Working on Refresh of openoffice.apache.org

2021-06-28 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi -

I’ve created a feature branch of the project website at 
https://github.com/apache/openoffice-project/tree/preview/refresh

I’ve updated it to use the ASF Pelican features as developed for the CMS 
Migration of www.apache.org and ten project websites just being completed.

One feature that returns is {#elementid} and permalink support.

Intermediate results are here: https://openoffice-refresh.staged.apache.org

I plan to swap from left navigation to top navigation next along with other 
enhancements.

Feel free to contribute page updates, new pages, and content removals via 
changes to the ‘feature/refresh’ branch.

I would prefer to discuss your ideas for css, javascript, and layout changes in 
this thread although I’m going to “Just Do It".

Infra has documentation that starts here: 
https://infra.apache.org/asf-pelican-gettingstarted.html

Here we are working on a preview branch: 
https://infra.apache.org/asf-pelican-branches.html

But ask here on this thread as I’ve now worked on 15 pelican websites.

All The Best,
Dave
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Re: Working on Refresh of openoffice.apache.org

2021-06-29 Thread Dave Fisher



> On Jun 29, 2021, at 9:48 AM, Marcus  wrote:
> 
> Am 28.06.21 um 23:44 schrieb Dave Fisher:
>> I’ve created a feature branch of the project website at 
>> https://github.com/apache/openoffice-project/tree/preview/refresh
>> I’ve updated it to use the ASF Pelican features as developed for the CMS 
>> Migration of www.apache.org and ten project websites just being completed.
>> One feature that returns is {#elementid} and permalink support.
>> Intermediate results are here: https://openoffice-refresh.staged.apache.org
> 
> when comparing this with "https://openoffice.apache.org/"; I don't see any 
> changes. Are there already changes to be noticed?

The only changes to be noticed is the formatting for the three [TOC]

> 
> Thanks
> 
>> I plan to swap from left navigation to top navigation next along with other 
>> enhancements.
> 
> That means all links under General, Community, Develoment ... are horizontal 
> links, right?

Yes, and they will collapse to a menu on narrow screens / mobile

> 
> On the example page "https://template.staged.apache.org/"; I can see how it 
> can look like. However, we have a lot of links more, so how would it look 
> like for us?

Two things.

(1) That’s a limited sample. Each menu will have however many menu items we 
want.
(2) I think we should revisit the menus on a case by case and page by page 
basis.

We have 46 pages:
./orientation/intro-marketing.md
./orientation/how-aoo-project-works.md
./orientation/intro-doc.md
./orientation/decision-making.md
./orientation/intro-qa.md
./orientation/index.md
./orientation/intro-l10n.md
./orientation/infrastructure.md
./orientation/intro-development.md
./orientation/intro-contributing.md
./get-involved.md
./license.md
./style-test.md
./mission.md
./people.md
./press.md
./bug-tracking.md
./qa.md
./source.md
./contact.md
./mailing-lists.md
./website-native.md
./privacy.md
./community-faqs.md
./get-involved-de.md
./students.md
./contributing-code.md
./docs/edit-cms.md
./docs/governance/voting.md
./docs/governance/consensusBuilding.md
./docs/governance/lazyConsensus.md
./social.md
./svn-basics.md
./pmc-faqs.md
./website-local.md
./native-lang.md
./index.md
./terms.md
./translate.md
./list-conduct.md
./downloads.md
./events.md
./get-it-here.md
./developer-faqs.md
./security.md
./trademarks.md

Some of these are obsolete and many could use a review.

We might want to add an “Orientation” menu.

I think my next step is to make a table of the pages.

Regards,
Dave

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> 
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Re: Working on Refresh of openoffice.apache.org

2021-06-29 Thread Dave Fisher
Top Post.

I’ve created a table of the site pages, menu items, and internal footer links.

https://github.com/apache/openoffice-project/blob/preview/refresh/PAGES.md

There is commentary for some of the pages.

Regards,
Dave

> On Jun 29, 2021, at 9:57 AM, Dave Fisher  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jun 29, 2021, at 9:48 AM, Marcus  wrote:
>> 
>> Am 28.06.21 um 23:44 schrieb Dave Fisher:
>>> I’ve created a feature branch of the project website at 
>>> https://github.com/apache/openoffice-project/tree/preview/refresh
>>> I’ve updated it to use the ASF Pelican features as developed for the CMS 
>>> Migration of www.apache.org and ten project websites just being completed.
>>> One feature that returns is {#elementid} and permalink support.
>>> Intermediate results are here: https://openoffice-refresh.staged.apache.org
>> 
>> when comparing this with "https://openoffice.apache.org/"; I don't see any 
>> changes. Are there already changes to be noticed?
> 
> The only changes to be noticed is the formatting for the three [TOC]
> 
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>>> I plan to swap from left navigation to top navigation next along with other 
>>> enhancements.
>> 
>> That means all links under General, Community, Develoment ... are horizontal 
>> links, right?
> 
> Yes, and they will collapse to a menu on narrow screens / mobile
> 
>> 
>> On the example page "https://template.staged.apache.org/"; I can see how it 
>> can look like. However, we have a lot of links more, so how would it look 
>> like for us?
> 
> Two things.
> 
> (1) That’s a limited sample. Each menu will have however many menu items we 
> want.
> (2) I think we should revisit the menus on a case by case and page by page 
> basis.
> 
> We have 46 pages:
> ./orientation/intro-marketing.md
> ./orientation/how-aoo-project-works.md
> ./orientation/intro-doc.md
> ./orientation/decision-making.md
> ./orientation/intro-qa.md
> ./orientation/index.md
> ./orientation/intro-l10n.md
> ./orientation/infrastructure.md
> ./orientation/intro-development.md
> ./orientation/intro-contributing.md
> ./get-involved.md
> ./license.md
> ./style-test.md
> ./mission.md
> ./people.md
> ./press.md
> ./bug-tracking.md
> ./qa.md
> ./source.md
> ./contact.md
> ./mailing-lists.md
> ./website-native.md
> ./privacy.md
> ./community-faqs.md
> ./get-involved-de.md
> ./students.md
> ./contributing-code.md
> ./docs/edit-cms.md
> ./docs/governance/voting.md
> ./docs/governance/consensusBuilding.md
> ./docs/governance/lazyConsensus.md
> ./social.md
> ./svn-basics.md
> ./pmc-faqs.md
> ./website-local.md
> ./native-lang.md
> ./index.md
> ./terms.md
> ./translate.md
> ./list-conduct.md
> ./downloads.md
> ./events.md
> ./get-it-here.md
> ./developer-faqs.md
> ./security.md
> ./trademarks.md
> 
> Some of these are obsolete and many could use a review.
> 
> We might want to add an “Orientation” menu.
> 
> I think my next step is to make a table of the pages.
> 
> Regards,
> Dave
> 
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> Marcus
>> 
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Re: [openoffice-org] branch main updated: Don't manage donation links.

2021-06-29 Thread Dave Fisher
AOO should not be managing donation links like PayPal, Amazon, and BitCoin. The 
way the ASF is doing this has evolved. Recently, BitCoin was removed as a 
donation method.


> On Jun 29, 2021, at 2:54 PM, w...@apache.org wrote:
> 
> This is an automated email from the ASF dual-hosted git repository.
> 
> wave pushed a commit to branch main
> in repository https://gitbox.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice-org.git
> 
> 
> The following commit(s) were added to refs/heads/main by this push:
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> Author: Dave Fisher 
> AuthorDate: Tue Jun 29 14:54:35 2021 -0700
> 
>Don't manage donation links.
> 
>The ASF removed Bitcoin donations sometime ago on www.apache.org. We 
> should not manage any of these links as it is always possible for details to 
> change and central services has no reason to expect that the AOO PMC is also 
> managing these links.
> ---
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> 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 53 deletions(-)
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Re: Working on Refresh of openoffice.apache.org

2021-06-29 Thread Dave Fisher
Top again.

There is now a top navigation menu on 
https://openoffice-refresh.staged.apache.org/

To dos:

- Color matching with logo and navigation bar.
- AOO logo as svg.
- Mobile display scale.

Then content updates.

Regards,
Dave

> On Jun 29, 2021, at 3:30 PM, Marcus  wrote:
> 
> Am 29.06.21 um 18:57 schrieb Dave Fisher:
>>> On Jun 29, 2021, at 9:48 AM, Marcus  wrote:
>>> Am 28.06.21 um 23:44 schrieb Dave Fisher:
>>>> I’ve created a feature branch of the project website at 
>>>> https://github.com/apache/openoffice-project/tree/preview/refresh
>>>> I’ve updated it to use the ASF Pelican features as developed for the CMS 
>>>> Migration of www.apache.org and ten project websites just being completed.
>>>> One feature that returns is {#elementid} and permalink support.
>>>> Intermediate results are here: https://openoffice-refresh.staged.apache.org
>>> 
>>> when comparing this with "https://openoffice.apache.org/"; I don't see any 
>>> changes. Are there already changes to be noticed?
>> The only changes to be noticed is the formatting for the three [TOC]
> 
> after you last changes I can see now more.
> In general, the vertical margins between headlines are wider.
> 
>>> Thanks
>>> 
>>>> I plan to swap from left navigation to top navigation next along with 
>>>> other enhancements.
>>> 
>>> That means all links under General, Community, Develoment ... are 
>>> horizontal links, right?
>> Yes, and they will collapse to a menu on narrow screens / mobile
> 
> OK, then the number of items doesn't matter.
> 
>>> On the example page "https://template.staged.apache.org/"; I can see how it 
>>> can look like. However, we have a lot of links more, so how would it look 
>>> like for us?
>> Two things.
>> (1) That’s a limited sample. Each menu will have however many menu items we 
>> want.
>> (2) I think we should revisit the menus on a case by case and page by page 
>> basis.
>> We have 46 pages:
>> [...]
>> Some of these are obsolete and many could use a review.
>> We might want to add an “Orientation” menu.
>> I think my next step is to make a table of the pages.
> 
> Yes, even with only 46 pages an update sounds reasonable.
> 
> Marcus
> 
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Re: Working on Refresh of openoffice.apache.org

2021-06-30 Thread Dave Fisher
I like the look at https://openoffice-refresh.staged.apache.org/. Please review.

There were numerous tweaks needed. The current site did not catch the rename of 
volunteer@ to recruitment@.

Unless there are objections I plan to squash & merge after I get the mobile 
view better.

> On Jun 29, 2021, at 9:35 PM, Dave Fisher  wrote:
> 
> Top again.
> 
> There is now a top navigation menu on 
> https://openoffice-refresh.staged.apache.org/
> 
> To dos:
> 
> - Color matching with logo and navigation bar.

Done

> - AOO logo as svg.

Staying with PNG

> - Mobile display scale.

Working on this aspect today.

> 
> Then content updates.
> 
> Regards,
> Dave
> 
>> On Jun 29, 2021, at 3:30 PM, Marcus  wrote:
>> 
>> Am 29.06.21 um 18:57 schrieb Dave Fisher:
>>>> On Jun 29, 2021, at 9:48 AM, Marcus  wrote:
>>>> Am 28.06.21 um 23:44 schrieb Dave Fisher:
>>>>> I’ve created a feature branch of the project website at 
>>>>> https://github.com/apache/openoffice-project/tree/preview/refresh
>>>>> I’ve updated it to use the ASF Pelican features as developed for the CMS 
>>>>> Migration of www.apache.org and ten project websites just being completed.
>>>>> One feature that returns is {#elementid} and permalink support.
>>>>> Intermediate results are here: 
>>>>> https://openoffice-refresh.staged.apache.org
>>>> 
>>>> when comparing this with "https://openoffice.apache.org/"; I don't see any 
>>>> changes. Are there already changes to be noticed?
>>> The only changes to be noticed is the formatting for the three [TOC]
>> 
>> after you last changes I can see now more.
>> In general, the vertical margins between headlines are wider.
>> 
>>>> Thanks
>>>> 
>>>>> I plan to swap from left navigation to top navigation next along with 
>>>>> other enhancements.
>>>> 
>>>> That means all links under General, Community, Develoment ... are 
>>>> horizontal links, right?
>>> Yes, and they will collapse to a menu on narrow screens / mobile
>> 
>> OK, then the number of items doesn't matter.
>> 
>>>> On the example page "https://template.staged.apache.org/"; I can see how it 
>>>> can look like. However, we have a lot of links more, so how would it look 
>>>> like for us?
>>> Two things.
>>> (1) That’s a limited sample. Each menu will have however many menu items we 
>>> want.
>>> (2) I think we should revisit the menus on a case by case and page by page 
>>> basis.
>>> We have 46 pages:
>>> [...]
>>> Some of these are obsolete and many could use a review.
>>> We might want to add an “Orientation” menu.
>>> I think my next step is to make a table of the pages.
>> 
>> Yes, even with only 46 pages an update sounds reasonable.
>> 
>> Marcus
>> 
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Re: Working on Refresh of openoffice.apache.org

2021-06-30 Thread Dave Fisher



> On Jun 30, 2021, at 11:12 AM, Peter Kovacs  wrote:
> 
> 
> On 30.06.21 19:25, Dave Fisher wrote:
>> I like the look at https://openoffice-refresh.staged.apache.org/. Please 
>> review.
> 
> +1, maybe can we have some icons in front of a menu point? like the ASF 
> feather in front of the ASF?

The feather in front of “The ASF” is possible.

> 
> And maybe an indication which menu point we currently see. Maybe an arrow? 
> (if you visit the link and you click on General you would see a -> in front 
> of the menu point "About".)

I’m counting on bootstrap for the nav menus and I don’t think that is at all 
easy. It would likely require keeping information about what menu a page is 
part of in the page along with making sure that the page is on the menu.

> 
>> 
>> There were numerous tweaks needed. The current site did not catch the rename 
>> of volunteer@ to recruitment@.
>> 
>> Unless there are objections I plan to squash & merge after I get the mobile 
>> view better.
> 
> I tried earlier today on my phone and it did look promising already. The 
> Desktop does also look great.

Do you have an android phone, or iPhone?

> 
> I really like the fact that it incorporates the UI approach we are using.

Thanks!
Dave

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Re: Working on Refresh of openoffice.apache.org

2021-06-30 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi -

I like where everything is now. When I run google’s Lightroom tool in a Chrome 
Incognito window I get scores of 94, 97, 100, and 100.

> On Jun 30, 2021, at 1:40 PM, Peter Kovacs  wrote:
> 
> 
> On 30.06.21 20:17, Dave Fisher wrote:
>> 
>>> On Jun 30, 2021, at 11:12 AM, Peter Kovacs  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 30.06.21 19:25, Dave Fisher wrote:
>>>> I like the look at https://openoffice-refresh.staged.apache.org/. Please 
>>>> review.
>>> +1, maybe can we have some icons in front of a menu point? like the ASF 
>>> feather in front of the ASF?
>> The feather in front of “The ASF” is possible.
>> 
>>> And maybe an indication which menu point we currently see. Maybe an arrow? 
>>> (if you visit the link and you click on General you would see a -> in front 
>>> of the menu point "About".)
>> I’m counting on bootstrap for the nav menus and I don’t think that is at all 
>> easy. It would likely require keeping information about what menu a page is 
>> part of in the page along with making sure that the page is on the menu.
> I thought of something like this pseudocode:
> 
> if (window.location.href = this.dropdown-item.href) then this.css = 
> "selected" else this.css = "unselected"?

I get your idea and it could be a way to do it and there is a way to make 
bootstrap menu items inactive.

There may be some issues with the comparison as the window.location.href is 
fully qualified while we do not want to use fully qualified urls for the 
dropdown-item hrefs (makes testing the site painful.)

> 
> Hmm, bummer seems not that easy.
> 
> So maybe something like:
> 
> const boxes = 
> documentui.dropdown-menu.show.querySelectorAll('#dropdown-item');
> 
> boxes.forEach(box => {
> if (window.location.href = box.dropdown-item.href) then box.css = "selected" 
> else box.css = "unselected"?
> 
> }
> 
> Well something along those lines. I really suck at JS, i just try to write 
> something so you have a better Idea what I thought of. Could well (likely) be 
> this is rubbish.
> 
> So for the pages I tried this approach seem to be pretty neat. Pages that are 
> not listed on the menue, maybe it is the qwuestion where they belong, anyhow.

Actually, I would want to learn how to customize Bootstrap 5 first, but I’m not 
going to do that right now.

> 
>> 
>>>> There were numerous tweaks needed. The current site did not catch the 
>>>> rename of volunteer@ to recruitment@.
>>>> 
>>>> Unless there are objections I plan to squash & merge after I get the 
>>>> mobile view better.
>>> I tried earlier today on my phone and it did look promising already. The 
>>> Desktop does also look great.
>> Do you have an android phone, or iPhone?
> 
> I tried from an Android phone. Sony Xperia XA2 and now Samsung S8 to be 
> exact. I use a Firefox browser.
> 
> Now I see a hamburger menu, nice. However the feather makes the menu look 
> unaligned. it is great on the desktop.
> 
> I am not a gui developer so I am not sure what is state of the art on 
> hamburger menus is, but i would intend the other menus, with the goal that 
> the text starts always at same point.

IMO the feather is good in the hamburger menu. All of the ASF menu items leave 
the site.

I’m done with UI work for now. It is time to update content. See 
https://github.com/apache/openoffice-project/blob/preview/refresh/PAGES.md

All The Best,
Dave

> 
>> 
>>> I really like the fact that it incorporates the UI approach we are using.
>> Thanks!
>> Dave
>> 
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Re: Working on Refresh of openoffice.apache.org

2021-06-30 Thread Dave Fisher



> On Jun 30, 2021, at 3:33 PM, Marcus  wrote:
> 
> Am 30.06.21 um 23:47 schrieb Carl Marcum:
>> I think it looks great!
>> I've tested mobile with Firefox's developer tools and my iPhone 11 with 
>> Firefox and that looks great too.
> 
> I had a look on my desktop with Firefox and the difference now - compared 
> with the first steps - is increadible.
> 
> The menu / nav now looks more sorted and clear. The menu items are well 
> aligned and personally I don't miss any icons for them.
> 
> Maybe you can reduce the font size and margins a bit as currently less 
> content is fitting on the page than before without the need to scroll.

I reduced the base font size from 18px to 16px. Tweaked a lot of other margin 
related items slightly. I think we now have a website that reads well even on a 
small iPhone.

Unless there are objections I’ll put it in production in my morning tomorrow.

> 
>> Thanks for your work on this!
> 
> Yes, thanks a lot for making this possible.

My pleasure.

FYI - We can start one content updates once the new design is in production.

Regards,
Dave

> 
> Marcus
> 
> 
> 
>> On 6/30/21 5:13 PM, Dave Fisher wrote:
>>> Hi -
>>> 
>>> I like where everything is now. When I run google’s Lightroom tool in a 
>>> Chrome Incognito window I get scores of 94, 97, 100, and 100.
>>> 
>>>> On Jun 30, 2021, at 1:40 PM, Peter Kovacs  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 30.06.21 20:17, Dave Fisher wrote:
>>>>>> On Jun 30, 2021, at 11:12 AM, Peter Kovacs  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 30.06.21 19:25, Dave Fisher wrote:
>>>>>>> I like the look at https://openoffice-refresh.staged.apache.org/. 
>>>>>>> Please review.
>>>>>> +1, maybe can we have some icons in front of a menu point? like the ASF 
>>>>>> feather in front of the ASF?
>>>>> The feather in front of “The ASF” is possible.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> And maybe an indication which menu point we currently see. Maybe an 
>>>>>> arrow? (if you visit the link and you click on General you would see a 
>>>>>> -> in front of the menu point "About".)
>>>>> I’m counting on bootstrap for the nav menus and I don’t think that is at 
>>>>> all easy. It would likely require keeping information about what menu a 
>>>>> page is part of in the page along with making sure that the page is on 
>>>>> the menu.
>>>> I thought of something like this pseudocode:
>>>> 
>>>> if (window.location.href = this.dropdown-item.href) then this.css = 
>>>> "selected" else this.css = "unselected"?
>>> I get your idea and it could be a way to do it and there is a way to make 
>>> bootstrap menu items inactive.
>>> 
>>> There may be some issues with the comparison as the window.location.href is 
>>> fully qualified while we do not want to use fully qualified urls for the 
>>> dropdown-item hrefs (makes testing the site painful.)
>>> 
>>>> Hmm, bummer seems not that easy.
>>>> 
>>>> So maybe something like:
>>>> 
>>>> const boxes = 
>>>> documentui.dropdown-menu.show.querySelectorAll('#dropdown-item');
>>>> 
>>>> boxes.forEach(box => {
>>>> if (window.location.href = box.dropdown-item.href) then box.css = 
>>>> "selected" else box.css = "unselected"?
>>>> 
>>>> }
>>>> 
>>>> Well something along those lines. I really suck at JS, i just try to write 
>>>> something so you have a better Idea what I thought of. Could well (likely) 
>>>> be this is rubbish.
>>>> 
>>>> So for the pages I tried this approach seem to be pretty neat. Pages that 
>>>> are not listed on the menue, maybe it is the qwuestion where they belong, 
>>>> anyhow.
>>> Actually, I would want to learn how to customize Bootstrap 5 first, but I’m 
>>> not going to do that right now.
>>> 
>>>>>>> There were numerous tweaks needed. The current site did not catch the 
>>>>>>> rename of volunteer@ to recruitment@.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Unless there are objections I plan to squash & merge after I get the 
>>>>>>> mobile view better.
>>>>>> I tried earlier today on my phone and it did look promisin

Re: Working on Refresh of openoffice.apache.org

2021-07-01 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi -

The refresh is now completed and merged into the main branch.

I’ll be working on text describing the websites. The README.md is already 
changed.

Regards,
Dave

> On Jun 30, 2021, at 8:23 PM, Peter Kovacs  wrote:
> 
> 
> On 01.07.21 03:11, Dave Fisher wrote:
>> 
>>> On Jun 30, 2021, at 3:33 PM, Marcus  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Am 30.06.21 um 23:47 schrieb Carl Marcum:
>>>> I think it looks great!
>>>> I've tested mobile with Firefox's developer tools and my iPhone 11 with 
>>>> Firefox and that looks great too.
>>> I had a look on my desktop with Firefox and the difference now - compared 
>>> with the first steps - is increadible.
>>> 
>>> The menu / nav now looks more sorted and clear. The menu items are well 
>>> aligned and personally I don't miss any icons for them.
>>> 
>>> Maybe you can reduce the font size and margins a bit as currently less 
>>> content is fitting on the page than before without the need to scroll.
>> I reduced the base font size from 18px to 16px. Tweaked a lot of other 
>> margin related items slightly. I think we now have a website that reads well 
>> even on a small iPhone.
>> 
>> Unless there are objections I’ll put it in production in my morning tomorrow.
> +1, please go ahead. It looks great to me. My suggestions are only 
> suggestions and taste.
>> 
>>>> Thanks for your work on this!
>>> Yes, thanks a lot for making this possible.
>> My pleasure.
>> 
>> FYI - We can start one content updates once the new design is in production.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Dave
>> 
>>> Marcus
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 6/30/21 5:13 PM, Dave Fisher wrote:
>>>>> Hi -
>>>>> 
>>>>> I like where everything is now. When I run google’s Lightroom tool in a 
>>>>> Chrome Incognito window I get scores of 94, 97, 100, and 100.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jun 30, 2021, at 1:40 PM, Peter Kovacs  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 30.06.21 20:17, Dave Fisher wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Jun 30, 2021, at 11:12 AM, Peter Kovacs  wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 30.06.21 19:25, Dave Fisher wrote:
>>>>>>>>> I like the look at https://openoffice-refresh.staged.apache.org/. 
>>>>>>>>> Please review.
>>>>>>>> +1, maybe can we have some icons in front of a menu point? like the 
>>>>>>>> ASF feather in front of the ASF?
>>>>>>> The feather in front of “The ASF” is possible.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> And maybe an indication which menu point we currently see. Maybe an 
>>>>>>>> arrow? (if you visit the link and you click on General you would see a 
>>>>>>>> -> in front of the menu point "About".)
>>>>>>> I’m counting on bootstrap for the nav menus and I don’t think that is 
>>>>>>> at all easy. It would likely require keeping information about what 
>>>>>>> menu a page is part of in the page along with making sure that the page 
>>>>>>> is on the menu.
>>>>>> I thought of something like this pseudocode:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> if (window.location.href = this.dropdown-item.href) then this.css = 
>>>>>> "selected" else this.css = "unselected"?
>>>>> I get your idea and it could be a way to do it and there is a way to make 
>>>>> bootstrap menu items inactive.
>>>>> 
>>>>> There may be some issues with the comparison as the window.location.href 
>>>>> is fully qualified while we do not want to use fully qualified urls for 
>>>>> the dropdown-item hrefs (makes testing the site painful.)
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hmm, bummer seems not that easy.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> So maybe something like:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> const boxes = 
>>>>>> documentui.dropdown-menu.show.querySelectorAll('#dropdown-item');
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> boxes.forEach(box => {
>>>>>> if (window.location.href = box.dropdown-item.href) then box.css = 
>>>>>> "selected" else box.css = "unselected"?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> }
>>>>

Re: LAZY CONSENSUS: change IRC links from Freenode to Libera.Chat

2021-08-05 Thread Dave Fisher



> On Aug 5, 2021, at 1:11 PM, Arrigo Marchiori  wrote:
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> following Carl's very good advice, here is my proposal:
> 
>  I will merge https://github.com/apache/openoffice-org/pull/57
>  consisting of changing IRC links from Freenode into Libera Chat, if
>  no one objects within August 10th.

