Re: Possible broken link: Checksums
Am 09/06/2014 03:40 AM, schrieb George Lim: Please advise when I can safely accept that update has been achieved without closing the page. when the download has ended normally it should be all. Additionally you can check that the file size is at least fitting roughly: compare the file size on your PC with the on in the green download box. Finally, you can check the hash value(s) on the webpage you are at the moment: checksums. ;-) HTH Marcus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Forward planning for OO 5.0
On 05/09/2014 Vladislav Stevanovic wrote: - Word Count to view the word count at any given time in Status bar Ariel maintains an extension for that at http://extensions.openoffice.org/en/project/word-count-statusbar-controller - Good features (for non-English country) is ability to download more than one language package for UI and Help system. There is often problem when somebody want to switch from local language to English or vice versa. Sometimes is problem to understand local therm in translated UI and what if you do not have Internet connection to download another version (or simply you have not time for that)? This is already possible, you can download and install as many language packs as you wish. Do you mean you want them in one executable? - Calc has not support Iferror function. Maybe also another function is there out what Calc do not support. If we want to offer alternative for Office, well we must have all function This is one of the features that are realistically suitable for new volunteers (even though this one would need mentoring too). Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Forward planning for OO 5.0
On 05/09/2014 Vladislav Stevanovic wrote: - Word Count to view the word count at any given time in Status bar Ariel maintains an extension for that at http://extensions.openoffice.org/en/project/word-count-statusbar-controller http://extensions.openoffice.org/en/project/word-count-statusbar-controller Not as extension. To be a part of intalation file of AOO. - Good features (for non-English country) is ability to download more than one language package for UI and Help system. There is often problem when somebody want to switch from local language to English or vice versa. Sometimes is problem to understand local therm in translated UI and what if you do not have Internet connection to download another version (or simply you have not time for that)? This is already possible, you can download and install as many language packs as you wish. Do you mean you want them in one executable? All languages should be in installation file. Then, when process of installation starts, application will ask user what languages want to using (if they want a few, or all of them, user will mark). There will be no need in a future for download language pack separately. This solution is simpler. Regards, Wlada 2014-09-06 11:54 GMT+02:00 Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org: On 05/09/2014 Vladislav Stevanovic wrote: - Word Count to view the word count at any given time in Status bar Ariel maintains an extension for that at http://extensions.openoffice.org/en/project/word-count- statusbar-controller - Good features (for non-English country) is ability to download more than one language package for UI and Help system. There is often problem when somebody want to switch from local language to English or vice versa. Sometimes is problem to understand local therm in translated UI and what if you do not have Internet connection to download another version (or simply you have not time for that)? This is already possible, you can download and install as many language packs as you wish. Do you mean you want them in one executable? - Calc has not support Iferror function. Maybe also another function is there out what Calc do not support. If we want to offer alternative for Office, well we must have all function This is one of the features that are realistically suitable for new volunteers (even though this one would need mentoring too). Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
OpenFormula Alignment (was RE: Forward planning for OO 5.0)
A good source for volunteer effort is exploration of the alignment between Calc, ODF 1.2 OpenFormula, and other ODF Spreadsheet supporting implementations such as Excel 2013 and Gnumeric. This would isolate and identify provisions of ODF 1.2 OpenFormula, such as IFERROR http://docs.oasis-open.org/office/v1.2/os/OpenDocument-v1.2-os-part2.html#__RefHeading__1018448_715980110, that may not yet be supported. There may be others that variances and boundaries that need to be dealt with or at least specified as implementation-dependent/defined for Apache OpenOffice. This is a rich avenue for documentation, testing, and interoperability verification as well as learning how to integrate/maintain formula processing in Apache OpenOffice Calc. Regina Henschel is a valuable resource in this area. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Andrea Pescetti [mailto:pesce...@apache.org] Sent: Saturday, September 6, 2014 02:55 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: Forward planning for OO 5.0 On 05/09/2014 Vladislav Stevanovic wrote: [ ... ] - Calc has not support Iferror function. Maybe also another function is there out what Calc do not support. If we want to offer alternative for Office, well we must have all function This is one of the features that are realistically suitable for new volunteers (even though this one would need mentoring too). Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Forward planning for OO 5.0
Hi Vladislav, 2014-09-06 15:12 GMT+02:00 Vladislav Stevanovic stevanovicvladis...@gmail.com: On 05/09/2014 Vladislav Stevanovic wrote: All languages should be in installation file. Then, when process of installation starts, application will ask user what languages want to using (if they want a few, or all of them, user will mark). There will be no need in a future for download language pack separately. This solution is simpler. In theory, it's effectively a nice solution. But in practice, due to bad internet connections in some countries, it wouldn't be very fair for those people. Moreover, if the different language packs are not ready together it's also a problem to build the executable. Not sure it could be feasable. Only my opinion, of course. A+ -- gw
Re: native-lang.html suggestions now in staging...
