated ! A small question is someone looking at documenting this new feature, including online doc ? rgds jan I. Best regards, Andre --**--**- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.**apache.orgdev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Sidebar merged into trunk
On 10.04.2013 11:48, Andre Fischer wrote: Hi community, the first phase of the sidebar development is complete. The sidebar is now feature complete, ie all panels that are planned for the 4.0 release are now available. More importantly: we have just merged the sidebar branch into trunk. That means that from now on, every build of trunk will contain the sidebar. It is active by default and ready for use. The next phase will concentrate on two things: - Improving usability and appearance. - Finding and fixing bugs. Everyone of you can help with both points: please try out the sidebar and tell us about everything that does not work or that you don't like. If you find an error then please look at [1] to see if Missing footnote: [1] http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Sidebar#Known_Bugs_and_Requested_Enhancements something like this is already known. If not, please write a new issue for it. For everything else we have this mailing list. Best regards, Andre - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Sidebar merged into trunk
On 4/10/13 12:11 PM, janI wrote: On 10 April 2013 11:48, Andre Fischer awf@gmail.com wrote: Hi community, the first phase of the sidebar development is complete. The sidebar is now feature complete, ie all panels that are planned for the 4.0 release are now available. More importantly: we have just merged the sidebar branch into trunk. That means that from now on, every build of trunk will contain the sidebar. It is active by default and ready for use. The next phase will concentrate on two things: - Improving usability and appearance. - Finding and fixing bugs. Everyone of you can help with both points: please try out the sidebar and tell us about everything that does not work or that you don't like. If you find an error then please look at [1] to see if something like this is already known. If not, please write a new issue for it. For everything else we have this mailing list. Congratulations with the big work to everyone that participated ! A small question is someone looking at documenting this new feature, including online doc ? this has to be done unfortunately and I see a problem to have a good integrated help in place for 4.0. The help system is one area where we should try to find a better solution. I can think of an optional package and some kind of internal mapping between help id's and the place where to find the help files. then we can have an online version of the help which give us further advantages and we can have an downloadable and optional help (package, extension) for offline usage on demand. something for the future I guess, one of many things that we can improve or where somebody can start working on Juergen rgds jan I. Best regards, Andre --**--**- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.**apache.orgdev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Sidebar merged into trunk
On 10.04.2013 11:48, Andre Fischer wrote: For everything else we have this mailing list. While the new builds are not yet available (I will let you know when they are), let me start with a bag of things that need improvement. I list only things where the best behavior is not entirely clear and I need your input: 1. The default sizes of the sidebar and application windows need better defaults. Writer on Linux is dominated by the sidebar. 2. Handling of scroll wheel in sidebar is not consistent: sometimes the wheel scrolls the edit view, sometimes it changes the values of some controls, but it never scrolls the sidebar (which I think should be the default while the mouse pointer is over the sidebar). 3. The sidebar tab bar is currently always located on the right side of the sidebar. Even when docked at the left side. Maybe the tab bar should then be located at the left? What about RTL writing mode? (At the moment the sidebar can be docked at the bottom, but I have already a fix for that) 4. I think that the color scheme is still a little bit too far in the battelship-gray corner of the color space. 5. The controls in the drop downs are not consistent. While I think that consistency with the rest of the office has not top priority, consistency inside the sidebar has (or should have, we want to impress our users, right?) I personally have come to like the drop downs that where migrated from Symphony, like the one for the Width control of the Line panel (make the Line panel visible by adding and/or selecting a shape to an application of your choice). Compare it to the drop down of the Styles control right below. As you see, much of this is a matter of taste. There is no one right solution. And yet we have to agree on one. Regards, Andre - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
WaE discussion/solving on IRC [was: Re: Sidebar merged into trunk]
Hi Pavel, On 10.04.2013 14:11, Pavel Janík wrote: Hi Andre, On Apr 10, 2013, at 11:48 AM, Andre Fischer wrote: the first phase of the sidebar development is complete. The sidebar is now feature complete, ie all panels that are planned for the 4.0 release are now available. thanks to anyone who was working on it. More importantly: we have just merged the sidebar branch into trunk. That means that from now on, every build of trunk will contain the sidebar. It is active by default and ready for use. Can we get someone on IRC to solve all WaE issues? From my point of view it would makes sense to have such an synchronized solving session. I think the only problem is to find a corresponding time slot at which the interested people are able to join. Unfortunately, I am currently in preparation of my trip to a German workshop on free office suites and ODF in Berlin, taking place tomorrow. Thus, I am not available for such a session today and tomorrow. Best regards, Oliver. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Sidebar merged into trunk