I don’t see any reason to wait. We aren’t going back to Freenode …

Make it so!

Regards,
Dave

> 
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> -- 
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Re: devtools

2021-08-06 Thread Dave Fisher
Within /Apache/OpenOffice.git repository? Or a new 
/Apache/OpenOffice-devtools.git?

+1, especially if history is preserved.

Of course there would be wiki and webpages to update.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 6, 2021, at 9:31 AM, Jim Jagielski  wrote:
> 
> Our devtools repo is till under svn; should we switch it to git. It would be 
> nice, I think, to use on version control implementation for all our code 
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Re: OpenOffice 4.1.10 crashes when loading .odm file

2021-08-19 Thread Dave Fisher
I confirm the crash as well on macOS 10.15.7 - MacBook Pro (15-inch, 2016) - 
2.6 GHz Quad-Core Intel Core i7

Thread 13 Crashed:
0   libobjc.A.dylib 0x7fff6bc2681d objc_msgSend + 29
1   libvcl.dylib0x0001038d5ff6 
DragSource::~DragSource() + 374
2   libvcl.dylib0x0001038d60ce 
DragSource::~DragSource() + 14
3   libvcl.dylib0x0001038d6608 
com::sun::star::uno::Exception::~Exception() + 24
4   libc++abi.dylib 0x7fff6a10b2d0 
__cxa_decrement_exception_refcount + 35
5   libvcl.dylib0x000103b83180 
Window::GetDragSource() + 1984
6   libvcl.dylib0x000103b825e4 
Window::GetDropTarget() + 84
7   libvcl.dylib0x000103b8328d 
Window::GetDragGestureRecognizer() + 29
8   libvcl.dylib0x000103929538 
Edit::ImplInit(Window*, long) + 376
9   libvcl.dylib0x000103929346 Edit::Edit(Window*, 
long) + 246
10  libsvt.dylib0x000102dce846 
MultiLineEdit::MultiLineEdit(Window*, long) + 22
11  libsvt.dylib0x000102ede329 CreateWindow + 105
12  libootk.dylib   0x0001031d9745 
VCLXToolkit::ImplCreateWindow(com::sun::star::awt::WindowDescriptor const&, 
long) + 197
13  libootk.dylib   0x0001031d9b34 non-virtual thunk to 
VCLXToolkit::createWindow(com::sun::star::awt::WindowDescriptor const&) + 20
14  libootk.dylib   0x00010329625d 
UnoControl::createPeer(com::sun::star::uno::Reference
 const&, com::sun::star::uno::Reference 
const&) + 2621
15  libootk.dylib   0x0001032a9cf5 
UnoEditControl::createPeer(com::sun::star::uno::Reference
 const&, com::sun::star::uno::Reference 
const&) + 21
16  libootk.dylib   0x00010329ec67 
UnoControlContainer::createPeer(com::sun::star::uno::Reference
 const&, com::sun::star::uno::Reference 
const&) + 919
17  libootk.dylib   0x000103241016 
UnoDialogControl::createPeer(com::sun::star::uno::Reference
 const&, com::sun::star::uno::Reference 
const&) + 54
18  updchk.uno.dylib0x00010ab99df3 
UpdateHandler::createDialog() + 16659
19  updchk.uno.dylib0x00010ab95a1f 
UpdateHandler::setVisible(bool) + 63
20  updchk.uno.dylib0x00010ab84b17 
UpdateCheck::showDialog(bool) + 215
21  updchk.uno.dylib0x00010ab8a55c 0x10ab7a000 + 66908
22  libsofficeapp.dylib 0x0001022bc39f threadFunc + 15
23  libuno_sal.dylib0x00010209db69 0x102093000 + 43881
24  libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x7fff6cfe0109 _pthread_start + 148
25  libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x7fff6cfdbb8b thread_start + 15

Thread 13 crashed with X86 Thread State (64-bit):
  rax: 0x000103c021a0  rbx: 0x614987e0  rcx: 0x  
rdx: 0x
  rdi: 0x002e006d006f0063  rsi: 0x7fff7715edd3  rbp: 0x7f4f07c0  
rsp: 0x7f4f07a8
   r8: 0x000130a8   r9: 0x  r10: 0x  
r11: 0x7fff7715edd3
  r12: 0x0001  r13: 0x7fab4380e570  r14: 0x7fab3580b5a0  
r15: 0x7f4f08e0
  rip: 0x7fff6bc2681d  rfl: 0x00010202  cr2: 0x0018
  
Logical CPU: 0
Error Code:  0x0004 (no mapping for user data read)
Trap Number: 14


> On Aug 13, 2021, at 2:20 PM, Matthias Seidel  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Michael,
> 
> Am 12.08.21 um 22:58 schrieb Michael Bouschen:
>> Hi Matthias,
>> 
>> I just updated to macOS 11.5.2 -  "Check for Updates" still crashes. 
>> But I have an i7 machine, so it is running OpenOffice directly. 
> 
> I can confirm the crash on macOS Catalina 10.15.7.
> 
> Regards,
> 
>Matthias
> 
>> 
>> Regards Michael
>> 
>>> Hi Michael,
>>> 
>>> Good to hear!
>>> 
>>> Amazingly, I could just "Check for Updates" on macOS 11.5.2 without a
>>> problem/crash.
>>> (This is an M1 machine, so AOO 4.1.10 is running via Rosetta 2)
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>>Matthias
>>> 
>>> Am 12.08.21 um 21:03 schrieb Michael Bouschen:
 Hi Jim, hi Matthias,
 
 I just saw your proposal to disable "Check for Updates" in the
 preferences. Thanks for the hint.
 
 I reinstalled OpenOffice 4.1.10, disabled "Check for Updates" and loaded
 the document w/o any issues. When I then click on the "Ckeck now" button
 in "Online Update" it immediately crashes. 
 
 So I think there is a bug in the Check For Updates function, but
 disabling "Check for Updates" is a workaround allowing me to continue
 with OpenOffice 4.1.10.
 
 Regards Michael
 
> The Crash Report indicates that it is the Check For Updates function that 
> causes the problem. Some weirdness with serf and SSL certs.
> 
>

Re: OpenOffice 4.1.10 crashes when loading .odm file

2021-08-19 Thread Dave Fisher
Oops. I can confirm the crash on the 4.2.0dev3.

4.1.10 works well. I suspect that there is something funny with errors in the 
check update process.

> On Aug 19, 2021, at 12:44 PM, Dave Fisher  wrote:
> 
> I confirm the crash as well on macOS 10.15.7 - MacBook Pro (15-inch, 2016) - 
> 2.6 GHz Quad-Core Intel Core i7
> 
> Thread 13 Crashed:
> 0   libobjc.A.dylib   0x7fff6bc2681d objc_msgSend + 29
> 1   libvcl.dylib  0x0001038d5ff6 
> DragSource::~DragSource() + 374
> 2   libvcl.dylib  0x0001038d60ce 
> DragSource::~DragSource() + 14
> 3   libvcl.dylib  0x0001038d6608 
> com::sun::star::uno::Exception::~Exception() + 24
> 4   libc++abi.dylib   0x7fff6a10b2d0 
> __cxa_decrement_exception_refcount + 35
> 5   libvcl.dylib  0x000103b83180 
> Window::GetDragSource() + 1984
> 6   libvcl.dylib  0x000103b825e4 
> Window::GetDropTarget() + 84
> 7   libvcl.dylib  0x000103b8328d 
> Window::GetDragGestureRecognizer() + 29
> 8   libvcl.dylib  0x000103929538 
> Edit::ImplInit(Window*, long) + 376
> 9   libvcl.dylib  0x000103929346 Edit::Edit(Window*, 
> long) + 246
> 10  libsvt.dylib  0x000102dce846 
> MultiLineEdit::MultiLineEdit(Window*, long) + 22
> 11  libsvt.dylib  0x000102ede329 CreateWindow + 105
> 12  libootk.dylib 0x0001031d9745 
> VCLXToolkit::ImplCreateWindow(com::sun::star::awt::WindowDescriptor const&, 
> long) + 197
> 13  libootk.dylib 0x0001031d9b34 non-virtual thunk to 
> VCLXToolkit::createWindow(com::sun::star::awt::WindowDescriptor const&) + 20
> 14  libootk.dylib 0x00010329625d 
> UnoControl::createPeer(com::sun::star::uno::Reference
>  const&, com::sun::star::uno::Reference 
> const&) + 2621
> 15  libootk.dylib 0x0001032a9cf5 
> UnoEditControl::createPeer(com::sun::star::uno::Reference
>  const&, com::sun::star::uno::Reference 
> const&) + 21
> 16  libootk.dylib 0x00010329ec67 
> UnoControlContainer::createPeer(com::sun::star::uno::Reference
>  const&, com::sun::star::uno::Reference 
> const&) + 919
> 17  libootk.dylib 0x000103241016 
> UnoDialogControl::createPeer(com::sun::star::uno::Reference
>  const&, com::sun::star::uno::Reference 
> const&) + 54
> 18  updchk.uno.dylib  0x00010ab99df3 
> UpdateHandler::createDialog() + 16659
> 19  updchk.uno.dylib  0x00010ab95a1f 
> UpdateHandler::setVisible(bool) + 63
> 20  updchk.uno.dylib  0x00010ab84b17 
> UpdateCheck::showDialog(bool) + 215
> 21  updchk.uno.dylib  0x00010ab8a55c 0x10ab7a000 + 66908
> 22  libsofficeapp.dylib   0x0001022bc39f threadFunc + 15
> 23  libuno_sal.dylib  0x00010209db69 0x102093000 + 43881
> 24  libsystem_pthread.dylib   0x7fff6cfe0109 _pthread_start + 148
> 25  libsystem_pthread.dylib   0x7fff6cfdbb8b thread_start + 15
> 
> Thread 13 crashed with X86 Thread State (64-bit):
>  rax: 0x000103c021a0  rbx: 0x614987e0  rcx: 0x  
> rdx: 0x
>  rdi: 0x002e006d006f0063  rsi: 0x7fff7715edd3  rbp: 0x7f4f07c0  
> rsp: 0x7f4f07a8
>   r8: 0x000130a8   r9: 0x  r10: 0x  
> r11: 0x7fff7715edd3
>  r12: 0x0001  r13: 0x7fab4380e570  r14: 0x7fab3580b5a0  
> r15: 0x7f4f08e0
>  rip: 0x7fff6bc2681d  rfl: 0x00010202  cr2: 0x0018
> 
> Logical CPU: 0
> Error Code:  0x0004 (no mapping for user data read)
> Trap Number: 14
> 
> 
>> On Aug 13, 2021, at 2:20 PM, Matthias Seidel  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Michael,
>> 
>> Am 12.08.21 um 22:58 schrieb Michael Bouschen:
>>> Hi Matthias,
>>> 
>>> I just updated to macOS 11.5.2 -  "Check for Updates" still crashes. 
>>> But I have an i7 machine, so it is running OpenOffice directly. 
>> 
>> I can confirm the crash on macOS Catalina 10.15.7.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>>   Matthias
>> 
>>> 
>>> Regards Michael
>>> 
>>>> Hi Michael,
>>>> 
>>>> Good to hear!
>>>> 
>>>> Amazingly, I could just "Check for Updates" on macOS 11.5.2 without a
>>>> problem/crash.
>>>> (This is an M1 machine, so AOO 4.1.

Re: Diference between AOO_4.5.0 and AOO_4.2.0 in Debian 9.

2021-08-22 Thread Dave Fisher
4.5.0 is some build based on the trunk branch sometime ago while the 4.2.0 dev 
builds on based on the AOO42X branch recently. You should be testing on the 
AOO42X builds.

Trunk is the bleeding edge.

> On Aug 22, 2021, at 8:23 AM, Delio Orozco Gonzalez 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi all: 
> 
> Apache_OpenOffice_4.5.0_Linux_x86-64_install-deb_en-US_2021-08-22_04:14:26 
> still does not work in Debian 9, unlike 
> Apache_OpenOffice_4.2.0_Linux_x86-64_install-deb_es.tar that works without 
> any problem. 
> 
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> 
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Re: Diference between AOO_4.5.0 and AOO_4.2.0 in Debian 9.

2021-08-25 Thread Dave Fisher



> On Aug 25, 2021, at 11:09 AM, Delio Orozco Gonzalez 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hello Matthias:
> 
> I just tried the version of AOO 4.5.0_en_US. I did not compile it, I 
> downloaded it from: 
> 
> https://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/install/linux64/Apache_OpenOffice_4.5.0_Linux_x86-64_install-deb_en-US_2021-08-24_04%3A14%3A06_8927ee86bef23fd08661b88a59493a46e7017564.tar.gz

FYI - The CI nightly builds are about to be migrated to an updated buildbot by 
Infra and locations will change. I suggest that unless the fix is easy that it 
be deferred until the Infra migration is complete.

Regards,
Dave

> 
> I downloaded version 4.2.0_es from:
> 
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/openoffice/4.2.0-Dev3/binaries/es/Apache_OpenOffice_4.2.0_Linux_x86_install-deb_es.tar.gz
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Delio.
> 
> - Mensaje original -
> De: "Matthias Seidel" 
> Para: "dev" 
> Enviados: Lunes, 23 de Agosto 2021 11:36:47
> Asunto: Re: Diference between AOO_4.5.0 and AOO_4.2.0 in Debian 9.
> 
> Hi Delio,
> 
> Am 23.08.21 um 02:23 schrieb Delio Orozco Gonzalez:
>> Hi Matthias:
>> 
>> I download AOO-4.5.0 from:
>> 
>> https://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/install/linux64/
> 
> I thought about the 4.2.0 version. Did you build it yourself? Did you
> test "en-US" instead of "es"?
> 
> What is your Operating System?
> 
> We need some more details, I guess.
> 
> Regards,
> 
>Matthias
> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Delio.
>> 
>> - Mensaje original -
>> De: "Matthias Seidel" 
>> Para: "dev" 
>> Enviados: Domingo, 22 de Agosto 2021 17:49:28
>> Asunto: Re: Diference between AOO_4.5.0 and AOO_4.2.0 in Debian 9.
>> 
>> Hi Delio,
>> 
>> Am 22.08.21 um 17:23 schrieb Delio Orozco Gonzalez:
>>> Hi all: 
>>> 
>>> Apache_OpenOffice_4.5.0_Linux_x86-64_install-deb_en-US_2021-08-22_04:14:26 
>>> still does not work in Debian 9, unlike 
>>> Apache_OpenOffice_4.2.0_Linux_x86-64_install-deb_es.tar that works without 
>>> any problem. 
>> Where did you get the TAR from?!
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>>Matthias
>> 
>>> Regards, 
>>> 
>>> Delio. 
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Re: Translation website: certificate issue

2021-08-30 Thread Dave Fisher
I just submitted a ticket. The cert expired yesterday.

Sent from my iPhone

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> 
> Hello,
> 
> I don't know if infra is concerned
> When I try to access to
> https://translate.apache.org
> An error occurs: SEC_ERROR_EXPIRED_CERTIFICATE
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Re: Translation website: certificate issue

2021-08-30 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi -

Should be good to go. Please let us know if there are any other issues.

Regards,
Dave

> On Aug 30, 2021, at 10:39 AM, Dave Fisher  wrote:
> 
> I just submitted a ticket. The cert expired yesterday.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
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>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> I don't know if infra is concerned
>> When I try to access to
>> https://translate.apache.org
>> An error occurs: SEC_ERROR_EXPIRED_CERTIFICATE
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macOS Digital Signature Setup for AOO

2021-09-10 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi -

I think our setup for macOS digital signatures is hopelessly out of date.

https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Certificate_Detection 


Has anyone configured AOO 4.1.10 on macOS? How did you do it?

Regards,
Dave

Re: macOS Digital Signature Setup for AOO

2021-09-14 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi -

I’ve figured out how to do this, but it is cumbersome and requires manual steps.

(1) Configure your P12 certificate in Firefox.
(2) Find the location "~/Library/Application Support/Firefox/Profiles/."
(3) In Terminal.app export the environment variable as fits your case. Here is 
mine:
# export MOZILLA_CERTIFICATE_FOLDER="sql:/Users/davewave/Library/Application 
Support/Firefox/Profiles/hk7tw91t.default-release-1631294076295”
# open -a 'OpenOffice'

I don’t see how to set an environment variable when opening from the Finder. So 
if you want to do digital signature on macOS then you will need to use Terminal.

Regards,
Dave

> On Sep 11, 2021, at 7:27 AM, Matthias Seidel  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Dave,
> 
> Am 10.09.21 um 22:07 schrieb Dave Fisher:
>> Hi -
>> 
>> I think our setup for macOS digital signatures is hopelessly out of date.
>> 
>> https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Certificate_Detection 
>> <https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Certificate_Detection>
> I didn't even know that Firefox is needed on macOS for that purpose...
>> 
>> Has anyone configured AOO 4.1.10 on macOS? How did you do it?
> 
> I have only access to our machine on MacStadium, but I will have a look.
> 
> Regards,
> 
>Matthias
> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Dave
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Re: AOO41X: Time for RC1?

2021-09-17 Thread Dave Fisher
Yes

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 17, 2021, at 2:09 AM, Pedro Lino  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Matthias
> 
>>> On 09/16/2021 10:35 PM Matthias Seidel  wrote:
>> 
>> Apparently we needed another fix...
>> 
>> I am doing a Test Build for Windows right now and will upload it to my
>> Apache home directory tomorrow.
> 
> If I compile now from branch AOO41X will it include all these fixes?
> 
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Re: AOO41X: Time for RC1?

2021-09-17 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi Pedro,

> On Sep 17, 2021, at 9:29 AM, Pedro Lino  
> wrote:
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> AOO4111m1(Build:9808)  -  Rev. 8167b394bd
> 2021-09-17 13:41 - Linux x86_64
> 
> Compiled successfully, installed and is working without any hitches

Try signing a document and then reopening.

Regards,
Dave

> 
> Regards,
> Pedro
> 
>> On 09/17/2021 10:27 AM Dave Fisher  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Yes
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
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>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Matthias
>>> 
>>>>> On 09/16/2021 10:35 PM Matthias Seidel  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Apparently we needed another fix...
>>>> 
>>>> I am doing a Test Build for Windows right now and will upload it to my
>>>> Apache home directory tomorrow.
>>> 
>>> If I compile now from branch AOO41X will it include all these fixes?
>>> 
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Re: AOO41X: Time for RC1?

2021-09-21 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi -

Test builds of AOO41X HEAD

The signing bug should be fixed as long as you are using an NSS/Mozilla 
keystore on macOS or Linux

macOS - thanks Jim
http://home.apache.org/~jim/AOO-builds/AOO-4.1.11-test/

windows - thanks Matthias
https://www.dropbox.com/s/912galt8kr7wiem/Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.11_Win_x86_install_en-US.exe?dl=0

linux
We are waiting for someone to do a build.

Regards,
Dave

> On Sep 18, 2021, at 5:06 AM, Pedro Lino  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Dave
> 
> I can't sign any document.
> I have my own Certificate (from my European ID Card)
> It shows up on the Windows certmgr.msc under Personal but does not show up on 
> AOO 4.1.11 (AOO4111m1(Build:9808)  -  Rev. 8167b394bd) built by Matthias
> I also have a personal SSH key in Linux which AOO 4.1.11 can not use...
> 
> Any ideas?
> 
> Regards,
> Pedro
> 
>> On 09/17/2021 6:49 PM Dave Fisher  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Pedro,
>> 
>>> On Sep 17, 2021, at 9:29 AM, Pedro Lino  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks!
>>> 
>>> AOO4111m1(Build:9808)  -  Rev. 8167b394bd
>>> 2021-09-17 13:41 - Linux x86_64
>>> 
>>> Compiled successfully, installed and is working without any hitches
>> 
>> Try signing a document and then reopening.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Dave
>> 
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Pedro
>>> 
>>>> On 09/17/2021 10:27 AM Dave Fisher  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Yes
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On Sep 17, 2021, at 2:09 AM, Pedro Lino  
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Matthias
>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 09/16/2021 10:35 PM Matthias Seidel  
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Apparently we needed another fix...
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I am doing a Test Build for Windows right now and will upload it to my
>>>>>> Apache home directory tomorrow.
>>>>> 
>>>>> If I compile now from branch AOO41X will it include all these fixes?
>>>>> 
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>>>>> Pedro
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Re: AOO41X: Time for RC1?

2021-09-21 Thread Dave Fisher



> On Sep 21, 2021, at 1:07 PM, Dave Fisher  wrote:
> 
> Hi -
> 
> Test builds of AOO41X HEAD
> 
> The signing bug should be fixed as long as you are using an NSS/Mozilla 
> keystore on macOS or Linux
> 
> macOS - thanks Jim
> http://home.apache.org/~jim/AOO-builds/AOO-4.1.11-test/
> 
> windows - thanks Matthias
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/912galt8kr7wiem/Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.11_Win_x86_install_en-US.exe?dl=0
> 
> linux
> We are waiting for someone to do a build.

Jim is building ….

> 
> Regards,
> Dave
> 
>> On Sep 18, 2021, at 5:06 AM, Pedro Lino  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Dave
>> 
>> I can't sign any document.
>> I have my own Certificate (from my European ID Card)
>> It shows up on the Windows certmgr.msc under Personal but does not show up 
>> on AOO 4.1.11 (AOO4111m1(Build:9808)  -  Rev. 8167b394bd) built by Matthias
>> I also have a personal SSH key in Linux which AOO 4.1.11 can not use...
>> 
>> Any ideas?
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Pedro
>> 
>>> On 09/17/2021 6:49 PM Dave Fisher  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi Pedro,
>>> 
>>>> On Sep 17, 2021, at 9:29 AM, Pedro Lino  
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks!
>>>> 
>>>> AOO4111m1(Build:9808)  -  Rev. 8167b394bd
>>>> 2021-09-17 13:41 - Linux x86_64
>>>> 
>>>> Compiled successfully, installed and is working without any hitches
>>> 
>>> Try signing a document and then reopening.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Dave
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Pedro
>>>> 
>>>>> On 09/17/2021 10:27 AM Dave Fisher  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Yes
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sep 17, 2021, at 2:09 AM, Pedro Lino  
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Matthias
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 09/16/2021 10:35 PM Matthias Seidel  
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Apparently we needed another fix...
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I am doing a Test Build for Windows right now and will upload it to my
>>>>>>> Apache home directory tomorrow.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> If I compile now from branch AOO41X will it include all these fixes?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Pedro
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Re: AOO41X: Time for RC1?

2021-09-27 Thread Dave Fisher
I’ve smoked tested the macOS en-US version.

Start testing people!

SDK at 
https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/openoffice/4.1.11-RC1/binaries/SDK/ 
<https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/openoffice/4.1.11-RC1/binaries/SDK/>
Source at https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/openoffice/4.1.11-RC1/source/ 
<https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/openoffice/4.1.11-RC1/source/>

> On Sep 27, 2021, at 12:56 PM, Matthias Seidel  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> it seems that all binaries are now uploaded...
> 
> Time to call for testing?
> 
> Regards,
> 
>Matthias
> 
> Am 23.09.21 um 15:48 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I have uploaded all Windows binaries to:
>> 
>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/openoffice/4.1.11-RC1/binaries/
>> 
>> Although we have not yet announced AOO 4.1.11-RC1 officially please feel
>> free to download and test them!
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>>Matthias
>> 
>> P.S.: Linux/macOS builds will be uploaded next week
>> 
>> Am 22.09.21 um 17:33 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I would be ready to upload the Windows binaries if we want to announce RC1?
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>>Matthias
>>> 
>>> Am 21.09.21 um 23:15 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> 
>>>> Am 21.09.21 um 22:42 schrieb Pedro Lino:
>>>>> Hi Dave, all
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 09/21/2021 9:07 PM Dave Fisher  wrote:
>>>>>> windows - thanks Matthias
>>>>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/912galt8kr7wiem/Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.11_Win_x86_install_en-US.exe?dl=0
>>>>> Installed and tested signing a document. Works as expected
>>>>> 
>>>>>> linux
>>>>>> We are waiting for someone to do a build.
>>>>> Can sign on Ubuntu 18.04 x64 using my PGP certificate
>>>>> 
>>>>> Unless there is a problem on Mac, seems like ready to go?
>>>> It looks good for me!
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> 
>>>>Matthias
>>>> 
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Pedro
>>>>> 
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Re: AOO41X: Time for RC1?