On 03/08/2014 Kay Schenk wrote: http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/projects/native-lang-new.html I see work on this has stopped, but the page was rather OK and a good replacement for http://www.openoffice.org/projects/native-lang.html Ok, back to these ideas above. In my mind -- maintained - current, and current - maintained so these are one in the same from a logical standpoint despite nuances in definition. In a similar fashion, outdated - unmaintained - help wanted. Help wanted is much clearer to people who are casually scanning the page and who are, in most cases, not native English speakers. So I tried to implement that. Similarly, I changed Distribution into OpenOffice availability since I find it clearer for non-native speakers. So why not just call it unmaintained and provide some further explanation by what is meant by this versus a separate entry in the table. I completed the table with the recommended workflow for updating a translation. Mostly, I am just trying to keep the maintenance and general understanding of this page simpler for everybody. I think it's pretty good now. Any other fixes to do before we replace the old native-lang.html with this one? Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: native-lang.html suggestions now in staging...
On 9/6/14, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: On 03/08/2014 Kay Schenk wrote: http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/projects/native-lang-new.html I see work on this has stopped, but the page was rather OK and a good replacement for http://www.openoffice.org/projects/native-lang.html I never got any final approval on the sortable table, the js is there, is just about connecting it. The same can be said to the font awesome. Ok, back to these ideas above. In my mind -- maintained - current, and current - maintained so these are one in the same from a logical standpoint despite nuances in definition. In a similar fashion, outdated - unmaintained - help wanted. Help wanted is much clearer to people who are casually scanning the page and who are, in most cases, not native English speakers. So I tried to implement that. Similarly, I changed Distribution into OpenOffice availability since I find it clearer for non-native speakers. So why not just call it unmaintained and provide some further explanation by what is meant by this versus a separate entry in the table. I completed the table with the recommended workflow for updating a translation. Mostly, I am just trying to keep the maintenance and general understanding of this page simpler for everybody. I think it's pretty good now. Any other fixes to do before we replace the old native-lang.html with this one? Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor 882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9 5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: native-lang.html suggestions now in staging...
Am 09/06/2014 05:38 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti: On 03/08/2014 Kay Schenk wrote: http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/projects/native-lang-new.html I see work on this has stopped, but the page was rather OK and a good replacement for http://www.openoffice.org/projects/native-lang.html Ok, back to these ideas above. In my mind -- maintained - current, and current - maintained so these are one in the same from a logical standpoint despite nuances in definition. In a similar fashion, outdated - unmaintained - help wanted. Help wanted is much clearer to people who are casually scanning the page and who are, in most cases, not native English speakers. So I tried to implement that. Similarly, I changed Distribution into OpenOffice availability since I find it clearer for non-native speakers. So why not just call it unmaintained and provide some further explanation by what is meant by this versus a separate entry in the table. I completed the table with the recommended workflow for updating a translation. Mostly, I am just trying to keep the maintenance and general understanding of this page simpler for everybody. I think it's pretty good now. Any other fixes to do before we replace the old native-lang.html with this one? yes, I remember now that there were discussions but IMHO at the end only about minor things. So, let's use the new webpage now ad improve over the time when something is still unclear. Marcus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Desciption of the spell checker engine of OpenOffice