On 10.04.2013 15:09, Pavel Janík wrote: On Apr 10, 2013, at 2:11 PM, Pavel Janík wrote: Can we get someone on IRC to solve all WaE issues? This stops me now: [ build CXX ] sfx2/source/sidebar/SidebarController cc1plus: warnings being treated as errors /Users/pavel/BUILD/BuildDir/ooo_trunk_src/solver/400/unxmacxi.pro/inc/boost/aligned_storage.hpp:90: warning: enumeral and non-enumeral type in conditional expression /Users/pavel/BUILD/BuildDir/ooo_trunk_src/solver/400/unxmacxi.pro/inc/boost/aligned_storage.hpp: In instantiation of ‘boost::aligned_storage4ul, 4ul’: /Users/pavel/BUILD/BuildDir/ooo_trunk_src/solver/400/unxmacxi.pro/inc/boost/variant/variant.hpp:1170: instantiated from ‘boost::variantColor, Gradient, boost::detail::variant::void_, boost::detail::variant::void_, boost::detail::variant::void_, boost::detail::variant::void_, boost::detail::variant::void_, boost::detail::variant::void_, boost::detail::variant::void_, boost::detail::variant::void_, boost::detail::variant::void_, boost::detail::variant::void_, boost::detail::variant::void_, boost::detail::variant::void_, boost::detail::variant::void_, boost::detail::variant::void_, boost::detail::variant::void_, boost::detail::variant::void_, boost::detail::variant::void_, boost::detail::variant::void_’ /Users/pavel/BUILD/BuildDir/ooo_trunk_src/sfx2/source/sidebar/Paint.hxx:78: instantiated from here /Users/pavel/BUILD/BuildDir/ooo_trunk_src/solver/400/unxmacxi.pro/inc/boost/aligned_storage.hpp:90: warning: enumeral and non-enumeral type in conditional expression make: *** [/Users/pavel/BUILD/BuildDir/ooo_trunk_src/solver/400/unxmacxi.pro/workdir/CxxObject/sfx2/source/sidebar/SidebarController.o] Error 1 dmake: Error code 2, while making 'all' ERROR: error 65280 occurred while making /Users/pavel/BUILD/BuildDir/ooo_trunk_src/sfx2/prj I had seen this too but from what I have seen on the world wide web, this seems to be a problem inside boost, triggered but not directly caused by my usage of ::boost::variant. Possible solutions: 1. Update boost 2. Replace the usage of sfx2::sidebar::Paint with Wallpaper 3. Do not compile with WaE I would prefer 1 but I guess 2 is the most pragmatic. Besides the initial use case for the new Paint type may have been watered down to become irrelevant. -Andre - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Sidebar merged into trunk
Another questionable: [ build CXX ] svx/source/tbxctrls/tbcontrl In file included from /Users/pavel/BUILD/BuildDir/ooo_trunk_src/svx/source/tbxctrls/tbcontrl.cxx:89: /Users/pavel/BUILD/BuildDir/ooo_trunk_src/solver/400/unxmacxi.pro/inc/editeng/editrids.hrc:322:1: error: RID_SVXITEMS_COLOR_WHITE redefined In file included from /Users/pavel/BUILD/BuildDir/ooo_trunk_src/svx/source/tbxctrls/tbcontrl.cxx:69: /Users/pavel/BUILD/BuildDir/ooo_trunk_src/svx/inc/svx/svxitems.hrc:74:1: error: this is the location of the previous definition make: *** [/Users/pavel/BUILD/BuildDir/ooo_trunk_src/solver/400/unxmacxi.pro/workdir/CxxObject/svx/source/tbxctrls/tbcontrl.o] Error 1 What should be renamed? -- Pavel Janík - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Sidebar merged into trunk
janI wrote: On 10 April 2013 11:48, Andre Fischer awf@gmail.com wrote: Hi community, the first phase of the sidebar development is complete. The sidebar is now feature complete, ie all panels that are planned for the 4.0 release are now available. More importantly: we have just merged the sidebar branch into trunk. That means that from now on, every build of trunk will contain the sidebar. It is active by default and ready for use. The next phase will concentrate on two things: - Improving usability and appearance. - Finding and fixing bugs. Everyone of you can help with both points: please try out the sidebar and tell us about everything that does not work or that you don't like. If you find an error then please look at [1] to see if something like this is already known. If not, please write a new issue for it. For everything else we have this mailing list. Congratulations with the big work to everyone that participated ! A small question is someone looking at documenting this new feature, including online doc ? rgds jan I. Best regards, Andre --**--**- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.**apache.orgdev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org Jan; The documentation team is planing on adding this to our online user guides. Now that it is has been merged into trunk We can take a closer look on what is needed. Keith - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Sidebar merged into trunk
Hi Pavel, On 10.04.2013 15:43, Pavel Janík wrote: Another questionable: [ build CXX ] svx/source/tbxctrls/tbcontrl In file included from /Users/pavel/BUILD/BuildDir/ooo_trunk_src/svx/source/tbxctrls/tbcontrl.cxx:89: /Users/pavel/BUILD/BuildDir/ooo_trunk_src/solver/400/unxmacxi.pro/inc/editeng/editrids.hrc:322:1: error: RID_SVXITEMS_COLOR_WHITE redefined In file included from /Users/pavel/BUILD/BuildDir/ooo_trunk_src/svx/source/tbxctrls/tbcontrl.cxx:69: /Users/pavel/BUILD/BuildDir/ooo_trunk_src/svx/inc/svx/svxitems.hrc:74:1: error: this is the location of the previous definition make: *** [/Users/pavel/BUILD/BuildDir/ooo_trunk_src/solver/400/unxmacxi.pro/workdir/CxxObject/svx/source/tbxctrls/tbcontrl.o] Error 1 What should be renamed? Can be removed in svx, use the one from EditEngine. Anyways, the String in *.src is the same. HTH! Greetings, Armin -- ALG - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Sidebar merged into trunk