2021-09-28 Thread Dave Fisher


> On Sep 28, 2021, at 2:44 AM, Pedro Lino  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Dave
> 
> I'm downloading the Source now.
> 
> Is there any technical reason why dist.apache.org listings only show the file 
> name?
> Would it be possible to have them show the file details like in
> https://downloads.apache.org/openoffice/4.1.10/source/
> ?

You can get a file size from a command line like this:

% svn ls --xml 
https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/openoffice/4.1.11-RC1/binaries/en-US/Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.11_Linux_x86-64_install-deb_en-US.tar.gz


https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/openoffice/4.1.11-RC1/binaries/en-US/Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.11_Linux_x86-64_install-deb_en-US.tar.gz";>

Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.11_Linux_x86-64_install-deb_en-US.tar.gz
166255147

jim
2021-09-27T16:21:34.192743Z






> 
> I really like to know the size of the file I'm downloading before starting 
> (to decide if it is something to be done on Wifi, on Mobile data or on 
> ethernet)
> 
> Should this be requested to Infra?

We could. I’ll ask informally.

Regards,
Dave

> 
> Regards,
> Pedro
> 
> 
>> On 09/27/2021 9:08 PM Dave Fisher  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> I’ve smoked tested the macOS en-US version.
>> 
>> Start testing people!
>> 
>> SDK at 
>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/openoffice/4.1.11-RC1/binaries/SDK/ 
>> <https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/openoffice/4.1.11-RC1/binaries/SDK/>
>> Source at 
>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/openoffice/4.1.11-RC1/source/ 
>> <https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/openoffice/4.1.11-RC1/source/>
>> 
>>> On Sep 27, 2021, at 12:56 PM, Matthias Seidel  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> it seems that all binaries are now uploaded...
>>> 
>>> Time to call for testing?
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>>   Matthias
>>> 
>>> Am 23.09.21 um 15:48 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> 
>>>> I have uploaded all Windows binaries to:
>>>> 
>>>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/openoffice/4.1.11-RC1/binaries/
>>>> 
>>>> Although we have not yet announced AOO 4.1.11-RC1 officially please feel
>>>> free to download and test them!
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> 
>>>>   Matthias
>>>> 
>>>> P.S.: Linux/macOS builds will be uploaded next week
>>>> 
>>>> Am 22.09.21 um 17:33 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I would be ready to upload the Windows binaries if we want to announce 
>>>>> RC1?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> 
>>>>>   Matthias
>>>>> 
>>>>> Am 21.09.21 um 23:15 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Am 21.09.21 um 22:42 schrieb Pedro Lino:
>>>>>>> Hi Dave, all
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 09/21/2021 9:07 PM Dave Fisher  wrote:
>>>>>>>> windows - thanks Matthias
>>>>>>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/912galt8kr7wiem/Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.11_Win_x86_install_en-US.exe?dl=0
>>>>>>> Installed and tested signing a document. Works as expected
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> linux
>>>>>>>> We are waiting for someone to do a build.
>>>>>>> Can sign on Ubuntu 18.04 x64 using my PGP certificate
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Unless there is a problem on Mac, seems like ready to go?
>>>>>> It looks good for me!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>   Matthias
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> Pedro
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Future - Digital Signatures

2021-09-28 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi Pedro,

I think that AOO42X and Trunk need to improve in three ways.

(1) We need to make sure that we hook to the systems native key store and/or a 
Mozilla keystone.
Setup may need to be improved.
(2) We need to allow a PGP and EU card key to be selected and converted to X509 
internally while signing.
It looks like ODF 1.3 spec makes no changes to ODF 1.2 in terms of 
digital signatures.
(3) We need to properly display whatever signatures are on the document.

What happens when you inspect the digital signatures of a file signed in LO 
with PGP and EU card in AOO 4.1.11 RC?

Regards,
Dave

> On Sep 18, 2021, at 5:06 AM, Pedro Lino  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Dave
> 
> I can't sign any document.
> I have my own Certificate (from my European ID Card)
> It shows up on the Windows certmgr.msc under Personal but does not show up on 
> AOO 4.1.11 (AOO4111m1(Build:9808)  -  Rev. 8167b394bd) built by Matthias
> I also have a personal SSH key in Linux which AOO 4.1.11 can not use...
> 
> Any ideas?
> 
> Regards,
> Pedro
> 
>> On 09/17/2021 6:49 PM Dave Fisher  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Pedro,
>> 
>>> On Sep 17, 2021, at 9:29 AM, Pedro Lino  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks!
>>> 
>>> AOO4111m1(Build:9808)  -  Rev. 8167b394bd
>>> 2021-09-17 13:41 - Linux x86_64
>>> 
>>> Compiled successfully, installed and is working without any hitches
>> 
>> Try signing a document and then reopening.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Dave
>> 
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Pedro
>>> 
>>>> On 09/17/2021 10:27 AM Dave Fisher  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Yes
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On Sep 17, 2021, at 2:09 AM, Pedro Lino  
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Matthias
>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 09/16/2021 10:35 PM Matthias Seidel  
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Apparently we needed another fix...
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I am doing a Test Build for Windows right now and will upload it to my
>>>>>> Apache home directory tomorrow.
>>>>> 
>>>>> If I compile now from branch AOO41X will it include all these fixes?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Pedro
>>>>> 
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Re: AOO41X: Time for RC1?

2021-09-29 Thread Dave Fisher
Does the behavior change if you use the Terminal window to explicitly set the 
environment and then `open -a OpenOffice`?

I had to do that in Catalina to access a Mozzila keystore.

> On Sep 29, 2021, at 8:03 AM, Rony G. Flatscher  
> wrote:
> 
> On 28.09.2021 22:25, Jim Jagielski wrote:
>> Is this a regression?
> 
> Not really sure, it used to work on AOO 4.1.10 AFAICR, but now, testing 
> against 4.1.10 the same
> problem occurs, although java.library.path has a different value compared to 
> 4.1.11:
> 
>
> java.library.path=[.:/Users/rony/Library/Java/Extensions:/Library/Java/Extensions:/Network/Library/Java/Extensions:/System/Library/Java/Extensions:/usr/lib/java:.]
> 
>java.runtime.version=[9.0.4+11]
> 
> However, I did update the operating system in between which now is macOS Big 
> Sur 11.6.
> 
> My (pure!) speculation is, that dlopen() on BigSur does not honor 
> DYLD_FALLBACK_LIBRARY_PATH which
> includes ~/lib:/usr/local/lib:/usr/lib, cf. [1], [2].
> 
> However, "man dlopen" would document that if DYLD_FALLBACK_LIBRARY_PATH was 
> not set, then dlopen
> operates as if this environment variable was set to 
> $HOME/lib:/usr/local/lib:/usr/lib. If that was
> the case then libBSF4ooRexx.dylib would be found as it is in /usr/local/lib, 
> but it is not (hence
> speculating).
> 
> So maybe these libraries should be explicitly added to the java.library.path 
> on Darwin to have
> System.loadLibrary(name) look through them.
> 
> ---rony
> 
> [1]  "Using Dynamic Libraries":
> <https://developer.apple.com/library/archive/documentation/DeveloperTools/Conceptual/DynamicLibraries/100-Articles/UsingDynamicLibraries.html>
> 
> [2] Manpage for dlopen(3):
> <https://developer.apple.com/library/archive/documentation/System/Conceptual/ManPages_iPhoneOS/man3/dlopen.3.html>
> 
> 
>> 
>>> On Sep 28, 2021, at 1:36 PM, Rony G. Flatscher  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Tested the MacOS version and ran into a problem: AOO does not consult 
>>> "/usr/local/lib" on MacOS when
>>> loading a native library.  Also, on "java.library.path" there seems to be a 
>>> wrong directory
>>> ("/Applications/OpenOffice.app/Contents").
>>> 
>>> The setting of "java.library.path" in effect:
>>> 
>>>   
>>> java.library.path=[/Applications/OpenOffice.app/Contents:/Users/rony/Library/Java/Extensions:/Library/Java/Extensions:/Network/Library/Java/Extensions:/System/Library/Java/Extensions:/usr/lib/java:.]
>>> 
>>>   java.runtime.version=[9.0.4+11]
>>> 
>>> Placing a symbolic link into "/Applications/OpenOffice.app/Contents" allows 
>>> the library
>>> "libBSF4ooRexx.dylib" to be found in this version (and everything then 
>>> works as expected), however
>>> that directory should probably not be defined as it is does not contain any 
>>> native libraries (rather
>>> its subdirectory MacOS does).
>>> 
>>> So, this version does not consult "/usr/local/lib" to find and load 
>>> "libBSF4ooRexx.dylib".
>>> 
>>> ---rony
>>> 
>>> P.S.: Here the relevant stack trace (when attempting to load the scripting 
>>> engine for ooRexx to run
>>> an AOO macro via the Tools -> Macros menu):
>>> 
>>>   Caused by: java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: no BSF4ooRexx in 
>>> java.library.path
>>> at java.base/java.lang.ClassLoader.loadLibrary(ClassLoader.java:2541)
>>> at java.base/java.lang.Runtime.loadLibrary0(Runtime.java:873)
>>> at java.base/java.lang.System.loadLibrary(System.java:1857)
>>> at 
>>> org.rexxla.bsf.engines.rexx.RexxAndJava.(RexxAndJava.java:880)
>>> at 
>>> org.rexxla.bsf.engines.rexx.RexxEngine.initialize(RexxEngine.java:291)
>>> at org.apache.bsf.BSFManager$8.run(BSFManager.java:854)
>>> at java.base/java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
>>> at org.apache.bsf.BSFManager.loadScriptingEngine(BSFManager.java:852)
>>> ... 40 more
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 27.09.2021 21:21, Jim Jagielski wrote:
>>>> The macOS, Linux64 and Linux32 builds are also there!
>>>> 
>>>>> On Sep 23, 2021, at 9:48 AM, Matthias Seidel  
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have uploaded all Windows binaries to:
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/openoffice/4.1.11-R

Re: Future - Digital Signatures

2021-09-29 Thread Dave Fisher



> On Sep 29, 2021, at 8:59 AM, Pedro Lino  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Dave
> 
>> On 09/28/2021 11:35 PM Dave Fisher  wrote:
> 
>> I think that AOO42X and Trunk need to improve in three ways.
>> 
>> (1) We need to make sure that we hook to the systems native key store and/or 
>> a Mozilla keystone.
>>  Setup may need to be improved.
>> (2) We need to allow a PGP and EU card key to be selected and converted to 
>> X509 internally while signing.
>>  It looks like ODF 1.3 spec makes no changes to ODF 1.2 in terms of 
>> digital signatures.
>> (3) We need to properly display whatever signatures are on the document.
> 
> I agree. It is good news that ODF 1.2 supports signatures (although it would 
> be ideal for AOO to move on to ODF 1.3)

To be clear ODF 1.3 has the same spec as 1.2 for digital signatures.

> 
>> What happens when you inspect the digital signatures of a file signed in LO 
>> with PGP and EU card in AOO 4.1.11 RC?
> 
> Document signed with OpenPGP using LO 6.4.7 in Ubuntu 18.04 x64
> - opening with AOO 4.1.11 on the same Ubuntu 18.04 x64 the message is 
> "Digital Signature: The document signature does not match the document 
> content. We strongly recommend you to not trust this document."
> - opening with 4.1.11 on Windows 7 Pro x64 the message is the same but there 
> is a popup window when the document is opened with a serious warning
> https://i.imgur.com/8CloLVl.png
> 
> Document signed with OpenPGP using AOO 4.1.11 in Win7 Pro x64
> - opening with AOO 4.1.11 on Ubuntu 18.04 x64 the message is "Digital 
> Signature: The document signature is OK, but the certificates could not be 
> validated."
> 
> Document signed with EU card
> - opening with AOO 4.1.11 on Ubuntu 18.04 x64 the message is "Digital 
> Signature: The document signature is OK, but the certificates could not be 
> validated."
> - opening with AOO 4.1.11 on Windows 7 Pro x64 (where I have installed the 
> Root certificate for my ID card), the message is "The document signature is 
> OK". If another ID card is used to sign (and the Root certificate for that 
> card is not imported) then the message is the same as under Ubuntu.
> 
> I can share the documents with you by personal email if that helps.

Sure, I’d like to unzip them and inspect the signature xml.

Regards,
Dave

> 
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> Pedro
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Re: Future - Digital Signatures

2021-09-29 Thread Dave Fisher



> On Sep 29, 2021, at 1:05 PM, Arrigo Marchiori  wrote:
> 
> Hello Dave, All,
> 
> On Tue, Sep 28, 2021 at 03:35:30PM -0700, Dave Fisher wrote:
> 
>> Hi Pedro,
>> 
>> I think that AOO42X and Trunk need to improve in three ways.
>> 
>> (1) We need to make sure that we hook to the systems native key store and/or 
>> a Mozilla keystone.
>>  Setup may need to be improved.
>> (2) We need to allow a PGP and EU card key to be selected and converted to 
>> X509 internally while signing.
>>  It looks like ODF 1.3 spec makes no changes to ODF 1.2 in terms of 
>> digital signatures.
>> (3) We need to properly display whatever signatures are on the document.
>> 
>> What happens when you inspect the digital signatures of a file signed in LO 
>> with PGP and EU card in AOO 4.1.11 RC?
> 
> Please let us bear in mind that we have an open pull request [1] about
> upgrading the nss library. It is currently waiting for review, and it
> is stuck on macOS.

We need to know from Jim how a build goes with the PR incorporated in AOO42X.

> 
> Before we begin editing our code, I suggest we merge that pull request
> first.
> 
> 1: https://github.com/apache/openoffice/pull/100

Maybe merge there and see how the next dev build goes?

Regards,
Dave

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Re: Future - Digital Signatures

2021-09-29 Thread Dave Fisher



> On Sep 29, 2021, at 9:10 AM, Dave Fisher  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sep 29, 2021, at 8:59 AM, Pedro Lino  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Dave
>> 
>>> On 09/28/2021 11:35 PM Dave Fisher  wrote:
>> 
>>> I think that AOO42X and Trunk need to improve in three ways.
>>> 
>>> (1) We need to make sure that we hook to the systems native key store 
>>> and/or a Mozilla keystone.
>>> Setup may need to be improved.
>>> (2) We need to allow a PGP and EU card key to be selected and converted to 
>>> X509 internally while signing.
>>> It looks like ODF 1.3 spec makes no changes to ODF 1.2 in terms of 
>>> digital signatures.
>>> (3) We need to properly display whatever signatures are on the document.
>> 
>> I agree. It is good news that ODF 1.2 supports signatures (although it would 
>> be ideal for AOO to move on to ODF 1.3)
> 
> To be clear ODF 1.3 has the same spec as 1.2 for digital signatures.
> 
>> 
>>> What happens when you inspect the digital signatures of a file signed in LO 
>>> with PGP and EU card in AOO 4.1.11 RC?
>> 
>> Document signed with OpenPGP using LO 6.4.7 in Ubuntu 18.04 x64
>> - opening with AOO 4.1.11 on the same Ubuntu 18.04 x64 the message is 
>> "Digital Signature: The document signature does not match the document 
>> content. We strongly recommend you to not trust this document."
>> - opening with 4.1.11 on Windows 7 Pro x64 the message is the same but there 
>> is a popup window when the document is opened with a serious warning
>> https://i.imgur.com/8CloLVl.png

Thanks for sharing the files.

This document was not signed using the ODF 1.2 or 1.3 specification. Instead LO 
implements its own extension.

PGPData 
xmlns:loext="urn:org:documentfoundation:names:experimental:office:xmlns:loext:1.0”

This replaces X509Data when PGP signing is done in LO. I wonder if we can 
implement this without looking at their code.

Regards,
Dave

>> 
>> Document signed with OpenPGP using AOO 4.1.11 in Win7 Pro x64
>> - opening with AOO 4.1.11 on Ubuntu 18.04 x64 the message is "Digital 
>> Signature: The document signature is OK, but the certificates could not be 
>> validated."
>> 
>> Document signed with EU card
>> - opening with AOO 4.1.11 on Ubuntu 18.04 x64 the message is "Digital 
>> Signature: The document signature is OK, but the certificates could not be 
>> validated."
>> - opening with AOO 4.1.11 on Windows 7 Pro x64 (where I have installed the 
>> Root certificate for my ID card), the message is "The document signature is 
>> OK". If another ID card is used to sign (and the Root certificate for that 
>> card is not imported) then the message is the same as under Ubuntu.
>> 
>> I can share the documents with you by personal email if that helps.
> 
> Sure, I’d like to unzip them and inspect the signature xml.
> 
> Regards,
> Dave
> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Pedro
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Re: Future - Digital Signatures

2021-09-29 Thread Dave Fisher



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> On Sep 29, 2021, at 4:42 PM, Regina Henschel  wrote:
> 
> Hi Dave,
> 
> Dave Fisher schrieb am 30.09.2021 um 00:11:
>> This document was not signed using the ODF 1.2 or 1.3 specification. Instead 
>> LO implements its own extension.
>> PGPData 
>> xmlns:loext="urn:org:documentfoundation:names:experimental:office:xmlns:loext:1.0”
> 
> Which version of LibreOffice? For ODF 1.3 you need LibreOffice 7.0, some 
> additions are in 7.1 and 7.2.

Pedro used LO 6.4.7.

I need to inspect an LO 7.2 PGP signed odt.
> 
>> This replaces X509Data when PGP signing is done in LO. I wonder if we can 
>> implement this without looking at their code.
> 
> I don't know whether signatures use the same as OpenPGP encryption. But 
> Thorsten Behrens told me, that LibreOffice uses the gpgme library and that it 
> needs to be included in the distribution at least on Windows and Mac. But 
> gpgme has LGPLv2+ license. So I think, use of LibreOffice's solution is not 
> possible for Apache OpenOffice.

That approach would require an extension provided by a 3rd party or an 
exception to Apache Release Policy.

BouncyCastle/Java could be an alternative as well.

Regards,
Dave


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Re: Future - Digital Signatures

2021-09-30 Thread Dave Fisher



> On Sep 29, 2021, at 5:01 PM, Dave Fisher  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 29, 2021, at 4:42 PM, Regina Henschel  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Dave,
>> 
>> Dave Fisher schrieb am 30.09.2021 um 00:11:
>>> This document was not signed using the ODF 1.2 or 1.3 specification. 
>>> Instead LO implements its own extension.
>>> PGPData 
>>> xmlns:loext="urn:org:documentfoundation:names:experimental:office:xmlns:loext:1.0”
>> 
>> Which version of LibreOffice? For ODF 1.3 you need LibreOffice 7.0, some 
>> additions are in 7.1 and 7.2.
> 
> Pedro used LO 6.4.7.
> 
> I need to inspect an LO 7.2 PGP signed odt.

Pedro sent me a LO 7.2.1 PGP signed odt and it also uses the loext xmlns.

It would be good to understand how xmlns extensions fit into the ODF 
specifications.

>> 
>>> This replaces X509Data when PGP signing is done in LO. I wonder if we can 
>>> implement this without looking at their code.
>> 
>> I don't know whether signatures use the same as OpenPGP encryption. But 
>> Thorsten Behrens told me, that LibreOffice uses the gpgme library and that 
>> it needs to be included in the distribution at least on Windows and Mac. But 
>> gpgme has LGPLv2+ license. So I think, use of LibreOffice's solution is not 
>> possible for Apache OpenOffice.
> 
> That approach would require an extension provided by a 3rd party or an 
> exception to Apache Release Policy.
> 
> BouncyCastle/Java could be an alternative as well.
> 
> Regards,
> Dave
> 
> 
>> 
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Re: Compatibility of new releases with older operating systems

2021-10-05 Thread Dave Fisher
We have these pages:
https://www.openoffice.org/dev_docs/source/sys_reqs_aoo40.html
https://www.openoffice.org/dev_docs/source/sys_reqs_aoo41.html (System 
requirements on download page)
https://github.com/apache/openoffice-org/tree/main/content/dev_docs/source
https://www.openoffice.org/download/platform_hints.html
https://github.com/apache/openoffice-org/blob/main/assets/download/msg_prop_l10n_en.js
 (requirements as text which may be translated)
Most of the whole dev_docs directory is completely out of date, but the md 
files are “on track".

We also have current specs in three md files here although they seem to be 
detached.

https://github.com/apache/openoffice-org/tree/main/content/product
https://www.openoffice.org/product/

I’d like to see

new pages in dev_docs/source/ for aoo42 and trunk
A requirements page in product to replace linux.md, mac.md, and windows.md
Tie the product requirements page to the download pages somehow.


> On Oct 5, 2021, at 3:12 PM, Carl Marcum  wrote:
> 
> Hi Arrigo,
> 
> On 10/5/21 4:00 PM, Arrigo Marchiori wrote:
>> Dear All,
>> 
>> do we have a list of the operating systems' releases that we want to
>> support for each AOO release?
>> 
>> For example: what is the oldest Windows version that AOO 4.1.X must
>> support? And 4.2?
>> And what about macOS versions?
>> 
>> I think I remember a thread from some months ago discussing compilers,
>> but I could not find it from the archives.
>> 
>> If a comprehensive page does not exist, I suggest we make it into our
>> (c)wiki. I would be interested to use it as a compilers' and build
>> tools compatibility matrix.
>> 
>> Thank you in advance to whoever will give me any pointers,
> 
> Aside from email threads here and there about compilers, java versions, etc I 
> can't point to anything.
> Maybe someone can point to something I don't know about.
> 
> I would be good to decide so we know what can be done in 42X vs trunk(450) 
> etc. around compilers, java and whatever else may drive those decisions.

I think that Jim wanted to have macOS 10.9 as the new base: 
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/r6a775ab1c7dfcdb6f85c1fbe22abdba2045ec9cff90900842843fc12%40%3Cdev.openoffice.apache.org%3E

> 
> It's good that we strive to support old OS's but there is a point where a new 
> release will have to drop something just to keep going.

I think that the arguments differ for Linux flavors and Windows versions.

> 
> Thanks for bringing this up.

+1.

Regards,
Dave

> 
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> Carl
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Re: [CLOSED] [DISCUSS][VOTE] Release AOO 4.1.11-RC1 as GA

2021-10-06 Thread Dave Fisher



> On Oct 6, 2021, at 8:16 AM, Matthias Seidel  
> wrote:
> 
> Uploads are complete and files are on at least 20 mirrors.
> 
> SourceForge is ready to go!

I don’t see the files here: 
https://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/

> 
> Regards,
> 
>Matthias
> 
> Am 05.10.21 um 20:58 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>> Hi Jim,
>> 
>> Uploads to SourceForge are running.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>>Matthias
>> 
>> Am 05.10.21 um 13:14 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
>>> The vote on releasing AOO 4.1.11-RC1 as GA is CLOSED.
>>> 
>>> The vote has PASSED.
>>> 
 On Oct 4, 2021, at 12:01 PM, Matthias Seidel  
 wrote:
 
 Hi Jim,
 
 Am 04.10.21 um 13:09 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
> Agreed!
 Marcus already casted his vote.
 
 Maybe it is time to close the vote and move on?
 
 Regards,
 
   Matthias
 
>> On Oct 1, 2021, at 2:45 PM, Marcus  wrote:
>> 
>> Jim, is it possible to extent the vote for 12 hours (which will be 
>> Midnight European time)?
>> 
>> Then I've a much better chance with testing *and* to take part of this 
>> vote.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> Marcus
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Am 30.09.21 um 12:37 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
>>> I am calling a VOTE on releasing the source and complimentary community 
>>> builds of
>>> Apache OpenOffice 4.1.11-RC1 as GA.
>>> [...]
>>> This vote will be open for the normal 72hrs.
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Re: [CLOSED] [DISCUSS][VOTE] Release AOO 4.1.11-RC1 as GA

2021-10-06 Thread Dave Fisher



> On Oct 6, 2021, at 9:22 AM, Matthias Seidel  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Dave,
> 
> Am 06.10.21 um 18:19 schrieb Dave Fisher:
>> 
>>> On Oct 6, 2021, at 8:16 AM, Matthias Seidel  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Uploads are complete and files are on at least 20 mirrors.
>>> 
>>> SourceForge is ready to go!
>> I don’t see the files here: 
>> https://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/
> 
> The directory is staged (invisible) until we do the release.

Great. Just checking.

BTW - What time will the “release” happen? Today or tomorrow morning? I need to 
ask security to publish the two CVEs and plan to be out this afternoon and 
evening.