On 05/09/2014 Maria Hartmann wrote: describe how hunspell works because the files I wrote for the spell checker have no funtionality by there own. Right? Well, no. Hunspell files are useful in themselves too. Hunspell can be used both as a stand-alone command-line tool or as a library. OpenOffice embeds Hunspell and can thus use your .dic and .aff files for spell checking, but those same files can be used in entirely different programs (e.g., Thunderbird) to the same purpose. Is anybody here who knows something about a description? You fill find rather comprehensive information about Hunspell (including file format) in PDF files at http://sourceforge.net/projects/hunspell/files/Hunspell/Documentation/ The code used by OpenOffice to interface with Hunspell is here: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/trunk/main/lingucomponent/source/spellcheck/spell/ and the OpenOffice customizations to hunspell are here: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/trunk/ext_libraries/hunspell/ Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Forward planning for OO 5.0
Hi Guy, LO already integrated this solution. I do not see that they have some big problem with this solution. In the end, we can offer two version: one with all languages (preferable option), and one version what we have now, to be sure that someone with poor internet speed can download lighter version. Maybe persons who lives in country where official language is English can not understood this problem, because basic language for UI and Help is on English language. But every others need sometimes to compare some terms in both local and English language. Regards, Wlada 2014-09-06 17:07 GMT+02:00 Guy Waterval waterval@gmail.com: Hi Vladislav, 2014-09-06 15:12 GMT+02:00 Vladislav Stevanovic stevanovicvladis...@gmail.com: On 05/09/2014 Vladislav Stevanovic wrote: All languages should be in installation file. Then, when process of installation starts, application will ask user what languages want to using (if they want a few, or all of them, user will mark). There will be no need in a future for download language pack separately. This solution is simpler. In theory, it's effectively a nice solution. But in practice, due to bad internet connections in some countries, it wouldn't be very fair for those people. Moreover, if the different language packs are not ready together it's also a problem to build the executable. Not sure it could be feasable. Only my opinion, of course. A+ -- gw
[RELEASE] Updated download links on remaining NL webpages
Hi all, I've updated the download links on some more NL webpages: - Greek: http://www.openoffice.org/el/ - Polish: http://www.openoffice.org/pl/product.download.html - Serbian (Cyrillic): http://www.openoffice.org/sr/preuzmi.html - Swedish: http://www.openoffice.org/sv/get/ The following NL webpages still need a bigger update: - Hindi: http://www.openoffice.org/hi/about-downloads.html - Khmer: http://www.openoffice.org/km/ - Korean: http://www.openoffice.org/ko/ - Norwegian (Bookmal): http://www.openoffice.org/nb/ - Portuguese (Brazilian): http://www.openoffice.org/pt-br/ - Russian: http://www.openoffice.org/ru/about-downloads.html - Slovenian: http://www.openoffice.org/sl/ - Tamil: http://www.openoffice.org/ta/ - Thai: http://www.openoffice.org/th/ - Vietnamese: http://www.openoffice.org/vi/about-downloads.html Now all webpages should offer 4.1.1 download links or point to http://www.openoffice.org/download/; (somehow). For a full overview please have a look into the Wiki page: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=42568156 Marcus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
RE: Desciption of the spell checker engine of OpenOffice
Hey Andrea, thank you for the links, I already found and got enough stuff to write an overview. Regards, Maria Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2014 18:18:32 +0200 From: pesce...@apache.org To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: Desciption of the spell checker engine of OpenOffice On 05/09/2014 Maria Hartmann wrote: describe how hunspell works because the files I wrote for the spell checker have no funtionality by there own. Right? Well, no. Hunspell files are useful in themselves too. Hunspell can be used both as a stand-alone command-line tool or as a library. OpenOffice embeds Hunspell and can thus use your .dic and .aff files for spell checking, but those same files can be used in entirely different programs (e.g., Thunderbird) to the same purpose. Is anybody here who knows something about a description? You fill find rather comprehensive information about Hunspell (including file format) in PDF files at http://sourceforge.net/projects/hunspell/files/Hunspell/Documentation/ The code used by OpenOffice to interface with Hunspell is here: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/trunk/main/lingucomponent/source/spellcheck/spell/ and the OpenOffice customizations to hunspell are here: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/trunk/ext_libraries/hunspell/ Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org