Great News! Congratulations! I'll install it and call for more volunteers to test On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 5:48 PM, Andre Fischer awf@gmail.com wrote: Hi community, the first phase of the sidebar development is complete. The sidebar is now feature complete, ie all panels that are planned for the 4.0 release are now available. More importantly: we have just merged the sidebar branch into trunk. That means that from now on, every build of trunk will contain the sidebar. It is active by default and ready for use. The next phase will concentrate on two things: - Improving usability and appearance. - Finding and fixing bugs. Everyone of you can help with both points: please try out the sidebar and tell us about everything that does not work or that you don't like. If you find an error then please look at [1] to see if something like this is already known. If not, please write a new issue for it. For everything else we have this mailing list. Best regards, Andre --**--**- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.**apache.orgdev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Sidebar merged into trunk
Hi Em 10/04/2013 07:11, janI j...@apache.org escreveu: On 10 April 2013 11:48, Andre Fischer awf@gmail.com wrote: Hi community, the first phase of the sidebar development is complete. The sidebar is now feature complete, ie all panels that are planned for the 4.0 release are now available. Congratulations!! A small question is someone looking at documenting this new feature, including online doc ? More that docs, do we will have a branch for 4.0 in l10n/pootle, including the strings of sidebar? Regards, Claudio
Re: Sidebar merged into trunk
On 4/10/13 4:18 PM, Claudio Filho wrote: Hi Em 10/04/2013 07:11, janI j...@apache.org escreveu: On 10 April 2013 11:48, Andre Fischer awf@gmail.com wrote: Hi community, the first phase of the sidebar development is complete. The sidebar is now feature complete, ie all panels that are planned for the 4.0 release are now available. Congratulations!! A small question is someone looking at documenting this new feature, including online doc ? More that docs, do we will have a branch for 4.0 in l10n/pootle, including the strings of sidebar? yes, we will work on this asap when we have all UI relevant changes in place. @Ariel, does the integration of the presenter console and presentation minimizer affect the translation? I think so but haven't checked it. Juergen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Sidebar merged into trunk
Jürgen Schmidt wrote: On 4/10/13 3:45 PM, Keith N. McKenna wrote: janI wrote: On 10 April 2013 11:48, Andre Fischer awf@gmail.com wrote: snip A small question is someone looking at documenting this new feature, including online doc ? rgds jan I. Best regards, Andre --**--**- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.**apache.orgdev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org Jan; The documentation team is planing on adding this to our online user guides. Now that it is has been merged into trunk We can take a closer look on what is needed. perfect, good to hear that. And having updated user documentation is very important. Does anybody of you have experience with our online help? I am personally no fiend of our help system but I am sure it is used. Would be good to find a way to include the sidebar ... Juergen Juergen; I am not sure if anyone currently active with documentation has any experience with the help system. I am nt a real fan of the current help system that ships with the product, but it is better than nothing. From what I understand from my limited reading about it it is a complicated and unwieldy system to deal with. I will check on the doc list and see if anyone has experience with it. Regards Keith - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Sidebar merged into trunk
2013/4/10 Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com On 4/10/13 3:45 PM, Keith N. McKenna wrote: janI wrote: On 10 April 2013 11:48, Andre Fischer awf@gmail.com wrote: Hi community, the first phase of the sidebar development is complete. The sidebar is now feature complete, ie all panels that are planned for the 4.0 release are now available. More importantly: we have just merged the sidebar branch into trunk. That means that from now on, every build of trunk will contain the sidebar. It is active by default and ready for use. The next phase will concentrate on two things: - Improving usability and appearance. - Finding and fixing bugs. Everyone of you can help with both points: please try out the sidebar and tell us about everything that does not work or that you don't like. If you find an error then please look at [1] to see if something like this is already known. If not, please write a new issue for it. For everything else we have this mailing list. Congratulations with the big work to everyone that participated ! A small question is someone looking at documenting this new feature, including online doc ? rgds jan I. Best regards, Andre --**--**- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.**apache.org dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org Jan; The documentation team is planing on adding this to our online user guides. Now that it is has been merged into trunk We can take a closer look on what is needed. perfect, good to hear that. And having updated user documentation is very important. Does anybody of you have experience with our online help? I am personally no fiend of our help system but I am sure it is used. Would be good to find a way to include the sidebar ... Some time ago I asked the same and Regina provided some links http://markmail.org/message/dozivgev75b7znhd Regards Ricardo Juergen Keith - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