Regards,
Dave

> 
> Matthias
> 
>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>>   Matthias
>>> 
>>> Am 05.10.21 um 20:58 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>>>> Hi Jim,
>>>> 
>>>> Uploads to SourceForge are running.
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> 
>>>>   Matthias
>>>> 
>>>> Am 05.10.21 um 13:14 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
>>>>> The vote on releasing AOO 4.1.11-RC1 as GA is CLOSED.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The vote has PASSED.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Oct 4, 2021, at 12:01 PM, Matthias Seidel 
>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Jim,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Am 04.10.21 um 13:09 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
>>>>>>> Agreed!
>>>>>> Marcus already casted his vote.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Maybe it is time to close the vote and move on?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  Matthias
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Oct 1, 2021, at 2:45 PM, Marcus  wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Jim, is it possible to extent the vote for 12 hours (which will be 
>>>>>>>> Midnight European time)?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Then I've a much better chance with testing *and* to take part of this 
>>>>>>>> vote.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Marcus
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Am 30.09.21 um 12:37 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
>>>>>>>>> I am calling a VOTE on releasing the source and complimentary 
>>>>>>>>> community builds of
>>>>>>>>> Apache OpenOffice 4.1.11-RC1 as GA.
>>>>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>>>>> This vote will be open for the normal 72hrs.
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Re: [CLOSED] [DISCUSS][VOTE] Release AOO 4.1.11-RC1 as GA

2021-10-06 Thread Dave Fisher



> On Oct 6, 2021, at 10:37 AM, Carl Marcum  wrote:
> 
> Hi Marcus,
> 
> On 10/6/21 1:15 PM, Marcus wrote:
>> Am 06.10.21 um 19:06 schrieb Carl Marcum:
>>> On 10/6/21 12:37 PM, Marcus wrote:
>>>> Am 06.10.21 um 18:31 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>>>>> Am 06.10.21 um 18:26 schrieb Dave Fisher:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Oct 6, 2021, at 9:22 AM, Matthias Seidel 
>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Am 06.10.21 um 18:19 schrieb Dave Fisher:
>>>>>>>>> On Oct 6, 2021, at 8:16 AM, Matthias Seidel 
>>>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Uploads are complete and files are on at least 20 mirrors.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> SourceForge is ready to go!
>>>>>>>> I don’t see the files here: 
>>>>>>>> https://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/
>>>>>>> The directory is staged (invisible) until we do the release.
>>>>>> Great. Just checking.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> BTW - What time will the “release” happen? Today or tomorrow morning? I 
>>>>>> need to ask security to publish the two CVEs and plan to be out this 
>>>>>> afternoon and evening.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I would prefer later today (European time). Marcus, what do you think?
>>>> 
>>>> I don't care. My preparations are nearly finished. I can commit the 
>>>> changes whenever we want. :-)
>>>> 
>>>> However, more important is that the blog announcement and release notes 
>>>> are also ready. I can take care for the release notes.
>>> 
>>> I filled in some improvement bullet points but feel free to add/change as 
>>> needed.
>> 
>> I've finished (so far) the release notes. You can copy & paste the bugfixes 
>> and enhancements from there:
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1.11+Release+Notes
>>  
> 
> We have these two that are already public and could be listed.
> CVE-2021-33035 Buffer overflow from a crafted DBF file

I’ve just asked Apache Security to republish this one with the information that 
4.1.11 fixes the issue.

> CVE-2021-40439 Billion Laughs

Should also be published to Mitre soon.

> 
> CVE 2021-30245 - Code execution in Apache OpenOffice via non-http(s) schemes 
> in Hyperlinks
> We fixed in 4.1.10 although a little to aggressively and improved the 
> handling in this one.
> Should we list it again?

It can’t hurt.

Also, I noticed we never published this one for the DEB flaw in 4.1.8. I’ve 
asked for this to be published too.

CVE-2021-28129 DEB packaging for Apache OpenOffice 4.1.8 installed with a 
non-root userid and groupid

Regards,
Dave

> 
> Thanks,
> Carl
> 
> 
>> 
>>> I saw the date for Patricia joining the project was missing. I searched the 
>>> archives and came up with a this post as about the oldest I could find so I 
>>> used that year.
>>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/9f5c7bbe9c2e46b800ad1dda5a1068a64ff26ab830ff9a9134c3b398%401446081722%40%3Cdev.openoffice.apache.org%3E
>>>  
>> 
>> 
>> Ah, great.
>> 
>>>> And of cause the security texts and webpages. I can also take over this 
>>>> but need the texts.
>>>> 
>>>> Dave, can you please help with the texts?
>>>> Carl, can you please finalize the blog post?
>>> 
>>> If were good with the text I'm ready to publish.
>>> Just say the word.
>>> 
>>> Also on the announce email draft I'm ready if nobody wants a change..
>>> 
>>> What time are we thinking?
>> 
>> Let's say at 20:00 CET which is in ~ 45 minutes.
>> Is this OK for all?
>> 
>> Marcus
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>>>>>>>> Am 05.10.21 um 20:58 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Jim,
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Uploads to SourceForge are running.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>Matthias
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Am 05.10.21 um 13:14 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
>>>>>>>>>>> The vote on releasing AOO 4.1.11-RC1 as GA is CLOSED.
>>>>>>&g

Re: OpenOffice-org Staging Site Published

2021-10-06 Thread Dave Fisher
This build has strange issues and inserted an extra layer of content.

Do not publish.

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> 
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> https://ci-builds.apache.org/job/OpenOffice/job/OpenOffice-org-Staging-Site-Build/494/
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Re: OpenOffice-org Staging Site Published

2021-10-06 Thread Dave Fisher
It was a content folder inside the content folder - it was not published. I 
reverted the commit to asf-staging.

> On Oct 6, 2021, at 11:28 AM, Marcus  wrote:
> 
> Am 06.10.21 um 20:23 schrieb Dave Fisher:
>> This build has strange issues and inserted an extra layer of content.
>> Do not publish.
> 
> it is already published. But I cannot see any extra content.
> Can you point me to what you see?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Marcus
> 
> 
> 
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>>> OpenOffice » OpenOffice-org-Staging-Site-Build - Build # 494 - Successful:
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Re: OpenOffice-org Staging Site Published

2021-10-06 Thread Dave Fisher
And I beat the next staging build so that came out correct. You should be good 
to publish.

> On Oct 6, 2021, at 11:31 AM, Dave Fisher  wrote:
> 
> It was a content folder inside the content folder - it was not published. I 
> reverted the commit to asf-staging.
> 
>> On Oct 6, 2021, at 11:28 AM, Marcus  wrote:
>> 
>> Am 06.10.21 um 20:23 schrieb Dave Fisher:
>>> This build has strange issues and inserted an extra layer of content.
>>> Do not publish.
>> 
>> it is already published. But I cannot see any extra content.
>> Can you point me to what you see?
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> Marcus
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>>> On Oct 6, 2021, at 11:17 AM, Apache Jenkins Server 
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>>>> 
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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache OpenOffice 4.1.11 released

2021-10-08 Thread Dave Fisher


> On Oct 8, 2021, at 8:18 AM, Matthias Seidel  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> And thanks to everyone who was involved in this release!
> 
> Time to move on...
> 
> Can anyone create a tag/branch for AOO41X?

There is now a branch AOO4111
There is also a tag AOO4111-GA

> Note that Jim already merged new code, so it is not HEAD of.

The branch and tag were made from bdb20b2a64

Regards,
Dave


> 
> We should also update the documentation here, some parts are still for SVN:
> 
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/How+to+Cook+a+Release#HowtoCookaRelease-Tasksafterthereleaseispublic
> 
> Regards,
> 
>Matthias
> 
> Am 06.10.21 um 22:20 schrieb Carl Marcum:
>> Hello OpenOffice community,
>> 
>> We want to thank everyone who helped make this release happen.
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> Carl
>> (on behalf of the Apache OpenOffice PMC)
>> 
>> 
>>  Forwarded Message 
>> Subject: [ANNOUNCE] Apache OpenOffice 4.1.11 released
>> Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2021 14:19:06 -0400
>> From: Carl Marcum 
>> Organization: Apache Software Foundation
>> To: annou...@openoffice.apache.org
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 06 October 2021 - The Apache OpenOffice project is pleased to announce
>> the release of Apache OpenOffice 4.1.11.
>> 
>> This release is dedicated to Patricia Shanahan who was a valued
>> contributor to the project.
>> https://s.apache.org/patricia.shanahan
>> 
>> Apache OpenOffice is a popular Open Source office document productivity
>> suite available in 41 languages on Windows, macOS and Linux.
>> 
>> Apache OpenOffice 4.1.11 is a security release aimed at correcting the
>> following issues:
>> 
>> CVE-2021-33035 Buffer overflow from a crafted DBF file
>> CVE-2021-40439 Billion Laughs
>> CVE-2021-28129 DEB packaging for Apache OpenOffice 4.1.8 installed
>> with a non-root userid and groupid
>> 
>> This release also includes the latest dictionaries.
>> All users of Apache OpenOffice 4.1.10 or earlier are advised to upgrade.
>> 
>> For the complete overview see the list in Bugzilla:
>> https://s.apache.org/AOO-4111changes
>> 
>> Full version of this announcement:
>> https://s.apache.org/AOO-4111announcement
>> 
>> Apache OpenOffice 4.1.11 Release Notes:
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>> 
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>> 
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Re: Release announce to Apache moderated due to source link

2021-10-08 Thread Dave Fisher
That will probably be kicked back too

> On Oct 8, 2021, at 9:57 AM, Carl Marcum  wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> My Apache announce email got kicked back due to the link to the source not 
> using the mirror system.
> 
> "Source releases MUST use the ASF mirror system."
> 
> I used:
> https://openoffice.apache.org/downloads.html
> 
> So I guess I need to use:
> https://downloads.apache.org/openoffice/4.1.11/source/

Our download page is wrong. See 
https://infra.apache.org/release-download-pages.html#download-page

Regards,
Dave


> 
> I'll send a new one in a while.
> 
> Best regards,
> Carl
> 
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Re: Release announce to Apache moderated due to source link

2021-10-08 Thread Dave Fisher


> On Oct 8, 2021, at 10:11 AM, Carl Marcum  wrote:
> 
> Hi Dave,
> 
> On 10/8/21 1:04 PM, Dave Fisher wrote:
>> That will probably be kicked back too
>> 
>>> On Oct 8, 2021, at 9:57 AM, Carl Marcum  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi All,
>>> 
>>> My Apache announce email got kicked back due to the link to the source not 
>>> using the mirror system.
>>> 
>>> "Source releases MUST use the ASF mirror system."
>>> 
>>> I used:
>>> https://openoffice.apache.org/downloads.html
>>> 
>>> So I guess I need to use:
>>> https://downloads.apache.org/openoffice/4.1.11/source/
>> Our download page is wrong. See 
>> https://infra.apache.org/release-download-pages.html#download-page
> 
> So this then?
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/openoffice/4.1.11/source/

https://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.lua/openoffice/4.1.11/source/

> 
> Thanks,
> Carl
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Dave
>> 
>> 
>>> I'll send a new one in a while.
>>> 
>>> Best regards,
>>> Carl
>>> 
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Re: Release announce to Apache moderated due to source link

2021-10-08 Thread Dave Fisher



> On Oct 8, 2021, at 10:14 AM, Matthias Seidel  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Dave,
> 
> I asked Infra to distribute our source packages via ASF mirrors, but
> that ticket was closed today:
> 
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-21497?focusedCommentId=17338060&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels%3Acomment-tabpanel#comment-17338060

It’s good because it is on the cdn.

https://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.lua/openoffice/4.1.11/source/

Gave me https://dlcdn.apache.org/openoffice/4.1.11/source/ which is the cdn. 
“Mirror"

We are good.

Regards,
Dave

> 
> Regards,
> 
>    Matthias
> 
> Am 08.10.21 um 19:04 schrieb Dave Fisher:
>> That will probably be kicked back too
>> 
>>> On Oct 8, 2021, at 9:57 AM, Carl Marcum  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi All,
>>> 
>>> My Apache announce email got kicked back due to the link to the source not 
>>> using the mirror system.
>>> 
>>> "Source releases MUST use the ASF mirror system."
>>> 
>>> I used:
>>> https://openoffice.apache.org/downloads.html
>>> 
>>> So I guess I need to use:
>>> https://downloads.apache.org/openoffice/4.1.11/source/
>> Our download page is wrong. See 
>> https://infra.apache.org/release-download-pages.html#download-page
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Dave
>> 
>> 
>>> I'll send a new one in a while.
>>> 
>>> Best regards,
>>> Carl
>>> 
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Re: Release announce to Apache moderated due to source link

2021-10-08 Thread Dave Fisher



> On Oct 8, 2021, at 10:26 AM, Matthias Seidel  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Am 08.10.21 um 19:21 schrieb Marcus:
>> Am 08.10.21 um 19:18 schrieb Dave Fisher:
>>>> On Oct 8, 2021, at 10:14 AM, Matthias Seidel
>>>>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I asked Infra to distribute our source packages via ASF mirrors, but
>>>> that ticket was closed today:
>>>> 
>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-21497?focusedCommentId=17338060&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels%3Acomment-tabpanel#comment-17338060
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> It’s good because it is on the cdn.
>>> 
>>> https://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.lua/openoffice/4.1.11/source/
>>> 
>>> Gave me https://dlcdn.apache.org/openoffice/4.1.11/source/ which is
>>> the cdn. “Mirror"
>>> 
>>> We are good.
>> 
>> nice when it is working now. Last time it was not.
>> 
>> @Carl:
>> When you use the "closer.lua" link in the mail then it should work.
> 
> Should we use that link also here?
> 
> https://openoffice.apache.org/downloads.html

Yes. I’ve just committed the update. Give it a couple of minutes and test.

> 
> Matthias
> 
>> 
>> Marcus
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>>> Am 08.10.21 um 19:04 schrieb Dave Fisher:
>>>>> That will probably be kicked back too
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Oct 8, 2021, at 9:57 AM, Carl Marcum  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> My Apache announce email got kicked back due to the link to the
>>>>>> source not using the mirror system.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> "Source releases MUST use the ASF mirror system."
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I used:
>>>>>> https://openoffice.apache.org/downloads.html
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> So I guess I need to use:
>>>>>> https://downloads.apache.org/openoffice/4.1.11/source/
>>>>> Our download page is wrong. See
>>>>> https://infra.apache.org/release-download-pages.html#download-page
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'll send a new one in a while.
>> 
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Re: Release announce to Apache moderated due to source link

2021-10-08 Thread Dave Fisher
Europe vs. US. Can you DM me your IP address?

> On Oct 8, 2021, at 10:33 AM, Matthias Seidel  
> wrote:
> 
> Sorry,
> 
> https://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.lua/openoffice/4.1.11/source/
> 
> does not work for me...
> 
> https://dlcdn.apache.org/openoffice/4.1.11/source/
> 
> does.
> 
> Matthias
> 
> 
> Am 08.10.21 um 19:27 schrieb Dave Fisher:
>> 
>>> On Oct 8, 2021, at 10:26 AM, Matthias Seidel  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Am 08.10.21 um 19:21 schrieb Marcus:
>>>> Am 08.10.21 um 19:18 schrieb Dave Fisher:
>>>>>> On Oct 8, 2021, at 10:14 AM, Matthias Seidel
>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I asked Infra to distribute our source packages via ASF mirrors, but
>>>>>> that ticket was closed today:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-21497?focusedCommentId=17338060&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels%3Acomment-tabpanel#comment-17338060
>>>>>> 
>>>>> It’s good because it is on the cdn.
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.lua/openoffice/4.1.11/source/
>>>>> 
>>>>> Gave me https://dlcdn.apache.org/openoffice/4.1.11/source/ which is
>>>>> the cdn. “Mirror"
>>>>> 
>>>>> We are good.
>>>> nice when it is working now. Last time it was not.
>>>> 
>>>> @Carl:
>>>> When you use the "closer.lua" link in the mail then it should work.
>>> Should we use that link also here?
>>> 
>>> https://openoffice.apache.org/downloads.html
>> Yes. I’ve just committed the update. Give it a couple of minutes and test.
>> 
>>> Matthias
>>> 
>>>> Marcus
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>>> Am 08.10.21 um 19:04 schrieb Dave Fisher:
>>>>>>> That will probably be kicked back too
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Oct 8, 2021, at 9:57 AM, Carl Marcum  wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> My Apache announce email got kicked back due to the link to the
>>>>>>>> source not using the mirror system.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> "Source releases MUST use the ASF mirror system."
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I used:
>>>>>>>> https://openoffice.apache.org/downloads.html
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> So I guess I need to use:
>>>>>>>> https://downloads.apache.org/openoffice/4.1.11/source/
>>>>>>> Our download page is wrong. See
>>>>>>> https://infra.apache.org/release-download-pages.html#download-page
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I'll send a new one in a while.
>>>> 
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Re: Release announce to Apache moderated due to source link

2021-10-08 Thread Dave Fisher
Matthias and I discussed directly.

In some parts of the world closer.lua will select dlcdn.a.o as the “mirror” and 
in others it will select downloads.a.o.

This is expected and how Infra has set up closer.lua to minimize costs.

BTW - We have not updated Alternative download link #2 
<https://downloads.apache.org/openoffice/4.1.10/binaries/> on 
openoffice.org/download/ we could switch that to use closer.lua.

Regards,
Dave


> On Oct 8, 2021, at 10:34 AM, Dave Fisher  wrote:
> 
> Europe vs. US. Can you DM me your IP address?
> 
>> On Oct 8, 2021, at 10:33 AM, Matthias Seidel  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Sorry,
>> 
>> https://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.lua/openoffice/4.1.11/source/
>> 
>> does not work for me...
>> 
>> https://dlcdn.apache.org/openoffice/4.1.11/source/
>> 
>> does.
>> 
>> Matthias
>> 
>> 
>> Am 08.10.21 um 19:27 schrieb Dave Fisher:
>>> 
>>>> On Oct 8, 2021, at 10:26 AM, Matthias Seidel  
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> Am 08.10.21 um 19:21 schrieb Marcus:
>>>>> Am 08.10.21 um 19:18 schrieb Dave Fisher:
>>>>>>> On Oct 8, 2021, at 10:14 AM, Matthias Seidel
>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I asked Infra to distribute our source packages via ASF mirrors, but
>>>>>>> that ticket was closed today:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-21497?focusedCommentId=17338060&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels%3Acomment-tabpanel#comment-17338060
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> It’s good because it is on the cdn.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> https://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.lua/openoffice/4.1.11/source/
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Gave me https://dlcdn.apache.org/openoffice/4.1.11/source/ which is
>>>>>> the cdn. “Mirror"
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> We are good.
>>>>> nice when it is working now. Last time it was not.
>>>>> 
>>>>> @Carl:
>>>>> When you use the "closer.lua" link in the mail then it should work.
>>>> Should we use that link also here?
>>>> 
>>>> https://openoffice.apache.org/downloads.html
>>> Yes. I’ve just committed the update. Give it a couple of minutes and test.
>>> 
>>>> Matthias
>>>> 
>>>>> Marcus
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Am 08.10.21 um 19:04 schrieb Dave Fisher:
>>>>>>>> That will probably be kicked back too
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Oct 8, 2021, at 9:57 AM, Carl Marcum  wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> My Apache announce email got kicked back due to the link to the
>>>>>>>>> source not using the mirror system.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> "Source releases MUST use the ASF mirror system."
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I used:
>>>>>>>>> https://openoffice.apache.org/downloads.html
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> So I guess I need to use:
>>>>>>>>> https://downloads.apache.org/openoffice/4.1.11/source/
>>>>>>>> Our download page is wrong. See
>>>>>>>> https://infra.apache.org/release-download-pages.html#download-page
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I'll send a new one in a while.
>>>>> 
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Re: Release announce to Apache moderated due to source link

2021-10-08 Thread Dave Fisher



> On Oct 8, 2021, at 12:34 PM, Carl Marcum  wrote:
> 
> On 10/8/21 2:16 PM, Carl Marcum wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> On 10/8/21 1:21 PM, Marcus wrote:
>>> Am 08.10.21 um 19:18 schrieb Dave Fisher:
>>>>> On Oct 8, 2021, at 10:14 AM, Matthias Seidel  
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I asked Infra to distribute our source packages via ASF mirrors, but
>>>>> that ticket was closed today:
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-21497?focusedCommentId=17338060&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels%3Acomment-tabpanel#comment-17338060
>>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> It’s good because it is on the cdn.
>>>> 
>>>> https://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.lua/openoffice/4.1.11/source/
>>>> 
>>>> Gave me https://dlcdn.apache.org/openoffice/4.1.11/source/ which is the 
>>>> cdn. “Mirror"
>>>> 
>>>> We are good.
>>> 
>>> nice when it is working now. Last time it was not.
>>> 
>>> @Carl:
>>> When you use the "closer.lua" link in the mail then it should work.
>> 
>> Used:
>> https://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.lua/openoffice/4.1.11/source/
>> 
>> Let's hope that's the one :)
> 
> another fail :(
> 
> See the reply:
> 
> ---
> Sorry, but the source link is not a valid download page.
> 
> The page athttps://openoffice.apache.org/downloads.html  is more like it,
> but the artifact links on the page must use the mirror system.
> For example:
> 
> https://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.lua/openoffice/4.1.11/source/apache-openoffice-4.1.11-bdb20b2a64-src.tar.bz2

And they actually do. So, they (probably sebb) need to refresh.

> 
> This needs to be done for all the current artifacts on the page.
> [The archived ones are fine as they are.]
> ---
> 
> Best regards,
> Carl
> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> Marcus
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>>> Am 08.10.21 um 19:04 schrieb Dave Fisher:
>>>>>> That will probably be kicked back too
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Oct 8, 2021, at 9:57 AM, Carl Marcum  wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> My Apache announce email got kicked back due to the link to the source 
>>>>>>> not using the mirror system.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> "Source releases MUST use the ASF mirror system."
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I used:
>>>>>>> https://openoffice.apache.org/downloads.html
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> So I guess I need to use:
>>>>>>> https://downloads.apache.org/openoffice/4.1.11/source/
>>>>>> Our download page is wrong. See 
>>>>>> https://infra.apache.org/release-download-pages.html#download-page
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I'll send a new one in a while.
>>> 
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Re: Who moderates users...@openoffice.apache.org?

2021-11-06 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi Michael,

To be clear this not a moderator allowing SPAM situation. This looks like a 
subscriber setting an auto-reply.

There is a helper for moderators that should help. There are a number of 
options.

https://whimsy.apache.org/committers/moderationhelper

Let me know if this works for you. If you have forgotten your apache password 
then reset at https://id.apache.org

Regards,
Dave

> On Nov 6, 2021, at 11:28 AM, Dr. Michael Stehmann 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hello Jörg,
> 
> you are so right.
> 
> As I remember, you were also a (co-)moderator in the past. But you resigned.
> 
> Do you want to do this job another time?
> 
> Kind regards
> Michael
> 
> 
> Am 06.11.21 um 15:35 schrieb Jörg Schmidt:
>> Hello Marcus,
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Marcus [mailto:marcus.m...@wtnet.de]
>>> Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2021 1:25 PM
>>> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
>>> Subject: Re: Who moderates users...@openoffice.apache.org?
>>> 
>>> Am 06.11.21 um 12:36 schrieb Dr. Michael Stehmann:
 I'm one of the moderators of users-de. IMO I'm not the only one.
 
 I have gotten some of the spam postings in the past and
>>> rejected them.
 
 But it seems so, I got not all.
 
 There should be a ban for some email addresses, but I'm busy at the
 moment. Because it's not trivial it would take some time.
>>> There was no
 need for a ban in past. So it would be the first time for
>>> me to do such
 a job.
>>> 
>>> I've tried to unsubscribe the mail address. But maybe it was not
>>> successful as I'm not a moderator for that list.
>>> 
>>> BTW:
>>> It's the default contact address from a German bank. IMHO it
>>> is obvious
>>> that this is not really used for sending / getting mails
>>> about OpenOffice.
>> Thank you for recognising the situation. I wrote all this to Michael by PM 
>> and got only general words in reply and no solution.
>> Yes, I understand if Michael doesn't have time, but the problems of the lack 
>> of moderation of "users...@openoffice.apache.org" have existed for years, 
>> and for years I have been pointing it out again and again, because I don't 
>> understand why something that concerns us all is not also something where 
>> everyone's opinion should count.
>> What is the issue?
>> I think it's normal to run a mailing list the way mailing lists are normally 
>> run, which is that participants have to register. Where this is not 
>> respected, the mailing list is ineffective for all concerned (both 
>> questioners and helpers).
>> I'm not saying that there shouldn't be exceptions sometimes, but that should 
>> be limited to individual cases and not become the norm.
>> Jörg
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Re: Who moderates users...@openoffice.apache.org?

2021-11-06 Thread Dave Fisher



> On Nov 6, 2021, at 3:45 AM, Dave  wrote:
> 
> On 06/11/2021 10:30, Marcus wrote:
>> Am 06.11.21 um 10:16 schrieb Jörg Schmidt:
>>> following Dave's advice {1], I contacted one moderator of the list
>>> users...@openoffice.apache.org I know and was promised that spam
>>> emails would be rejected in future - unfortunately, however, no action
>>> was taken, because there is spam again from the sender on the list
>>> that I had specifically pointed out.
>>> 
>>> Can someone please tell me who moderates this list? I would then try
>>> to write to another moderator and ask for help.
>>> 
>>> [1]
>>> see the thread "How to delete a wrong email list subscription?"
>> 
>> I can see that Michael and Dave could be moderators of the list. But
>> maybe it's a bit outdated.
>> 
>> Marcus
> 
> I have been a moderator for some of our English lists since the
> project's poddling days. Unfortunately, my knowledge of German is not
> very good, so I would not be of much help for the German users list.
> 
> I have asked before why the PMC does not wish moderators to be
> identified, but never received any rational answer.

Providing a clear identification of moderators would be a privacy challenge.

The mechanism to contact moderators is to send an email to 
users-de-own...@openoffice.apache.org 

Regards,
Dave

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Re: Who moderates users...@openoffice.apache.org?

2021-11-07 Thread Dave Fisher



> On Nov 6, 2021, at 2:34 PM, Dave  wrote:
> 
> On 06/11/2021 19:26, Dave Fisher wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 6, 2021, at 3:45 AM, Dave  wrote:
>>> 
>>> On 06/11/2021 10:30, Marcus wrote:
>>>> Am 06.11.21 um 10:16 schrieb Jörg Schmidt:
>>>>> following Dave's advice {1], I contacted one moderator of the list
>>>>> users...@openoffice.apache.org I know and was promised that spam
>>>>> emails would be rejected in future - unfortunately, however, no action
>>>>> was taken, because there is spam again from the sender on the list
>>>>> that I had specifically pointed out.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Can someone please tell me who moderates this list? I would then try
>>>>> to write to another moderator and ask for help.
>>>>> 
>>>>> [1]
>>>>> see the thread "How to delete a wrong email list subscription?"
>>>> 
>>>> I can see that Michael and Dave could be moderators of the list. But
>>>> maybe it's a bit outdated.
>>>> 
>>>> Marcus
>>> 
>>> I have been a moderator for some of our English lists since the
>>> project's poddling days. Unfortunately, my knowledge of German is not
>>> very good, so I would not be of much help for the German users list.
>>> 
>>> I have asked before why the PMC does not wish moderators to be
>>> identified, but never received any rational answer.
>> 
>> Providing a clear identification of moderators would be a privacy challenge.
>> 
>> The mechanism to contact moderators is to send an email to 
>> users-de-own...@openoffice.apache.org 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Dave
>> 
>>> 
>>> Dave
> 
> Sorry to put it this way Dave, but this is the same answer that I have
> had received from you and other PMC members previously.
> 
> If your statement is true, then we and the ASF have a very serious and
> extreme privacy challenge here:
> https://people.apache.org/committers-by-project.html#openoffice
> 
> In my view anyone who "steps up to he plate" for ANY role in an OPEN
> source project should not have any concerns about being identified a
> contributor and their role that project. I am not ashamed of being
> identified as a (very small, relatively unimportant) contributor to the
> AOO project and I suggest that ANYONE who is wishes to adopt this
> underhanded, secretive approach, should step away from the project.

I agree about every role except moderation. I moderate 27 different Apache 
Mailing Lists only one of which is an AOO list.

If the community wishes to disclose all of the moderators that would be an 
acceptable outcome.

> 
> Yes, my commentary will be misinterpreted by some as inflammatory, but
> like Jörg I am both a supporter and critic of the AOO project.

Fair enough.


> 
> As a separate issue, the above mentioned link is seriously in need of
> review and update, because many of the people mentioned are no longer
> active in, or have resigned from the positions listed. Also one person
> listed regrettably passed away last month.

This is the flip side of tracking people in various positions. Thanks for 
letting us know.

There are many places that list people no longer involved in the project. PRs 
and edits are possible and any committer or contributor (depending on the 
resource) is welcome to submit or make corrections.

Regards,
Dave

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What is a PMC Member

2021-11-07 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi -

Being a PMC Member is not a special status, there are basically four 
responsibilities.

(1) Making binding release votes. Those who test and vote on releases will be 
noticed.

(2) Handling security issues which is necessarily private. The PMC may add 
Committers to the Security Team. Many of our recent 4.1.x releases have been 
driven by security concerns.

(3) Handling trademark issues which is also a private concern.

(4) Recognizing contributors and adding committers and PMC members to the 
project. For AOO there is a challenge in recognizing contributions that happen 
somewhere where the contribution is not visible on dev@openoffice.apache.org or 
comm...@openoffice.apache.org. If a community member thinks the PMC needs to 
recognize someone’s contribution then please email priv...@openoffice.apache.org

The PMC Chair has the additional responsibility of quarterly reports to The ASF 
Board of Directors. The PMC helps the chair.

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Re: Who moderates users...@openoffice.apache.org?

2021-11-09 Thread Dave Fisher



Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 9, 2021, at 3:48 PM, Marcus  wrote:
> 
> Am 07.11.21 um 21:18 schrieb Dave:
>> On 07/11/2021 19:42, Dave Fisher wrote:
>>>> Sorry to put it this way Dave, but this is the same answer that I have
>>>> had received from you and other PMC members previously.
>>>> 
>>>> If your statement is true, then we and the ASF have a very serious and
>>>> extreme privacy challenge here:
>>>> https://people.apache.org/committers-by-project.html#openoffice
>>>> 
>>>> In my view anyone who "steps up to he plate" for ANY role in an OPEN
>>>> source project should not have any concerns about being identified a
>>>> contributor and their role that project. I am not ashamed of being
>>>> identified as a (very small, relatively unimportant) contributor to the
>>>> AOO project and I suggest that ANYONE who is wishes to adopt this
>>>> underhanded, secretive approach, should step away from the project.
>>> I agree about every role except moderation. I moderate 27 different Apache 
>>> Mailing Lists only one of which is an AOO list.
>>> 
>>> If the community wishes to disclose all of the moderators that would be an 
>>> acceptable outcome.
>> I read your words, which are the same as you and other PMC members have
>> previously stated, but I still do not read any explanation as to the
>> rational of why moderators should hold any more of an exclusive or
>> covert role within the ASF.
>> Let's just put this down to my natural stupidity and end this thread,
>> because there is nothing to be gained by perusing the subject.
> 
> normally I would agree. However, I'm curious to know what you mean with "... 
> why moderators should hold any more of an exclusive or covert role within the 
> ASF ..." and why you think there is something secret?
> 
> A moderator is just a committer as you and me. Some are also a PMC member or 
> maybe also supporter/committer/member of other ASF projects. But thats it.
> 
> I volunteer to create a Wiki page to show who is moderating which mailing 
> list(s) - if the community think it has a value.

That’s ok as long as it is made clear NOT to ever contact moderators directly 
about the mailing list.

I hope you see the conundrum being presented.

Regards,
Dave
> 
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Re: Combine VMs

2021-11-28 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi Gavin,

Thanks for bringing this up.

This is an interesting proposal which I would like to discuss as a fresh 
request. I’ll include some notes about ASF Infra works so that the community 
can understand the constraints.

I have some questions and concerns about this proposal.

(1) As part of this update Infra requested that we change from using Infra’s 
MySQL server to moving this onto the VMs. Under this plan is this still the 
case? If so, does your load analysis take this into account?

(2) Each of the three sites uses different configurations to display content 
from within the HTTPD server.
- phpBB - https://www.phpbb.com/support/docs/ug/
- mediaWiki - https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/PHP_configuration
- pootle - 
http://docs.translatehouse.org/projects/pootle/en/stable-2.8.x/server/installation.html

(a) For phpBB and mediaWiki we need to assure that the php and mysql 
configurations are compatible.
(b) For pootle we’ll need to assure that it’s python based approach and 
database choices are also compatible,

(3) translate.apache.org - the pootle service gets its httpd service locked up 
frequently and then it is currently crontab’s to restart. I’m not sure that is 
a “solution" that is compatible with shared services. We’ll also need to 
understand more clearly from the L10N team their special requirements.

(4) I am pretty close to ready to do the forum migration. The one last bit was 
understanding how to get full administrative control over the forums. I found 
the way a couple of weeks ago.

(5) In addition to migrations each of the software packages needs to be 
upgraded.

(6) If we go down this path I would recommend that we combine Forum and Wiki 
first and once that is done we consider pootle.

(7) Since Infra uses puppet to configure VMs is there an easy way to use puppet 
to configure an equivalent docker image? (Thanks Peter). Doing this would allow 
more community members to participate in maintaining these critical resources.

For me. I can work with Infra on moving forum and media wiki to the same VM. I 
have a new job which will limit my volunteer time for this to Sunday and 
perhaps one evening. Having more community sysadmins would be great.

All The Best,
Dave

> On Nov 28, 2021, at 2:53 AM, Gavin McDonald  wrote:
> 
> Hello AOO folks
> 
> Infra has taken a look at the usage of your 3 VMS and believe that
> they could all be combined into a single VM.
> 
> Technically, we can see no reason why this could not be done, and
> it may even simplify things, the sysadmin folks all needing only one
> VM to access for all services.
> 
> So, we would like to combine Forums, Wiki and Translate onto the
> same machine that has enough capacity for all.
> 
> Please discuss, and let us know your thoughts, so that we may then
> alter the migration plan of the current VMs onto one.
> 
> TY
> 
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Re: Translate certificate expired

2021-12-02 Thread Dave Fisher
Please ask infra for either instructions or help.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 2, 2021, at 11:50 AM, Matthias Seidel  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Marcus,
> 
>> Am 02.12.21 um 20:34 schrieb Marcus:
>>> Am 02.12.21 um 13:34 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>>> Our certificate on:
>>> 
>>> https://translate.apache.org/projects/
>>> 
>>> expired on 28. November 2021.
>> 
>> can we do something to renew it?
>> I don't think so, maybe a task for the Infra team?
> 
> As I understand it, we are responsible for the server. But maybe we can
> ask Infra.
> 
> While theoretically I could get access I wouldn't know how to renew the
> Let's Encrypt certificate.
> 
> Matthias
> 
>> 
>> Marcus
>> 
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Re: Translate certificate expired

2021-12-06 Thread Dave Fisher



> On Dec 6, 2021, at 10:50 AM, Marcus  wrote:
> 
> Am 06.12.21 um 08:21 schrieb Arrigo Marchiori:
>> On Fri, Dec 03, 2021 at 09:00:27PM +0100, Arrigo Marchiori wrote:
>>> On Fri, Dec 03, 2021 at 05:33:51PM +0100, Matthias Seidel wrote:
>>> 
 I don't have the time to do it.
 
 Anyone else?
>>> 
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-22581
>> I was told I should contact sysad...@openoffice.apache.org.
>> It is in Cc to this message. Who reads that mailbox?
> 
> only project internal people. So IMHO it doesn't make sense. ;-)

It didn’t make sense to me so I let infra know on slack that they should treat 
the request as if it came from sysadmin@ itself.

Arrigo has resolved the issue and translate.a.o should be working.

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Log4Shell is not a problem for OpenOffice

2021-12-17 Thread Dave Fisher
The Apache OpenOffice security team has looked into the two Log4Shell 
vulnerabilities. We are not impacted by them as we don’t use Apache Log4J 2.

For the AOO Security Team,
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Re: OpenOffice wordmark exploration (yet without the "Apache" mention)

2022-02-14 Thread Dave Fisher
FYI you already are discussing logos with the Apache OpenOffice Project 
Management Committee. We’d like to see what you are offering to contribute.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 13, 2022, at 11:00 PM, Corentin Verbrèghe 
>  wrote:
> 
> I know the causes now, but I may still request Apache to modify the
> icon-logos (especially those of Writer and other products).
> Cordially.
> Manjiro (Corentin)
> 
> Le dim. 13 févr. 2022 à 23:05, Pedro Lino 
> a écrit :
> 
>> Hi Manjiro
>> 
>>> On 02/13/2022 8:36 PM Corentin Verbrèghe 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> I think by making a request to Apache to change the icons of Writer and
>>> other software, they may agree.
>> 
>> Only the Blue Orb icon (or Logo) is part of the trademark. Icons for
>> Writer or any other modules as well as icons for the toolbars are not
>> included in the trademark and can be changed.
>> 
>> This is not a restriction to our freedom but a way to guarantee that even
>> though anyone can use the freely available source code, they can not
>> commercialize or offer a product named OpenOffice or use the same Logo
>> In any case it is not Apache that restricts our freedom ;)
>> 
>> Thank you for volunteering to contribute! I hope these small legal quirks
>> do not demotivate you!
>> 
>> All the best,
>> Pedro
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Re: OpenOffice wordmark exploration (yet without the "Apache" mention)

2022-02-15 Thread Dave Fisher



> On Feb 15, 2022, at 8:43 AM, Rory O'Farrell  wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 17:10:12 +0100
> Corentin Verbrèghe  wrote:
> 
>> I really don't know what you expect from me.
>> 
>> Regards.
>> Coren tin
> 
> I think all would like to see some images for changed icons.

Exactly, Apache OpenOffice is all volunteers and people who have ideas should 
expect to help do the work.

All the best,
Dave


> 
> Rory
> 
> 
>> Le lun. 14 févr. 2022 à 16:24, Corentin Verbrèghe <
>> corentin.verbreg...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> What are you expecting from me ?
>>> Cordially.
>>> Manjiro (Corentin)
>>> 
>>> Le lun. 14 févr. 2022 à 16:09, Dave Fisher  a écrit :
>>> 
>>>> FYI you already are discussing logos with the Apache OpenOffice Project
>>>> Management Committee. We’d like to see what you are offering to contribute.
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On Feb 13, 2022, at 11:00 PM, Corentin Verbrèghe <
>>>> corentin.verbreg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I know the causes now, but I may still request Apache to modify the
>>>>> icon-logos (especially those of Writer and other products).
>>>>> Cordially.
>>>>> Manjiro (Corentin)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Le dim. 13 févr. 2022 à 23:05, Pedro Lino >>> .invalid>
>>>>> a écrit :
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Manjiro
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 02/13/2022 8:36 PM Corentin Verbrèghe <
>>>> corentin.verbreg...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I think by making a request to Apache to change the icons of Writer
>>>> and
>>>>>>> other software, they may agree.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Only the Blue Orb icon (or Logo) is part of the trademark. Icons for
>>>>>> Writer or any other modules as well as icons for the toolbars are not
>>>>>> included in the trademark and can be changed.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> This is not a restriction to our freedom but a way to guarantee that
>>>> even
>>>>>> though anyone can use the freely available source code, they can not
>>>>>> commercialize or offer a product named OpenOffice or use the same Logo
>>>>>> In any case it is not Apache that restricts our freedom ;)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thank you for volunteering to contribute! I hope these small legal
>>>> quirks
>>>>>> do not demotivate you!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> All the best,
>>>>>> Pedro
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Re: Is certificate from https:/translate.apache.org expired ?

2022-03-15 Thread Dave Fisher
It’s our machine. Please have infra teach us how.

We could use more committers willing to help sysadmin our VMs. Volunteers 
please apply to sysad...@openoffice.apache.org

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 15, 2022, at 10:21 AM, Marcus  wrote:
> 
> Am 15.03.22 um 17:01 schrieb Dick Groskamp:
>> Tried to log in on the Pootle server at https://translate.apache.org.
>> Firefox can't connect me, indicating that the certifcate for the server 
>> might be expired or my computerclock is off.
>> The latter is OK.
>> Could someone check ?
> 
> yes, Firefox tells me that the certificte is expired at Sun, 06 Mar 2022 
> 12:59:01 GMT.
> 
> It seems Infra has to renew it.
> 
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Re: Is certificate from https:/translate.apache.org expired ?

2022-03-15 Thread Dave Fisher
There is a cron job in place which failed due to February not having 30 days. 
It is now weekly.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 15, 2022, at 12:02 PM, Matthias Seidel  
> wrote:
> 
> Thanks Peter,
> 
> maybe this is something we could set up:
> 
> https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-secure-apache-with-let-s-encrypt-on-ubuntu-18-04
> 
> Regards,
> 
>Matthias
> 
>> Am 15.03.22 um 19:58 schrieb Peter Kovacs:
>> Certificate problem should be resolved.
>> 
>>> On 15.03.22 19:26, Peter Kovacs wrote:
>>> I have opened a ticket. See sysadmin mailinglist.
>>> 
>>> On 15.03.22 18:27, Dave Fisher wrote:
>>>> It’s our machine. Please have infra teach us how.
>>>> 
>>>> We could use more committers willing to help sysadmin our VMs.
>>>> Volunteers please apply to sysad...@openoffice.apache.org
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 15, 2022, at 10:21 AM, Marcus  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Am 15.03.22 um 17:01 schrieb Dick Groskamp:
>>>>>> Tried to log in on the Pootle server at https://translate.apache.org.
>>>>>> Firefox can't connect me, indicating that the certifcate for the
>>>>>> server might be expired or my computerclock is off.
>>>>>> The latter is OK.
>>>>>> Could someone check ?
>>>>> yes, Firefox tells me that the certificte is expired at Sun, 06 Mar
>>>>> 2022 12:59:01 GMT.
>>>>> 
>>>>> It seems Infra has to renew it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Marcus
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Re: Things you don't want to know about Ukraine??

2022-03-22 Thread Dave Fisher



> On Mar 22, 2022, at 2:51 PM, Jose R R  wrote:
> 
> On Mon, Mar 21, 2022 at 8:37 AM Max Merbald  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Matthias,
>> 
>> the blatant fake news José was spreading definitely required an answer.
>> Such junk could not remain unanswered, and never mind which list this is.
> 
> Unlike you, troll of the 'Ministry of Truth' (Orwell), I do not engage
> in disinformation. Your stunted intellect and short sighted stupidity
> --
> and that of the gullible masses like you -- is the facilitator for
> manufacturing fascist US/UK Anglo- European world wars -- while their
> propaganda whores blame those on others with a 24/7 demonization of
> the targeted individual(s) in a maliciously created narrative to exalt
> the 'virtues' and 'moral superiority of the West'.
> 
> Oh, Moderator, what kind of tone is that, 'STOP OR YOU WILL BE
> BANNED'!? I will save you the trouble of 'banning' me. I will
> unsubscribe.

I am currently reading an anthology of George Orwell called All Art is 
Propaganda. It’s very interesting. Mostly Orwell was concerned about orthodoxy 
on all extremes.

But that’s not the point raised here. This mailing list is for discussions 
about developing Apache OpenOffice. Our mission is about the public good in the 
most expansive way. Here we aren’t judging “isms”. That can be done elsewhere. 
Thank you very much.

>> 
>> You seemed only to worry about the list and not about someone spreading
>> fake news. Sorry to say but that seems narrow-minded to me.

“Fake news” is propaganda. Determining whose is often difficult. A suite of 
Apache Software was used for analyzing the Panama Papers. Don’t judge our 
interests by what we are willing to discuss.

All the best,
Dave

>> 
>> 
>> Am 21.03.2022 um 16:27 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>>> Hi Max,
>>> 
>>> Am 21.03.22 um 16:11 schrieb Max Merbald:
 @ Matthias: Going by your reaction, you don't seem to be very concerned
 about the war in Ukraine. Well, I am. It might well turn into WW3. You
 should be concerned, too!
>>> I am very concerned, but this is a developer mailing list for OpenOffice.
>>> 
>>> So PLEASE stop this discussion here!
>>> 
>>> There are enough places where you (and others) can express their thoughts.
>>> 
>>> 
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> 
> Best Professional Regards.
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Re: Forums OpenOffice are very slow

2022-04-17 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi -

I’ve restarted Apache HTTPD. Seems fine from California …

Regards,
Dave

> On Apr 17, 2022, at 8:34 AM, Rory O'Farrell  wrote:
> 
> On Sun, 17 Apr 2022 15:20:39 -
> Dick Groskamp  wrote:
> 
>> Sent an email to Infra since the forums are still not responding.
>> Apache Status page does not mention any incident for today or yesterday
>> 
> 
> Response has improved on Sunday (17 April 2022) though not yet perfect.  My 
> tests are showing
> connection problems onwards from London - traceroute timing out.
> 
> RoryOF
> 
> 
>> 
>> On 2022/04/17 05:44:55 casa...@email.it wrote:
>>> The forums have not opened for almost 24 hours.
>>> 
>>> - Messaggio originale -
>>> Da: "Bidouille" 
>>> A: "dev" 
>>> Inviato: Sabato, 16 aprile 2022 18:25:52
>>> Oggetto: Forums OpenOffice are very slow
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> Since this morning, forums are very slw.
>>> I don't know if this comes from PhpBB or MySQL.
>>> Maybe restart all services?
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Re: The AOO forums have not worked for several days.

2022-04-21 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi -

I’ve been working on the issue today without success. I’m taking some time away 
from work to focus on completion of this migration.

It looks like some type of DOS issue. We’ve been slowly building a new box for 
quite some time.

Please stay tuned for progress tomorrow. I will ask for volunteers to test on a 
new url. Once functionality is confirmed we will complete the data transfer.

Anyone who has time, phpBB/httpd/PHP coding experience, and linux sysadmin 
knowledge is very welcome to volunteer to help going forward. If you want to 
volunteer send an email to sysad...@openoffice.apache.org

Regards,
Dave

> On Apr 21, 2022, at 3:49 AM, Gavin McDonald  wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> On Thu, Apr 21, 2022 at 12:37 PM Matthias Seidel 
> wrote:
> 
>> It could help to change the status to "Waiting for Infra" for that ticket.
>> 
>> At the moment it is "Waiting for User" so Infra is waiting for input...
>> 
> 
> Infra does not maintain the AOO forums, or wiki, or translate , or ...
> 
> someone from the OpenOffice project needs to be looking into this and
> resolving,
> or, if they find an issue with the VM itself, then escalate to Infra.
> 
> Gav...
> 
> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>>   Matthias
>> 
>> Am 21.04.22 um 08:34 schrieb Bidouille:
>>> This morning (since France), no access to ooo-forum3-vm.apache.org
>> [54.84.201.130]
>>> An issue report has been opened here:
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-23156
>>> No news so I suggest you to append your comment.
>>> 
>>> - Mail original -
 De: casa...@email.it
 À: "dev" 
 Envoyé: Jeudi 21 Avril 2022 07:51:11
 Objet: Re: The AOO forums have not worked for several days.
 
 The situation continues not to improve, normal navigation is
 impossible.
 Anyone know who to call to make things right?
 
 - Messaggio originale -
 Da: "Larry Gusaas" 
 A: "dev" 
 Inviato: Mercoledì, 20 aprile 2022 20:18:29
 Oggetto: Re: The AOO forums have not worked for several days.
 
 On 2022-04-20 12:05 p.m., Larry Gusaas wrote:
> On 2022-04-20 10:50 a.m., Rory O'Farrell wrote:
>> On Wed, 20 Apr 2022 18:28:22 +0200 (CEST)
>> casa...@email.it  wrote:
>> 
>>> The AOO forums have not worked for several days.
>>> Is there anyone here who can do something?
>>> As administrator of the Italian forum I can't log in, the
>>> connection times out.
>>> I have no different access to the forum.
>>> 
>>> charlie
>> They are very intermittent, sometimes working, more frequently
>> timing out.  Out of
>> curiosity, please try a traceroute to forum.openoffice.org, which
>> might show up if there was
>> a connection problem on the route(s) to that site.
>> 
>> It was reported that the server had been restarted, so the problem
>> may be elsewhere.
>> 
> Not opening here
> 
 Finally opened after very long wait. Pages extremely slow loading or
 get message the server
 isn't responding.
 
 --
 _
 
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 Website: http://larry-gusaas.com
 
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Re: The AOO forums have not worked for several days.

2022-04-22 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi -

Credit for the forums coming back also goes to several members of the ASF 
Infrastructure team who helped in shielding the server.

I am pushing forward with the new box today. Thanks to everyone who offered to 
help we’ll be answering those emails …

All The Best,
Dave

> On Apr 22, 2022, at 4:47 AM, casa...@email.it wrote:
> 
> I confirm that now everything is back to work.
> Thanks to those who intervened.
> 
> - Messaggio originale -
> Da: casa...@email.it
> A: "dev" 
> Cc: "oooforum" 
> Inviato: Giovedì, 21 aprile 2022 9:22:19
> Oggetto: Re: The AOO forums have not worked for several days.
> 
> We do not know who is the person who has the command keys of all the forums.
> 
> - Messaggio originale -
> Da: casa...@email.it
> A: "dev" , "oooforum" 
> Inviato: Giovedì, 21 aprile 2022 9:20:03
> Oggetto: Re: The AOO forums have not worked for several days.
> 
> It seems that no one who has read your report is able to do anything.
> 
> - Messaggio originale -
> Da: "Bidouille" 
> A: "dev" 
> Inviato: Giovedì, 21 aprile 2022 8:34:37
> Oggetto: Re: The AOO forums have not worked for several days.
> 
> This morning (since France), no access to ooo-forum3-vm.apache.org 
> [54.84.201.130]
> An issue report has been opened here:
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-23156
> No news so I suggest you to append your comment.
> 
> - Mail original -
>> De: casa...@email.it
>> À: "dev" 
>> Envoyé: Jeudi 21 Avril 2022 07:51:11
>> Objet: Re: The AOO forums have not worked for several days.
>> 
>> The situation continues not to improve, normal navigation is
>> impossible.
>> Anyone know who to call to make things right?
>> 
>> - Messaggio originale -
>> Da: "Larry Gusaas" 
>> A: "dev" 
>> Inviato: Mercoledì, 20 aprile 2022 20:18:29
>> Oggetto: Re: The AOO forums have not worked for several days.
>> 
>> On 2022-04-20 12:05 p.m., Larry Gusaas wrote:
>>> On 2022-04-20 10:50 a.m., Rory O'Farrell wrote:
 On Wed, 20 Apr 2022 18:28:22 +0200 (CEST)
 casa...@email.it  wrote:
 
> The AOO forums have not worked for several days.
> Is there anyone here who can do something?
> As administrator of the Italian forum I can't log in, the
> connection times out.
> I have no different access to the forum.
> 
> charlie
 They are very intermittent, sometimes working, more frequently
 timing out.  Out of
 curiosity, please try a traceroute to forum.openoffice.org, which
 might show up if there was
 a connection problem on the route(s) to that site.
 
 It was reported that the server had been restarted, so the problem
 may be elsewhere.
 
>>> Not opening here
>>> 
>> Finally opened after very long wait. Pages extremely slow loading or
>> get message the server
>> isn't responding.
>> 
>> --
>> _
>> 
>> Larry I. Gusaas
>> Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada
>> Website: http://larry-gusaas.com
>> 
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>> theirs." - Edgard Varese
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Re: [IMPORTANT] Scheduling Maintenance for our Forum

2022-05-01 Thread Dave Fisher
Apologies for the late communication.

The forums are being updated from phpBB 3.0.9 to 3.3.7. 

Differences so far:
1. The subsilver2 theme is no longer available.
2. Analytics are removed due to new ASF privacy policies. We can add back 
analytics that are compliant in the next weeks.
3. Search Display code is changed and I could not see how add 
({NEW_POST_COUNT}) into styles/prosilver/template/index_body.html
4. /style.php is no longer included.
5. /app.php is new.
6. /includes/ucp/ucp_register.php will need to be tested on the French forum.
7. /feed.php is reorganized and it was not clear how to add the customized 
rel=“alternate” to one of the links.

This doesn’t seem bad.
Language packs were found and AOO customizations are added.

I expect to finish late tonight - when ready there will be a test url.

Once the forums are put into maintenance the following will happen:

1. Make sure all the files and images that have been uploaded are copied.
2. Dumps of the mysql databases will be copied over.
3. Forum databases will be updated
4. Forum admins will have a chance to test.
5. Once live we’ll triage any issues.

Bidouille has access to the VM … any other forum admins who are already 
OpenOffice committers may request access.

A warning - this same VM hosts the wiki and the mysql databases.

I’ll be offline for a few hours before returning to this work and to answer any 
questions.

ATB,
Dave

> On May 1, 2022, at 10:43 AM, Peter Kovacs  wrote:
> 
> 
> Am 01.05.22 um 15:59 schrieb Rory O'Farrell:
>> On Sun, 1 May 2022 15:53:47 +0200
>> Peter Kovacs  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello all,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> please note, that we schedule a maintenance for the Forum in order to
>>> move database and content to a new machine. This maintenance tasks
>>> includes also a phpBB updates to a recent version, with all the Forum
>>> Modification ported.
>>> 
>>> The downtime will take place from Monday, 2nd March 2022 1800 UTC until
>>> the end of the same day.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> All the best
>>> 
>>> Peter
>>> 
>> Possible typo?  March in place of May?
> Thanks Rory, It is May. My mistake.
>> 
>> Rory
>> 
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Re: [IMPORTANT] Scheduling Maintenance for our Forum

2022-05-02 Thread Dave Fisher
The en and fr forums are available to test: 

https://openoffice-vm1-lw-us.apache.org/

Please test these forums.

Known work to do:
- Restore the Apache Open Office logo in the header
- Return the Apache and Get OpenOffice information in the footer
- Avatars have moved in 3.3.7 need to determine how to move them.

The automatic mySQL migration from 3.0.9 seems to work but takes quite some 
time.

ATB,
Dave

> On May 1, 2022, at 11:16 AM, Dave Fisher  wrote:
> 
> Apologies for the late communication.
> 
> The forums are being updated from phpBB 3.0.9 to 3.3.7. 
> 
> Differences so far:
> 1. The subsilver2 theme is no longer available.
> 2. Analytics are removed due to new ASF privacy policies. We can add back 
> analytics that are compliant in the next weeks.
> 3. Search Display code is changed and I could not see how add 
> ({NEW_POST_COUNT}) into styles/prosilver/template/index_body.html
> 4. /style.php is no longer included.
> 5. /app.php is new.
> 6. /includes/ucp/ucp_register.php will need to be tested on the French forum.
> 7. /feed.php is reorganized and it was not clear how to add the customized 
> rel=“alternate” to one of the links.
> 
> This doesn’t seem bad.
> Language packs were found and AOO customizations are added.
> 
> I expect to finish late tonight - when ready there will be a test url.
> 
> Once the forums are put into maintenance the following will happen:
> 
> 1. Make sure all the files and images that have been uploaded are copied.
> 2. Dumps of the mysql databases will be copied over.
> 3. Forum databases will be updated
> 4. Forum admins will have a chance to test.
> 5. Once live we’ll triage any issues.
> 
> Bidouille has access to the VM … any other forum admins who are already 
> OpenOffice committers may request access.
> 
> A warning - this same VM hosts the wiki and the mysql databases.
> 
> I’ll be offline for a few hours before returning to this work and to answer 
> any questions.
> 
> ATB,
> Dave
> 
>> On May 1, 2022, at 10:43 AM, Peter Kovacs  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Am 01.05.22 um 15:59 schrieb Rory O'Farrell:
>>> On Sun, 1 May 2022 15:53:47 +0200
>>> Peter Kovacs  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hello all,
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> please note, that we schedule a maintenance for the Forum in order to
>>>> move database and content to a new machine. This maintenance tasks
>>>> includes also a phpBB updates to a recent version, with all the Forum
>>>> Modification ported.
>>>> 
>>>> The downtime will take place from Monday, 2nd March 2022 1800 UTC until
>>>> the end of the same day.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> All the best
>>>> 
>>>> Peter
>>>> 
>>> Possible typo?  March in place of May?
>> Thanks Rory, It is May. My mistake.
>>> 
>>> Rory
>>> 
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Re: [IMPORTANT] Scheduling Maintenance for our Forum

2022-05-02 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi -

ACP should now be available on EN and FR. Basically some ${lang} hacks from the 
old config.php no longer function.

I wonder about the attachments is it possible that ACP Orphaned Attachments 
screen can fix these up? 
Could someone try more a few …

Thanks,
Dave

> On May 2, 2022, at 8:32 AM, Bidouille  wrote:
> 
>> There is an issue with accessing the admin control panel, error is
>> 
>> Access denied for user 'forumaoouser'@'127.0.0.1' to database
>> 'forumaoo_' [1044]
> +1
> 
> Some problems detected:
> Logo (left top) has been removed
> All avatars can be accessed
> Some pictures seems to be corrupted in many threads
> 
> This is a database issue with a bad update.
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Re: WebDAV module ported from serf to curl; curl using openssl and zlib (was: Re: Openssl, serf and curl)

2022-05-02 Thread Dave Fisher



> On May 2, 2022, at 1:28 PM, Arrigo Marchiori  wrote:
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> On Sat, Apr 30, 2022 at 10:31:33PM +0200, Arrigo Marchiori wrote:
> 
>> Replying to myself again...
>> 
>> On Sat, Apr 30, 2022 at 10:03:54PM +0200, Arrigo Marchiori wrote:
>> 
>>> Replying to myself...
>>> 
>>> On Sat, Apr 30, 2022 at 09:41:04PM +0200, Arrigo Marchiori wrote:
>>> 
 Hello Damjan,
 
 On Fri, Apr 29, 2022 at 04:53:59AM +0200, Damjan Jovanovic wrote:
>>> [...]
> When I run your Linux binaries, I also get that error.
> 
> One problem is libcurl -> openssl.
> 
> "ldd ./libcurl.so" shows:
>libssl.so.10 => not found
>libcrypto.so.10 => not found
>>> [...]
> 
> It connects and seems to begin the SSL negotiations, and then probably
> crashes while doing the verify_callback we set with SSL_CTX_set_verify().
> 
> I suspect the Curl and/or OpenSSL headers used to build AOO, and their
> libraries available at runtime, are incompatible.
> 
> What happens if you run AOO on the same machine it was built on?
>>> [...]
 As I wrote above, according to your suspects, it may be worthwile to
 bundle curl and openssl binaries. I will try to follow this path. It
 should be a matter of parameters to the configure script.
>>> 
>>> Curl and openssl are already bundled.
>>> 
>>> But Curl is not using the openssl from AOO, but rather from the
>>> system. In other words, it does not honor the environment variable
>>> SYSTEM_OPENSSL=NO set by the AOO build system.
>>> 
>>> Curl's configure script looks for the SSL headers and libraries either
>>> from pkgconfig or at a path provided with parameter --with-ssl
>>> 
>>> We do not support pkgconfig inside the solver, so we have to rely on
>>> the path.
>>> 
>>> But Curl's configure script expects to find a directory structure such as:
>>> - $PREFIX/include/openssl
>>> - $PREFIX/lib[64]
>>> whereas our $OUTDIR has openssl installed into different paths:
>>> - $OUTDIR/inc/external/openssl
>>> - $OUTDIR/lib
>>> 
>>> I believe this means we have to patch Curl's configure script.
>> 
>> Not only. We also have to actually bundle libssl.so and libcrypto.so
>> because they are not!
>> 
>> This means we have to patch:
>> 
>> - main/openssl/prj/d.lst to have them included into the solver;
>> 
>> - scp2/source/ooo/file_library_ooo.scp to have their Unix names
>> included.
>> 
>> This is a separate bug and will be worth its own pull request.
> 
> Here it is:
> https://github.com/apache/openoffice/pull/147
> 
> I suggest:
> 
> 1- we merge the above PR (I will on Friday, if no one vetoes and no
> issues are raised);
> 
> 2- we patch curl's configure script to use the bundled OpenSSL
> library, when requested.
> 
> Comments are always welcome.

Just so that you aren’t the only one here.

It will be important to write good release notes about these changes.

Users will need to understand clearly that updates to cURL and OpenSSL for CVEs 
won’t happen immediately unless they build with 2 on their own.

Regards,
Dave


> 
> Best regards,
> -- 
> Arrigo
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Re: [IMPORTANT] Scheduling Maintenance for our Forum

2022-05-02 Thread Dave Fisher
There is a lot hiding behind that error message.

The FR forum has been remigrated. I’m finishing a long running fixup:

root@openoffice-vm1-lw-us:/x1/var_lib_phpBB/com337# php ./bin/phpbbcli.php 
--safe-mode fixup:update-hashes
 33772/39298 [>---]  85% 

That might help the attachment and avatar issues.

It looks like I need to reorganize the layout to make each forum much more like 
the phpBB standard.

That also might help the attachment and avatar issues

I’ll be doing the reorg in the morning.

Anyone care to comment on the order of migration?

ATB,
Dave

> On May 2, 2022, at 6:16 PM, David Robley  wrote:
> 
> Orphaned attachments is not available from the General panel in ACP - the 
> error message is:
> 
> General Error
> Module not accessible
> 
> BACKTRACE
> 
> FILE: (not given by php)
> LINE: (not given by php)
> CALL: msg_handler()
> 
> FILE: [ROOT]/includes/functions_module.php
> LINE: 565
> CALL: trigger_error()
> 
> FILE: [ROOT]/adm/index.php
> LINE: 81
> CALL: p_master->load_active()
> 
> Also there is a warning on the General tab of the ACP:
> The selected search backend does not have a search index.
> Please create the index for “MySQL Fulltext” in the search index 
> <https://openoffice-vm1-lw-us.apache.org/en/forum/adm/index.php?i=acp_search&mode=index&sid=f040e8c6e1d64f0a91acae0964c9197d>
>  section.
> 
> Following the link returns the same error as above:
> 
> 
> General Error
> 
> Module not accessible
> 
> BACKTRACE
> 
> *FILE:* (not given by php)
> *LINE:* (not given by php)
> *CALL:* msg_handler()
> 
> *FILE:* [ROOT]/includes/functions_module.php
> *LINE:* 565
> *CALL:* trigger_error()
> 
> *FILE:* [ROOT]/adm/index.php
> *LINE:* 81
> *CALL:* p_master->load_active()
> 
> On 5/3/22 03:25, Dave Fisher wrote:
>> Hi -
>> 
>> ACP should now be available on EN and FR. Basically some ${lang} hacks from 
>> the old config.php no longer function.
>> 
>> I wonder about the attachments is it possible that ACP Orphaned Attachments 
>> screen can fix these up?
>> Could someone try more a few …
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Dave
>> 
>>> On May 2, 2022, at 8:32 AM, Bidouille  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> There is an issue with accessing the admin control panel, error is
>>>> 
>>>> Access denied for user 'forumaoouser'@'127.0.0.1' to database
>>>> 'forumaoo_' [1044]
>>> +1
>>> 
>>> Some problems detected:
>>> Logo (left top) has been removed
>>> All avatars can be accessed
>>> Some pictures seems to be corrupted in many threads
>>> 
>>> This is a database issue with a bad update.
>>> 
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> Cheers
> -- 
> David Robley
> 
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Re: [IMPORTANT] Scheduling Maintenance for our Forum

2022-05-03 Thread Dave Fisher
WOOT!

Reorganizing each forum to be a separate installation of phpBB worked!

In the migrated EN and FR forums the avatars and attachments are back!

Here’s Drew: (if the mailing list takes it)


Please test while I prepare for the migration!

Regards,
Dave

> On May 2, 2022, at 9:46 PM, Dave Fisher  wrote:
> 
> There is a lot hiding behind that error message.
> 
> The FR forum has been remigrated. I’m finishing a long running fixup:
> 
> root@openoffice-vm1-lw-us:/x1/var_lib_phpBB/com337# php ./bin/phpbbcli.php 
> --safe-mode fixup:update-hashes
>  33772/39298 [>---]  85% 
> 
> That might help the attachment and avatar issues.
> 
> It looks like I need to reorganize the layout to make each forum much more 
> like the phpBB standard.
> 
> That also might help the attachment and avatar issues
> 
> I’ll be doing the reorg in the morning.
> 
> Anyone care to comment on the order of migration?
> 
> ATB,
> Dave
> 
>> On May 2, 2022, at 6:16 PM, David Robley > <mailto:da...@robley.net.au>> wrote:
>> 
>> Orphaned attachments is not available from the General panel in ACP - the 
>> error message is:
>> 
>> General Error
>> Module not accessible
>> 
>> BACKTRACE
>> 
>> FILE: (not given by php)
>> LINE: (not given by php)
>> CALL: msg_handler()
>> 
>> FILE: [ROOT]/includes/functions_module.php
>> LINE: 565
>> CALL: trigger_error()
>> 
>> FILE: [ROOT]/adm/index.php
>> LINE: 81
>> CALL: p_master->load_active()
>> 
>> Also there is a warning on the General tab of the ACP:
>> The selected search backend does not have a search index.
>> Please create the index for “MySQL Fulltext” in the search index 
>> <https://openoffice-vm1-lw-us.apache.org/en/forum/adm/index.php?i=acp_search&mode=index&sid=f040e8c6e1d64f0a91acae0964c9197d
>>  
>> <https://openoffice-vm1-lw-us.apache.org/en/forum/adm/index.php?i=acp_search&mode=index&sid=f040e8c6e1d64f0a91acae0964c9197d>>
>>  section.
>> 
>> Following the link returns the same error as above:
>> 
>> 
>> General Error
>> 
>> Module not accessible
>> 
>> BACKTRACE
>> 
>> *FILE:* (not given by php)
>> *LINE:* (not given by php)
>> *CALL:* msg_handler()
>> 
>> *FILE:* [ROOT]/includes/functions_module.php
>> *LINE:* 565
>> *CALL:* trigger_error()
>> 
>> *FILE:* [ROOT]/adm/index.php
>> *LINE:* 81
>> *CALL:* p_master->load_active()
>> 
>> On 5/3/22 03:25, Dave Fisher wrote:
>>> Hi -
>>> 
>>> ACP should now be available on EN and FR. Basically some ${lang} hacks from 
>>> the old config.php no longer function.
>>> 
>>> I wonder about the attachments is it possible that ACP Orphaned Attachments 
>>> screen can fix these up?
>>> Could someone try more a few …
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Dave
>>> 
>>>> On May 2, 2022, at 8:32 AM, Bidouille>>> <mailto:ooofo...@free.fr>>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> There is an issue with accessing the admin control panel, error is
>>>>> 
>>>>> Access denied for user 'forumaoouser'@'127.0.0.1' to database
>>>>> 'forumaoo_' [1044]
>>>> +1
>>>> 
>>>> Some problems detected:
>>>> Logo (left top) has been removed
>>>> All avatars can be accessed
>>>> Some pictures seems to be corrupted in many threads
>>>> 
>>>> This is a database issue with a bad update.
>>>> 
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>> 
>> Almost went crazy. Would have been a real short trip.
>> 
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Re: [IMPORTANT] Scheduling Maintenance for our Forum

2022-05-03 Thread Dave Fisher
Inline



Sent from my iPhone

> On May 3, 2022, at 11:22 AM, Bidouille  wrote:
> 
> On French forum only, unable to connect (using admin or user account)
> I don't know if passwords has been correctly hashed in database

I did rehash passwords. I won’t do that in the final migration.

> Unable to register a new account too because form is not complete:
> Translated strings are not found
> Signature field is missing
> See screenshot: https://ibb.co/7Rf0MqL

Are you missing the extra sig field for FR only?

What translations are missed? The explain?



> 
> 
> - Mail original -
>> De: "Dave Fisher" 
>> À: dev@openoffice.apache.org
>> Envoyé: Mardi 3 Mai 2022 16:26:00
>> Objet: Re: [IMPORTANT] Scheduling Maintenance for our Forum
>> 
>> WOOT!
>> 
>> 
>> Reorganizing each forum to be a separate installation of phpBB
>> worked!
>> 
>> 
>> In the migrated EN and FR forums the avatars and attachments are
>> back!
>> 
>> 
>> Here’s Drew: (if the mailing list takes it)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Please test while I prepare for the migration!
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Dave
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On May 2, 2022, at 9:46 PM, Dave Fisher < w...@apache.org > wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> There is a lot hiding behind that error message.
>> 
>> 
>> The FR forum has been remigrated. I’m finishing a long running fixup:
>> 
>> 
>> root@openoffice-vm1-lw-us:/x1/var_lib_phpBB/com337# php
>> ./bin/phpbbcli.php --safe-mode fixup:update-hashes
>> 33772/39298 [>---] 85%
>> 
>> 
>> That might help the attachment and avatar issues.
>> 
>> 
>> It looks like I need to reorganize the layout to make each forum much
>> more like the phpBB standard.
>> 
>> 
>> That also might help the attachment and avatar issues
>> 
>> 
>> I’ll be doing the reorg in the morning.
>> 
>> 
>> Anyone care to comment on the order of migration?
>> 
>> 
>> ATB,
>> Dave
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On May 2, 2022, at 6:16 PM, David Robley < da...@robley.net.au >
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Orphaned attachments is not available from the General panel in ACP -
>> the error message is:
>> 
>> General Error
>> Module not accessible
>> 
>> BACKTRACE
>> 
>> FILE: (not given by php)
>> LINE: (not given by php)
>> CALL: msg_handler()
>> 
>> FILE: [ROOT]/includes/functions_module.php
>> LINE: 565
>> CALL: trigger_error()
>> 
>> FILE: [ROOT]/adm/index.php
>> LINE: 81
>> CALL: p_master->load_active()
>> 
>> Also there is a warning on the General tab of the ACP:
>> The selected search backend does not have a search index.
>> Please create the index for “MySQL Fulltext” in the search index <
>> https://openoffice-vm1-lw-us.apache.org/en/forum/adm/index.php?i=acp_search&mode=index&sid=f040e8c6e1d64f0a91acae0964c9197d
>>> section.
>> 
>> Following the link returns the same error as above:
>> 
>> 
>> General Error
>> 
>> Module not accessible
>> 
>> BACKTRACE
>> 
>> *FILE:* (not given by php)
>> *LINE:* (not given by php)
>> *CALL:* msg_handler()
>> 
>> *FILE:* [ROOT]/includes/functions_module.php
>> *LINE:* 565
>> *CALL:* trigger_error()
>> 
>> *FILE:* [ROOT]/adm/index.php
>> *LINE:* 81
>> *CALL:* p_master->load_active()
>> 
>> On 5/3/22 03:25, Dave Fisher wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi -
>> 
>> ACP should now be available on EN and FR. Basically some ${lang}
>> hacks from the old config.php no longer function.
>> 
>> I wonder about the attachments is it possible that ACP Orphaned
>> Attachments screen can fix these up?
>> Could someone try more a few …
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Dave
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On May 2, 2022, at 8:32 AM, Bidouille< ooofo...@free.fr > wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> There is an issue with accessing the admin control panel, error is
>> 
>> Access denied for user 'forumaoouser'@'127.0.0.1' to database
>> 'forumaoo_' [1044]
>> +1
>> 
>> Some problems detected:
>> Logo (left top) has been removed
>> All avatars can be accessed
>> Some pictures seems to be corrupted in many threads
>> 
>> This is a database issue with a bad update.
>> 
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>> 
>> Almost went crazy. Would have been a real short trip.
>> 
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Re: [IMPORTANT] Scheduling Maintenance for our Forum

2022-05-03 Thread Dave Fisher



> On May 3, 2022, at 12:51 PM, Dave Fisher  wrote:
> 
> Inline
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 3, 2022, at 11:22 AM, Bidouille  wrote:
>> 
>> On French forum only, unable to connect (using admin or user account)
>> I don't know if passwords has been correctly hashed in database
> 
> I did rehash passwords. I won’t do that in the final migration.
> 
>> Unable to register a new account too because form is not complete:
>> Translated strings are not found
>> Signature field is missing
>> See screenshot: https://ibb.co/7Rf0MqL
> 
> Are you missing the extra sig field for FR only?
> 
> What translations are missed? The explain?

I’m saw a similar situation with the EN forum.

https://ibb.co/TgDTLN1

I redid the Terry E mods on /includes/ucp/ucp_register.php and it looks good!

ATB,
Dave


> 
> 
> 
>> 
>> 
>> - Mail original -
>>> De: "Dave Fisher" 
>>> À: dev@openoffice.apache.org
>>> Envoyé: Mardi 3 Mai 2022 16:26:00
>>> Objet: Re: [IMPORTANT] Scheduling Maintenance for our Forum
>>> 
>>> WOOT!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Reorganizing each forum to be a separate installation of phpBB
>>> worked!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> In the migrated EN and FR forums the avatars and attachments are
>>> back!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Here’s Drew: (if the mailing list takes it)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Please test while I prepare for the migration!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Dave
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On May 2, 2022, at 9:46 PM, Dave Fisher < w...@apache.org > wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> There is a lot hiding behind that error message.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The FR forum has been remigrated. I’m finishing a long running fixup:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> root@openoffice-vm1-lw-us:/x1/var_lib_phpBB/com337# php
>>> ./bin/phpbbcli.php --safe-mode fixup:update-hashes
>>> 33772/39298 [>---] 85%
>>> 
>>> 
>>> That might help the attachment and avatar issues.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> It looks like I need to reorganize the layout to make each forum much
>>> more like the phpBB standard.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> That also might help the attachment and avatar issues
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I’ll be doing the reorg in the morning.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Anyone care to comment on the order of migration?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ATB,
>>> Dave
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On May 2, 2022, at 6:16 PM, David Robley < da...@robley.net.au >
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Orphaned attachments is not available from the General panel in ACP -
>>> the error message is:
>>> 
>>> General Error
>>> Module not accessible
>>> 
>>> BACKTRACE
>>> 
>>> FILE: (not given by php)
>>> LINE: (not given by php)
>>> CALL: msg_handler()
>>> 
>>> FILE: [ROOT]/includes/functions_module.php
>>> LINE: 565
>>> CALL: trigger_error()
>>> 
>>> FILE: [ROOT]/adm/index.php
>>> LINE: 81
>>> CALL: p_master->load_active()
>>> 
>>> Also there is a warning on the General tab of the ACP:
>>> The selected search backend does not have a search index.
>>> Please create the index for “MySQL Fulltext” in the search index <
>>> https://openoffice-vm1-lw-us.apache.org/en/forum/adm/index.php?i=acp_search&mode=index&sid=f040e8c6e1d64f0a91acae0964c9197d
>>>> section.
>>> 
>>> Following the link returns the same error as above:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> General Error
>>> 
>>> Module not accessible
>>> 
>>> BACKTRACE
>>> 
>>> *FILE:* (not given by php)
>>> *LINE:* (not given by php)
>>> *CALL:* msg_handler()
>>> 
>>> *FILE:* [ROOT]/includes/functions_module.php
>>> *LINE:* 565
>>> *CALL:* trigger_error()
>>> 
>>> *FILE:* [ROOT]/adm/index.php
>>> *LINE:* 81
>>> *CALL:* p_master->load_active()
>>> 
>>> On 5/3/22 03:25, Dave Fisher wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi -
>>> 
>>> ACP should now be available on EN and FR. Basically some ${lang}
>>> hacks from the old config.php no longer function.
>>> 
>>&g

Re: [IMPORTANT] Scheduling Maintenance for our Forum

2022-05-04 Thread Dave Fisher



> On May 3, 2022, at 11:34 PM, Bidouille  wrote:
> 
> Hello Dave,
> 
>>> Are you missing the extra sig field for FR only?
>>> What translations are missed? The explain?
>> I’m saw a similar situation with the EN forum.
> 
>> I redid the Terry E mods on /includes/ucp/ucp_register.php and it
>> looks good!
> Indeed, the form seems to be restored. Signature is back.
> Bravo!
> 
> Remains connection issue.

That will be fixed with changeover migration.

> 
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Re: [IMPORTANT] Scheduling Maintenance for our Forum

2022-05-04 Thread Dave Fisher



> On May 4, 2022, at 1:14 AM, David Robley  wrote:
> 
> Registration works OK; I registered a new user, got the activation email and 
> activated the account. Then posted a first message and (as moderator) 
> approved it, but I _did not_ get the email advising of approval although the 
> post was cleared. I did check junk as that was where the activation email 
> ended up :-).
> 
> There is an apparent inconsistency on the mod control panel; some recent 
> events that are displayed under the Moderator Logs tab do not appear under 
> the Main tab.
> 
> While I'm on the topic, is there any chance the change to the search page I 
> mentioned at 
> https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?t=105949#p515320 might be 
> implemented?

Done! Try it on the EN forum and I’ll propagate to the others.

> 
> And, pushing my (our?) luck even more, the extensions Banhammer and 
> stopforumspam mentioned in 
> https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=104&t=96141#p513871

We’re going to need to take full control of the forum sysadmin role once the 
migration is completed.

> 
> On 5/2/22 17:28, Dave Fisher wrote:
>> The en and fr forums are available to test:
>> 
>> https://openoffice-vm1-lw-us.apache.org/
>> 
>> Please test these forums.
>> 
>> Known work to do:
>> - Restore the Apache Open Office logo in the header
>> - Return the Apache and Get OpenOffice information in the footer
>> - Avatars have moved in 3.3.7 need to determine how to move them.
>> 
>> The automatic mySQL migration from 3.0.9 seems to work but takes quite some 
>> time.
>> 
>> ATB,
>> Dave
>> 
>>> On May 1, 2022, at 11:16 AM, Dave Fisher  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Apologies for the late communication.
>>> 
>>> The forums are being updated from phpBB 3.0.9 to 3.3.7.
>>> 
>>> Differences so far:
>>> 1. The subsilver2 theme is no longer available.
>>> 2. Analytics are removed due to new ASF privacy policies. We can add back 
>>> analytics that are compliant in the next weeks.
>>> 3. Search Display code is changed and I could not see how add 
>>> ({NEW_POST_COUNT}) into styles/prosilver/template/index_body.html
>>> 4. /style.php is no longer included.
>>> 5. /app.php is new.
>>> 6. /includes/ucp/ucp_register.php will need to be tested on the French 
>>> forum.
>>> 7. /feed.php is reorganized and it was not clear how to add the customized 
>>> rel=“alternate” to one of the links.
>>> 
>>> This doesn’t seem bad.
>>> Language packs were found and AOO customizations are added.
>>> 
>>> I expect to finish late tonight - when ready there will be a test url.
>>> 
>>> Once the forums are put into maintenance the following will happen:
>>> 
>>> 1. Make sure all the files and images that have been uploaded are copied.
>>> 2. Dumps of the mysql databases will be copied over.
>>> 3. Forum databases will be updated
>>> 4. Forum admins will have a chance to test.
>>> 5. Once live we’ll triage any issues.
>>> 
>>> Bidouille has access to the VM … any other forum admins who are already 
>>> OpenOffice committers may request access.
>>> 
>>> A warning - this same VM hosts the wiki and the mysql databases.
>>> 
>>> I’ll be offline for a few hours before returning to this work and to answer 
>>> any questions.
>>> 
>>> ATB,
>>> Dave
>>> 
>>>> On May 1, 2022, at 10:43 AM, Peter Kovacs  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Am 01.05.22 um 15:59 schrieb Rory O'Farrell:
>>>>> On Sun, 1 May 2022 15:53:47 +0200
>>>>> Peter Kovacs  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> please note, that we schedule a maintenance for the Forum in order to
>>>>>> move database and content to a new machine. This maintenance tasks
>>>>>> includes also a phpBB updates to a recent version, with all the Forum
>>>>>> Modification ported.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The downtime will take place from Monday, 2nd March 2022 1800 UTC until
>>>>>> the end of the same day.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> All the best
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Peter
>>>>>> 
>>>>> Possible typo?  March in place of May?
>>>> Thanks Rory, It is May. My mistake.
>>>>> Rory
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> 
> Cheers
> -- 
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> 
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> 
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Re: [IMPORTANT] Scheduling Maintenance for our Forum

2022-05-04 Thread Dave Fisher
Https://forum.openoffice.org is now offline with a simple page to checkbook 
later.

> On May 4, 2022, at 7:04 AM, Dave Fisher  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On May 4, 2022, at 1:14 AM, David Robley  wrote:
>> 
>> Registration works OK; I registered a new user, got the activation email and 
>> activated the account. Then posted a first message and (as moderator) 
>> approved it, but I _did not_ get the email advising of approval although the 
>> post was cleared. I did check junk as that was where the activation email 
>> ended up :-).
>> 
>> There is an apparent inconsistency on the mod control panel; some recent 
>> events that are displayed under the Moderator Logs tab do not appear under 
>> the Main tab.
>> 
>> While I'm on the topic, is there any chance the change to the search page I 
>> mentioned at 
>> https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?t=105949#p515320 might 
>> be implemented?
> 
> Done! Try it on the EN forum and I’ll propagate to the others.
> 
>> 
>> And, pushing my (our?) luck even more, the extensions Banhammer and 
>> stopforumspam mentioned in 
>> https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=104&t=96141#p513871
> 
> We’re going to need to take full control of the forum sysadmin role once the 
> migration is completed.
> 
>> 
>> On 5/2/22 17:28, Dave Fisher wrote:
>>> The en and fr forums are available to test:
>>> 
>>> https://openoffice-vm1-lw-us.apache.org/
>>> 
>>> Please test these forums.
>>> 
>>> Known work to do:
>>> - Restore the Apache Open Office logo in the header
>>> - Return the Apache and Get OpenOffice information in the footer
>>> - Avatars have moved in 3.3.7 need to determine how to move them.
>>> 
>>> The automatic mySQL migration from 3.0.9 seems to work but takes quite some 
>>> time.
>>> 
>>> ATB,
>>> Dave
>>> 
>>>> On May 1, 2022, at 11:16 AM, Dave Fisher  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Apologies for the late communication.
>>>> 
>>>> The forums are being updated from phpBB 3.0.9 to 3.3.7.
>>>> 
>>>> Differences so far:
>>>> 1. The subsilver2 theme is no longer available.
>>>> 2. Analytics are removed due to new ASF privacy policies. We can add back 
>>>> analytics that are compliant in the next weeks.
>>>> 3. Search Display code is changed and I could not see how add 
>>>> ({NEW_POST_COUNT}) into styles/prosilver/template/index_body.html
>>>> 4. /style.php is no longer included.
>>>> 5. /app.php is new.
>>>> 6. /includes/ucp/ucp_register.php will need to be tested on the French 
>>>> forum.
>>>> 7. /feed.php is reorganized and it was not clear how to add the customized 
>>>> rel=“alternate” to one of the links.
>>>> 
>>>> This doesn’t seem bad.
>>>> Language packs were found and AOO customizations are added.
>>>> 
>>>> I expect to finish late tonight - when ready there will be a test url.
>>>> 
>>>> Once the forums are put into maintenance the following will happen:
>>>> 
>>>> 1. Make sure all the files and images that have been uploaded are copied.
>>>> 2. Dumps of the mysql databases will be copied over.
>>>> 3. Forum databases will be updated
>>>> 4. Forum admins will have a chance to test.
>>>> 5. Once live we’ll triage any issues.
>>>> 
>>>> Bidouille has access to the VM … any other forum admins who are already 
>>>> OpenOffice committers may request access.
>>>> 
>>>> A warning - this same VM hosts the wiki and the mysql databases.
>>>> 
>>>> I’ll be offline for a few hours before returning to this work and to 
>>>> answer any questions.
>>>> 
>>>> ATB,
>>>> Dave
>>>> 
>>>>> On May 1, 2022, at 10:43 AM, Peter Kovacs  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Am 01.05.22 um 15:59 schrieb Rory O'Farrell:
>>>>>> On Sun, 1 May 2022 15:53:47 +0200
>>>>>> Peter Kovacs  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> please note, that we schedule a maintenance for the Forum in order to
>>>>>>> move database and content to a new machine. This maintenance tasks
>>>>>>> includes also a phpBB update

Re: [IMPORTANT] Scheduling Maintenance for our Forum

2022-05-04 Thread Dave Fisher
Maintenance on the Forums is completed!

The Forums are now at phpBB 3.3.7 which was released March 17, 2023. The prior 
version was 3.0.9 released July 10, 2011.

Very, very happy. Future updates should be much easier. I will follow up with 
the Forum sysadmins on these issues:

1. The Italian Forum has a weird display issues. I think that a post will need 
to be regenerated.
2. We need to find forum administrators to replace imacat for each forum.
3. I will need to document the process, customizations and migration steps.

But I’ll need a few days away.

ATB,
Dave

> On May 4, 2022, at 7:38 AM, Dave Fisher  wrote:
> 
> Https://forum.openoffice.org is now offline with a simple page to checkbook 
> later..
> 
>> On May 4, 2022, at 7:04 AM, Dave Fisher  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 4, 2022, at 1:14 AM, David Robley  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Registration works OK; I registered a new user, got the activation email 
>>> and activated the account. Then posted a first message and (as moderator) 
>>> approved it, but I _did not_ get the email advising of approval although 
>>> the post was cleared. I did check junk as that was where the activation 
>>> email ended up :-).
>>> 
>>> There is an apparent inconsistency on the mod control panel; some recent 
>>> events that are displayed under the Moderator Logs tab do not appear under 
>>> the Main tab.
>>> 
>>> While I'm on the topic, is there any chance the change to the search page I 
>>> mentioned at 
>>> https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?t=105949#p515320 might 
>>> be implemented?
>> 
>> Done! Try it on the EN forum and I’ll propagate to the others.
>> 
>>> 
>>> And, pushing my (our?) luck even more, the extensions Banhammer and 
>>> stopforumspam mentioned in 
>>> https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=104&t=96141#p513871
>> 
>> We’re going to need to take full control of the forum sysadmin role once the 
>> migration is completed.
>> 
>>> 
>>> On 5/2/22 17:28, Dave Fisher wrote:
>>>> The en and fr forums are available to test:
>>>> 
>>>> https://openoffice-vm1-lw-us.apache.org/
>>>> 
>>>> Please test these forums.
>>>> 
>>>> Known work to do:
>>>> - Restore the Apache Open Office logo in the header
>>>> - Return the Apache and Get OpenOffice information in the footer
>>>> - Avatars have moved in 3.3.7 need to determine how to move them.
>>>> 
>>>> The automatic mySQL migration from 3.0.9 seems to work but takes quite 
>>>> some time.
>>>> 
>>>> ATB,
>>>> Dave
>>>> 
>>>>> On May 1, 2022, at 11:16 AM, Dave Fisher  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Apologies for the late communication.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The forums are being updated from phpBB 3.0.9 to 3.3.7.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Differences so far:
>>>>> 1. The subsilver2 theme is no longer available.
>>>>> 2. Analytics are removed due to new ASF privacy policies. We can add back 
>>>>> analytics that are compliant in the next weeks.
>>>>> 3. Search Display code is changed and I could not see how add 
>>>>> ({NEW_POST_COUNT}) into styles/prosilver/template/index_body.html
>>>>> 4. /style.php is no longer included.
>>>>> 5. /app.php is new.
>>>>> 6. /includes/ucp/ucp_register.php will need to be tested on the French 
>>>>> forum.
>>>>> 7. /feed.php is reorganized and it was not clear how to add the 
>>>>> customized rel=“alternate” to one of the links.
>>>>> 
>>>>> This doesn’t seem bad.
>>>>> Language packs were found and AOO customizations are added.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I expect to finish late tonight - when ready there will be a test url.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Once the forums are put into maintenance the following will happen:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 1. Make sure all the files and images that have been uploaded are copied.
>>>>> 2. Dumps of the mysql databases will be copied over.
>>>>> 3. Forum databases will be updated
>>>>> 4. Forum admins will have a chance to test.
>>>>> 5. Once live we’ll triage any issues.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Bidouille has access to the VM … any other forum admins who are already 
>>>>> OpenOffice committers may request access.
>>&g

Re: Contact a Forum Board Administrator

2022-05-05 Thread Dave Fisher
Check your spam folder. If it’s not there then please send the email address so 
that we can look at the server logs.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 5, 2022, at 6:24 AM, casa...@email.it wrote:
> 
> I tried to write an email from AOO Italian forum to Contact a Board 
> Administrator. But the email does not arrive at the address registered. 
> Where does it arrive?
> Thanks.
> 
> charlie
> (Italian AOO forumm Admin)
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Re: WebDAV module ported from serf to curl; curl using openssl and zlib (was: Re: Openssl, serf and curl)

2022-05-06 Thread Dave Fisher



> On May 6, 2022, at 12:56 PM, Arrigo Marchiori  wrote:
> 
> Hello Dave,
> 
> On Mon, May 02, 2022 at 05:53:19PM -0700, Dave Fisher wrote:
> 
>> Just so that you aren’t the only one here.
> 
> I am sure I am not alone... but thank you anyway ;-)
> 
>> It will be important to write good release notes about these changes.
>> 
>> Users will need to understand clearly that updates to cURL and
>> OpenSSL for CVEs won’t happen immediately unless they build with 2
>> on their own.
> 
> I am not sure I understand this. We are just updating/changing bundled
> libraries... Can you please explain better what you mean?

Some users might hear about a CVE on cURL and/or OpenSSL and update their 
systems thinking that they have also fixed OpenOffice when due to our now 
bundling of these they would need to wait for an OpenOffice release.

ATB,
Dave

> 
> Best regards,
> -- 
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[GRAPHICS] Help with SVG versions of AOO website logo and Forum Header

2022-05-07 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi -

It would be great if we had a transparent background and svg versions of our 
website logos:

We have an svg version of the orb here: 
https://github.com/apache/openoffice-org/blob/main/assets/images/AOO_logos/svg/orb.svg
I can’t find an svg of the full website logo. Does anyone know of one?
An svg should convert any fonts to shapes

(1) The Forum header - https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/logo_forum.png

The same graphic on every forum right now. Size is 450px x 77px. Extra credit 
if someone can create versions for: ES, FR, HU, IT, JA, NL, and PL. VI is 
read-only and ZH is non-functional and not currently available.

(2) The website logo - 
https://github.com/apache/openoffice-org/blob/main/assets/images/AOO_logos/AOO4_website_logo.png

The size is 268px x 100px

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Re: Forums and FAQ

2022-05-09 Thread Dave Fisher
I did something special. I’ll need to refresh my memory and get back to you on 
the correct changes.

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> 
> Hello,
> 
> Small problem with FAQ on all forums except EN
> https://forum.openoffice.org/fr/forum/download/file.php?id=145454
> 
> I don't know how these strings has been added.
> 
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Re: Forums and FAQ

2022-05-09 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi -

We need versions of the following strings to add for each language:

./language/en/help/faq.php
'HELP_FAQ_AOO_SPECIFIC' => 'OpenOffice.org 
Community Forum Specific Issues',
'HELP_FAQ_AOO_WHERE_CAN_I_FIND' => 'Where can I find 
FAQs relating specifically to OpenOffice.org products?',
'HELP_FAQ_AOO_WHERE'=> 'We don\'t maintain 
an FAQ per se, but you is you start with our Survival Guide, this will explain how 
to go about using the forum.  You will also find specific tutorials in the Tutorials forum.  You can also use the 
https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/";>OpenOffice wiki as a knowledge 
source.',
'HELP_FAQ_AOO_HOW_TO_ASK'   => ‘
How do I ask a question?',
'HELP_FAQ_AOO_HOW'  => 'Please read 
the Survival Guide before you 
post. These guidelines and rules help the community to make the most 
of this forum. The remainder of this FAQ coverts general issues to do 
with the using phpBB3.',

Here’s where the strings are used.

./phpbb/help/controller/faq.php
'HELP_FAQ_AOO_SPECIFIC',
'HELP_FAQ_AOO_WHERE_CAN_I_FIND' => 
'HELP_FAQ_AOO_WHERE',
'HELP_FAQ_AOO_HOW_TO_ASK' => 'HELP_FAQ_AOO_HOW',

Regards,
Dave


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> Hello,
> 
> Small problem with FAQ on all forums except EN
> https://forum.openoffice.org/fr/forum/download/file.php?id=145454
> 
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Re: [GRAPHICS] Help with SVG versions of AOO website logo and Forum Header

2022-05-09 Thread Dave Fisher



> On May 7, 2022, at 3:30 PM, Pedro Lino  wrote:
> 
> Hi again
> 
> I have created an SVG for the Forums/Fora (don't know where I should upload 
> it to)

You can upload it to imgur.com - I’ll download, test, and store in the forums.

I think we should have a logo/graphics place in OpenOffice.apache.org which 
comes from https://github.com/apache./openoffice-project/

> The word Forum is editable (in Ubuntu Condensed 26pt)
> I have created Forum (EN, FR, IT and PL), Foren (DE) and Foro (ES)

BTW - Someone else runs the DE forum and it’s outside of Apache.
> 
> https://imgur.com/a/FDqydFu

Very cool!

Thanks,
Dave

> 
> If any of the other language users sends the word / characters I can update 
> it or simply send the SVG
> 
> Best,
> Pedro
> 
>> On 05/07/2022 7:38 PM Dave Fisher  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi -
>> 
>> It would be great if we had a transparent background and svg versions of our 
>> website logos:
>> 
>> We have an svg version of the orb here: 
>> https://github.com/apache/openoffice-org/blob/main/assets/images/AOO_logos/svg/orb.svg
>> I can’t find an svg of the full website logo. Does anyone know of one?
>> An svg should convert any fonts to shapes
>> 
>> (1) The Forum header - https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/logo_forum.png
>> 
>> The same graphic on every forum right now. Size is 450px x 77px. Extra 
>> credit if someone can create versions for: ES, FR, HU, IT, JA, NL, and PL. 
>> VI is read-only and ZH is non-functional and not currently available.
>> 
>> (2) The website logo - 
>> https://github.com/apache/openoffice-org/blob/main/assets/images/AOO_logos/AOO4_website_logo.png
>> 
>> The size is 268px x 100px
>> 
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Re: [GRAPHICS] Help with SVG versions of AOO website logo and Forum Header

2022-05-09 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi Pedro,

You can see the new logo (you may have to clear cache) at 
https://forum.openoffice.org/es/forum/ along with other forum sites.

Regards,
Dave

> On May 7, 2022, at 3:30 PM, Pedro Lino  wrote:
> 
> Hi again
> 
> I have created an SVG for the Forums/Fora (don't know where I should upload 
> it to)
> The word Forum is editable (in Ubuntu Condensed 26pt)
> I have created Forum (EN, FR, IT and PL), Foren (DE) and Foro (ES)
> 
> https://imgur.com/a/FDqydFu
> 
> If any of the other language users sends the word / characters I can update 
> it or simply send the SVG
> 
> Best,
> Pedro
> 
>> On 05/07/2022 7:38 PM Dave Fisher  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi -
>> 
>> It would be great if we had a transparent background and svg versions of our 
>> website logos:
>> 
>> We have an svg version of the orb here: 
>> https://github.com/apache/openoffice-org/blob/main/assets/images/AOO_logos/svg/orb.svg
>> I can’t find an svg of the full website logo. Does anyone know of one?
>> An svg should convert any fonts to shapes
>> 
>> (1) The Forum header - https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/logo_forum.png
>> 
>> The same graphic on every forum right now. Size is 450px x 77px. Extra 
>> credit if someone can create versions for: ES, FR, HU, IT, JA, NL, and PL. 
>> VI is read-only and ZH is non-functional and not currently available.
>> 
>> (2) The website logo - 
>> https://github.com/apache/openoffice-org/blob/main/assets/images/AOO_logos/AOO4_website_logo.png
>> 
>> The size is 268px x 100px
>> 
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>> Dave
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Re: Reporting a problem with the OpenOffice Wiki and Forums

2022-05-15 Thread Dave Fisher
In the recent updates of the wiki and forums they were put onto the same 
virtual machine.

I think the current problem is due to the wiki section in the httpd.conf not 
recognizing that the wiki.services.openoffice.org domain coming in to the 
server is a wiki request. The forum then gets it.

I’ve submitted a PR to ASF Infra puppet to attempt to fix this issue. It being 
Sunday it may take some time before it is merged and after that up to an hour 
before puppet applies the change.

> On May 15, 2022, at 6:30 AM, Dick Groskamp  wrote:
> 
> Just found another one on the wiki:
> 
> http://www.openoffice.org/qa/ooQAReloaded/DatabaseTeamsite/ooQA-TeamDatabaseLinks.html
> points to several links, of which most work correctly.
> 
> However, the link to Database Wiki, which is:
> wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Category:Database 
> redirects to
> https://forum.openoffice.org/wiki/Category:Database
> 
> but should redirect to https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Category:Database.
> 
> Therefore I think that Matthias is right. There is something going wrong on 
> the wiki with the redirects from "wiki.services".
> 
> Redirections go inadvertently to "forum.openoffice.org"
> 
> They should redirect to "wiki.openoffice.org/" but they redirect now to 
> "forum.openoffice.org" which throws a 404. Changing "forum" on the 404 to 
> "wiki" will give you the right page.
> 
> I have no clue as where to search for the error, but I assume its somewhere 
> in the configuration of the forum
> 
> On 2022/05/15 08:15:45 Peter Kovacs wrote:
>> Binjour!
>> 
>> This list is the right place to ask.
>> 
>> Both Links point to missing Articles on the Forum. Since we updated the 
>> Forum software, could it be that links has been changed?
>> 
>> Maybe searching on the en Forum would help and renew the link.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Am 15.05.22 um 09:12 schrieb Troumad libertysurf:
>>> [FR]
>>> 
>>> Bonjour
>>> 
>>> Je ne sais où parler de ce problème. Si on me dit tant-pis, je ne les 
>>> remonterais plus...
>>> Sur la page 
>>> https://www.openoffice.org/api/docs/common/ref/com/sun/star/lang/EventObject.html
>>>  
>>> il y a deux liens qui ne répondent plus :
>>> 
>>> OfficeDev - Document Events
>>> Database - Events and Other Notifications
>>> 
>>> 
>>> [EN by https://www.deepl.com/]
>>> 
>>> Hello
>>> 
>>> I don't know where to talk about this problem. If someone tells me no 
>>> more, I won't bring them up again...
>>> On the page 
>>> https://www.openoffice.org/api/docs/common/ref/com/sun/star/lang/EventObject.html
>>>  
>>> there are two links that don't work anymore:
>>> 
>>> OfficeDev - Document Events
>>> Database - Events and Other Notifications
>>> 
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Re: Reporting a problem with the OpenOffice Wiki and Forums

2022-05-15 Thread Dave Fisher
This is working. You might need to clear web cache. For some reason it 
redirects to wikinew.openoffice.org, but it works.


> On May 15, 2022, at 7:15 AM, Dave Fisher  wrote:
> 
> In the recent updates of the wiki and forums they were put onto the same 
> virtual machine.
> 
> I think the current problem is due to the wiki section in the httpd.conf not 
> recognizing that the wiki.services.openoffice.org domain coming in to the 
> server is a wiki request. The forum then gets it.
> 
> I’ve submitted a PR to ASF Infra puppet to attempt to fix this issue. It 
> being Sunday it may take some time before it is merged and after that up to 
> an hour before puppet applies the change.
> 
>> On May 15, 2022, at 6:30 AM, Dick Groskamp  wrote:
>> 
>> Just found another one on the wiki:
>> 
>> http://www.openoffice.org/qa/ooQAReloaded/DatabaseTeamsite/ooQA-TeamDatabaseLinks.html
>> points to several links, of which most work correctly.
>> 
>> However, the link to Database Wiki, which is:
>> wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Category:Database 
>> redirects to
>> https://forum.openoffice.org/wiki/Category:Database
>> 
>> but should redirect to https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Category:Database.
>> 
>> Therefore I think that Matthias is right. There is something going wrong on 
>> the wiki with the redirects from "wiki.services".
>> 
>> Redirections go inadvertently to "forum.openoffice.org"
>> 
>> They should redirect to "wiki.openoffice.org/" but they redirect now to 
>> "forum.openoffice.org" which throws a 404. Changing "forum" on the 404 to 
>> "wiki" will give you the right page.
>> 
>> I have no clue as where to search for the error, but I assume its somewhere 
>> in the configuration of the forum
>> 
>> On 2022/05/15 08:15:45 Peter Kovacs wrote:
>>> Binjour!
>>> 
>>> This list is the right place to ask.
>>> 
>>> Both Links point to missing Articles on the Forum. Since we updated the 
>>> Forum software, could it be that links has been changed?
>>> 
>>> Maybe searching on the en Forum would help and renew the link.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Am 15.05.22 um 09:12 schrieb Troumad libertysurf:
>>>> [FR]
>>>> 
>>>> Bonjour
>>>> 
>>>> Je ne sais où parler de ce problème. Si on me dit tant-pis, je ne les 
>>>> remonterais plus...
>>>> Sur la page 
>>>> https://www.openoffice.org/api/docs/common/ref/com/sun/star/lang/EventObject.html
>>>>  
>>>> il y a deux liens qui ne répondent plus :
>>>> 
>>>>OfficeDev - Document Events
>>>>Database - Events and Other Notifications
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> [EN by https://www.deepl.com/]
>>>> 
>>>> Hello
>>>> 
>>>> I don't know where to talk about this problem. If someone tells me no 
>>>> more, I won't bring them up again...
>>>> On the page 
>>>> https://www.openoffice.org/api/docs/common/ref/com/sun/star/lang/EventObject.html
>>>>  
>>>> there are two links that don't work anymore:
>>>> 
>>>>OfficeDev - Document Events
>>>>Database - Events and Other Notifications
>>>> 
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Re: Reporting a problem with the OpenOffice Wiki and Forums

2022-05-15 Thread Dave Fisher
I submitted a new PR for the wikinew redirection issue.

> On May 15, 2022, at 9:10 AM, Dave Fisher  wrote:
> 
> This is working. You might need to clear web cache. For some reason it 
> redirects to wikinew.openoffice.org, but it works.
> 
> 
>> On May 15, 2022, at 7:15 AM, Dave Fisher  wrote:
>> 
>> In the recent updates of the wiki and forums they were put onto the same 
>> virtual machine.
>> 
>> I think the current problem is due to the wiki section in the httpd.conf not 
>> recognizing that the wiki.services.openoffice.org domain coming in to the 
>> server is a wiki request. The forum then gets it.
>> 
>> I’ve submitted a PR to ASF Infra puppet to attempt to fix this issue. It 
>> being Sunday it may take some time before it is merged and after that up to 
>> an hour before puppet applies the change.
>> 
>>> On May 15, 2022, at 6:30 AM, Dick Groskamp  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Just found another one on the wiki:
>>> 
>>> http://www.openoffice.org/qa/ooQAReloaded/DatabaseTeamsite/ooQA-TeamDatabaseLinks.html
>>> points to several links, of which most work correctly.
>>> 
>>> However, the link to Database Wiki, which is:
>>> wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Category:Database 
>>> redirects to
>>> https://forum.openoffice.org/wiki/Category:Database
>>> 
>>> but should redirect to https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Category:Database.
>>> 
>>> Therefore I think that Matthias is right. There is something going wrong on 
>>> the wiki with the redirects from "wiki.services.>> wanna_go>...".
>>> 
>>> Redirections go inadvertently to "forum.openoffice.org"
>>> 
>>> They should redirect to "wiki.openoffice.org/" but they redirect now to 
>>> "forum.openoffice.org" which throws a 404. Changing "forum" on the 404 to 
>>> "wiki" will give you the right page.
>>> 
>>> I have no clue as where to search for the error, but I assume its somewhere 
>>> in the configuration of the forum
>>> 
>>> On 2022/05/15 08:15:45 Peter Kovacs wrote:
>>>> Binjour!
>>>> 
>>>> This list is the right place to ask.
>>>> 
>>>> Both Links point to missing Articles on the Forum. Since we updated the 
>>>> Forum software, could it be that links has been changed?
>>>> 
>>>> Maybe searching on the en Forum would help and renew the link.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Am 15.05.22 um 09:12 schrieb Troumad libertysurf:
>>>>> [FR]
>>>>> 
>>>>> Bonjour
>>>>> 
>>>>> Je ne sais où parler de ce problème. Si on me dit tant-pis, je ne les 
>>>>> remonterais plus...
>>>>> Sur la page 
>>>>> https://www.openoffice.org/api/docs/common/ref/com/sun/star/lang/EventObject.html
>>>>>  
>>>>> il y a deux liens qui ne répondent plus :
>>>>> 
>>>>>   OfficeDev - Document Events
>>>>>   Database - Events and Other Notifications
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> [EN by https://www.deepl.com/]
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hello
>>>>> 
>>>>> I don't know where to talk about this problem. If someone tells me no 
>>>>> more, I won't bring them up again...
>>>>> On the page 
>>>>> https://www.openoffice.org/api/docs/common/ref/com/sun/star/lang/EventObject.html
>>>>>  
>>>>> there are two links that don't work anymore:
>>>>> 
>>>>>   OfficeDev - Document Events
>>>>>   Database - Events and Other Notifications
>>>>> 
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Re: Forums and FAQ

2022-05-15 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi Bidouille,

I’ve updated the FR forum and confirmed the change.

ATB,
Dave


> On May 10, 2022, at 2:34 AM, Bidouille  wrote:
> 
> 
> Sorry, some error in previous post
> 'HELP_FAQ_AOO_SPECIFIC' => ' Forum OpenOffice et problèmes spécifiques',
> 'HELP_FAQ_AOO_WHERE_CAN_I_FIND' => 'Où puis-je trouver une FAQ dédiée aux 
> modules de la suite OpenOffice ?',
> 'HELP_FAQ_AOO_WHERE' => 'La plupart des réponses se trouvent en faisant une 
> recherche par ce formulaire mais 
> vous pouvez trouver d\'autres informations détaillées sur cette  href="https://fr.openoffice.org/Documentation>page.',
> 'HELP_FAQ_AOO_HOW_TO_ASK' => 'Comment poser une question ?',
> 'HELP_FAQ_AOO_HOW' => 'Dans un premier temps, merci de lire notre  href="/fr/forum/ftopic35311.html">mode d\'emploi.',
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Re: Forums and FAQ

2022-05-15 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi Dick,

I’ve updated the NL forum and confirmed the change.

ATB,
Dave

> On May 10, 2022, at 2:42 AM, Dick Groskamp  wrote:
> 
> Dave,
> for Dutch (NL) you might want to use:
> 
> 
> 'HELP_FAQ_AOO_SPECIFIC' => 'OpenOffice gemeenschap Forum Specifieke 
> problemen',
> 
> 'HELP_FAQ_AOO_WHERE_CAN_I_FIND'   => 'Waar vind ik FAQ's die specifiek 
> een relatie hebben met producten van OpenOffice?',
> 
> 'HELP_FAQ_AOO_WHERE'  => 'We onderhouden niet per se een FAQ, maar het beste 
> is als u begint met Lees dit 
> eerst, wat u zal uitleggen hoe het forum te gebruiken.  U kunt ook 
> specifieke handleidingen vinden in het forum  href="/nl/forum/viewforum.php?f=4">Tutorials.  U kunt ook de  href="https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/NL/Main_Page";>OpenOffice wiki 
> gebruiken als een kennisbron.',
> 
> 'HELP_FAQ_AOO_HOW_TO_ASK' => ‘
> Hoe stel ik een vraag?',
> 
> 'HELP_FAQ_AOO_HOW'=> 'Lees eerst het gedeelte  href="/nl/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=2">Lees dit eerst voordat u een vraag 
> stelt. Deze richtlijnen en regels helpen de gemeenschap om het 
> meeste uit dit forum te halen. De rest van deze FAQ behandelt 
> algemene problemen die te maken hebben met het gebruiken van phpBB3.',
> 
> On 2022/05/10 00:25:55 Dave Fisher wrote:
>> Hi -
>> 
>> We need versions of the following strings to add for each language:
>> 
>> ./language/en/help/faq.php
>>  'HELP_FAQ_AOO_SPECIFIC' => 'OpenOffice.org 
>> Community Forum Specific Issues',
>>  'HELP_FAQ_AOO_WHERE_CAN_I_FIND' => 'Where can I find 
>> FAQs relating specifically to OpenOffice.org products?',
>>  'HELP_FAQ_AOO_WHERE'=> 'We don\'t maintain 
>> an FAQ per se, but you is you start with our > href="/en/forum/viewtopic.php?t=166">Survival Guide, this will explain 
>> how to go about using the forum.  You will also find specific tutorials in 
>> the Tutorials forum.  You can 
>> also use the https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/";>OpenOffice wiki 
>> as a knowledge source.',
>>  'HELP_FAQ_AOO_HOW_TO_ASK'   => ‘
>> How do I ask a question?',
>>  'HELP_FAQ_AOO_HOW'  => 'Please read 
>> the Survival Guide before you 
>> post. These guidelines and rules help the community to make the 
>> most of this forum. The remainder of this FAQ coverts general 
>> issues to do with the using phpBB3.',
>> 
>> Here’s where the strings are used.
>> 
>> ./phpbb/help/controller/faq.php
>>  'HELP_FAQ_AOO_SPECIFIC',
>>  'HELP_FAQ_AOO_WHERE_CAN_I_FIND' => 
>> 'HELP_FAQ_AOO_WHERE',
>>  'HELP_FAQ_AOO_HOW_TO_ASK' => 'HELP_FAQ_AOO_HOW',
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Dave
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 9, 2022, at 10:33 AM, Bidouille  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> Small problem with FAQ on all forums except EN
>>> https://forum.openoffice.org/fr/forum/download/file.php?id=145454
>>> 
>>> I don't know how these strings has been added.
>>> 
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Re: Reporting a problem with the OpenOffice Wiki and Forums

2022-05-15 Thread Dave Fisher



> On May 15, 2022, at 10:00 AM, Pedro Lino  
> wrote:
> 
> After emptying the cache, the links reported by the OP do work, but on the 
> page below the Database now works but not the Mailing Lists
> 
> Is this a separate issue?

Yes. Most of the old OOo project specific mailing lists were never moved to the 
ASF.

A new target for these links is required.

> 
> Regards,
> Pedro
> 
>> On 05/15/2022 2:30 PM Dick Groskamp  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Just found another one on the wiki:
>> 
>> http://www.openoffice.org/qa/ooQAReloaded/DatabaseTeamsite/ooQA-TeamDatabaseLinks.html
>> points to several links, of which most work correctly.
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Re: [GRAPHICS] Help with SVG versions of AOO website logo and Forum Header

2022-05-15 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi Pedro,

The forum now uses responsive css and when narrow the header is suppressed.

Regards,
Dave

> On May 10, 2022, at 1:46 AM, Pedro Lino  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Dave
> 
> I will upload or send to you by email the SVG(s) later today.
> 
> Can you use the SVG directly on the page? Wouldn't that be preferable instead 
> of PNGs?
> 
> Separate issue:
> I opened the Spanish forum on Firefox running on Linux and it looks good. 
> However opening the same page on Android is missing some elements. I used 
> Firefox and Vivaldi and in both the top bar is missing as well as the 
> "Enlaces rápidos" text
> I just switched to the EN page and the same problems occur on my Android 
> 7.1.2 mobile
> 
> Best,
> Pedro
> 
>> On 05/10/2022 2:03 AM Dave Fisher  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Pedro,
>> 
>> You can see the new logo (you may have to clear cache) at 
>> https://forum.openoffice.org/es/forum/ along with other forum sites.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Dave
>> 
>>> On May 7, 2022, at 3:30 PM, Pedro Lino  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi again
>>> 
>>> I have created an SVG for the Forums/Fora (don't know where I should upload 
>>> it to)
>>> The word Forum is editable (in Ubuntu Condensed 26pt)
>>> I have created Forum (EN, FR, IT and PL), Foren (DE) and Foro (ES)
>>> 
>>> https://imgur.com/a/FDqydFu
>>> 
>>> If any of the other language users sends the word / characters I can update 
>>> it or simply send the SVG
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> Pedro
>>> 
>>>> On 05/07/2022 7:38 PM Dave Fisher  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Hi -
>>>> 
>>>> It would be great if we had a transparent background and svg versions of 
>>>> our website logos:
>>>> 
>>>> We have an svg version of the orb here: 
>>>> https://github.com/apache/openoffice-org/blob/main/assets/images/AOO_logos/svg/orb.svg
>>>> I can’t find an svg of the full website logo. Does anyone know of one?
>>>> An svg should convert any fonts to shapes
>>>> 
>>>> (1) The Forum header - https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/logo_forum.png
>>>> 
>>>> The same graphic on every forum right now. Size is 450px x 77px. Extra 
>>>> credit if someone can create versions for: ES, FR, HU, IT, JA, NL, and PL. 
>>>> VI is read-only and ZH is non-functional and not currently available.
>>>> 
>>>> (2) The website logo - 
>>>> https://github.com/apache/openoffice-org/blob/main/assets/images/AOO_logos/AOO4_website_logo.png
>>>> 
>>>> The size is 268px x 100px
>>>> 
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>>>> Dave
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Re: Forums and FAQ

2022-05-16 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi Marcus,

We don’t have the German Forum on forum.openoffice.org - we link to here: 
https://www.openoffice.org/de/foren.html and that links to here: 
https://www.openoffice-forum.de

Best,
Dave

> On May 16, 2022, at 10:37 AM, Marcus  wrote:
> 
> Am 10.05.22 um 02:25 schrieb Dave Fisher:
>> We need versions of the following strings to add for each language:
>> ./language/en/help/faq.php
>>  'HELP_FAQ_AOO_SPECIFIC' => 'OpenOffice.org 
>> Community Forum Specific Issues',
>>  'HELP_FAQ_AOO_WHERE_CAN_I_FIND' => 'Where can I find 
>> FAQs relating specifically to OpenOffice.org products?',
>>  'HELP_FAQ_AOO_WHERE'=> 'We don\'t maintain 
>> an FAQ per se, but you is you start with our > href="/en/forum/viewtopic.php?t=166">Survival Guide, this will explain 
>> how to go about using the forum.  You will also find specific tutorials in 
>> the Tutorials forum.  You can 
>> also use the https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/";>OpenOffice wiki 
>> as a knowledge source.',
>>  'HELP_FAQ_AOO_HOW_TO_ASK'   => ‘
>> How do I ask a question?',
>>  'HELP_FAQ_AOO_HOW'  => 'Please read 
>> the Survival Guide before you 
>> post. These guidelines and rules help the community to make the 
>> most of this forum. The remainder of this FAQ coverts general 
>> issues to do with the using phpBB3.',
>> Here’s where the strings are used.
>> ./phpbb/help/controller/faq.php
>>  'HELP_FAQ_AOO_SPECIFIC',
>>  'HELP_FAQ_AOO_WHERE_CAN_I_FIND' => 
>> 'HELP_FAQ_AOO_WHERE',
>>  'HELP_FAQ_AOO_HOW_TO_ASK' => 'HELP_FAQ_AOO_HOW',
> 
> can someone show me where the German strings would show up in the forum?
> For a (still needed ?) translation I need a bit context.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Marcus
> 
> 
> 
>>> On May 9, 2022, at 10:33 AM, Bidouille  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> Small problem with FAQ on all forums except EN
>>> https://forum.openoffice.org/fr/forum/download/file.php?id=145454
>>> 
>>> I don't know how these strings has been added.
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Re: Connection not secure on openoffice.org

2022-05-21 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi -

It looks like the redirection from http to https is failing from Firefox. I see 
the trouble if I just type in OpenOffice.org, but I don’t if I type in 
https://www.openoffice.org

All The Best,
Dave

> On May 21, 2022, at 11:50 AM, Pedro Lino  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi all
> 
> Firefox reports "Connection not secure"
> Reasons:
> This website does not supply ownership information.
> and
> Connection not encrypted
> 
> Is this a new issue or was it me who had never noticed before?
> 
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Re: Warning macro with OXT

2022-05-22 Thread Dave Fisher
There have been security fixes related to macros since 4.1.7. Please take a 
look at the security reports. It’s likely this warning is a result. There is a 
white list and possibly this type needs to be added.

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> On May 22, 2022, at 11:11 AM, Bidouille  wrote:
> 
> This problem does not occurs on 4.1.11
> So regression?
> 
> - Mail original -
>> De: "Bidouille" 
>> À: "dev" 
>> Envoyé: Dimanche 22 Mai 2022 18:00:35
>> Objet: Warning macro with OXT
>> 
>> Hello
>> 
>> AOO 4.1.12 with Windows 7
>> Before you must have to install MRI OXT
>> When you run Tools/Add-ons/MRI menu
>> Security macro warning appears
>> Do you have same problem?
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Re: Spam on the AOO forum

2022-05-27 Thread Dave Fisher



> On May 26, 2022, at 10:54 AM, Bidouille  wrote:
> 
>> Thanks, I had seen. But the choice is limited and then I can't take
>> action for existing passwords.
> 
> You could send a mass e-mail to all users (ACP > SYSTEM > General Tasks > 
> Mass e-mail) 
> If Dave is OK, it is possible to add this extension:
> https://www.phpbb.com/customise/db/extension/selective_mass_emails

Since each forum is now a separate installation of phpBB 3.3.7 it much less 
dangerous to try something normal out.

You should try to install it from the admin UI to see if it works. If not then 
I can have a look.

We should track this through a forum topic in the expected place.

ATB,
Dave


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Re: Forums: BBcode for [rel] links broken

2022-05-31 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi Hagar,

I’ve asked Infra to make some changes to how the user.services.openoffice.org 
domain is handled.

Currently it is an alias (CNAME) for forum.openoffice.org. We are changing it 
into a redirect from another server.

Once that is done we will see if this just fixes itself or if a restart and 
cache clearance is required.

> On May 30, 2022, at 1:01 PM, Hagar Delest  wrote:
> 
> Hi (Dave),
> 
> There is a problem at least in the EN forum with links made with the [rel] 
> BBcode tag.
> The base url seems to have reverted to 
> "https://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/"; instead of 
> "https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/";.
> The consequence is that there is no redirection but an error message from the 
> browser (tested with Firefox on Xubuntu 22.04 only), stating that there may 
> be a security risk following that link (translation from my French error 
> message).
> It used to worked after the migration (it needed a tweak however).
> 
> I checked in the admin panel of the phpBB interface but I've not found any 
> string in the interface. Seems to be something in a configuration file on the 
> server.
> 
> Note: I always took the pain to write my links with that BBcode to make it 
> more lean but this issue quite defeats the point.
> 
> Thanks.
> Hagar
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Re: Size limits on mwiki for uploaded files are too small

2022-06-06 Thread Dave Fisher
See https://m.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Configuring_file_uploads

Please let us know the error message.

I’ve cc’d sysadmin@openoffice I can take a look in the next day or so.

Regards,
Dave


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> wrote:
> 
> The documentation team is starting to publish the 4.1 getting started guide 
> and have run into a problem. The 2MB upload limit is far to small for the ODT 
> and the PDF file for the complete Guide.
> 
> The ODT file is 7.1 MB, and the Writer one will most likely be bigger.The 
> smallest I have been able to get the converted PDF is 31MB.
> 
> I know that we have some ODT files already on the mwike that are 11MB. What 
> would be the best way to get the limit raised so that the ODT can be uploaded?
> 
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Re: [DISCUSS] 4.1.13 release user profile warning

2022-07-14 Thread Dave Fisher



> On Jul 14, 2022, at 6:26 PM, Carl Marcum  wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> As it seems the AOO 4.1.13 RC1 vote may pass (hopefully soon ), I'm working 
> on the announce email and blog post.
> 
> Since the .openoffice user profile is not backward compatible with previous 
> 4.1 versions for stored passwords, should we place a warning for users to 
> back up up their user profile  in the announce email, blog post, release 
> notes, etc. or not necessary?

We should! It’s always a good idea to backup your user profile when upgrading. 
Humans often forget. It’s alwsys good idea to remind people to backup.

Best,
Dave
> 
> Best regards,
> Carl
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Re: promoting stage to prod for openoffice.org

2022-07-18 Thread Dave Fisher
It’s a manual Jenkins job. Instructions are in Github: 
https://github.com/apache/openoffice-org#manual-publishing

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> 
> Hi all,
> 
> 
> How do i start the build for prod or is this triggered automaticly.
> 
> 
> thanks
> 
> All the best
> 
> Peter
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Re: [AOO4.1.13] Performance Issues in writer with OLE objects

2022-08-02 Thread Dave Fisher
I think you owe Dave an apology, but that’s just my opinion.

If he has truly moved on I expect him to be professional and resign from 
moderation.

All the best,
Dave

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> On Aug 2, 2022, at 2:20 AM, Matthias Seidel  
> wrote:
> 
> I am not sure what happened here...
> 
> But his statement is clear, he now wants to be an "Anti-AOO promoter".
> 
> According to Whimsy he is moderator of several OO mailing lists. We
> should discuss if we need to remove his rights.
> 
> Regards,
> 
>Matthias
> 
>> Am 02.08.22 um 07:21 schrieb Peter Kovacs:
>> I am surprised on the end of this discussion. I did not expect a rage
>> quit.
>> 
>> There is no reason to take this personal. But well I guess it is to
>> late for that.
>> 
>>> Am 01.08.22 um 23:02 schrieb Dave:
>>> Hi Matthias,
>>> 
>>> Sorry, when I used the jovial expression "HOARDS" I didn't realise you
>>> had absolutely no sense of humour.
>>> 
>>> Since 2001 I have trained more users of OOO.org, AOO and LO than you
>>> have ever had contact with. So please do NOT! (expletives deleted)
>>> talk down to me about users. I know users, YOU DO NOT, you only guess
>>> who they might be.
>>> 
>>> YOU have just won your beloved project an Anti-AOO promoter. From here
>>> on the ASF and AOO can "Stick it where the sun don't shine".
>>> 
>>> Don't waste time with any replies, because all messages from this list
>>> will now be directed to null/dev.
>>> 
>>> BYE AOO!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 01/08/2022 21:28, Matthias Seidel wrote:
 Hi Dave,
 
 Am 01.08.22 um 22:17 schrieb Dave:
> Hi Matthias,
> 
> Sorry, but you loose that bet.
> 
> I temporarily put aside my loathing and detestation of GNOME and
> installed the standard Ubuntu 22.04 GNOME desktop edition. My only
> readily available box was an AMD FX-8350 Eight-Core Processor with
> 16Gb
> RAM. Not an exact match for Peter's hardware, but possibly close
> enough.
> 
> Pity these galactic hoards of GNOME users didn't step up and offer
> SOMETHING to assist Peter.
 I never spoke of *hoards* but I don't think we should ignore our user.
 
 And users normally don't step up, that needs a developer.
 
> @Peter:
> On this Ubuntu setup I removed LO and installed the released AOO
> 4.1.13
> edition. I opened your document and tried every trick I could think of
> to create a crash, but it remained rock solid.
> 
> Is there any difference between the RC and released code?
 No.
 
 Regards,
 
 Matthias
 
> Regards
> Dave
> 
> 
> On 01/08/2022 17:32, Matthias Seidel wrote:
>> Hi Dave,
>> 
>> Am 01.08.22 um 18:25 schrieb Dave:
>>> Hi Matthias,
>>> 
>>> Cinnamon, but I run PCLinuxOS KDE on my main production box.
>>> 
>>> I have never been a fan of GNOME.
>> I bet you would get a crash when using GNOME. ;-)
>> 
>> Someone should have a look into it, these crashes are annoying and
>> a lot
>> of people *are* using GNOME...
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Matthias
>> 
>>> Regards
>>> Dave
>>> 
>>> On 01/08/2022 16:59, Matthias Seidel wrote:
 Hi Dave,
 
 Which desktop environment are you using on Linux Mint?
 
 We do have some issues with Ubuntu (GNOME) and other
 distributions when
 GNOME is used as DE.
 
 Regards,
 
 Matthias
 
 Am 01.08.22 um 17:53 schrieb Dave:
> On 01/08/2022 06:57, Peter Kovacs wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I had this morning some wired effects, during my work with AOO.
>> 
>> As soon as I have added a OLE Calc part through Copy&Paste (From
>> LibreOffice :-D ), I get performance issues including crashes.
>> 
>> Has anyone heard of performance issues in this constraint?
>> 
>> Check out the document:
>> 
>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ZScKadukzWfZGeJWsTEaGf1ORrLrmwGl/view?usp=sharing
>> 
>> 
>> I am on Ubunutu 20.04. AOO is the 4.1.13 RC candidate.
>> 
>> My machine is an Intel I5, with 32GB, and SSD hard disk. (So
>> recent fast
>> machine)
>> 
>> All the best
>> 
>> Peter
> Hi Peter,
> 
> Not sure if this will be of any help to you.
> 
> My hardware spec is very similar to yours and I am  on Linux
> Mint 20.3
> 
> I don't get any (performance issues?) with your document in AOO
> 4.1.13
> (Released) and no crash when editing the OLE Calc object, with
> either
> AOO or LibreOffice on Linux.
> 
> However, I do get a 100% reproducible crash when attempting to
> edit the
> OLE Calc object in your document with LibreOffice 7.3.5.2 x64
> on

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